Why is /b/ so full of Berniefags? You know this guy is going

>>664049280
Hillary already won.

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>>664049280
Soviet union shithol? Haha retard how does it feel having no understanding of politics what so ever?

Hello trump shill

>>664049280
>You know this guy is going to turn America into some kind of Soviet Union shithole

You don't know the difference between Socialism the economic system and socialism the political system?

You should go ahead and An Hero for being so ignorant in a public forum.

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>>664049280
http://nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-be-fooled-by-bernie-sanders-hes-a-diehard-communist/

Great article (if Bernie shills can actually read more than 2 sentences at a time). But they won't, so yawn.

>>664050136
>>664050140
read this article you mongoloids
>>664050153

Because everyone on this board is a millennial.

The youth vote yeah that really worked for Ron Paul. That really got weed legalized in California. They just talk about it they don't really do it. It's old people who decide elections and Hillary is gonna get the presidency.

Socialism is the public ownership of capital and the means of production
of public goods and services.

That includes the fire department, police, airports, harbors, CDC in Atlanta, FTC, SEC, etc.

America would be a lot worse off without consumer, employee and citizen protections.

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>>664049280
Because people from outside the US aren't brainwashed idiots.

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Capitalists wants you to believe, that wealth can be generated. It cannot. The sum of all wealth, is constant, seeing as in the end it is directly correlated to the Earth's resources. Money can be printed ad infinitum, space and matter can't. Therefore, for some people to be rich, others must be poor. It's simple mathematics, really. The entire, western hemisphere just won't seem to ever learn. Fuck Horatio Alger, fuck rags to riches and fuck the little engine that could! You ain't getting shit, unless you take from someone, and that's why we have to undo Capitalism and all it's evils.

>>664050153
OMG! I can't believe that you GOPturds are still sucking Josphe McCarthy's dick after 70 years!

What's it like to be the stupidest niggers on the planet?

>>664050099
I think you've been listening to your "smart" friends a little too much

Labor produces 90% of the wealth, but only gets paid 23% of the revenue. That's serious, hardcore re-distribution away from the real wealth creators.

>>664050248
Nop. GenX fag here; haven't voted since Nader and probably never will again. Can't wait until the day after the election so that I can wake up early, draw back the curtains, take a deep breath and see that absolutely nothing has changed.

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Daily reminder
>This man will save America

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>>664050846
>Pointing out Bernie Sanders background and totally missing the substance of the article with proven facts.
I wouldn't expect anything less from brainwashed poorfags.

>>664049280
>massive multinational corporations "failing"
>government gives them free billions of taxpayer dollars so that they can give bigger bonuses

>you think america is still a real capitalist society?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM
watch that video and realize that you could tax the "1%" 60% or more and they would still be so fucking filthy rich. you can not fathom how much money these people have. they could literally pay for everything (education, health care, disability, welfare, EVERYTHING) and still be so fucking filthy rich.

what has happened in america (and other western countries) basically it's like playing the same game of monopoly forever. the people who won the first few rounds just keep winning because they have already collected everything. eventually there's no point in even trying to play against them because they already own everything. that is what has happened in america and the west in general. how long before the game is reset? the same people can't get richer forever, where does it stop?

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>>664051190
bingo

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>>664051240
well, that's GenX in a nutshell. Fucking carefree chronic-ironic shit4brainz slackers, than can't be assed to give ½ a shit.

I should know, bro. Born '75.

we're the last generation of the old world, we who were born in the 70's. We carry that legacy, and that's quite a responsibility. Irony is.. though, responsibility might be the only thing we truly hate.
who gives a shit.
lol

>>664050783
>infinite money
> so it doesn't matter

Trying buying a loaf of bread with your faggotry and see how much your infinite source of homosexuality is worth.

>tdlr: socialism hasn't ever worked and neither does communism. As long as there are humans neither will allow people to want to work more for less. If you don't get what I mean here's the thing: in communism, everyone must be equal, to eliminate class, all pay must either be equal or a lack of currency and everyone gets vouchers for items. So basically what you are saying is: the person who works at McDonald's deserves the same amount of pay/vouchers as a doctor despite not having spent 8 years in school.
Fucking retard

>>664049280
It's sad, so weak was the Soviet Union through the contest with you, and yet they always had a stronger welfare system, better education.

>>664049280
>.
Okay kiddo

>>664049280
>You know this guy is going to turn America into some kind of Soviet Union shithole, right?
But that's the point, right?

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>>664051823
the point is that money is, in theory, infinte -but wealth is not.

but alas, you're an idiot can't grasp that simple concept.

>>664051291
>>Pointing out Bernie Sanders background and totally missing the substance of the article with proven facts.

You can't be serious. We already know that the House Committee on Un-American Activities was disgraced by McCarthy for so many false claims, including the on about the United Packinghouse Workers Union.

Do you know what a packinghouse is? Do you have any clue how miserable that kind of work is?

The Red Scare shows exactly how stupid and false all the McCarthy lies about communism turned out to be. Debs wasn't a spy. He was a union leader. His arrest was just a cheap intimidation tactic.

Republicans are deathly allergic to facts, but you should read Debs speech for yourself and then decide:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/debs/works/1918/canton.htm

>>664051823
>>tdlr: socialism hasn't ever worked and neither does communism.

Then how did the Soviet Union go from being the poorest country in Europe to America's only superpower rival in 50 years?

>>664052647
With the Strong Sozialism, best system

>>664050153
Again the media fails to realize what the fuck communism is. Wanting national healthcare is communist? Then what the fuck isn't communist!

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But... But... He's gonna give us everything for free! Wealth will be redistributed! We will be an economic and progressive powerhouse like DPRK and Cuba! My liberal Arts professors told me so!

>>664049280
>Implying the president has any real power

what are you all going to do when you realize that zionists rule the country and anyone who is even a "candidate" has already been backed by jewish money. they laugh as they watch you all argue "socialism, communism, capitalism, blah blah blah" because you don't seem to realize that it doesn't matter who is in office. the same shit still gets done. the same questionable bills and acts still get rammed through behind closed doors. you people need to get together and realize who took your freedom and prosperity away: the one group of people no one is ever allowed to criticize.

>>664052985
Fuck You, Nothing is free, we free prices and wages only from the

>>664052880

Nationalized medicine isn't communist, per se- it's more a socialist ideal. But it *is* fucking retarded.

Communist generally refers to the Government, Socialist generally refers to the economic structure of said government, hence "Democratic Socialist" and "Communist Socialist", and the inherit differences

>>664053188
market

>>664049280
because nobody should vote for hillary

>>664052985
bu...b....but.... your country already exhibits communist tendencies... giving free money away to the biggest businesses? i thought that in a capitalist society, "the invisible hand" took care of all that? i thought if a business was failing, it was their fault and they had to deal with it? no? i guess that's only small businesses? take from the poor and give to the rich: the story of american "capitalism"

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>>664052647
>>664052786

>>664049280
You know he isn't right?

But first, can u point the differences between soviet communism, eurocommunism and social-democracy, right?

>>664053256
right, tell that to all the countries with higher standards of living/qualities of life than america.

p.s. the word is inherent, you fucking troglodyte
>the inherit differences

nice work, but it's best to finish reading the dictionary entry before trying out your new words

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>>664053433
That is capitalism

The fact support Bernie's position on the economic issues.

The only things the GOP character assassin goon squads have are lies, smears and fallacies.

The people are tired of being manipulated by false right-wing conservative narratives and propaganda.

>>664052647
The same reason the American shithole became what it is: large reserves of oil.
Three years after the oil extraction peaked in the SU, the country was no more.

>>664053433

In a pure free market economy, it'd be different... but that is more like if the country had no central government.

The US has long since been infiltrated by leftist's, socialists and closet commies, hence the bailouts, subsidies and adjusted tax rates.

no one said the US didn't show these tendencies, just that Bernie wants to do more of the same.

>>664053826
if you're a jew, it is

>>664053826
You people are fucking stupid. Ignorant fools who believe whatever your masters tell you, including the asinine beliefe that believing whatever they tell you is 'fighting the system.' You dumb faggots are nothing more than what the Soviets called "useful idiots."

>>664049280
its because the liberals have taken over /b/ ask the under paid mods who make less than mcdonnalds worker its all part of the plan.

>>664054182
but you don't seem to understand the difference between "taking from the poor to give to the rich" and "taking from the rich to give to the poor"

they are not the same.

>>664053833
>The fact support Bernie's position on the economic issues.

Hahahahahahaha!

Which is why he flat refused to say how he would pay for his free everything for everyone pipe dream bullshit. Because "all the facts support him."

Morons.

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This man is the last hope for America

>>664049280
Because the majority of /b/ is full of millennial faggots

>>664054377
what are you talking about? he wants to tax the wealthy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM
watch the video.

the "1%" could be taxed at 90% and they would still be rich enough to do all the shit they do now.

you can not imagine how much money these people have

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The only reason I support Bernie Sanders: he is the only candidate that supports ending weed prohibition, the war on drugs, the penitentiary system, and most importantly Citizens United. I don't agree with his economic ideas, but the president has no power to impact the economy without going to war with the Federal Reserve. Can't have capitalism when your money is worthless and you export all your manufacturing to economic slave satellite countries like Indonesia and Mexico.

Keep being economically illiterate you neoconservative niggers and go Bernie. Let's end lobbying, go back on the gold standard, and actually run America in the image of the founding fathers.

If you disagree you are a brainwashed generation X warhawk nigger who lives in fear of "terrorism."

>>664049280

Bernie is a slimy little goblin. I hate this bastard.

>>664054550
>I'm such old and mature.
faggot.

>>664054462
the very fact that this exists, you people like you are posting shit like this, and people actually think this, is proof irrefutable that there is in fact no hope left for america

>>664054550
who started reading newspapers last year and now they think they "know what's going on"

Ok, so, Bernie will not be nominated, Hillary will.
We do know Trump won't make it. Who will be the Republican candidate?

>>664054462
Complete it

"For America's destruction"

>implying there's a good person that's running
My option is Ben Carson.
He's not as fucking stupid as all the other candidates.

>>664055042
I hope both Trump and Sanders run as independents

>>664055042
Cruz and if that does happen, then we can count on him losing.

>>664054818

I'm simply stating the obvious. The majority of people who want Bernie to be president are those that are considered to be millennial ergo people born from 1986-2000 with most of those people being able to legally browse /b/ faggot

>>664055154
World burns, we get another bush in office.

>>664049280

He will provide free education for dense fuckers like you

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>>664055117
>mfw the most intelligent candidate thinks the pyramids were built by dinosaurs

>>664055505

At the expense of the tax payers? I don't think so.

>>664055505
We can see it's totally necessary

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How about Vermin Supreme? He promises free pony's and a law that requires Americans to brush their teeth!

>>664053726
If you have a life threatening disease, the number one factor in determining whether or not you are going to live is whether or not you live in the US.

Countries with socialized medicine are often plagued by horrible waiting lists. When you have heart disease, you don't have time to wait 6 months to get treated.

While our system isn't perfect, the free market is better because at least there is incentive to not suck.

>>664055599
Uh, I'm not American and I'm unable to tell if you are joking or not. Citation needed.

>>664055610

Taxing wall street's egoistic people

>>664054550
this generation blaming thing is fucking ancient. every older generation always likes to sit back and point out why the younger generation isn't working on a farm like them. go home, farmer boy

>>664055610
So, if not for education, where should the government spend the tax payer's money?

>>664049280
b is full of bernie's supporters because the whole country supports him

only a few paid shills are spamming nonsense about that reality TV star Donna Tramp. whoever she is...

>Coming to 4 chan for politics
You need to be gassed and have your voting rights removed.

>>664055610
at the expense of the super wealthy "1%" who own 40% of the country's wealth.
see
>>664054622

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>>664049280
Comrade!

>>664053433
>it's hard for people who already had money to make it grow
I can think of three different investments right now off the top of my head that would profit, guaranteed. Wealth is finite, my friend. It's easier to collect money if you have money.

>>664055896
ON TEH MILITARYY KILLING TEH INFIDELS HURRR

>>664056376
Go grow your money then, why are you here wasting our time?

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loring wirbel your going to jail
bye bye you giant ass faggot mark zukkerberg
Hillary your going to jail
oboma you are fired, and banished

CANT STUMP THE TRUMP 2016

>>664056505
ofc!

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>>664054622
90% is an absurd tax rate.

If you think rich people are going to stand for that, you're fooling yourself. A couple years ago, France tried to tax them at 75 and they all just left the country. Not to mention the fact that rich people are already really good at keeping their money away from Uncle Sam. They got offshore bank accounts, stock portfolios, liquid assets, ect. Even then they are still paying a huge bulk of the taxes. And yet liberals say they don't pay their fair share.

It's really easy to tell other people that they need to pay more.

>>664054640
DUDE
WEED
LMAO

>>664049280
thats the point

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>>664055061
>Civil war when?

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>>664053256
Yeah, going bankrupt to stay alive is awesome.

P.s. Bernie has my vote. Stay mad.

>>664056671
topkek

>>664050140
"Go an here for being so ignorant on a public forum" LMFAO YOU'RE IGNORANT JUST LIKE THE REST OF US BITCH

>>664050248
really thoooouuuugggghhhhh

>>664049280
Iи sюviэт яussiд сдя dгivэs уфu

>>664055201
Why? Conservatives love the guy. He's pretty smart and a great debater. Not the charismatic guy the world, but he would do well against Hillary.

Hilldog has so many skeletons in her closet that she cannot possibly win the White House. She'll get the namination and that's it.

>>664050256
No she's not.

>>664055867
>Bernie
>I'll tax the old white fuckers with money
OKAY

>>664049280
pol/ is leaking again

>>664050485
Yeah we would... but we would be fucked if our ENTIRE SOCIOECONOMIC SYSTEM WAS FUCKING SOCIALIST. We need a balance motherfucker, yin and fuckin yang.

>>664055117
He makes stuff up too much.

>>664056535
Money is stupid. My parents have some. I hold them emotionally hostage according to them. They pay for my guns and drugs. Society is stupid. It's just survival of the most ruthless. I'd say I'm winning, regardless of my intent.

>>664054252
Lenin only called us humans, according to Lenin, socialism was in the Soviet Union over

>>664056815
yeah, when?

>>664056627
in Scandinavia, the rich are taxed at about 70-80%, and they're still rich, and they haven't left the country.

it's been like that for decades, and Scandinavia is amongst the best functioning countries in the world, even despite the sandniggers.

Go and look at which nations top all the UN tables of good things, they're all socialist.

>>664051372
Dis

>>664050783
Where the fuck have you and your ancestors been for the past 8 millenia. Capitalism is the closest economic system to natures survival of the fittest. You ever see a lion taking the life of a gazelle for personal gain? duh, capitalism, too bad you can't make a money because you fuckin suck.

It's always some poor motherfucker talkin about equality and shiet. just shut the fuck up you dumb, broke bastard.

>>664055823
That's not true in Canada, Norway, Japan, Russia, Switzerland, France of Germany.

You're probably thinking of Ethiopia.

http://getbetterhealth.com/wait-times-for-medical-care-how-the-us-actually-measures-up/2010.02.02

>>664049280
It's not. A bunch of reddit retards hang out for a half hour, scream insults and hate people that don't agree with them.
You can tell because they always have the same shite sources and graphs with no reference.

>>664055823
>While our system isn't perfect, the free market is better because at least there is incentive to not suck.


It's only because of our "free market" that health care prices are 2x and 3x what is it everywhere else in the world.

>>664050601
/thread

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>>664057609
Neo-Civil War thread?
>millennials will be conscripted
>conscripts use tried and true "human wave" tactics
I have some ideas to solve some minor social issues at the same time.
Two birds, one stone and all that

>>664057796
>survival of the most specialized
Ftfy

>>664050153
You guys know if he was elected as the president of the US and tried to impose communism on the world, that's pretty fucking bad news because he could actually succeed

>>664054640
Ending the drug war is the only important thing to me. Always will be.

>>664049280

look at his poll numbers, he has literally no chance. nothing to worry about here.

you guys really think hillary, with all her money and power, will let this loser come close?

>>664057725
"It's been like that for decades" There ya go bitch. Decades motherfucker, decades after a world war which changed everything. "Oh lets just turn america which has been capitalistic since it's dawn on the history of mankind 200 sometin years ago, into a socialist democratic republic. Big question...WHERE THE FUCK IS THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM TO PAY FOR ALL OF THESE FUCKING PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE THAT SCANDINAVIA DOESN'T.

>>664058359
>Bernie doesn't do what's best for Bernie
People who vote for him are claiming that the rest of the government can keep him in check. I'm not sure.

>>664052647
Lol
>in europe
>getamap.jpg

>>664057796
>it's natural
>puts on clothes because cold

we're human, not animals, you endless fool.

>>664056376
what the fuck are you talking about? your reply has literally nothing to do with my post

>>664057978
No that's your fault dumbass, you payed for that shit right?

Not all that crazy about Sanders. But if it's Sanders vs Trump. I'll go with Sanders in a heartbeat.

>>664056376
No you don't.

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>>664056815
>>664057609
>>664058089
I have no file folders on my tablet.
>Organization is for faggots
I'm putting my money on <5 years. Literally. That's when most of my stockpile expires, anyways

>>664058640
That's fucking scary, playing with fire

>>664058637
>things only work if they'd been around for ages
>how did things start working in the first place durr

if it works in Europe, why the fuck shouldn't it work in USA? You guys too dumb, eh?

>WHERE THE FUCK IS THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM TO PAY FOR ALL OF THESE FUCKING PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE THAT SCANDINAVIA DOESN'T.
from all the fucking people paying taxes that America have, that Scandinavia doesn't. You have rich people, right? Tax them, like Scandinavia does.

>>664050153
I read the whole thing. So what? Can Americans just step back and say they're not the best at everything and recognise even communist ideas, not necessarily full blown communist government, has some merit.
Find the middle ground.

>>664055896

On more important things like the maintenance of roads and bridges or more protection for America's borders. Education should be left to the private sector, or at least to the individual state. The federal government should have no involvement with education at all.

>>664055875
I'm not blaming anybody for anything. I'm simply stating a fact and that fact is the majority of /b/ is filled with millennials who were born between 1986-2000. Ergo, most of those people can browse /b/ of the legal age making the average user a millennial which explains why the majority wants Bernie to be president.

>>664058768
If you didn't get it, don't worry about it.
>>664059088
Yeah, I do.
More than that, if I think about it a little bit.
Don't feel the need to prove it, though.

We'll always need more piping for sewers as long as we're growing as a population
Go put some extra cash into a mutual fund, THEN KEEP DOING IT
Anything BTC, really, if you have extra time and a ton of cash

There, I proved it

>>664059410

Sadly providing education is more a bussiness than a contribution

>>664059162
All of our rich people moved their address out of country because of our attempt to make a socialist republic by raising taxes and giving money to uneducated americans. great idea huh? yeah we've already tried really fucking hard to be like europe and it's done nothing but put us in debt. We gave bailouts and everything, government controlled distribution of wealth...and now look at us. All of our small businesses are eating shit because they can't hire employees without paying for subsidies out the ass and managing a business under heightened taxes meant for billionaires.

>>664059267
>Can Americans just step back and say they're not the best at everything and recognise even communist ideas, not necessarily full blown communist government, has some merit. Find the middle ground.

The Fox "news" watching, right wing conservatives who wolf down the lies and propaganda will never concede an inchon their willful ignorance.

Just ask them about Obama's birth certificate.

>>664059743
I could post a fucking ad on craigslist to make me money for an ad by google. and keep capitalizing on that.

>>664059410
Couldn't the roads be sold to some private operators for some years and then it comes back to public dominion?

Of course not the borders per se but most of the apparatus.
The federal government should give bigger funds to the colleges and universities.

>>664059162
>>664059162
All of our rich people moved their address out of country because of our attempt to make a socialist republic by raising taxes and giving money to uneducated americans. great idea huh? yeah we've already tried really fucking hard to be like europe and it's done nothing but put us in debt. We gave bailouts and everything, government controlled distribution of wealth...and now look at us. All of our small businesses are eating shit because they can't hire employees without paying for subsidies out the ass and managing a business under heightened taxes meant for billionaires.

Our current government setup is doing just that op.

>>664060059

No, it shouldn't. The federal government should do what it originally did when it was founded to do which is maintain border security and road stabillity. The colleges and universities should support themselves, and if they can't, a new university will take its place.

>>664059104
Protip: multi-gas respirator cartridges with the pink thing, 60926
You can then use your respirator for painting, and just about everything except sandblasting.

>>664049280
>Why is /b/ so full of Berniefags?
Because of all the candidates, he promises the most free stuff for societal leaches who do nothing but sit in their parents' basement jacking off to bananas and animal abuse on /b/. He wouldn't win, and if he did, he couldn't deliver, but there's a tard in /b/tard for a reason.

>>664059798
The whole system would go nuts. Each private company would do it one way, with its own interests. It would be terrible.

What's happening is Businesses are actually proposing these "socialist" political and economic ideas through lobbying in order to capitalize on their inefficiencies.

>>664060022
See? Money is dumb. There's no challenge.

>>664060503
What about acting overseas? If the borders are so important, why not closing it fully and getting out of the overseas bases?

>>664060503
YES!

>>664060856
People want our protection. We can make them pay for it like trump proposed. Also...we like to trade and make money.

>>664060503
>>664060962
This is what countries like Afghanistan used to do. This doesn't work in today's society. Too many facets nowadays

>>664060856
The borders are important because it allows America to be secure, and a more secure border means less illegal immigrants defecting to my country. America should not and will not become a reclusive country like Japan was. Also, trade brings American commerce which is what drives any economy.

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>>664057825
Wait times are among the biggest complaints in countries with socialized medicine. To say that American hospitals aren't more efficient is a blatant falsehood.

I don't know where that article is getting it's numbers from. The link in the article went to some political advocacy group.

>>664059804
>All of our rich people moved their address out of country because of our attempt to make a socialist republic by raising taxes and giving money to uneducated americans.

That can;t be true. American college student owe $1.4 trillion in student loans.

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>>664056857

Is this your first post?

Because the Burnstein Bear always rolls Quints. Check em nignogs

>>664061625
did he dieded?

>>664060087
Yes because if every rich person leaves america we just dry up like a raisin. 1) every company that can afford to leave america already has. 2) even if more do leave america then that vacuum will be filled with new companies because this is where the consumers are (even more consumers when we raise the min wage to 15$) every time a dem is in office the economy does well, ever time the min wage is raised the economy does well, every time the rich are taxed the economy does well. deal with it.

>>664061302

All other things will be done by the individual state in the American union. This gives more freedom to the state and severely restricts the federal governments ability to control things.

>>664057978
That has a little bit more to do with regulations than anything.

Even then, however, you're still seeing a lot of low cost medical practitioners popping up all over the place.

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>>664050601

You just said that ISIS are not brainwashed idiots. Do you se the problem in your way of thinking?

>doesn't understand own hypocrisy

k

>>664049280
You silly narrow minded americans, Bernie's mild socialism does not even compare to the socialisms in europe, especially scandinavia. Bernie will be good for USA, he is certainly more sensible than hillary or fucking trump. Your distribution of wealth is so insanely askew. A strong middle class will bring your economy up to speed with china.

>>664057725
Sweden has a fairly high emigration rate. To say people aren't leaving is just not true.

While Sweden does tax the shit out of people, they also keep regulations far lower than what you see in the US which leads to a more business friendly environment. It's understandable why some business owners want to stay.

>>664062276
This, bernie is moderate

>>664050099
I don't know. Ask bernie

Too bad Hillary obliterated Bernie in the debate last night. It is over.

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>centre-right wing instead of extreme right
>"commies!!1"

never change 'murrica

>>664054182
id love to beat your face.

yep the bailouts were done because of the communist tendencies of the US, not because of bribe and clientelism.

>>664061438
>Wait times are among the biggest complaints in countries with socialized medicine.

That's because they can't bitch about how much it costs, dumbass.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8s-UZkpYCQ

>>664056955
Denying it doesn't make it false. I don't really like her all that much either, but giant douche beats turd sandwich

>ITT:
People who think that the candidate's will actually do what they say they're going to do instead of netflix and chill like they're going to do

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The ultra-psychotic paid bernie shills are out in force today. This thread is gold.

>>664051823

Don't you realize that a scientist makes less money than a pop singer like idk Nicky Minaj? In this ugly world people who does not deserve money has it more than they need.

There is people who works honestly many hours in tragical conditions, and is still poor. How can WE let this happen?

Our current economical system is failing and there is the need to restablish it, for the well being of every worthy person.

I'm not saying we need comunism, but capitalism has already failed.

It's hard to believe that 75 years after Joseph McCarthy that America still has all these ignorant, gullible right-wingers.

>>664063879
Nikki* cmon man

Because of this:

https://youtu.be/dARJJxMjqwc

Bernie is not a "Democratic socialist". He is a full blown communist. It's a fact.

http://nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-be-fooled-by-bernie-sanders-hes-a-diehard-communist/

>>664063932
and now the ex president's wife is going to be president because the democrats love staring at her face that looks like a cluster of cunts. god i hate this country

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>>664049280
Do you really believe this, OP? Are you just trolling?

Honestly, if you think your post is true, you're so fucking stupid and/or so fucking misinformed, that there's no fucking hope for you.

>>664051284
save the us from what?

>>664061115
yeah, u sure do

>>664064251
Thats a conservative website. What do you think they were going to say?

>>664051190
THIS

>>664050783

Completely untrue. If I go out and plant a bunch of corn seeds, for example, and spend my time and energy cultivating those seeds as the sun and water help them grow into food, then I sell that food for money, I haven't created new wealth? Something of value wasn't created?

This idea of zero-sum wealth is complete bullshit. People create wealth simply through coming up with new ideas all the time.

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>>664049567
being this retarded on a social media site. pic related

>>664064251
lol what the fuck
I'm a communist, he's a faggot
nigga please at least try

>>664064592
Take a close look at this pic, OP. It's Denmark, the most socialist country in Europe, and also (not coincidentally) #1 on the list of best countries to live in on the human development index, also ranked #1 happiest country on the planet.

Yes, and that's what that damned Commie Bernie Sanders wants to move us towards. HOW DARE HE?

>>664061346
So if it's important for those purpose only, it doesn't have to be public on the entire way.
Or it's not a thing to trust to the private sector?
And why wouldn't it fit education as well? Isn't education that important?
It could be used to teach children never to commit such mistakes again, as US did

>>664064744

Don't try to ignore facts just because a lib rag didn't tell you about it. Bernie Sanders hung a soviet flag in his office! Supported communist revolution in South America. Wanted to nationalize all banks and energy companies! lol full blown communist...

>>664064941
"commie"

>>664064251
Good website choice. They call people idiots right in the title of their articles so it must be valid and reports good news right?

http://nypost.com/2015/08/27/these-self-important-youtube-idiots-are-destroying-culture/

>>664064849
>4chan
>social media
You're in the wrong neighbourhood friend

>>664051190
>>664064251

That's because the value is not in the labor itself, it's in the idea. Who added more value to Apple, Steve Jobs or 50 random workers in China putting together iPhones?

>>664064744
>What do you think they were going to say?
I know facts hurt your feeble mind. Sorry it wasn't an editorial passed off as factual news like msnbc or politico.

>>664065054
>>664065145
Thought someone else said to leave enough coolaid for the rest of us?

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>>664049280
pfff

like that even possible.
Imagine if us was like ussr with free healthcare and education. For americunts everything is business, noone gives a shit about one another

>>664065034

That is simply limiting the federal government's interaction. If the state wishes to fund education with the tax payer's money, then it can do so.

>>664049280
a lot better then a trump shit hole.

>>664064251

lal lel lul lzzlezz I guess you even rely on "the onion" aswell right?

>>664064941

Actually Denmark is #11 in the world on the economic freedom index. Claiming that they are an example of socialism is just false. They have been doing well because they have no need for a real military, have a homogeneous society full of mostly people willing to contribute, and a very free economy. The opposite of what the left wants for America.

http://www.heritage.org/index/country/denmark

>>664065248
>>Opinionated article
>>Facts
good one

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ITT: a bunch of faggots to scared to bring their ridiculous political views to >>>/pol/ where it belongs and get their shit pushed in.

>>664064654
the brown parasitic hordes

>>664064941

American anti-socialism propaganda from the 50's still taking effect on dumbasses like the OP.

>>664065419
Not really, no

>>664065564
>economic freedom index
LAWL. "Economic freedom" more important than happiness and human development? Yeah, typical right-wing thought process.

There should be at least one capitalist country in the world for diversities sake

>>664065748
wow you sure are conspiranoid
good luck fighting the niggaz and the reptilians bro

>>664065649
another 'genius' who doesn't know how to read.
>b-b-b-but jon stweart told me fox news is bad

tho late for ib4ing...

>inb4 right-wing brainshed fucks saying trump is the chosen one

>>664049567
Oh shit, I guess I better get my passport then and emigrate

>>664049280
Are you one of the people that thought that Kenyan Muslim Obama was going to implement sharia law, take your guns and throw you in a fema camp?

>>664051190

You there, stop making sense, get out of this thread and off /b/

>>664053833
>The people are tired of being manipulated by false right-wing conservative narratives and propaganda.

lol, you spelled "facts" wrong

>>664050153
>links to nypost
>makes dumb comment about Bernie "shills"

Great job asshole.

>>664065564
and #12 is the USA, which is a very different country.
Denmark's success is not due to economic freedom, it's about public services.

>>664065663

Bring them here then, you faggot

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>>664065967

>>664065967
Look up Fox vs jane akre. They can legally lie about the news

>>664050601
Yeah definitely, watch this and tell me you still believe that http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-34592186

>>664065962
Yeah, no you're right, we don't have a problem with 30+ million illegals in the US. It's all made up.

>>664066228
>Great job asshole.
Fantastic retort dipshit

>>664049280
Oh, you delusional idiot. I suppose you think Trump will help you become a millionaire, duh?

>>664066114
>implying he's not trying to do all of those things

>>664066299
>Pretending Fox is any better/worse than other news outlets

the comment
>b-b-b-b-but jon stewart told me so!
is so right. People who get their news from comedy shows...

>>664066374
they go to your country and they work in your country to make a living
probably more than you'll ever work in your whole life you fucking neet

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>>664049280

>>664065564
>The opposite of what the left wants for America.

You mean the opposite of what the right CLAIMS the left wants.

It's historically impossible for conservative extremists to accurate characterize leftist politics without false narratives and hyperbole.

>>664066399
Nobody believes Trump will help them be millionaires. That's what poorfags believe about Sanders.

>being that dense and uninformed

>>664066729
some day...

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>>664066583
You sure like to imply subject matters. Bet you are quite the conversationalist and win every argument you make Mr Pidgeon

>>664066216
>lol, you spelled "facts" wrong

The ideology is wrong because of a typo? Did you graduate grade school?

>>664066654
>they go to your country and they work in your country

illegally

>>664049280
social democracy != communism

get an education

>>664067004
It's called a last resort anon. How else will they think they are victorious

>>664067004
wow - you really are that incredibly stupid....

>>664067114
and how does that hurt you?

>>664067215
you meant to put =/= right?

>>664066831
Exactly.

Millionaires have run this country since the 1800's. Providing jobs and re-investments for future projects and even more jobs. These fucking little kids think this is something new because this is their first election.

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The only legitimate choice.

>>664067104
He has to bow down to the niggers. He's depending on the gibme dat vote.

>>664049280
Do you feel it? I think you're feeling it.

>>664067309
my taxes get raised to fill the holes they dig in sidewalks to take shits

>>664067309
You're far to ignorant to bother arguing with.

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>>664058663
You seriously fucking implying that Russia isn't a part of Europe?

>>664067414
I'd love to see this happen
he's so eloquent and rational

>>664067414
They guy who wants to carpet bomb everyone? Well he doesn't even know what the Geneva convention was. Didn't know you liked duct dynasty either

>>664049280
Hillary wins democratic electorate because money.

Bernie decides to say fuck you guys and run as an independent.

He splits the votes enough to sneak in the vote for Trump.

Trump wins the candidacy.

>>664049280
Feel the Bern US

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>>664067665
yes sir

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>>664051823
>hurrr durr a doctor gets equal pay to a macdonalds employee hurr
>hurr i cant understand working to your fullest potential and taking according to need
>im a goddamn retard
this is what you sound like

>>664049280
For starters Bernie Sanders support amounts to online faggots blowing smoke up their own asses. Saying things like "Bernies gonna win" be side they think if they say it enough it's going to be true. They're spreading that faggot tier mentality to every single social media sight with a pulse.

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>>664049280
I dont really care. Maybe then the economy will truly collapse. We can recall our military from its misadventures, return to isolationism, and start fresh. The federal government, like /b/, was never good, and is now full of cancer.

>>664067414
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/phil-robertson-duck-dynasty-ted-cruz-endorse-217721
This is hilariously sad

>>664066097
See ya!

>>664053130
go back to /pol/

>>664053256
kek
>not knowing communism is a governmentless society

>>664049280
Its just 4 or 5 children Samefagging

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>>664051372
It stops right here.

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>>664067417

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>>664050153
NY Post??
Known rightist yellow journalism.
Who cares what they think? ??

>>664056207
Comrade! Destroy capitalism, topple the bourgoisie and build the dictatorship of the proletariat!

>>664050485
>That includes the fire department, police, airports, harbors, CDC in Atlanta, FTC, SEC, etc.
Most of those things existed well before socialism was ever conceptualized. It has always been the job of the local government to: Police, put out fires, manage ports, manage disease. Disease management has moved to federal levels, which is probably one of the few good things for the feds to control. Countries have always managed their own trade, with taxes and tariffs etc., to shape commerce to their needs. None of this is socialism. It is every single form of government that has ever existed.

Like you said, "socialism is the public ownership of capital and the means of production." This is the important part. Public ownership of production and capital. Meaning, no more private ownership, and no more corporations. That is fucking insane. The most communist country in existence, China, isn't even that socialist. They allow private companies, because socialism has never, and will never, work on a large scale.

TL;DR: Government != socialism. Socialism is the abolition of private ownership. Fuck socialism, and fuck you.

>>664067493
your taxes get raised to fill holes in sidewalks?
are you sure it has nothing to do with having the biggest millitary spending in the whole world?
are you sure it has nothing to do with having the world's highest incarceration rate? your country is fucking draconian

>>664066881
Stay in solidarity

>>664049280
>doesnt realize school roads electricity are all Socialist services.
It like you like living in an oligarchy.

>>664068679
nonsensical deflection

Elections are always about picking the lesser of two evils. Bernie is a lesser evil than Trump.

>>664067359
same thing

>>664051190
>Labor produces 90% of the wealth
Bullshit. Labor constructs the products that smarter people design. Labor is a human-powered factory. Without smarter people to design products, labor wouldn't be producing shit.

>>664067414
>The only legitimate choice.

Is Cruz still a Canadian citizen?

>>664068679
That's what they say to try to sell tax increases to the public, anyway

>>664067607
>>664068030
He's miles ahead of Trump, and there's no way my vote will be wasted on a Democrat. Never seen DD before lul

>>664069094
Never was, can you prove otherwise?

(Legit curious)

>>664049280
As if he'd be able to do anything if he got elected. It would be the least productive presidency in a while, but I'd rather have gridlock than be intentionally driven towards the grave by trump or clinton.

>>664058663
>Lol in europe getamap.jpg

Russia covers 11 time zones, so it is in Europe, the Arctic, Asia and the Black Sea all at once

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>>664049280

>>664068901
while I agree with you, most of the people in the US will most likely think Trump is the lesser evil, man.
I'm afraid Trump is gonna win. I'd love to be wrong on this one.

>>664069044
people still buy the crap america makes? You might as well be buying Chinese goods.

>>664069386
trump is god tier

>>664052647
>Then how did the Soviet Union go from being the poorest country in Europe to America's only superpower rival in 50 years?
A power vacuum. Europe was decimated. It's the same exact reason the US rose to power-- the world was a wreck and we jumped in to fill the gap. The Soviet Union functioned on an unsustainable model, just like the US has until recently. The US just happened to last a few decades longer.

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>>664069533
this meme outlived its humor value about a year ago.

>>664069386
Trump may win the Republican nomination, but polls are showing he'll be crushed by Hillary and annihilated by Bernie in the general election. More people are scared of Trump than they are of Hillary, and that's saying some shit.

>>664069133
Dubs of truth!!!

Вечер в хату. На связи Федор из седьмого бэ

>>664069632
Better get used to it - he's going to be president for 8 years

At the end of the day at the rate the world is progressing and the population is increasing everyone simply cannot be rich.

There has to be a baseline for what every citizen deserves for being a part of society.

I believe every citizen deserves free healthcare for obvious reasons.
Deserve free college education because I want a country full of educated people for obvious reasons.
Deserve to eat 3 meals a day, so if mimimum wage doesn't give enough money then food stamps.

Everyone is needed, from publix workers to CEO's in order to make society work.
The construction worker's kids should be able to go to college with no worries just like the construction company ceo's kids do.

If you don't think the poorest people in society deserve these things then please imagine life without them working those jobs. The country would crumble, everything you enjoy from the hard work and money you make would disappear.

There is no country without everyone, give people basic human rights to better themselves and stay healthy.

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>>664069663
who do you think will win the primaries?
Maybe I underestimate the people from the US but last time I checked, they hated anything that differed from liberalism, so I wouldn't bet for Sanders (while I think he's the best candidate).

>>664070129
b-but...bUT!!!! SOCIALISMS!!! my dad at the gasoline factory says mexicans will take his job if we do this!!!

Guys the U.S has been socialist from the end of The Depression. Social Security is a socialist reform. Guys a little bit of socialism with your capitalism isn't that bad it gives everyone a safety net in difficult times

>>664070129
>Deserve free college education because I want a country full of educated people

Blacks get free rides to college all the time. Thanks to lowered standards and useless majors, they come out no smarter than when they went in, if they graduate at all. It lowers the value of a bachelors degree when everyone can get one and it means nothing.

>>664070001
lol I'm done with all you americans
what the fuck, first that nigger and now this fucking idiot.
Seriously, you guys are ridiculous.
Love, Europe

>>664070276
That's not how US primaries work. Primaries are held to determine who a political party will nominate; the vast majority of the time, liberals do not vote in Republican primaries, and conservatives do not vote in Democrat primaries.