> People still get put in prision for 6 months - 2 years for denying the holocaust
Great argumment jew. Should we also make 9/11 conspiracy theorys illegal?
Or denying the gulag?
It is real, and while i thought nobody gets realy in prision for this, many people every year do.
For example the last time a 78 year old got 11 months in prision for denying the holocaust.
> What is the logic behind not being able to believe it was a lie?
I don´t know...jews?
Is that the only think that you know of you cant deny? What about like the US marching all those Indians to death on the trail of tears? Could you say that never happened? Is it a general offense law?
Every major participating nation in world war two had genocidal tendencies. It was really a war between fascism, capitalism, and communism. I think fascism should have won..
How can one deny a holocaust that never happened?
All those Jews died from HIV/AIDS
>Great argumment jew. Should we also make 9/11 conspiracy theorys illegal?
What actually happened on the 9th of November that makes Amerilards so upset?
>Is that the only think that you know of you cant deny?
> What about like the US marching all those Indians to death on the trail of tears?
> Could you say that never happened? Is it a general offense law?
Yes you could, you could even say we never killed russians, or the gulag never happend.
But if you say we don´t had gas chambers, or the nummber of jews that died were less then 6 million, or any of that, you go to prision.
You can´t even make studys about the holocaust to proof it is real, and you can´t dig up this mass graves of the holocaust because its against jewish law, and your laywer will also get in trouble for defending you.
That is fucked up. I believe it all happened the way they say but going to that extend to have no one look into it or criticize the accuracy of the information seems like they are hiding something.
Problem is you can´t even say it was not as much as they claim.
You can´t say anything, everything they say must be true.
Say 6 million died because they starved to death, and not because of gas chambers, you go to prision.
> "hitler did nothing wrong" I could go to jail?
Not sure....i mean you can say you think the holocaust was a good thing, but if you have a shirt that says:
> the holocaust never happend
You go to prision. If you have a tshirt with swastika you get sued.
Germany is run by a women, why are you so stupid? The whole country is a shit hole that lets in immigrants and Muslims by then ten folds because of "Muh special multiculturalism"
Even if they did starve to death, it's still murder. If you take somebody as a prisoner and you don't feed them, you are killing them. Is that really any less abhorrent than herding them into a "shower" and poisoning them?
This guy made a bock why the gas chambers can´t be real, not that they don´t killed 6 million, only the gas chambers.
They put him in prision, and they made the bock illegal, so if you have this bock you also go to prision, if you upload the bock you also go to prision.
You don´t even go to prision for child porn here.
Are you autistic? how can you feed prisoners when you cant even feed your own troops when the allies were bombing every part of Germany and every rail / road they used.
If i had to choose I'd definitely feed my troops then some big noses kike like yourself.
>people believe that something that is literally illegal in places to deny any small detail of what they told you happened exactly as they were told
Not sure which one you're talking about, but David Cole in Auschwitz has the head of the Auschwitz museum admit on tape that the gas chambers were post-war constructions after being shown irrefutable proof that everything he said wasn't true.
Whoever publicly or in a meeting approves of, denies or belittles an act committed under the rule of National Socialism of the type indicated in Section 6 subsection (1) of the Code of Crimes against International Law, in a manner capable of disturbing the public peace shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than five years or a fine
>tfw live in Australia where i go go around saying the holohoax was a hoax and nothing will happen
Is my pc monitor stand illegal in germany? its a copy of mein kampf.
It happened, but it did not happen to that extent and there was no 6 million.
My grandfather worked there for most the war, but he certainly never denied its true purpose, they just had a use for him. They disguised it as a working camp? who would of thought of something like that? You fucking mentally retarded dumb asses hate the Jews so much you try to fake the holocaust so people will share in your hatred. Fuck you and your agenda you piece of shit.
I think leaving Auschwitz intact was a terrible mistake.
Dachau was a well know death camp and was spoken about by people in the cities. Train car captives would breath a sigh of relief if their train was going North instead of south.
Not in America, OP.
>tfw you will never be as free as the USA
Many worked there, and everyone i saw in real life did not saw the gas chamber, not a single one.
The only one that claim the gas chambers are people that speak out 60 years latter, and that were actors some years ago.
I spoke with many jews and guards and even the jews say they never saw a gas chamber, they heard of them, but then when they got in them they got watter instead of gas.
>Tell us oh great historian how many died and please tell me what historical work you gained your information from.
I'll tell you 6 million did not die, even the Russian plaque they had at a memorial said 3-4million Jewish people die,d not 6 million like the number the Jewish were claiming.
Different numbers everywhere.
Oi gevult don't know know the gas was a powdah you filthy goy. They hid the zyclon in da drains and when they turned on the water it formed the deadly gas! Both my grandparents died in the gas chambers when day were only four years old.
Prisoner, because he was married to a Jewish woman that was murdered during the holocaust. He was a shoemaker and glass maker so they used him, his wife and her family were sent to a different camp and all killed.
And did they saw the gas chambers? Or did they starve or were shot or hanged?
I ask you if anyone you know even saw the gas chambers.
Just now there is a new story of a woman that claims she survived the gas chambers.
Anybody Jewish who was alive anywhere in the world during WWII is considered a "holocaust survivor," and all of their descendents who weren't even alive then are also considered "survivors" entitled to compensation. That's what's so wrong with the whole holocaust thing.
Bullshit. The gas Chamber was right behind a Football field, without any fences or threes hiding it.
Jews worked in there.
Also some jews that make there money with bocks claim they survived the gas chamber.....so they just let them out?
How does quoting research that shows fewer than six million died considered "hate" or "violence?"
Where is the hate in such a statement? What is violent about such a statement?
How many holocausts do I need to get to the centre of a tootsie pop?
fuck that shit, i'm Dutch.
don't wanna go to prison for telling the truth.
crooked laws are crooked.
the actual number of jews being killed is more around 1.5-2.5 jews.
it's retarded that we can't have free speech in 2015.
>but a t shirt is okay if you Interpret the law correctly
No its not, you clearly don´t know what you talk about.
A man had a tattoo of SS runen on his fist, and he had to remove it, or to always wear gloves because you can´t show it.
It was the Word haSS with the SS runen.
§ 130 Public Incitement (1985, Revised 1992, 2002, 2005)
3) Whoever publicly or in a meeting approves of, denies or belittles an act committed under the rule of National Socialism of the type indicated in Section 6 subsection (1) of the Code of Crimes against International Law, in a manner capable of disturbing the public peace shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than five years or a fine.
tl;dr yes, in germany
Are you retarded?
And yes, saying it was less than 6 million will get you to prision.
My fucking god are you stupid.
I was talking about the swastika specifically because on its own it cant be undoubtly linked to the nsdap.
So it´s ok to only put muslims in prision who do crimes....but throw all nazis in prision?
I mean how jewish are you?
>many people every year do.
No. Few people go to jail for this.
And since it’s usually Murricans who can’t believe Euro laws banning holocaust denial: Europeans can’t believe our prudery either, e.g., how we essentially ban girls being topless at the beach.
> You cant compare the two.
Of course you can. Are you stupid? You can´t say apples and oranges are the same, but you can compare them.
Just fuck you if you thin religion has some special right, thats fucking bullshit.
> Rather youd have to compare with radical muslims. (Which in fact go to jail for being part in a terrorist organisation)
No they don´t.
For the record I think it's a stupid law, but even as an Amerifag I know about these laws. So it's not like they can claim ignorance to them. People are just willfully breaking a known law which is retarded.
Its the same reason why you get thrown in prison for "hate crimes" in the US. Its just a part of history that Europe has a special connection to much like the us with the enslavement of niggers
> People are just willfully breaking a known law which is retarded.
I mean this whole logic is retarded. So its ok for some countrys to behead atheist....because the atheist knew it is illegal?
My fucking god...
Denying the holocaust is willful ignorance. Willful ignorance has caused the deaths of many people in humanity's history. Truthfully willful ignorance should be punishable by death.
> Not all muslims are radical but all nazis are thats why you cant compare them
What? Why are they, because you say so? And not everyone that denys the holocaust is a nazi.
Your whole logic is so retarded.
> HURR its ok to put people in a free country in prision for SS
Go kill yourself.
Fuck outta here with that bullshit. There is not ONE shred of evidence to substantiate the existence of a deity.
FUCK you, we will just put you to death if you deny god, and over.
What are you gonna do against it? If it is a law you better follow it.
In fact there are countrys right now where you get killed if you don´t belive in god.
So this proofs me right.
That is fucking bullshit. And again, not everyone who denys the holocaust is a nazi.
I could just make the same logic as you fucking muslimdicksuckers do:
Nazism has nothing to do with the holocaust, nazi idelogy is peace, and what hitler did was just an isolated case.
Fuck off with your retarded logic, there is litterly a fucking bock that says kill people that are gay or that go out of islam.
Fucking try it. There are already over a BILLION of us. People are waking up. It is only inevitable.
*Do you have autism?
Or did you mean
*Do you perhaps have autism?
Speaking of autism.
Hitler himself set all values for the nsdap and they all followed those values. Theres no doubt about his intentions.
On other side the quran can be interpreted multiple ways. Islam also is the religion of piece but unfortunately sand niggers abused it by introducing the sharia.
>Hitler himself set all values for the nsdap and they all followed those values. Theres no doubt about his intentions.
Mohhamed himself set all values for the islam and blabla.
Whats your point kike?
Hate crimes in the US only apply when it involves a violent act against a person or group. Unlike Europe, we don't imprison anyone for anything they say or believe simply because they believe it.
I don´t insult your intelligence i ask you if you have autism, because clearly you don´t even get what i ment, and you think now i belive in god.
>What if you say 5,999,000 Jews were killed? Do you still go to jail?
No, asshole. Even if you write a scientific paper that argues — based on evidence — that, say, 4 or 5 million were killed, nothing is going to happen to you.
You are only prosecuted if the context in which you say or write such denial is clearly a Nazi one, like
> oh, there were no gas chambers
> adolf was a good boy
> dindo nuffin
> Jokes on you because he didnt
No....god did it....
Guys, the reason the USA allows free speech is because we may love our country, but we never trust our leaders. Europeans blindly obey their leaders. A leader like Hitler would be laughed at in the USA, but in Europe they will obey him because he is their leader. That's why you can't discuss certain topics in Europe.
>No, asshole. Even if you write a scientific paper that argues — based on evidence — that, say, 4 or 5 million were killed, nothing is going to happen to you.
Yes you will get in trouble for this.
You are clearly a jew.
> NO ASSHOLE
Yeah, 100% of people that deny the holocaust are nazis.
Also 100% of people who think 9/11 was a conspiracy are anti semite right?
Put them all in prision, its ok.
So 4 million is okay... but if you argue only 10,000 died, you go to prison. Somewhere between is the legal cutoff. What is that number? 3 million? 2 million? 2.3 million? 2.8?
It's stupid to be openly hostile towards the police, but ultimately that isn't against the law. I wouldn't suggest it because the police are not to be trusted, and would likely make some shit up. At least the fact that it's not against the law to do so is an improvement over Euro laws.
After your definition every person that denys the holocaust is a nazi.
And of course scientist won´t say anything about this because they loose there jobs and funs.
Its fucking illegal, don´t you get it?
Do you think Ahmadinejad is a nazi? Wellp...
That is so dumb, I believe in the holocaust but people should not be put in jail for not believing/believing something. It just makes it more suspicious if they have to jail people for discussing ideas.
Im from europe and recently I am starting believing what you're saying is true. Thanks god to USA for existing and remember what free people can do without rules , religion and kings.
GOD BLESS USA
>So 4 million is okay... but if you argue only 10,000 died, you go to prison. Somewhere between is the legal cutoff.
No. Context is key. Someone who argued the 10.000 number out of sheer ignorance would not go to jail. Again, cite one case where somebody who wasn't a Nazi went to jail.
>Yeah, 100% of people that deny the holocaust are nazis.
Clearly, no. Plenty of Muslims repeat holocaust denials they heard from their politicians or in the mosque. As long as they repeat them out of ignorance, they won't go to jail.
Again, cite ONE frikkin case where someone went to jail who wasn't known to be a Nazi or anti-Semitic fanatic.
The people sent to jail for this are well-known agitators who have been trying to mobilize lots of people against democratic governments or Jews. NOT crazy people who just don't understand the world and who nobody listens to.
Eurocucks don't give a shit about free speech, they're actually locking people up for being mean to someone on the internet. I seriously hope the muslims over there take over and fuck up their shitty, hippie countries.
> Again, cite one case where somebody who wasn't a Nazi went to jail.
Does he seem like a fucking Nazi to you?
People make conspiracys about everything, and now all of the sudden 100% of people who make it about the holocaust are nazis?
You are fucking retarded.
You even get put in jail if you deny the holocaust as a jew.
fuck you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berga,_Thuringia American G.I's died there
go fuck yourself
>NOT crazy people who just don't understand the world and who nobody listens to.
Now kill yourself jew. So a 78 year old men tryed to mobolize lots of people?
Even in poland the guy that made the comics about this jew that got out of the holocaust because he was sick got in prision.
You are clearly brainwashed if you can´t even use google for 5 min.
And of course now you will say:
> CLEARLY this 78 year old guy was the next hitler, he tried to kill jews
Fuck off kike.
You even get in jail just for helping denying the holocaust.
> They are obviously symphetising with the nsdap which makes them nazis
My fucking god...but he don´t.
Clearly you never said that, its just the logic you use.
In your mind you think everyone that thinks the holocaust was a lie is clearly a nazi.
So that's your evidence? A fraud who claimed to be a scientist, but wasn't even an engineer? Someone who's made a career of sorts of defending Nazis and speaking at Nazi gatherings?
>Clearly you never said that, its just the logic you use.
That's you're problem for making faulty assumptions.
>In your mind you think everyone that thinks the holocaust was a lie is clearly a nazi.
No. See my comment about Muslims (in Muslim countries — Muslims in Euro have all the info to know better) who just don't know any better.
You said he is Nsdap. To this time there was no fuking nsdap.
So how can he be from nsdap?
And why would the fucking Nsdap care about america.
Thats as stupid as saying i am a german nazi, and then i leave to go to turkey.
A nazi don´t does this.
You can clearly be an anti semite, but not a nazi.
That's the best you can come up with. Both of these guys had been convicted several times before. None of these is just a regular guy who was thrown in jail for making an honest mistake about the number killed.
And what of their ages? Nazis can't be 78?
wow a bunch of bullshit great read
>none thinks it's interesting?
My fucking god, i have now posted dozen of news article of people getting arrested for holocaust denial.
They all tried to mobolize groups?
Clearly you are fucking retarded, because the truth is you will get to prision if you deny the holocaust, end of story. They don´t care if you are a nazi, a russian, a turk, you will go.
Of course it's true. You should move here. We are full of all nationalities and religions: athiest, christian, muslim. We don't carry guns around in public, and you will never encounter police or the government unless you are a criminal. Everyone is rich compared to the rest of the world, so you can start a business and make as much money as you want. Every city makes it easy to start a business because we like capitalism.
This is why we have the most immigrants of all countries in the world.
>That's the best you can come up with. Both of these guys had been convicted several times before.
Yeah, for the same crime.
> None of these is just a regular guy who was thrown in jail for making an honest mistake about the number killed.
No of course not, they tried to find proof for it, just like people do with 9/11.
I don´t even understand how someone can still defend this crazy rule.
Your face when you realize that nazis were the good guys in war.
With out a doubt the Holocaust is a lie used to justify the second war against Nazi Germany/Prussia and its allies.
Fuck the British.
>'Murifats suddenly stand alone
>dollar continues to collapse
>can't invade Iran anymore to keep the petrodollar alive
>printing presses go into overdrive
>all hell breaks loose
>the chinks take the opportunity to invade
>slavshits back them
>world ends up being divided between commie chinks and commie slavshits
>we all dun goofed
The photo of the typhoid victim is Lizzie van Zyl, who was starved in a British concentration camp during the Boer War. While her final cause of death was indeed typhoid, her skeletal appearance is due to prolonged starvation.