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>>665571071 >be me 16 >brother has gf live with us >its cool i guess >gives me free weed all the time >they fuck like animals and i have the top bunk >heareverything.mp3 >jerkin it like a god damn heathen >cum buckets >no controlling this one >oh shit, cum flies over bed bunk >she got surprise facial form her boyfriends younger brother at 2am >mfw she broke up with him
>>665572238 How does it not have a shadow? Is it the only object in the known universe which is struck by light, reflects it back along a varying color spectrum, but also lets the light through with no dimming? If so, why doesn't dirt have the same properties when we pick it up? Why don't trees? Why don't we?
>>665571963 here's an answer: The moon being visible in the daytime from 20 miles up when it is supposed to be on the other side of the "globe." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt-q2ysGaZQ
>>665573133 The earth is flat and has a single pole. The north pole. If you get on the see and travel perpendicular to the north pole east then you will eventually return to that same spot from the west having gone in a big circle. Circumnavigation is possible on a globe but its also possible on a circle.
>>665573222 Not all evidence points to it being a globe. I have a bunch of evidence that points to it being a flat earth and only hearsay to believe it is a globe instead. Please bring up erosthene's measurements so I can properly school you.
Why is the Earth in the post's initial picture rounded? It is true that the depiction is square, but the "Earth" depicted is most definitely not flat in any way. If that image were accurate, why can't we use any kind of decent telescope and see the bottom of South America from Canada or the northern border of the US?
Could you please explain why it takes the same time to travel identical relative distances across the Earth's surfaces when the parts we would consider south of the equator are so much longer in your picture than the northern parts?
>>665574708 For clarification on the second question, why does 1 mile in Canada require no more time than traveling one mile in Antarctica. Your world map shows something that clearly does not agree with this.
>>665573248 The "Globe" is said to be tilted at 23.4 degrees. That's 23.4 degrees from the vertical. That's 66.6 degrees from the horizontal. SATAN CONFIRMED behind globe earth.
>>665573380 No, because of the sun which travels around the earth. I don't know if the other planets are round but it doesn't matter. Earth is flat. The roundness of the planets is as relevant to the shape of the earth as the roundness of a rock in your hand.
>>665573786 I don't understand the question. Why does what not have a shadow? The moon? Because it emits its own light. The earth?
>>665573811 What is there to explain? you can go real high in a balloon and then jump out. That isn't impossible on a globe or a flat earth.
>>665573963 It isn't known what the dome is made of but it keeps the waters of the firmament at bay.
>>665574205 I can't say that no one has been to the edge so I can't say whether that is true or false and why its true or false.
>>665574672 No. The model is sound because the sun is about 3100 miles away and 32 miles across. It is more reasonable because the calculations are readily available to support it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lchtwf5Fvhc&feature=youtu.be&t=29m3s
>>665574708 I just liked the pic as an OP. Don't read too much into it.
It's not true that southern hemisphere flights take the same time as northern hemisphere flights. In fact they DO take longer. Up to three times longer. https://youtu.be/TdoGTeM0koQ?t=31m4s
>>665575603 why does the sun act like a spot light in flat earth theory? if it is that far away the whole earth would be illuminated permanently, the only way for it to be a spotlight would be to be extremely close to the surface of the earth and somehow not destroy the planet from its heat
>what evidence do you have to support the assertion that the earth is flat?
>here's an answer: The moon being visible in the daytime from 20 miles up when it is supposed to be on the other side of the "globe." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt-q2ysGaZQ
I have never witnessed the phenomenon of the moon being visible in the daytime from 20 miles up when it is supposed to be on the other side of the "globe". Can you please direct me to evidence which demonstrates that you can see the moon from 20 miles up when it is supposed to be on the other side of the globe. Also, can you direct me to any mainstream or scientific source (which you are opposed to in theory) which claims that you should not be able to see the moon from 20 miles up because it is supposed to be on the other side of the globe?
I ask because I would certainly hope that you are not attempting to set up a straw man argument where the opposing viewpoint is distorted and then that poorly construed idea is attacked in the attempt to make the original idea seem preposterous
I can't believe people really think this. Take the 'evidence' presented by fuckin random asshats against what? Like 200 years off proof, a fucking space station orbiting us, the ability to leave our planet.
Are you fucking stupid? Have you never fucking thought for five seconds that most of the evidence of Flat Earth is the ramblings of fucking autistic, retarded, down syndrome, Internet 'scientists' that use buzz words and uncitable sources to trick people and regress our understanding of OUR OWN FUCKING PLANET
My theory is "The earth is flat not a globe. Ask me some stuff and I will give you evidence that the earth is both not a globe and also is flat (i.e. not hollow).
>>665575222 You mean the red bull thing. There were two cameras there. One fish eye on the outside. One regular on the inside. The regular camera shows a uniformly flat horizon. I can't find the source I'm looking for but here is a different one. SHIT MUSIC WARNING https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPFOHoTP2_k
>>665575253 It's getting closer and farther. If you were at the middle of its path it wouldn't go down or up at all until the season changed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lchtwf5Fvhc&feature=youtu.be&t=29m3s
I have conclusive experimental proof that the Earth is flat and not a sphere, as the so-called "Scientists" would have you believe.
Take a ball, hold it up, and try placing a chess piece on the side or on the bottom. You will immediately notice that the chess piece falls to the ground. You know why? Because objects fall down. It would be impossible for us to live on anywhere other than the very top of a giant sphere.
Therefore, according to Occam's Razor, a flat plane is the only logical solution.
>>665575603 That video posted about flights not going direct is the biggest load of crap. He poses a theory about a flight route, that has to go indirect (because emirates operates out of Dubai), then also says that there is a Qantas flight that goes direct and is a normal flight time, speculating that it probably doesn't exist. WHAT THE FUCK. That's just dismissing information because it doesn't fit into your theory
You know OP I don't exactly believe this but at the same time what if "earth" (as we can view it from space) IS the firmament? If there was such a thing it WOULD appear as a round fisheye view of what it held. (Day the earth stood still) Also, in ancient times "bottomless waters" would be synonymous with "infinite darkness". Please provide more bonerrific backup to this theory.
>>665571071 How do you explain the massive wealth of video footage, much of it predating modern video editing and CGI, from the stratosphere, depicting the curve and rotation of the Earth?
How do you explain the projects some schoolchildren have done in which they strap a Gopro to a weather balloon and manage to get so high they can see the curve of the Earth? The world record skydive video from the edge of space put out in recent years?
everybody does live on the exact top of the sphere dumb fuck,
it just so happens that when youre on a sphere which has the only substantial gravitational force around, every single point which you stand is the top, no matter which side of the globe youre on as all gravity pulls you towards the centre on a globe and not to the planet underneath the ball you use as an example
I appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions about the Earth being flat. I would like to think that if you started a question offering to ask questions about the Earth being flat you wouldn't evade certain questions about the Earth being flat.
That said, your evidence of the Earth being flat (example 1) is "The moon being visible in the daytime from 20 miles up when it is supposed to be on the other side of the "globe.""
My response is here >>665576069 and I hope you continue to possess the faculties to answer questions about a Flat Earth in a thread started by yourself with the title ...Answering Flat Earth Questions
>>665575558 That particular map I can't confirm that its accurate. I just chose it because I like it. I know the earth isn't in a bowl so its not accurate right there.
>>665575680 God made the earth and he made it flat. He but the sun in the sky and the moon too. He keeps the waters of the firmament at bay with a dome. I'm not here to discuss the origins of the earth. I'm here to tell you that if you look for the shape of the earth TODAY you will find it flat and not globular.
>>665575743 Satellites don't exist. https://youtu.be/TdoGTeM0koQ?t=13m14s >inb4 I can see satellites with my naked eye retard. I've never seen one but I know people who have seen their light. However, consider this. When you see a plan 5-7miles up feet up it looks like a spec of light. Then how can you see a satellite, which is the size of a car or bus, at 100 miles away? You wouldn't. I don't know what those things are but they aren't satellites. https://youtu.be/TdoGTeM0koQ?t=16m56s
>>665574161 If you go to the Center of the flat earth or the North pole of the globe...then heres the answer. 1. go south 100 miles then 2. go east 100 miles then 3. go north 100 mile...if you end up where you started...its a globe...if you're 100 miles from where you started...it's flat....somebody go do the proofs.....I'll be right here waiting
>>665571071 Simple question. What does anyone benefit from perpetuating the lie that the earth is round? I can't see monetary gain, or control, nobody gains from this "conspiracy", so why lie? What are "they" (including everyone who works for an airline and space agency across the entire planet) have to hide?
>>665571071 What's on the other side? Is it flat like a sheet of paper? Or is there depth to the earth? How can you explain flying around the earth at 90 degree angles in a straight lines and end up back over the same spot geographically
>>665571071 If the Earth is flat, does that mean other planets and celestial bodies are also flat? Is the Sun flat? What about Saturn? If so, explain the rings.
Also if the Earth is flat, that would imply gravity comes from somewhere 'outside' of the Earth-plane, which leads me to wonder, >wouldn't the gravity well cause the Earth to bend into a spherical shape around it?
>>665575832 Because mind control, mental abuse, and stealing the billion dollar budget for nasa. It's the biggest lie they can tell. If they can convince you of that they can convince you of the smallest things. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdoGTeM0koQ&feature=youtu.be&t=44m12s >they who Freemasons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdoGTeM0koQ&feature=youtu.be&t=41m2s
>>665575975 That is said to be the only real picture of the earth by nasa. Broadcasted live. But the continents are wrong. https://youtu.be/lchtwf5Fvhc?t=9m20s
>>665576175 That is a picture of the earth we are told, from the moon. That looks like the moon looks from the earth. Except the earth is four times bigger than the moon. It should be four times bigger in that picture. That is a schoolboy error. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lchtwf5Fvhc&feature=youtu.be&t=38m32s
>>665578387 east would still be on an arced path as if the centre of the flat earth is north, as when you look at the compass would be on the left of your compass and if you follow that it wouldnt work
>>665579003 >It should be four times bigger in that picture. But perspective. Even ignoring all pretension of the earth being flat, you can't say the Earth would be larger than the horizon of the moon because of the enormous distance between the Earth and the Moon. THAT is a schoolboy error, as you put it.
>>665579003 You're so fucking stupid. Get out of your mom's basement and stop with the tinfoil hat bullshit. No one is controlling your life, what you learn, or what you do. You simply blame other sources for your obvious failings.
>>665574161 according to that gif both sun and moon should always be visible in every point on the flat earth at any given time, just with different distances. but they're not. i'm sitting here, with my laptop, it's night and i see the moon. i've seen the moonrise, i'll see the moonset, i'm european and if i call my aunt in australia she'll confirm me that it's daytime there. if the earth is flat and it has only one living side the sun can only orbit on that side and be always visible cause again, it's a point over a plane. it can't disappear and if it does it disappears for the whole plane.
>>665575980 It is close and small. 3100 miles up and 32 miles across. https://youtu.be/lchtwf5Fvhc?t=9m20s
>>665576069 I've already given you the tools to answer that question. I won't write it out because there are too many people with questions for me to do that. The video explains it very well and scientifically.
>>665576074 It is not necessary that the earth be round for that to happen That does happen and its because of perspective. It is also why the sun appears to set when really its getting further away and curving slightly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lchtwf5Fvhc&feature=youtu.be&t=29m3s
>>665576152 Show some proof and I'll switch camps. I've seen a bunch of proof against globe earth and a bunch of proof which proves the flatness of earth (which also disproves the concavity of earth. Am I mislead?
>>665576198 It's bullshit. There is no coriolis effect. I guess. I don't know. I vaguely remember my source on that.
>>665579900 >There is no coriolis effect But that's just fucking demonstrably wrong you moron. Like I can take you out to a field in Ohio and prove to you that you are incorrect. The Coriolis effect is easily demonstrable.
This is fucking stupid. We have satellites in orbit that can video record our planet. Clearly, from the pictures, as well as the videos, we've seen prove that the earth is a sphere. Why are people still clinging on to the idea that it is round? Look into a telescope and look at Mars. It is clearly a sphere. Look at our sun, or other stars for that matter. What more proof do you want? Haven't you been on a plane before? You can clearly see the horizon curve right towards the end of it.
>>665580195 But it would be directed to the center, not straight "down" dipshit, we'd fall sideways until we reached a pole. Besides, Gravity would push any flat disc into a rounded shape at planetary scale, that's WHY planets are spherical
>>>665576074 >It is not necessary that the earth be round for that to happen That does happen and its because of perspective. It is also why the sun appears to set when really its getting further away and curving slightly
So you admit the sun goes beyond the horizon line due to the earth's curvature? I'm not watching that video because I'm sick of hearing that man continue with his complete horseshit broken science
"Columbus thought that the Earth was round (spherical) and gave the following proof: when a large ship (with a tall mast) sails away from a port, it appears to get smaller and smaller before it completely disappears from sight at the horizon. The curious thing, however, is that while the entire ship is visible as it leaves port, only the mast remains visible just before it vanishes."
>>665580514 >see satellites with the naked eye Yeah I highly doubt that is possible. If humans can't even read a sign across teh Grand Canyon, how is it possible to see a satellite that barely reflects light? >and when it does reflect the light, it is only for a given moment of time >it's like seeing a unicorn
>>665580536 I'm not smart enough to answer these but you should look up eric dubay that dude has all the answers to your questions better try and arrange a debate with him rather than some b/tards, surely.
>>665580195 The existance of gravity which acts in all directions is proof enough that it is round. Since all directions means everything is clumped into a sphere since the begining. Altough some angels might be sending too strong winds or something to make it malfunction. Didn't read that fairytale yet.
>>665576213 That's a shill's excuse. NOT ONE person does it because it would take too long. It would take even longer than the 26 hours it takes going in a straight line. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdoGTeM0koQ&feature=youtu.be&t=31m4s
>>665576507 >>665576732 >>665576606 Nope. I'm saying that magellan traveled perpendicular to the north pole and arrived at the same point from an opposite direction. That is probably true. What is definitely true is that feat is possible on both the globe earth model and the real flat earth. He went in a circle either way.
>>665576768 I personally don't know off the top of my head.
>>665577210 They aren't real. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdoGTeM0koQ&feature=youtu.be&t=13m14s >but I've seen them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdoGTeM0koQ&feature=youtu.be&t=16m56s
>>665577264 All planes in the southern hemisphere turn of their gps over the ocean. They don't do this in the northern hemisphere. Can you tell me why that is?
>>665580431 How do you know we don't fall sideways? Everything we see is upside down anyways. Look at a magnifying glass while holding it far away from you. It's far away, you see things upside down, but it's actually righting the world. for us.
And why if you're looking in a mirror, it reverses everything - your left side on your right side and vice versa, but it doesn't reverse the image vertically?
Gravity is the same way. Unknowable, really. Nobody knows what gravity is. Just what it does. Not what causes it and what causes our eyes to perceive sideways as down.
>>665581298 Completely other question, but do you know what burden of proof is? Because your answers don't hold any actual weight, you're not providing evidence with explanations and assertions, you're just throwing out nonsense to the effect of "because" with really poor pseudoscience videos.
>>665581335 because people just can't see that far also that is one thing you can blame on atmosphere look up 200 proofs the earth is not a spinning ball on youtube even if none of its true almost all of it makes sense
>>665571071 OP you can prove it yourself. Jump when standing on the Earth and jump while inside a moving train. If both produce the same result, we are correct. If either produces a different result then the other, you are correct.
>>665581439 Beat me to it. >>665581100 Could be shooting stars or tailless comets. Either way, it's virtually impossible to see them with the naked eye. >>665581138 I'm 29 and I've yet to see one with just my eyes. Even if a person had 20/20, it's impossible to spot one. The amount of light it would reflect to be "noticeable" wouldn't be nearly enough for a person to see. >in both day and night
>>665578757 Might do this just for shits and giggles, then I'll put a patch at the bottom of the fundraiser saying, "If Earth turns out to be round, then I'll email about my views on the matter." Giving a cop out reason to keep the money.
>>665581809 Really. So what causes gravity. What causes the attraction of objects? What makes us stick to the surface of a flat, spinning object? We can measure the phenomena, like time,but we don't know what it is.
>>665581481 >How do you know we don't fall sideways? Because the earth has been proven to be spherical. Also, "sideways" in thos context is subjective to our side from a standing position, which we don't fall towards. Your attempted sophistry there is moot. >Everything we see is upside down anyways. Again, that's subjective to how we see the world, that doesn't actually mean anything and you're just trying to sound deep >Look at a magnifying glass while holding it far away from you. It's far away, you see things upside down, but it's actually righting the world. for us. Actually, you just don't know how lenses work >And why if you're looking in a mirror, it reverses everything - your left side on your right side and vice versa, but it doesn't reverse the image vertically? Again, because you don't know how reflection works >Gravity is the same way. Unknowable, really. Nobody knows what gravity is. Just what it does. Not what causes it and what causes our eyes to perceive sideways as down. No, everyone but you understands how it works, you're just trying to purposefully obfuscate things to sound smart
>>665581630 >10 minutes I'd be there for days trying to spot it, seeing how it is comparable to witnessing a unicorn. Point I'm trying to make is, no one can see them without a telescope or a high powered lens.
>>665582529 >>665582391 Alright, I'll assume I am wrong. That being said, how would I be able to distinguish a satellite from a shooting star? Cause as far as I know, shooting stars are, "dots that cruise through the sky".
>>665582423 The stars appear to stay more static because the earth revolves around the sun as it revolves around it's own axis. Even ancient societies understood this.
Question, if the Earth is flat, how do calendars keep lining up the seasons correctly with incredible accuracy, even though they were developed centuries before anyone had the means to "spoof" the earth's rotation?
"Surprisingly there are a large portion of manmade satellites that can be seen with the naked eye. Sightings can number up to a hundred in a single night if you have good viewing conditions. To identify a satellite you are looking for a star that looks like it is slowly moving across the night sky."
If your flat earth model was true that would mean that the sun rises and set across the entire surface of our "disk" correct? So then would that mean there is a period of time when the sun does not shine on said "disk"? If this is all correct couldn't we just take pictures of the sun with time stamps and ironically gps coordinates every hour for 24 hours sunrise to sunrise to prove or disprove the shape of the earth?
Similarly if the flat earth model is true how do you explain the shifting position of the moon in the sky during its phases like a harvest moon for example?
Further more if the sun revovles around the earth why dont the sun and moon rise and set at the same time everyday?
>>665582842 Shooting stars are very quick flashes of bright light that move a small portion of the night sky. A satellite can be tracked slowly from horizon to horizon. Have you not seen a shooting star?
>>665571071 In case you're still answearing OP, If the earth is flat, why do we see some stars in the sky in north hemisphere and diferent one in the south hemisphere?
why is it that if i travel 10 miles to the left, then do 90º angle turn to the left and travel another 10 miles, and then turn again 90º to the left, i end up in the exact same spot while forming a triangle?
and why is it that u refuse to go on a plane a keep traveling south/downwards/away from the north pole (as many scientists have done exept flat earth believers) and in a inexplicably way, reach the north pole?
>>665583016 I live in the city. We get lucky to see stars in the night sky. Still, seeing something that does not emit light (but reflects it), in the night sky with the naked eye seems pretty damn impossible to me. >except the moon On top of that, satellites are not that big. So idk how the fuck you're seeing this shit anon.
>>665577708 This video answers the how, the who, and the why. >How and who? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdoGTeM0koQ&feature=youtu.be&t=41m15s >Why https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdoGTeM0koQ&feature=youtu.be&t=44m12s
>>665577770 Coriolis effect doesn't real? I don't know.
>Why does an aircraft route plotted along a great circle reduce travel times compared to a flat-earth-projected straight line? It doesn't? Flat paths have no changed since I've posted this thread. My hope is that your UNDERSTANDING of why they are so wonkey has changed, in regards to southern hemisphere flights. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdoGTeM0koQ&feature=youtu.be&t=31m4s
>Why does a tangent from the earth's surface not intersect it again? Because the earth surface is flat, not concave. I think I understand that question.
>If gravity is not a mass-based r-squared law, how do you explain Cavendish's (and subsequent) experiments? I've never attempted to explain it and I won't today.
>If gravity IS a mass-based r-squared lot, why is there net downward gravity at the equator? I don't understand the question. Good day. I think you purposely squandered my attention in there by asking those last two question. You must be very smart. My condolences.
>>665583427 Okay I've seen both satellites and shooting stars, many times. Until you go out somewhere with a very small light pollution and spend a night looking up, don't tell me what is and is not wrong. I have real world experience, you're just reading shit online.
>>665583329 don't get personal or make assumptions about me. those hundreds of thousands of people you mentioned must also be following the same lack of thinking you are so desperately clinging to. I have heard things that refute that and seeing as neither of us can prove it I suggest try to find a neutral corner, rather than shouting you smart mouth off
>>665584073 >neither of us can prove it Two things: A: I very easily can, as can all the others itt telling you how simple it is. Only you lack the capacity to go out on a clear night and look at things in the sky and draw basic mathematical conclusions B: I don't have to prove it. Given that spherical planets are the scientifically backed and accepted truth, the Burden of Proof falls on you to present evidence to the contrary; saying that you can't figure it out is evidence of nothing but your own ignorance.
>>665578387 The same is true on a flat, concentric earth. Go south (away from the the north pole) 100 miles. Go east (perpendicular, neither toward or away) 100 miles Go north (toward the north pole) 100 miles. You end up in the same place on the globe model and on the flat earth model. It isn't an exclusive property to globes.
>>665578407 It takes even longer to travel in the southern hemisphere. THAT is what is being hidden from you. That the more north you are, the shorter the distance around the earth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdoGTeM0koQ&feature=youtu.be&t=31m4s
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