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>>669075667 Because modern feminists aren't into equality, or if they are they are incredibly deluded about what "equality" means.
The reason why I hate them, and am not just annoyed by them, is that they have a disproportionate voice in the media and they are given unlimited credibility to make libellous claims while decrying any opposition as "sexism".
Because present day feminists are stupid enough to believe a bunch of subjective bullshit. Bullshit, incidentally, which was started some time back in the eighties by a group of women who, under the direction of their BFs and husbands, started spreading all that shit about Patriarchy and mysogany and all that.
I really don't care to know anyone who actually believes whole-heartedly a blatant pack of lies and bullshit and believes it's truth.
>>669076010 Not yet anyways. But soon when a women with half your creditials gets a job you applied for because she cries sexism and you are jobless and homeless then you won't have much to stand on will you? Also if you happen to be mislabeled a tapist because some women you have sex with changes her mind about you I won't feel the least bit bad. People like you are why feminism exists in the first place. "They arn't hurting me" yeah. well the stove in your house isn't hurting you either but I bet if it caught on fire and burned your house down you'd have sure wished you'd bought a new one when you first knew it was starting to break. Fuck off
>>669077147 Feminists are high up in politics. Pushing laws and brainwashing young people in academia. Maybe you're not young but I'm in college and it's getting hard to find a girl that's not fragile and paranoid due to this cult.
>>669077606 The majority of people who describe themselves as feminists follow a lot of ideology and shun those who reject that ideology. That's what people mean when they say "feminists" "the majority of self-identified feminists"
>>669078951 Why can't you people ever have a civil conversation? Why does it always degrade into virgin shaming etc?
It's that kind of hypocritical bullshit that makes people hate feminists. They go on and on about slut shaming, but as soon as you talk back they start virgin shaming. Do you not see why this is a problem?
First of all, your text implies that feminism is about women, which it totally is, but the normal feminist rhetoric is that it is about equality for both sexes. The fact that it's obviously a biased movement hiding behind the idea of equality is one of the real reasons men hate feminism, and your post is a perfect proof of it.
Secondly, if it is about sexism against women, then that requires both views, you can't just experience life as a woman and claim that it's worse than that of a man, IF a woman by herself is able to make that comparison, then logically, a man would also be capable of doing so, therefore your argument fails since men CAN be experts on the subject.
Thirdly, your reply is sexist because it assumes that men can empathize with women. It judges people based on gender, it's false to assume that just because I am not a woman, that I therefore have not had experiences which are analogous.
And fourth, everything you said was just retarded, we don't care about being the leaders of anything, fuck the leaders of the MRA's are mostly women, why? Because unlike feminists, anti-feminists don't discriminate based on gender.
>>669075667 Feminists dont believe in equality. They want to be treated like a little kid but also independent. They want you to put them in a room made of of pillows with everything they want but you have to know they're there and acknowledge them and they have to make the same as a game programmer. Basically they want to be top freak in a freak show: most money most attention.
>>669081464 >First of all, your text implies that feminism is about women, which it totally is, but the normal feminist rhetoric is that it is about equality for both sexes.
feminism IS about women. Sometimes focusing on femininity and womens issues leads to greater conditions for everyone, but we don't devote half our time to men and half to women. that would be stupid.
Anyways, just because a movement is focused on women and femininity, when women and feminine people are shit on constantly, doesn't mean the movement is biased and awful and shit. I mean, NAACP only helps blacks and not whites, are they biased? LGBT organizations don't have a straight pride march, are they biased? why does feminism have to help everyone but no other minority group has to?
>Secondly, if it is about sexism against women, then that requires both views
This "secondly" is such a clusterfuck i can't even untangle it. Try using your paragraph as an argument against racism or homophobia. "if its homophobia it requires both views since you can't experience gay life and say its harder than straight life. IF a gay dude can make that comparison, then a straight dude can, then logically, a straight dude can be capable, therefore your argument fails because straight guys CAN be experts on homophobia" nope sorry buddy. you can read and describe it a bit, but until you live it you will never be an expert.
>thirdly You can't empathize. you've never walked the walk. you don't know. you can SYMPATHIZE, but that involves listening to us and taking us seriously, which you cannot. And yes, because you're not a woman you don't know what its like to be a woman. thats life
>fourth not going to bother with this gibberish
i dont want to get locked into a fight with you, so im leaving. you have a LOT of reading to do if you want to hold your own in debate.
>>669082602 >im leaving so I win cuz i wont see your rebuttal. Why do all feminists do this? I was debating a non feminist subject with a feminist "friend" and they told me my opinion was invalid and fucjed off. Leaving doesnt make you a winner it makes you the schoolyard faggot no one wants to play with. Feminism isnt about men, female rights activists are pushing for equal rights of men and women. Feminism is an organization operating to shut down free speech: men cant talk about abortion. Its sexist if you call a cunt out on her shit. Im being oppressed because pic related. Feminists are fucking jokes now. Claiming to be a feminist makes you a joke.
Not the guy he was arguing with, but that third bit just bugs the fuck out of me.
You can't empathize with someone else solely because they're the opposite gender? Do you even into empathy?
Empathy is defined as the ability to take what a person's point of view, and place yourself in their shoes. You don't have to ACTUALLY FUCKING EXPERIENCE WHAT THEY HAVE, you just have to infer from what they tell you.
It is exactly what you just defined as SYMPATHIZING, which is actually defined as 1: Feeling or expressing sympathy 2: Agree with sentiment or support, as in political sympathy
1+1= whatever the fuck i want it to be and no-one will tell me otherwise and anyway if its a women it should be more than 1 because women deserve more than then a man recieves for all the shit they put up with , dont you look at my 1 , dont you look , thats not for you to look at , my 1 will be what it wants to be without you`re rape stare
>>669076081 What the fuck did you just fucking say about us, you white, privileged cishet male? We’ll have you know we graduated top of our class in feminist gender studies, and we’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on the patriarchy, and we have over 300 confirmed privileges checked. We are trained in otherkin-ology, and we’re the top social justice warrior in the entire US social justice army. You are nothing to us but just another trans-misogynistic oppressor. We will dox you with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark our fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that oppressive, triggering shit to us over the Internet? Check your privilege, fucker. As we speak, we are contacting our secret network of allies across the world, and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot (Not that there's anything wrong with anyone who self-identifies as a maggot. Check your privilege. Again). The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your fee-fees. You’re fucking dead, kid (Not that there's anything wrong with anyone who self-identifies as a kid. Check your non-goat-identifying privilege). We can be anywhere, anytime, and we can blog about you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with two of our headmates. If only you could have known what retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. We will shit activism all over you and you will drown in it. Die cis scum.
>>669076491 Maybe if women would give a straight answer for once in their lives, and stop blaming alcohol as a reason for ha I got sex with someone just to say "oops" that wasn't supposed to happen you raped me when I blacked out. this is just an example. You women play men for fools and then ruin their lives because it's fun to you.
>>669075667 Because feminists complains stuff that has been resolved for decades.
Take the job market for example. Feminists complains about the top 1% males getting the best jobs like politics and big business management but they forget that the most common female jobs are middle management which are pretty comfortable career choices when compared with the predominantly male career choices like garbage collectors, factory workers and construction workers and miners which all come with relative low bay considering the high associated risks of injuries involved.
>>669082602 what piss me about feminist girls like you is that you think that women are the only ones that are having a bad time. in your fantasy world men seems to oppress women living a great happy life. let me tell you something: men dont live like that. men suffers too. we have different genders and therefore, we have different issues. the patriarchy, as you call the organization that we are living in the western world, tends to create stereotypes and ways to live for BOTH genders and cause anguish and sadness for BOTH genders. ancient feminism used to work for BOTH genders, they were involved even in protest for better quality in jobs, side by side with men. i guess that you need to analyze the world a bit better and stop reading books
>>669084779 the sources and quotes that you choose are choosen subjectively by the writer or speaker. there is no way to avoid subjectivity, not even with the scientific method. choosing that method is an act of subjectivity, deal with it
>>669075667 I dislike feminists because I already disliked them in the first place. I don't dislike feminists because they are feminists, they are feminists because I dislike them.
Feminists are women who can't get relationships or men to like them. So instead of fixing themselves, they try to get all men killed or put in jail.
Men, on the other hand, (usually) understand that if they can't get laid, it's their own fault. So they have assemblies and groups (such as Roosh V's Return of the Kings) to try and make themselves more attractive and better as men/humans.
Tldr: Men try to fix themselves, women try to fix men.
>>669082602 You can't beat me in a debate so you (probably pretend to) leave.
I've read more than you, I know more than you (about feminism, sexism, debates, and probably even women) and I am smarter than you, lets just quickly get that out the way first.
>why does feminism have to help everyone but no other minority group has to?
Because other groups are honest about their intentions. If feminists admitted to just caring about sexism and hardships facing WOMEN, then that would be ok. But they pretend to be the end all voice for equality for both sexes.
It saddens me that I have to explain why this is wrong, are you really that stupid?
An example, if you have two charity organisations. And both give all the money they receive to cancer. But one pretends to give money to both cancer AND aids. Then that charity is bullshit. Same with feminism.
The second part of your argument defeats itself. You try to defeat my argument of saying "you can't know who have it worse, men or women, unless you experience both sides" by trying to prove that you don't have to experience a side in order to understand it. Unfortunately that totally defeats the point that you are trying to make that men can't empathize with women.
It's one or the other, you can't have both. So choose. Btw, the reason it's difficult for you to "untangle" my writing, is because the concepts are probably too difficult for you, that's ok, feminists tend to not be very bright.
>You can't empathize Yes I can, you don't understand what empathy is.
>not going to bother with this gibberish
Probably because you know you have no comeback.
>so im leaving
Sure, you are leaving for my benefit, not because you can't win, keep telling yourself that mate.
it's the same thing where women will say they are more than just sexual objects yet their first go to insult is that "well you'd never get laid with that attitude". so they are clearly happy to leverage on that when it suits them. not only is it presumptuous for them a)speak on behalf of all women and b) assume you would touch them in the first place it makes them giant hypocrites.
the bigger threat nowadays is retroactive rape, a girl does something irresponsible that she regrets, and in the morning when buyers remorse kicks in and her feminist friends convince her that she was raped a mans life gets ruined.
>>669088478 >feminism is only interested in female interests As it directly relates to equality with men. Without men, feminism would never have existed. The problem is that feminism is much more concerned with how MEN behave than how women behave.
"feminism is egalitarianism based on the historical facts that almost all human societies ever have systematically subjugated women"
Oh, honestly, we was just like other most succesful primates, worshiping woman. Apparently, we have stoped doing that. Just around the time when we can find first archeological stuff about big wars. Mass graves, battlefields etc.
We hate them because of satan and illuminati. Ok, but seriously. How does it feel to be constantly rejected by females? Don't you understand that you are just making yourselves look weaker and more pathethic by hating the woman?
>>669089278 Historically, every human that wasn't nobility has been oppressed times over. The male proletarian was worth even less than cattle and took upon himself all the dangerous and degrading work so his women could safely raise their offspring.
Feminists completely ignore that and only focus on the 1% of the population that were bourgeois where women had slightly less influence than their male counterpart while still living the most luxurious lifestyle available at their time.
>>669091401 Exactly. All branches of government, judicial, legislative and executive are predominantly male. Law enforcement and military is almost exclusively male. Bitches have been crying for millenia over what men do and don't do but it doesn't matter at all what women say. I say just ignore them like our forefathers have done for hundreds of centuries. Women are like sneezing or taking a shit - there's no avoiding them, it's just a fact of life. There's no use listening to, or complaining about them either, just make sure you wipe.
>>669075667 I hate them because they're fucking try-hards. Like the kid you knew in school who was always trying to one-up everyones stories. Its fucking annoying.
I dont really care, and i'm happy to not give a shit. But feminists, faggots and transfucks are continuously forcing people to see their batshit wankfest of gay parades, unshaved armpits, demonstrations for petty shit and the jews giving them ample space in media.
Why cant all feminist just be a feminist and shut the fuck up about it?!
One would think "smashing the patriarchy" would go faster if they got off their asses and actually picked up a hammer instead of shitposting slogans and buzzwords on the internet all day erry day.
I don't hate feminists at all. Feminists are the freakiest in bed. The juxtaposition of her fighting for woman power vs eating her dirty ass off my cock because I want her to is downright ball draining.
I remember it was the same with this one guy in high school who built his entire identity around his sexuality. nobody actually cared that he was gay but you couldn't hold a conversation with him without him bringing it up. you'd be like "hey Dave nice hat" and he'd be all "you are just making fun of my hat because you don't like that I'm gay, HATE CRIIIIIIIIIIIIIME!!!!!!"
turns out we just hate him because he was a fucking asshole and not because he was fucking assholes.
>>669075667 "I got them Penis Psalms for your Vagina Monologues Love a feminist bitch, ooh, it get my dick hard So no apologies for all the misogyny I just want your company to come and watch some porn with me."
>>669094725 Protip: Feminazis don't look like that, >>669093910 ; let alone want that kind of attention. They just want to swing their dick around and dick slap as many men with it as they can. Like I said: >>669094269 Educate yourselves: http://www.singularity2050.com/2010/01/the-misandry-bubble.html
We're on the same side but you HAVE to understand that the primary victims of feminism are men. Women suffer feminism too. But women have never been the primary victims of anything except (maybe) sexual assault.
Because if a man tries to help a woman, it's because he thinks women are inferior and he's a misogynist. If he doesn't help a woman, it's because he wants to see women fail and he's still a misogynist. Because on one side of the street there's some girl crying because a guy told her she's pretty, and on the other side of the street, there's another girl crying because no one told her that she's pretty.
Because they constantly try to demean men in hopes of pushing their agenda. It's part of the reason Europe is so fucked right now. Men are being told they cant be men. They're turning men into women, and it's unacceptable.
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