Mouth fedora cringe thread and discussion why the "vapers" are cancer
Just annoying all around. Friend quit smoking cigarettes and switched to vaping talked about all the money he was saving. Meanwhile I was with him the other day when he was buying a refill bottle and it was like 25$.
>mfw he spends more money now
>mfw no face
i too used to complain about petty faggots like the fedora vapists. but I have a much bigger problem with these islamic rapists in germany, check out the song of revolution
I smoked for the last 17 years and vaping is FAR cheaper. A carton of ciggaretts is $114 and I smoked 1.5 a week.
I can vape 4 different flavors (30ml bottles) replace the wicks, and buy a random new tank every few weeks, and its still under $100 a month.
Vaping is 1/4 the price or less of smoking
They are working on it because they know their obsolete ways of setting fire to plant matter is dying... but yes some of those dinosaurs are still fighting to save the only thing they know..
>I'm not addicted
Are you too autistic to understand how a drug works? I'm sure I could overcome it if I really tried but I don't want to make the effort bc I'd rather keep doing it anyway
I smoked for 5 years. I wanted to quit smoking but I found myself replacing smoking with dipping or drinking more. And usually if I was drinking, my urges would get the best of me and I would end up smoking any way.
I vaped for a year and then quit that. Now I don't smoke, nor do I vape.
Call it what you want faggot but it is cheaper and a lot healthier than smoking. I think box mods and making clouds is lame but if that's the worst thing people are going to put in their bodies then who gives a fuck.
In America and other civilized countries. The rest of the world still smokes. Look at China and India. You think tobacco companies care about us when theres over 2 billion of them?
I only blow it in someone's face if it's my friend or my girlfriend and I'm purposely trying to annoy them
Most of us aren't autistic
It's like when someone starts out with weed and tweaks out and everyone says it's proof weed is evil
lul...you absolute mongoloids have no clue about vaping.That includes how to spell it, faggots.
I'm Irish, so at least im not a dumb redneck, land-stealer like you 'americans'...fucking scumbags.
If your 'friend' paid $25 for juice that lasts at least 3 weeks....how about a quick math lesson for you wankers. 1x 20 pack of cigarettes in Ireland is, on average, £8. so lets say they're $5 in America.
Now lets say your 'friend' smokes 1 pack a day, I used to smoke 2 packs a day so its not unreasonable. 3 x 7 = 21 (that means there are 21 days in 3 weeks). 21x5=105 (That means it would be 105dollars for cigarettes in 3 weeks.
Put that against your 25 dollars for a bottle of liquid. You fucking cunt.
Oh and as for the cancer. Cancer isnt caused by inhaling nicotine you cunt. The carcinogens (cancer causing chemicals) are found in the actual smoke that comes from burning tobacco.
So dont be jealous because theres a new technology that didn't include you and you're not educated in.
Not like you have much education anyway. Your country is a shit hole. You still have to pay for healthcare.
Nice to know your country will help you and give you so much when you have to give them your life.
Oh. Wait. You mean you are all spastic cunts with no clue how to human? YES. YOU SLOBBERING CUNT!
I guess this is way sexier than vaping
yes there is sir, so?
May I remind you, potatoes aren't an Irish thing. They're from South America you fucking cumbucket cunt.
Also, you never eaten a french fry?
AWWWW SHIT....Then you're a potato eating faggot....whoops
>you made a grammatical mistake thus your point is invalid
It does prevent cancer you cunt.
Smoke ciggerates = have cancer
Smoke vapor - dont have cancer
stop the retardation in your brain
I like the original purpose of vaping, to help smokers kick their addiction or switch to a healthier alternative. It's a shame these faggots adopted it and think they're cool for "smoking" without actually smoking.
It's like people who take vitamins and think they're cool for "popping pills" without actually popping pills.
The act of vaping is not Douchbaggery in of itself. its actually a great way to stop smoking,
However, like everything else, cringe fags have taken it upon themselves to make it cringe. I like the term mouth-fedora. its a shame. You walk into a vape shop and its FILLED with neckbeards and fedoras, all of them feeling smug and sophisticated with their devices and chemicals.
My dad started vaping to quit smoking. He hates going into those shops to buy refils and whanot because of all the assholes. One time I went with him and waited outside. I took a few hits off his pen-thing to see what it was like. All of a sudden these two assholes appear out of nowhere, bust out this big all-spark looking thing and start blowing clouds right next to me. It was like something out of "Better off Dead." It was the mouth-fedora equivalent of spinning your tires at a redlight.
They have been out for over 15 years and the original plans for the invention are over 50 years old.
They have done long lasting testing on them you moron.
There are fewer carcinogens in vapour than there are in your regular normal polluted 'air' that everyone breathes.
So going by your logic, you should stop breathing, give that up. might actually help us
Per the CDC, nicotine having carcinogenic properties is inconclusive; and this comes from both sides of research over the last 50 years.
Since nicotine is the primary cancer chemical, you're not just wrong, but a fucking moron.
It isn't proven, because it takes over 20 years of data and a bunch of idiot faggots like you dying of mouth/lung/throat cancer to make the case, and this shit has only been around for five years.
I vape everyday
They do cause cancer
You're still burning something and inhaling it
It's just has much less short term effects and is less carcinogenic than burning tobacco mixed with tons of chemicals
But IT STILL CAUSES CANCER
its called irony you mistake.
And thats not the same as preventing cancer. Thats non-cancer causing. But it still does cause a form of mouth cancer.
But obviously anyone dumb enough to vape is dumb enough not to follow any of this so heres a picture of a cat.
One of my favorite videos of all time
You literally couldn't be more wrong.
NICOTINE IN AND OF ITSELF DOES NOT AND CANNOT CAUSE CANCEER. ALSO, INHALING IT IS THE SAFEST WAY OF TAKING IT IN.
NICOTINE WAS NEVER THE PROBLEM CAUSING CHEMICAL IN CIGARETTES. NOR WAS IT THE MOST ADDICTIVE THING.
THE MOST ADDICTIVE THING WAS THE CARBON MONOXIDE GIVEN OFF AND INHALED BY THE SMOKER BY INCOMPLETE COMBUSTION OF TOBACCO. THE CARCINOGENS ARE IN THE SMOKE OF THE CIGARETTE.......NOT THE FUCKING NICOTINE
Fair enough, I dint think I'd have any problems with it then. The issue is the only people I know irl who vape are a bunch of inner city hipsters and hyper liberals and fuck.... I dont care about their vaping yet they manage to be total fuckin assholes about it.
There will be a couple people sitting at a table bullshitting, when a friend of someone at the table will sit down, lean in as close as he can to the group as a whole, and just breathe out the breath he's been holding for two minutes. It's so fucking cringey I wanna puke just thinking about it
That dude looks like the quintessential faggotron overlord.
Everything that harms the body and causes cells to die and forces them to rebuild causes cancer. It's when the cells have to reproduce quickly the mutations occur like a cell that can't stop reproducing. The polutance in the air can cause cancer.
You're not "burning" anything. You're turning vegetable glycerin, propylene glycol, nicotine and flavours into vapour. Burning tobacco releases a shit tonne of carcinogens and other hideous chemicals. Vaping is just taking ingredients found in food and turning them into steam.
Vaping is unamerican. Do you know how european you sound (4 different flavors!!!), plus you're not helping the economy none.
>but you do have abominable trips
and there isnt actually formaldehyde in properly made e cigarette liquid.
there would only be propylene glycol (the oil your skin gives off) and vegetable glycerine (vegetable fat)
Spoken like a true addict in denial.
After like a week of vaping I quit because I immediately came down with some kind of lung bullshit worse than it ever was when I smoked. I quit that too.
No reaction is 100% efficient so there's whatever else in it that they used to make it.
dyes are not studied that much and as you know, adding heat to things changes things around significantly.
You literally have no idea what you're inhaling. When vapers start dropping off with all kinds of weird ailments I'm going to have to get some duck tape for my sides because they're going to reach critical mass and fucking explode.
Atomized into a quickly absorbent vapor, just because it stays vapor and looks like smoke when you exhale.
Plus nicotine, a extremely addictive drug.
Flavored any way you like!
If big cigarette company's don't get involved they would be missing out. Since they have all three main ingredients readily available..
How about not smoking or vaping or chewing altogether? That shit is beyond nasty and nicotine is a harmful drug linked to all kinds of shitty diseases and health problems.
If you use tobacco at all, you really are a retard
>ex-smoker who got wise years ago
That shit will literally kill you. But I guess we need to weed out the morons somehow...
>addicted to nicotine
just stop smoking
i smoked for about 2 and a half years and just stopped one day because i got sick and couldnt smoke for a few days. after that i just never went back. its not hard.
I'm not your mum, do a bit of digging for yourself you slime ball cunt. As long as you dont just believe the first thing that you read.
Who stands to lose the most from people vaping? Big Pharma, and big tobacco.
The government loses out on fuck-tonnes of money if people became healthier by vaping instead of smoking. then you wouldnt have health bills to pay.
Having cancer nd getting cured for cancer normally costs around $1,000,000 on average.
If people stopped getting lung cancer by vaping instead of smokeing then who loses out money?
Don't believe everything you hear.
Back then it was even good for you!
What I hate most about vapers is when they start telling you that there are absolutely no health risk.
Who cares if they dont give you cancer, they dont feel like regular cigarettes so who cares. if you dont want cancer then jus take some nicotine pills or dont take it at all.
I'm smoking cause i like feeling in the lungs, smell, and all the process of smoking the cig and i cant understand why would someone use those toys? Just quit smoking retards.
Doctor: Are you sexually active?
Teen: I vape
Doctor: A simple "No" would have sufficed
>Toxic components in the liquids.
>Heavy metals in the vapor
>Carcinogenic substances found once vaporized
>Unregulated additives for the flavorings
>Propylene glycol vapor advised against inhaling
But you're right. They're perfectly healthy
how have i no idea what im inhaling you moron. I have my own fucking company and lab that produces pharmaceutical grade e liquid.
I know exactly what I'm inhaling.
However, it isn't for everyone. if you have a reation everytime you inhale something you may have an oxygen deficiency, where your lungs are unable to give your haemoglobin as much o2 as they need, like COPD.
Have that checked out mate
this guy is right. my cat also died of hamster because i didn't vape on a regular basis. now i vape and everyone in my family is healthy plus it cured my grandma from parkinsons
Vaping says "I don't know dick about chemistry and that I would be better off smoking, also I would look like less of a tool but i long to be different like everyone else so I go to extreme lengths to deny any scary information that what I'm doing is bad for me"
These things are EXACTLY like cigarettes. Remember, there used to be ads for camel or whatever the fuck brand that says "doctors prefer xxx brand" and shit.
Same shit different day. I don't give a shit about vaping (okay, I hate the fact it makes you smell like a faggot) but saying it's not bad for you just ignant.
Get ah-tta hea! Nobody aksked your opinion henry.
Oohhh that's why you can switch to vaping from smoking with next to no withdrawal. It makes sense now. You're addicted to carbon monoxide.
>Science is my bible
>*tips mouth fedora*
Read the article. It's not just the source of the liquids the vapes themselves lose some of the metals that come in contact with the liquids tk vaporize them and you get vapor with nickel and chromium particles and shit. Learn to read faggot
>anyone as qualified as him
yeah anyone with half a brain trying to make a few quick bucks by making a bullshit list that will tell people comforting lies, in turn making it more popular. Ya moron.
Just because you mix chemicals from overseas with labels of what they're mostly made up of and sell them on Ebay, doesn't mean you can call it a lab.
There's no carbon monoxide produced in vaping so how the fuck would i be addiced to carbon monoxide now? you just argued against yourself.
being able to go from vaoing to smoking without any withdrawl shows that cigarettes are harmful.
you cant go from cigarettes to anything else as easily because you experience withdrawl
>my cat died of hampster
>died of hampster
I used to be a smoker and a vaper. What I can't stand is when people use vaping as a cop-out to not quit nicotine entirely. I vaped as an aid to quitting smoking cigarettes and used vaping as an aid to quit nicotine all together.
>inb4 muh mods
>inb4 muh clouds
yeah thats why i dont use nickel or chrome coils you cunt.
You a metal that oxideses at a very high temperature, something like Kanthal.
or stainless steel. therefore when it heats up it doesn't oxidise and therefore, doesn't cause cancer.
Can't read, but can write; i deserve an award...
Tobacco leaves contain polonium 210.
That is what gives you cancer.
Alpha decay and radiation damage from having it inside your body.
If it doesn't contain that then it would be a safer form of nicotine consumption.
>defending the tobacco industry
I don't think they need your help, guys. You can stop shit posting all day about vaping.
>smoked for 5 years
>bought a vape to quit smoking
>now on 0nic
>just do it for the flavor and the clouds bro
>not a nigger so i dont do it in public
>enjoy building my own coils and making my own juice
its nice to see everyone so butthurt about it though..
"...arguments dissolve in the face of numerous studies like these,.." where it literally hyperlinks to this page: http://publichealth.drexel.edu/~/media/Files/publichealth/ms08.ashx
>nice sauce m8
just to side with a fag op, got nothing against vapers but still
>15 year old kids on the street
>they dont smoke
>start waping cause its "cool" and puffs big clouds of smoke and can taste like alcohol drinks
>kids are fucking stupid
Vaping stopped me smoking cigarettes and I'm grateful for that, now I don't smell like an absolute cunt, my teeth aren't getting stained and I have a much less risk of getting cancer and breathing problems.
I get the reason why vapes get such a bad name, because of all the little faggots that use them to get big clouds and shit, and I hate when people start vaping without using it as a smoking aid because they're doing it to look cool. That I can agree on.
What I don't agree on is all vapers being faggots, because it does sort of turn into a hobby. i.e building coils etc. All the bad hype around them in the news is clearly big tobacco companies trying to oust the vape industry because of how much money they'll loose. You can even look this shit up, vaping is far less damaging to health that smoking tobacco.
The fact the media tried to persuade everyone how vaping was bad because of the levels of diacetyl made me laugh, considering the levels were exaggerated AND the fact there is 4000 times more diacetyl in cigarettes. I can see a lot of people in this thread are either trolling or just massively confused over how vapes actually work. Go and do some research because you look like fucking idiots
>>go to wal mart
>>late night, as approach i see smoke/steam/vapor rising from an old mini van across the parking lot
>>i figure radiator blew
>>investigate as i walk to store
>>get close to see fat neckbeard in cut off sleeve black t shirt has modified back of minivan into vape lounge where he takes up one bench seat and has his legs stretched out where the other seat had been removed
>>compulsively, successively hitting vape rig until a steady cloud is billowing out of both open doors
>>dad leaning against outside of van wearing cowboy hat; old ladies walk past ask the dad: "is everything ok? do you need us to call a tow truck?"
>>dad replies enthusiastically with a smirk of pride: "nah, thats just my son; he does vape!"
>>son leans forwards towards open side door and gives nod of acknowledgement towards ladies as he furiously hits rig
>>old ladies do not understand whats goin on and ask: " ok are you sure you dont need any help?"
>>"no thanks its just vape'
Who the fuck said anything about the tobacco industry. By the way, in your list the first thing it says is that the two most popular brands of e-cigs are mad by TOBACCO. COMPANIES.
>did i just get b8ed?
>By the way, in your list the first thing it says is that the two most popular brands of e-cigs are mad by TOBACCO. COMPANIES.
Yes and he said they were shit and possibly harmful. Do they not teach basic comprehension in your country?
So you're saying that Europe's stricter drug regulations okay and regulated that? Bitch please, they sent back a case of fireball to the states once because of too much propylene glycol in it and it was okayed for American consumption
I live near a high school where kids vape outside all the time. One of the most hilarious things a local prankster did was hand them "free samples".
>pissed in a bottle
>mixed it with the stuff needed
>handed out his piss to teenage vapers to smoke
This logic is the same logic big business used when they had dangerous chemicals in there products. The fact is the government, laws and people disagree with you. Hense why the fda put paperwork forward to regulate, and then kill the vape industry's smaller entities that cannot provide safe product.
spotted the mouth-fedora
>$25 isn't a lot to spend on flavored air!!!
guess how much money i spent on tobacco this month/year/decade, bud?
>no clue how to human
go back to reddit LOL holy shit i can't believe you're a real person
Okay so you've solved the coil issue. Now solve the vaporized chemical additants of the flavorings acting as toxicants and carcinogens as well as cure the respiration irritant characteristics of propylene glycol
dipping is for poor rednecks and white trash
>enjoy having literal shit in your teeth
id say "dippers" are on par with "vapers" as far as being a shitty person.. infact just about anyone who uses nicotine and isnt atleast 60 years old is a waste of life
Not who you were talking to, but I already posted this earlier in the thread as to why its bad
I don't think any intelligent person here is saying worse in general than tobacco, but they aren't safe/healthy like some idiots are claiming.
If you buy proper flavourings, or you get a chemistry degree, like myself, and make it yourself, then you shouldnt have a problem with toxins.
If you buy from someone who doesn't disclose what is in the flavourings, then you're going to get duped over.
And as a matter of fact, propylene glycol is found naturally in your body.
Common misconception for it to be considered harmful because it is added to anti-freeze
or you could, you know, just not indulge in vaping OR smoking
observe your average mouth fedora, everyone
this guy gets it
only if you do your best to hide that faggotry in public and quit as soon as possible
another angry mouth-fedora spotted
Mouth fedora is shitty compared to douche flute, I submit to you all that you should start, or continue calling them douche flutes. 1. it goes in your mouth, flutes go near your mouth. 2. When I think fedora wearer, I don't think of him vaping, I imagine him smoking cloves.
So please /b/ hear my plea, change your vernacular
Oh right yeah I'm not claiming it's 'healthy', but it's safer than inhaling thousands of chemicals/carcinogenics. When the juices I buy only have vg/pg, nicotine and flavouring.
Granted these things have additional shit when vaped but still, I much prefer that over smoking tobacco
Your math works until you realize that a carton is only $35. Some smokers aren't kids that's only buy a pack at a time.
You've also forgotten about rolling your own tobacco, a pound bag is only $12.
But you're Irish and probably won't be able to read this on account of your people being retarded.
>implying you know dick about biology
Pls go. You know the chemicals and can cross reference a chart to see if it's not going to immediately kill you but you're just digging the idiot hole deeper.
It doesn't matter about "proper flavorings" the chemicals when vaporized act differently. Also propylene glycol is not natural in the human body. Way to blow all your "chemistry degree" credibility.
Only when you're vaping with over 5 volts, tbh if you're vaping one of those shitty pen ones with refill cartridges you're not really vaping. Those cartridges are the ones the EU are putting regulations on, and also the ones that have more than 4 ingredients in
yeah...ever head of biochemistry?
You're aware that to get into uni to do a chemistry degree you have to get A levels in biology chemistry and physics?
Also, biology is a part of being a paramedic
no cigarettes have formaldehyde. It's possible some vape liquids have it but most do not, just check the ingredients of what you consume. Vaping can and most likely will cause health problems over time, but so does eating red meat. There are so many things that cause cancer that everyone ITT indulges in everyday.
Does what you describe fall under the guidelines he just laid out you, argumentative Fuck wad. Of course he doesn't give a shit if you don't do the things he's complaining about. Go choke on your cheap as vape you poor fag!
>Lol I chortled writing this
Am I to expect this sort of hissy fit when marijuana becomes legal? All the superior non smokers will come down from their throne to mock those who enjoy the worlds greatest gift to mankind?
kek, i bet you live in a trailer park. you do realize that the rest of the world looks at you in the same light as pic related
>biology is a part of being a paramedic
You know how to plug puncture wounds and hand off the stiff to a real doctor who does have a BA in biochem.
I am a paramedic. I know your job.
There's nothing hipster about it, and I think you're a faggot for calling it that. It's a bullshit fad that probably won't be around in ten years. That's like saying I'm jealous of vegetarians for not being in their club. I hate blacks because they're niggers and I hate people who vape because they're faggots. It's really black and white.
Okay. Ill take the bait. Assuming you really do that, just because you take the same chemicals pharmaceutical companies use in medicines does not mean the product of your reactions remains pharmaceutical grade.
Why is there hate though? If they're genuinely used to help people to stop smoking and stop being addicted to nicotine?
Surely even you retards must realise that's a good thing. Some people stop vaping all together or just go to 0mg juices if they enjoy the habit.
No one's telling you not to fap to traps and eat your own cum but pretty sure you still do it
What? All I hear is "oh beautiful for spacious skies..."
I smoke cigarettes, I don't give a fuck what YOU put in your body. Being vegetarian is supposedly good for you too, but no one likes a smug fuck who thinks everyone is as interested in vaping as they are.
No that's not what a hipster is.
Here's the definition
> a person who follows the latest trends and fashions, especially those regarded as being outside the cultural mainstream.