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Do you agree?

The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

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Do you agree?
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>>662933864
I mean guns were literally created to kill people. What are you trying to say here
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>>662933864
Nope
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>>662933864
I hunt with an ar10, so no.
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>>662933864
hunting
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>>662933864
and hunting
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Guns kill black people.. And food.
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>>662934123
That is literally false, back to wikipedia.
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>>662933864
lol how often do people get murdered with wood chippers, not just work accidents?
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>>662933864
Guns are made to kill people, damn Colt, S&W, Springfield ect. Need to sit down with Ford and Chevy and ask how can they get on their level.
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>>662933864
Intermediate-cartridge semi-autos make great predator and pest guns, so no.
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>>662934585
Well, they would just have to allow any moron in the world to own one like they do with cars.
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Op considers war to be murder? What a SJW faggot. Sometime people need killing, that ain't murder.
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>>662933864
>two rifles
>the one with wood is for hunting
>the one with plastic is not
Its because it's black, isn't it?

I can kill people and deer equally as easily with both. If you're talking about full auto rifles, all that does is waste bullet money by missing a lot or shooting the same guy way more than the minimum required to kill him, which means less ammo to kill other people, which is a good thing.

I'd like to remind you that pistols account for roughly eleven thousand murders, last I heard, while rifles of any kind caused less than four hundred in the same year. I think that was 2011 on the FBI crime statistics, I'm lazy so I won't link you.

Also, I guess we should ban alcohol again, because drunk driving kills way more people every year than all guns combined in the USA, clearly we can handle guns much better than beer.
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>>662933864
Fixed for you OP
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>>662933864
You can make music with it. Or at least a beat.
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>>662933864
You can hit people with guns or attach a bayonet and stab them.
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>>662935426
>which means less ammo to kill other people

I have no bait pictures save so I offer you a rune scimmy for only 30k instead
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>>662933864

No. There two guns on your chart are most likely the same, but one looks scary.
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Taking the bait for a second:

Rifles are basically the same, they just loo different.

Almost all firearm murders in the USA are with pistols, a few are with rifles, almost NONE are with military rifles. Same for armed robberies.
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>>662935487

*tips snapback*
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>>662933864
AND you're more likely to get shot by the fucking cops than terrorist or kids who couldn't handle a little bullying these days anyway.

Protip: The majority of the time, the cops use pistols, too.

>>662935703
That is acceptable, let me offer b8 as payment.
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>>662935167
They already do, don't they? It's not like there are any checks if you go to a gun show.
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>>662935935
This
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LIBERAL ANTI-HUGH CAPACITY FIREARM RETARD DETECTED

GO GET YOU'RE MARRIED FAGGOT FRIENDS AND PROTEST A CLINIC THAT GETS RID OF BASTARD CHILDREN SO THEY WON'T COST US MORE FUCKING WELFARE MONEY AND GROW UP TO BE A SUCCUBUS OF SOCIETY LIKE THEIR WHORE OF A MOTHER

FUCKING RETARD
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>>662936094
america isn't the world though
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OP is a Faggot
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>>662936094
That's not how it works
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>>662936258
>>662935426
>>662935268
>>662934140
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>>662936350
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>>662933864
It's a hole making machine.
I knew a guy that used a .22 to make furnace because he couldn't use the fucking drill.
He was 65.
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>>662936476
Nice contribution, faggot
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>>662934482
I don't know what is bait and what is not.
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My all-time favorite
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>>662936849

Nigger please
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>>662936849
A must have for any Parkinsons patient.
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>>662936975
Murder train acomin
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>>662936849
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>>662936975
Is that a railgun?
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>>662937222
ba dum tiss
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Followup- countries with high ownership of military firearms have fewer crimes than the USA if they also have good social cohesion.

Crime statistics seem to be almost entirely related to education level and a sense of "fairness" in society. The Swiss have assault rifles and low crime. The Japanese have nearly zero firearms and low crime. I would bet you dollars to instant ramen that if Japan got guns the suicide rates for men might increase (ease of access, sudden methods preferred) and the occasional otakufag would shoot up his school, but overall crime would hardly change (middle-class income generalized throughout society, high level of education).
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>>662937222
Nice pun, anon.
Checked.
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>>662936094
I went to a gun show in Louisiana and when I went to buy a gun, I had to fill out a legal form as a back ground check. The people selling guns at gun shows own gun shops, and are licensed to sell guns. They have regulations to follow, too.

In fact, they can't legally sell a gun to you if anything on your ID/driver's license is incorrect or if it is expired. I tried to buy a pistol one time after I had recently moved, and they couldn't sell it to me because my address hadn't yet been updated on my card.

Sometimes if you go to like a basspro and you're trying to buy like a shotgun, they'll get around this by making you buy a fishing or hunting license with the correct address, then check that as a form of ID, but they have to be willing to work with you and won't do it for pistols since it's close to illegal.

You probably have to be white for that, though.
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>>662937222
ayyy
dem trips
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>>662937070
Has any of this happened you huge faggot?
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>>662933864
The assault rifle could be used for hunting too.
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>>662933864
The is no difference other than pure aesthetics between the firearm on the bottom left and the one on the bottom right.

Kill yourself
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>>662937357
But anon, you can't just debunk most europoors claims like that
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>>662934559

>goes to school
>sits in class
>psycho breaks open the door
>wielding a fuckin' wood chipper
>whatdo.jpg
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>>662933864
The only thing on there that is a common murder weapon is the knife
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>>662937511
With the executive order he announced, yes, this could happen. Only takes a complaint for the police to take your firearms. No evidence needed. Guilty until proven innocent.
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>>662937648

Making stricter gun laws will make it harder for people in general to find mags.

Your argument implies too much.
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>>662937829
throw the desks into it
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>>662937984
>Wishful liberal thinking
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Most important and overlooked fact of the "guns"# controversy;

this is NOT an issue of
"Right wing - love mah guns! lieburals are soft on crime"
"Left wing - scary AR-15s are killing our children! only meth-addict rednecks want guns!"

the issue ITSELF is deliberately used to divide the country. It's literally "Ford vs Chevy" bullshit.

There is NO reason your views on guns should have any correlation to your views on : Taxes, abortion, religion, foreign policy...etc, etc.

Stop playing the partisan game.
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>>662937840
People are killed with hammers, and women tend to use poison for their murders
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>>662937984
>live in MD where you can't but mags that hold more than 10 rds
>Drive 30 min up to PA and buy mags

wow is fucking nothing.
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>>662937511
>>662937984
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I use an m16 for fishing though
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>>662936350
Yeah but the second amendment was written before shells and pointed bullets were even a thing.

Also, why are you people so keen to the amendments? If they are bad, change them.
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>>662933864
I actually hunt with my AR as well, so your argument is invalid.
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>>662938067
M1a1 similar to the 1 I have but darker stock on mine
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AR-15 multiply rounds lightweight removable mag for changing hunting sites rock solid no matter the weather cuz it ain't wood. Lots of scope options for mounting. Semiautomatic for fast follow up on running coyote Etc...
Perfect coyote gun or livestock protection for a farm. Now if the ass holes in government will see it and make it legal. I'm good to go 30 rounds a mag perfect for all day hunting.
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>>662935487
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>>662938067

had me giggle
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>>662933864
the XM16E4 is why your ass isn't speaking russian right now pussy.
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>>662933864
The picture would have been more accurate if it hadn't resorted to using the word murder. That implies that a gun is for absolutely nothing other than murdering human beings. Murder =/= killing, there's a distinction given to the term.

So stating that a gun is never used nor intended to kill anything at all, human or otherwise, for any reason other than murder just goes to show that the people who argue on that side of the fence can't comprehend a logical debate to begin with and can only appeal to knee-jerk memes and pure emotion to try and get their way.

Chainsaws are also used in ice-sculpting. Axes are also used in fire rescue. Guns are also used in hunting. Dishonest assholes are just dishonest assholes, no surprise.
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>>662936258
*your
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>>662938450
You can the pressure blast in the water when the bullet hits it would kill the fish. That's why the saying goes easy as shooting fish in a barrel, 1 shot they all die
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>>662937941

sauce?
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>>662938455
And the first amendment was written before TV and the internet were things. But the amendments are deliberately written to be general enough to accommodate drastic improvements in technology.
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>>662936682
Expiration: fall of the USA
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>>662933864

Last is to kill nigger
This makes Murica great again!
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>>662938455
History shows that machine gun type weapons were already being developed as early as the 1700s, and the founding fathers were mostly likely aware of that, so your argument is invalid
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>>662936426
Well done anon. You just turned this into a cringe thread.
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>>662938455
And the right to freedom of speech was written when most of the country was illiterate and public speeches (town criers), letters and the occasional newspaper were the most advanced means of communication.. Now that we live in the internet age perhaps we should rethink that right. I mean we certainly should allow retards like you to spout whatever idiotic crap creeps into their minds.
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>>662934482
Hahahahahaha are you seriously saying guns weren't created to kill people. If this isn't bait you need to an hero.
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>>662939121
What is cringe about it?
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>>662934559
are you a midget by any chance?
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>>662934219
>>662934285

hunting = murder
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>>662939232
Previous statement >>662934585
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>>662939026
>>662939099
>>662939164
Ok, now what about the second point? What makes the amedments so holy?
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>>662933864
If you dont agree than dont defend yourself, simple.
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>>662936682
The second amendment was signed July 4, 1781
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>>662939415
lol
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>>662939415
What about pest control? Is that murder too?
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>>662939232
Not just people. But then again so we're bows and arrows, the first axes were crude weapons, same with knives, spears hammers etc. If someone is an archery enthusiast there is no issue. If someone likes javelin there is no issue. If someone enjoys the art of long sword fighting, or kendo, or fencing there is no problem. But gun? Every one loses their shit.
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Sometimes shooting at people is legal and moral.
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>>662939510
Because they're the law. If you don't respect the rule of law, that's a different conversation.
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>>662937222
nice
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>>662936322
But isn't it really
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>>662933864
>hunting
hunting people.
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They (being the liberals) cry about all the gun deaths when in reality a large portion of those are self inflicted i.e. suicides. What about the 56 million killed since Roe vs. Wade?
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>>662936350
>>662936527
>muh amendment
>I need muh guns to stop muh tyranny govment
>muh rifle gonna stop govment drones, tanks, jets and nuclear subs
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>>662939415
Hunting without a reason is murder. Hunting for food, population control etc. isn't murder, but hunting for fun, is murder.
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>>662940261
Agreed
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>>662939510
They were created by very intelligent individuals who founded a very prominent country based ideals, history, and life experience that some random basement dweller on 4chan could never even come close to. So for you or others like you to so flippantly suggest we should just do away with based on the idea that they are "out dated" or created in a time where the people could not have forseen the effects they would have, is quite frankly absurd.

Fundamental concepts generally apply universally. May I remind you as well that many of the fundamental mathematical and scientific theories that allow the internet to exist and our mobile devices were thought created of by people within the same era as those who came up with these rights.

Don't be so quick to judge out of ignorance.
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>>662940232
Here you go
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>>662940232
It's not about winning, its about putting up a fight.
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>>662939563
The Second Amendment was adopted on December 15, 1791, as part of the first ten amendments contained in the Bill of Rights.
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>>662940183

56 million unwanted parasites growing inside people? nbd
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>>662933864
>also hunting
>Range shooting
>Competition Shooting
>Fun
>Scaring stupid people
>Shitposting on /b/
>bitching on /pol/
>/k/ finally taking enough shit from /pol/ and slaughtering them like the shit stained dogs they are
>bait
So much more useful than a hammer...
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>>662933864
its funny because one guy on a building with a high powered scope on a "hunting rifle" is going to kill just as many if not more people then a guy with a ar-15 or similar "deadly evil" assault rifle.
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>>662939415
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>>662940232
All controlled by people who die just as easily.
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>>662940261
But hunting is inherently satisfying and can be fun. What's wrong with you?
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>>662933864

When them Ayy Lmao son of bitches invade you'll want guns.
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>>662940588
why would you be worried about burst lung if you're suiciding?
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>>662938198
stop making sense
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>>662940865
Cause pain sucks and people are pussies.
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>>662940865
Because it's supposed to be painless you dummy
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>>662940865

>Painless, Fast Suicide

^The title

A burst lung is painful, I would imagine
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>>662933864
That is nonsensical for reasons already mentioned, but let me ask you this -- assuming it is true, then what? What would you like to see done with the information?

I am guessing it will be to ban the one at lower right, but to do that you will have to define what characteristics it has that define it as distinct from the one at lower left. Being black and scarier looking seems poor criteria, so don;t use them.
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>>662938335
malpractice numbers are as bullshit as the gun death ones though. people sue for malpractice when their 89 year old granny dies in the hospital, expecting some huge payout.
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>>662940834
For me, my personal fun doesn't win over an animals life. I am not against killing animals, but if there is no reason to kill one except for you finding it fun, then you are a cunt.
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>>662940686
>So much more useful than a hammer...

Plus, technically. you can use it to drive in a nail.
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Go back in Hillary Clintons vagina liberal Bernie Sanders has been dead for like 7 minutes he forgot to change his colostomy bag
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>>662933864
>common murder weapons
>dynamite
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>>662941180
Never did I agree with it just to show that people get killed by hammers did you read previous statement?>>662937840
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>>662939675
this tbh etc
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>>662941180

idk the sauce on those numbers, but I'm pretty sure filing a frivolous lawsuit doesn't get the death counted as caused by med mal
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>>662941239
>kills deer
>don't smile or hi five bc of some twisted liberal ideology

could your reasoning be applied to killing jews? as long as pretend not to enjoy it it's ok>?
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>>662935703
I think anyone who plays DC Sniper would disagree....
Killing an "active shooter" is as easy as pulling a gun out and dropping him, assuming that there is at least one or more OC/CC in the area, and they aren't targeted first or outnumber the aggressor.
A sniper has the leisure to kill anyone they want at range and can escape the area to attack another area unmolested by the oink patrol. Of course, this is assuming the person cares to try to go for a high spot on the leaderboard, rather than just going for the killstreak bonuses...
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>>662938684
My childhood pet (a cat) was eaten by a fucking coyote

Kill them all Anon
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>>662940232
Implying the government is going to use WMDs against it's own citizens and kill civilians along with rebels.
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>>662940834
you need to do something with what you bag. Learn how to process the meat yourself or take it some where to get processed. If there's a local charity that takes game then take it there. Im not saying go full redman and use every part of the animal but holy fuck don't assume that leaving a kill where you shot it is going feed some other animal. More than likely it's going to sit there and rot.

And why would you not want to make food out of the game you shot. Shit can be tasty as hell
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>>662935935
>Almost all firearm murders in the USA are with pistols

Yet the laft has almost completely abandoned their once strident insistence that we need to ban hnadguns. When you understand WHY, you will know all you need to know about the left.

PROTIP: Who uses handguns to commit crimes and thus would be most inconvenienced by such a ban? Who is the most loyal and important block of votes for the left?
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>>662941717
This.
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>>662940865
All you need is a sharp burst in your lung. You panic, you struggle free of your mask to get air because you are in a panic mode. Now you are left with a burst lung and you are alive. THAT is why.
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>>662941753
didn't say I wasn't going to eat it fuckbag
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>>662936322
True, it is now more the other way around.
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>ar-15
>common murder weapon
>nice try m9
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>>662936426
It is about need... I mean, unless the military and police decided to drastically downgrade their arsenal.
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>>662933864
I agree that OP is a faggot.
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>>662941472
I think they mean explosives in general are common murder weapons and not specifically dynamite.
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>>662940232
>planes have to land
>drones have human operators that are more likely than not in one stationary location
>tanks need fuel and ammo
>subs can keep going on forever without food or fresh water supply

>forgetting that the number of people that applied for hunting licenses in just one northern state had more people than the standing and reserve armies of the UK and Germany combined. It was wisconsin of all places.

The reason the Japs didn't invade the mainland after Pearl Harbor was because it was suicide without gain, and these were people not afraid of death, made entirely of spite.

Our military can't even win a war against illiterate goat herding sand niggers so poor they still use the fucking barter system, who only have outdated weapons, or weapons STOLEN FROM US AND THE PEOPLE WE ARMED.

Tanks, drones, our navy, our technology, our stratagy, and even our hatred and desire to kill them are all ineffective so far. This has been the longest we have ever been at war in consecutive years. There are 15yo's who never knew a day when we weren't at war with them, shooting our poor high school drop outs that use weapons worth more money than they'll ever see.

I'm better than a sand nigger, and I'm better armed, too. And, I'm not the only one.

Come and take them, faggot.
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>>662936849
>not having a bipod for your knife
Do you even knife, bro?
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>>662933864
I dunno man, I saw a lamp once, made out of the same type of gun. Looked pretty neat to me.
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>>662937183
Is this real? That's actually profound.
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>>662941582
If that is your reasoning then you are retarded.

I said if there is no reason except for finding it fun, and you read into that that as long as it isn't fun, anything is alright? What I mean by saying that is that there are legit reasons to kill animals, and fun isn't one of them. But of course /b/ and its usual contrarian ways means that saying anything which aligns with liberal views is instantly stupid because liberal.
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>>662941997
Yeah but this is America, not some nanny-police state like Great Britain
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>>662940232
All those weapons and the us military can't eradicate a bunch of goat fuckers in the desert.
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>>662940641
Kek.
What brand of tin foil do you use anon?
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>>662940759
Get. A. Grip.
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>>662933864
Did you mean: Their intended uses.
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>>662936426
People seem to forget the second amendment protects organized militias rights to arms, also implying they are to be kept in an armory
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>>662940759
Jesus fuck /b/ makes me realise why the rest of the world calls Americans retarded.
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>>662942551
Yeah.....
No.
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>>662941180
Thats irrelevent. Its about how the person died, not how close to death they were before they died.
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>>662939682
>light bolter with mounted chainsword

the imperium would approve
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>>662942551
>>662941997
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>>662936682
>12/15/1791
Wtf? There is a 15th month?
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>>662942682
fuck heretics
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>>662934123
I guess you have never hunted for food, or eaten animals that have been turned into food?
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>>662934559
you'd be surprised. I would imagine the chipper would be better suited for destroying/obfuscating evidence than as an actual weapon of murder.
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>>662942901
You say that like it contradicts what he said. Guns were created to kill people, and now they are also used to hunt animals. Your point was?
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>>662938455
>Also, why are you people so keen to the amendments? If they are bad, change them.

This guy raises an interesting point.

I myself am strongly in favor of protecting the individual right to keep and bear arms. But I understand that there are folks who, for various reasons, have anothe opinion -- knowing that was going to0 be the case, the guys who wrote the constitution wrote into foundational law in the US that this right was specifcally recognized.

They also wrote a procedure (two, in fat) for amending the constitution.

My biggest quarrel with the anti-gun movement is that they want to consistently ignore the law (the constitution) by passing laws that they will then expect me to obey.

Why not proceed legally? You don;t like the second amendment Change it.

Yes, the procedure is more difficult than just ignoring the law and letting the government do illegal stuff that you want. But, given the illegal stuff that some other folks might want to get the government to do for them, and what other rights are protected under the constitution, it might be a smarter procedure.
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>>662943125
>Guns were created to kill people

Which guns do you mean? Mine was created to shoot small bame.

Do you mean invented? Hundreds of years ago? If so, so what? What difference does THAT make?
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>>662933864
no it is for removing the kebab
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>>662942763
In America we have more months than the rest of you peasants.
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>>662942116
Prior MI here. We actually did war gaming situations on rebellions, revolution, and active insurgency in U.S. and it would be a cluster fuck to say the least. Preppers, mil fag enthusiasts, militia men, and all ground "gun nuts" on average have are significantly more well trained and have better survival skills that most our military. We just don't train frequently enough and standards have been declining for decades (even more so recently). Plus we keep getting tied up with gay rights, trans rights, SHARP crap, and tons of other social-political shit.

Desertion rates in times of internal conflict are generally already high and in the U.S. we predict they would be around 80%.

On top of that our support infrastructure is a mess a heavily relient on civilian upkeep.

Plus foreign enemies like Russia wouldn't hesitate to smuggle trainers and supplies to support insurgents/rebels.

Basically our distrust of the government and our gun nut enthusiasm basically assures the government will never be able to turn against the citizenry without causing the end of the U.S. as a country.
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>>662938198
This is the only real answer in the thread. It's intentionally divisive. If the left were serious about guns as a public health issue, they'd move to open up the NICS to private citizens rather than just FFL holders. But they aren't so they won't.

>daily reminder to registered democrats that their party closed ranks and shot down gun control legislation because it came from the republicans.
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>>662933864
Recreational porpouses faggot, target practice self defence, being a total badas
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>>662942491
Get. Educated.
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>>662942551
How the fuck does that have anything to do with an armory. What the fuck?
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>>662942551
No.

If it meant that, it would have said "the right of the militia to keep and bear arms..."

It mentions the militia in preface, as a reason they were going to single out this one right for inclusion in the Bill of Rights. But the right exists, independent of the reasons why it is useful to a fledgling republic in a potentially hostile world.
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>>662942580
See
>>662943533
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>>662940865
Because the point is to go painlessly and peacefully. If you don't care about going painlessly you'd just jump off of a building or french kiss a shotgun.
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no, most of those things are rarely used for murder
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>>662941180
Your position then is that killing people who might be about to die anyway doesn't count?
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>>662941472
Google the biggest mass murder in a school in US history.
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>ITT: leftfags and rightfags are too stupid to form an argument on their own, so they go to facebook and find le funny politix meems from their tumblrina/obese, smelly, gun toting relatives, respectively, and then call it an argument
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>>662943397
Yeh sure, but I wasn't saying anything about that? I just said that what you said is true as well as the guy you replied to? Seems like you want an argument.
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>>662933864
Your "Liberal" is showing... Did the cartoon pic of a gun make you piss yourself or was it not until anon posted real life (gasp) 'murder weapons'.

Move back in with your moms (not a typo) and make room for the Hillary '16 posters in the front yard.
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>>662938067
I always wanted a Model 3. :(
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>>662943553
They would push for safer cars, considering more than half of the "thousands of gun deaths per year" are suicide.
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>>662944017
>I am the smartest in the thread look at meee
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>>662943918
EVERYTHING is rarely used for murder -- statistically, murder is very rare.
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>>662938335
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8
that picture is so accurate
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>>662943741
You're a retard parroting facts shat out by another retard.

That makes you double retarded, anon.
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>>662944028
Sorry, I created confusion -- I am not the guy you have been replying to -- I should have identified myself as a new poster.

So what WAS your point, about guns being created to kill people?
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>>662944017
Your subpar greentexting isn't exactly helping
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>>662934144
An AR-10 fires a .308 which is quite common in hunting most mid size game in north America.
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>>662944258
But not wrong.

Dude, if you are going to get angry when retards post, you really should not be spend9ing time on 4chan.
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>>662936682
Expires if another Dem gets elected... (US posts the date MM/DD/YY)
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>>662933864
>implying that ar-15's can only be used to murder.
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>>662937222
kek
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>>662933864
Mmm yes sure why not?
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>>662944192
>shit, he made an accurate comment about what people are doing in the thread, I better imply that he think's he's smarter than everyone else
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>>662933864
some people hunt with those, because you need 30 shots to kill something that dies in one shot from other rifles
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>>662941969
>>nice try m9
you mean highpoint aka "muh glock forty"

>>662941890
sounded like you would hunt just for the sake of fun without actually harvesting.

carry on candyass

>>662942551
every male over the age of 18 is the militia even if he is not in a organized military force. As a male when you turn 18 you must register with selective services, which is usually done along side with registering to vote. If not, you have 30 days from your 18th b-day to get it done or you face upwards of 50k in fines and federal prison time. women are excluded from selective service registration.

>also implying they are to be kept in an armory
>[District of Columbia v. Heller, (2008) the Supreme Court handed down a landmark decision that held the amendment protects an individual right to possess and carry firearms.]
>individual rights

This helps the ladies big time since your understanding of 2A leaves women out of the right to bear arms as they cannot be in the militia.
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How fags read the Heller decision:

Rightfags: The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home [Ignore the rest]

Leftfags: Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court's opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller's holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. [Ignore the rest]
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>>662944484
ar-15 fires .223 witch many people use for varmint like coyotes, badgers, skunks and more
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>>662943533
I know, I have family and friends in the military. I didn't join, but went to the National Guard's YCP in Louisiana after I dropped out of high school myself. I grew up in the woods of Mississippi, shooting since I was 4 years old, but only when an adult directly related to me allowed me to. Started on targets I drew myself with crayons. Just big uneven circles. My first gun was a pellet rifle, but I got a .22 when I was 5 and moved up to small game.

Ever since, I've been using bigger guns to kill bigger, delicious animals. I've lived in the city since I was seven to get into a better school, but I still shoot and hunt. I'll be 22 this month.

I'll have my CCW license soon.
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>>662943533
>foreign enemies like Russia

Still stuck in the Cold War?
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>>662935426
yeah if was going to go on a killing spree (which I have no intention of doing), I'd be pretty comfortable with a semi auto. full auto is a waste if you actually know how to shoot
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Things we should actually care about in America:

Reducing deaths from diabetes
Reducing deaths from car accidents
Ending the costly, harmful "war on drugs"
...etc etc.

Gun control should be somewhere around 50 on the list and should be based on actual research not fear mongering.
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>You can't hunt with assault weapons!
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>>662946208
Correct
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>>662946208
yup, it's relatively cheap too.

7.52x51 will dispatch coyotes just fine but 5.56 kills them just as dead for less pennies per round
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>>662946511
it's more like, it's not necessary to use an assault weapon to hunt
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>>662946556
I wouldn't shoot a deer or a ram with 5.56 though.
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Rifles were made to kill humans and animals alike.
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I don't know if anti-gun people have realized this, but technically every rifle is a military weapon. Small arms come in two flavors, old military weapons and new military weapons.
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>>662946784
>making a distinction between humans and animals
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>>662946725
No, it's just more practical.
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>>662947269
>this is what's wrong with humans
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>>662947271
how so?
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>>662939778
I do respect the law generally, but in the place where i come from we have this thing called democracy which allows people to change the law however absurd it sounds.
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>>662946732
i would if the load is right.

definitely not with ball ammo
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"Gun control" is just another power grab by lying thieving politicians.
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"ITT assault weapons" - NO SUCH THING

A rifle is a fucking rifle. a 7.62 round will kill you just as dead if the rifle is black or brown or pink or whatever.

Most importantly: almost nobody uses big-ass rifles to rob liquor stores or shoot their wives. If you want to murder a bunch of people just walk into your local mega-mart and buy a cheap fucking shotgun.
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>>662934559
i've been killed by a fucking wood chipper 5 times already this year so dont tell me wood chippers dont kill people
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>>662946732
>never tried it and afraid to try
>>662945006
>thinks Ar-15 is for hunting
>never had to reload in a defensive situation
>never left the basement of his nice neighborhood
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>>662947731
>implying gun control means outlawing gun ownership
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>>662947648
I'd be worried about ruining the meat.
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>>662947488
It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out having to work a bolt, and have all of your fucking rounds pour out when you pull it back isn't more practical than pulling the trigger again.

Because you've never fired any gun or probably never even held one if I really need to explain it. a 500yd shot isn't exactly straight forward.
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>common murder weapon
>dynamit
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>>662947488
Faster followup shots if the first one doesn't drop the animal, or if you are hunting dangerous game like wild boars in that pic

And there's zero difference between semi auto guns and say bolt action guns if they use the same round. Only the action is different
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>>662947888
It does.
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>>662947888
>implying it doesnt

>implying you don't watch a glowing rectangle all day
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>>662947977
game loads for .223 don't fragment like ball 5.56. They expand like any other hunting round
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>>662947768
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>>662947768
A 19 year old kid got sucked into a woodchipper in my state recently.

And that wasn't even on purpose.
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