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>>662933864 >two rifles >the one with wood is for hunting >the one with plastic is not Its because it's black, isn't it?
I can kill people and deer equally as easily with both. If you're talking about full auto rifles, all that does is waste bullet money by missing a lot or shooting the same guy way more than the minimum required to kill him, which means less ammo to kill other people, which is a good thing.
I'd like to remind you that pistols account for roughly eleven thousand murders, last I heard, while rifles of any kind caused less than four hundred in the same year. I think that was 2011 on the FBI crime statistics, I'm lazy so I won't link you.
Also, I guess we should ban alcohol again, because drunk driving kills way more people every year than all guns combined in the USA, clearly we can handle guns much better than beer.
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Followup- countries with high ownership of military firearms have fewer crimes than the USA if they also have good social cohesion.
Crime statistics seem to be almost entirely related to education level and a sense of "fairness" in society. The Swiss have assault rifles and low crime. The Japanese have nearly zero firearms and low crime. I would bet you dollars to instant ramen that if Japan got guns the suicide rates for men might increase (ease of access, sudden methods preferred) and the occasional otakufag would shoot up his school, but overall crime would hardly change (middle-class income generalized throughout society, high level of education).
>>662936094 I went to a gun show in Louisiana and when I went to buy a gun, I had to fill out a legal form as a back ground check. The people selling guns at gun shows own gun shops, and are licensed to sell guns. They have regulations to follow, too.
In fact, they can't legally sell a gun to you if anything on your ID/driver's license is incorrect or if it is expired. I tried to buy a pistol one time after I had recently moved, and they couldn't sell it to me because my address hadn't yet been updated on my card.
Sometimes if you go to like a basspro and you're trying to buy like a shotgun, they'll get around this by making you buy a fishing or hunting license with the correct address, then check that as a form of ID, but they have to be willing to work with you and won't do it for pistols since it's close to illegal.
AR-15 multiply rounds lightweight removable mag for changing hunting sites rock solid no matter the weather cuz it ain't wood. Lots of scope options for mounting. Semiautomatic for fast follow up on running coyote Etc... Perfect coyote gun or livestock protection for a farm. Now if the ass holes in government will see it and make it legal. I'm good to go 30 rounds a mag perfect for all day hunting.
>>662933864 The picture would have been more accurate if it hadn't resorted to using the word murder. That implies that a gun is for absolutely nothing other than murdering human beings. Murder =/= killing, there's a distinction given to the term.
So stating that a gun is never used nor intended to kill anything at all, human or otherwise, for any reason other than murder just goes to show that the people who argue on that side of the fence can't comprehend a logical debate to begin with and can only appeal to knee-jerk memes and pure emotion to try and get their way.
Chainsaws are also used in ice-sculpting. Axes are also used in fire rescue. Guns are also used in hunting. Dishonest assholes are just dishonest assholes, no surprise.
>>662938455 And the first amendment was written before TV and the internet were things. But the amendments are deliberately written to be general enough to accommodate drastic improvements in technology.
>>662938455 And the right to freedom of speech was written when most of the country was illiterate and public speeches (town criers), letters and the occasional newspaper were the most advanced means of communication.. Now that we live in the internet age perhaps we should rethink that right. I mean we certainly should allow retards like you to spout whatever idiotic crap creeps into their minds.
>>662939232 Not just people. But then again so we're bows and arrows, the first axes were crude weapons, same with knives, spears hammers etc. If someone is an archery enthusiast there is no issue. If someone likes javelin there is no issue. If someone enjoys the art of long sword fighting, or kendo, or fencing there is no problem. But gun? Every one loses their shit.
>>662939510 They were created by very intelligent individuals who founded a very prominent country based ideals, history, and life experience that some random basement dweller on 4chan could never even come close to. So for you or others like you to so flippantly suggest we should just do away with based on the idea that they are "out dated" or created in a time where the people could not have forseen the effects they would have, is quite frankly absurd.
Fundamental concepts generally apply universally. May I remind you as well that many of the fundamental mathematical and scientific theories that allow the internet to exist and our mobile devices were thought created of by people within the same era as those who came up with these rights.
>>662933864 >also hunting >Range shooting >Competition Shooting >Fun >Scaring stupid people >Shitposting on /b/ >bitching on /pol/ >/k/ finally taking enough shit from /pol/ and slaughtering them like the shit stained dogs they are >bait So much more useful than a hammer...
>>662933864 its funny because one guy on a building with a high powered scope on a "hunting rifle" is going to kill just as many if not more people then a guy with a ar-15 or similar "deadly evil" assault rifle.
>>662933864 That is nonsensical for reasons already mentioned, but let me ask you this -- assuming it is true, then what? What would you like to see done with the information?
I am guessing it will be to ban the one at lower right, but to do that you will have to define what characteristics it has that define it as distinct from the one at lower left. Being black and scarier looking seems poor criteria, so don;t use them.
>>662935703 I think anyone who plays DC Sniper would disagree.... Killing an "active shooter" is as easy as pulling a gun out and dropping him, assuming that there is at least one or more OC/CC in the area, and they aren't targeted first or outnumber the aggressor. A sniper has the leisure to kill anyone they want at range and can escape the area to attack another area unmolested by the oink patrol. Of course, this is assuming the person cares to try to go for a high spot on the leaderboard, rather than just going for the killstreak bonuses...
>>662940834 you need to do something with what you bag. Learn how to process the meat yourself or take it some where to get processed. If there's a local charity that takes game then take it there. Im not saying go full redman and use every part of the animal but holy fuck don't assume that leaving a kill where you shot it is going feed some other animal. More than likely it's going to sit there and rot.
And why would you not want to make food out of the game you shot. Shit can be tasty as hell
>>662940865 All you need is a sharp burst in your lung. You panic, you struggle free of your mask to get air because you are in a panic mode. Now you are left with a burst lung and you are alive. THAT is why.
>>662940232 >planes have to land >drones have human operators that are more likely than not in one stationary location >tanks need fuel and ammo >subs can keep going on forever without food or fresh water supply
>forgetting that the number of people that applied for hunting licenses in just one northern state had more people than the standing and reserve armies of the UK and Germany combined. It was wisconsin of all places.
The reason the Japs didn't invade the mainland after Pearl Harbor was because it was suicide without gain, and these were people not afraid of death, made entirely of spite.
Our military can't even win a war against illiterate goat herding sand niggers so poor they still use the fucking barter system, who only have outdated weapons, or weapons STOLEN FROM US AND THE PEOPLE WE ARMED.
Tanks, drones, our navy, our technology, our stratagy, and even our hatred and desire to kill them are all ineffective so far. This has been the longest we have ever been at war in consecutive years. There are 15yo's who never knew a day when we weren't at war with them, shooting our poor high school drop outs that use weapons worth more money than they'll ever see.
I'm better than a sand nigger, and I'm better armed, too. And, I'm not the only one.
>>662941582 If that is your reasoning then you are retarded.
I said if there is no reason except for finding it fun, and you read into that that as long as it isn't fun, anything is alright? What I mean by saying that is that there are legit reasons to kill animals, and fun isn't one of them. But of course /b/ and its usual contrarian ways means that saying anything which aligns with liberal views is instantly stupid because liberal.
>>662938455 >Also, why are you people so keen to the amendments? If they are bad, change them.
This guy raises an interesting point.
I myself am strongly in favor of protecting the individual right to keep and bear arms. But I understand that there are folks who, for various reasons, have anothe opinion -- knowing that was going to0 be the case, the guys who wrote the constitution wrote into foundational law in the US that this right was specifcally recognized.
They also wrote a procedure (two, in fat) for amending the constitution.
My biggest quarrel with the anti-gun movement is that they want to consistently ignore the law (the constitution) by passing laws that they will then expect me to obey.
Why not proceed legally? You don;t like the second amendment Change it.
Yes, the procedure is more difficult than just ignoring the law and letting the government do illegal stuff that you want. But, given the illegal stuff that some other folks might want to get the government to do for them, and what other rights are protected under the constitution, it might be a smarter procedure.
>>662942116 Prior MI here. We actually did war gaming situations on rebellions, revolution, and active insurgency in U.S. and it would be a cluster fuck to say the least. Preppers, mil fag enthusiasts, militia men, and all ground "gun nuts" on average have are significantly more well trained and have better survival skills that most our military. We just don't train frequently enough and standards have been declining for decades (even more so recently). Plus we keep getting tied up with gay rights, trans rights, SHARP crap, and tons of other social-political shit.
Desertion rates in times of internal conflict are generally already high and in the U.S. we predict they would be around 80%.
On top of that our support infrastructure is a mess a heavily relient on civilian upkeep.
Plus foreign enemies like Russia wouldn't hesitate to smuggle trainers and supplies to support insurgents/rebels.
Basically our distrust of the government and our gun nut enthusiasm basically assures the government will never be able to turn against the citizenry without causing the end of the U.S. as a country.
>>662938198 This is the only real answer in the thread. It's intentionally divisive. If the left were serious about guns as a public health issue, they'd move to open up the NICS to private citizens rather than just FFL holders. But they aren't so they won't.
>daily reminder to registered democrats that their party closed ranks and shot down gun control legislation because it came from the republicans.
If it meant that, it would have said "the right of the militia to keep and bear arms..."
It mentions the militia in preface, as a reason they were going to single out this one right for inclusion in the Bill of Rights. But the right exists, independent of the reasons why it is useful to a fledgling republic in a potentially hostile world.
>ITT: leftfags and rightfags are too stupid to form an argument on their own, so they go to facebook and find le funny politix meems from their tumblrina/obese, smelly, gun toting relatives, respectively, and then call it an argument
>>662941969 >>nice try m9 you mean highpoint aka "muh glock forty"
>>662941890 sounded like you would hunt just for the sake of fun without actually harvesting.
carry on candyass
>>662942551 every male over the age of 18 is the militia even if he is not in a organized military force. As a male when you turn 18 you must register with selective services, which is usually done along side with registering to vote. If not, you have 30 days from your 18th b-day to get it done or you face upwards of 50k in fines and federal prison time. women are excluded from selective service registration.
>also implying they are to be kept in an armory >[District of Columbia v. Heller, (2008) the Supreme Court handed down a landmark decision that held the amendment protects an individual right to possess and carry firearms.] >individual rights
This helps the ladies big time since your understanding of 2A leaves women out of the right to bear arms as they cannot be in the militia.
Rightfags: The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home [Ignore the rest]
Leftfags: Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court's opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller's holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. [Ignore the rest]
>>662943533 I know, I have family and friends in the military. I didn't join, but went to the National Guard's YCP in Louisiana after I dropped out of high school myself. I grew up in the woods of Mississippi, shooting since I was 4 years old, but only when an adult directly related to me allowed me to. Started on targets I drew myself with crayons. Just big uneven circles. My first gun was a pellet rifle, but I got a .22 when I was 5 and moved up to small game.
Ever since, I've been using bigger guns to kill bigger, delicious animals. I've lived in the city since I was seven to get into a better school, but I still shoot and hunt. I'll be 22 this month.
A rifle is a fucking rifle. a 7.62 round will kill you just as dead if the rifle is black or brown or pink or whatever.
Most importantly: almost nobody uses big-ass rifles to rob liquor stores or shoot their wives. If you want to murder a bunch of people just walk into your local mega-mart and buy a cheap fucking shotgun.
>>662947488 It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out having to work a bolt, and have all of your fucking rounds pour out when you pull it back isn't more practical than pulling the trigger again.
Because you've never fired any gun or probably never even held one if I really need to explain it. a 500yd shot isn't exactly straight forward.
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