Sup 4chan- I produce, direct, and develop reality TV. Ask me anything!

>>593698536
what kindve producer are you?

I will only be able to answer show specific questions about programming that myself or colleagues of mine have produced, but am happy to answer generals about authenticity, salary, working conditions, safety, etc.

>>593698685
My title is supervising producer.

>>593698726
what shows have you produced?

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How did it feel realizing you tried to high five a blind guy?

>>593698536
are you happy you are turning women kind into complete retards by your actions?

>>593698901
To avoid incrimination here, I'm going to try and avoid specifics, but I can tell you the spaces I work in: transactional (think storage wars, barter kings, auction hunters), Alaska shows (think Yukon Men, Flying Wild, Alaskan Bush People), some food shows for Gordon Ramsey, and some other randoms formats.

>>593699314
I don't do house wife shows or celeb reality, so I don't think I'm guilty of this.

>>593699290
Never worked with Seacrest! Want to know the most famous people I've worked with, and what they are like?

>>593699392
No one cares. Post nudes of hot reality show stars. You know you have them.

>>593699674
Fine that you don't care, I'm not here to brag, just thought some people may find it interesting.

Only ever hooked up with one reality star. That's more sound guys and shit that try to fuck the talent.

Will you do a reality show about my normal, run of the mill life?
Sometimes I go to my friend's house and we watch movies and play video games

>>593700039
To be honest with you, I do not see a lot of potential for your format. However, thank you for your submission!

>>593700030
Did you ever finger blast Honey BooBoo?

>>593700030
>not here to brag
>post on /b/ to bunch of anonymous neckbeards

Ok

>>593700314
No I did not. This seems like it would be a very poor career move.

nyc or la?

>>593700392
I like /b/, it entertains me. I thought maybe I could contribute something other than the usual.

>>593700248
Did I neglect to mention we have superpowers and exchange millions on the stock market daily while prospecting for precious metals in the dark reaches of the world?

>>593700482
LA. Have worked for a couple NYC based companies though. They are very different than the LA ones.

>>593700721
In that case, I can be there to shoot a sizzle tomorrow.

>>593700428
It's not about the career, it's about the PASSION!
You Hollywood types are all the same...

>>593700591
/b/ is not about original content. It's requests for porn, tired memes started by Reddit, CP, and traps.

>>593701071
If I cared about PASSION, I would work in a different space. I work in reality because the work and money is steady and provides a comfortable life despite my lack of a university education or a privileged upbringing.

>>593700591
Just to add a bit, I mostly come here for loli stuff and the occasional g/fur(furry) threads. I got a little sore recently though so I thought I should "give back".

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>>593701120
There was a time... Way back in the day...

>>593698536
how does satans cock taste like?

is it nice and scaly?

>>593701120
I know. However, my favorite posts on here are the weird OC, like the Peter Pepperoni story.

>>593701340
This is not me posting, but thanks for contributing!

>>593701388
Thank you. I first came here in the shoop da woop days when there was a decent ammount of OC.

>>593701461
I've not tasted it personally, but I hear it tastes like asparagus.

>>593701633
This is not me posting either, but thanks for contributing!

OK, I'll bite -- who are the whiniest, bitchiest crew members?

How much of the "conflict" and "big finds" are staged on those auction hunting type shows?

>>593698536
Why haven't you blown up your work place, with you inside? Reality TV is a cancer, that must be purged. How does it feel to know you are literally one of the shittiest human beings in existence?

>>593702144
Big finds 100%. Conflict show specific. Auction Hunters used to have real auctions. Storage Wars has always been 100% fake, down to the "auctions." Producers stuff the lockers, then let the talent rummage through them and react naturally.

>>593701980
good to know

>>593698536
i have a question, why would you contribute to reality tv, the asshole of television

>>593702396
Hah! Thanks for the sides, friend. I just got back from a 3 week vacation in europe with my lovely girlfriend, so I have very little desire to die. Life's great!

>>593702396
This might be true but I really do just love the money. Thanks for contributing though!

>>593702689
Yeah but isn't there money in other fields of the entertainment biz?

>>593702603
Because I am not jewish and connected enough to direct and producer features. I did direct a commercial this year though, and would really love to move into a different space. Reality TV provides a good living for me despite the fact that I do not personally watch the content I produce outside of work.

>>593702458
What about the Alaska shows? Is anything staged there?

>>593702882
I didn't post the money thing, and yes there is, but without deep hollywood connections (which I was not born into), it is incredibly hard to get a job at my level in features or commercials, so reality it is for now.

Do you ever have to deal with random people trying to convince you they can be the next big reality start?

>>593703030
Completely depends on the show. First season of Yukon Men was legit. Either myself or a friend almost died out there. Do you want to know about a specific show?

>>593703289
Literally every day. Especially when I go back home to my smallish hometown or when I meet new people in LA.

>>593703373
how about duck dynasty, that shit has to be scripted

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>>593703162
I did not post either of these and am not prejudice against Jewish people at all. But what was said it partly true, the industry has a lot to do with connections.

>>593703631
Completely scripted. I have produced several programs for Gurney Productions (production company that shoots ducks), and I could answer questions about any of them you are curious about.

>>593703373
I only ever got into to Yukon men and Gold Rush. Do they have to start staging things as the series progresses?

Also if you know anything about Gold Rush it does seem like they are having TOO many problems.

Sorry for another is the show fake question, but that show Moonshiners is a load of shit right? Especially the first season when the "cop" was trying to track the moonshiners down.

>>593704005
Yes, as the series progresses, things become much more planned. First season of YM is legit though. However, all activities are now planed by producers. First season was still one of the most dangerous shows to work on in reality history.

>>593704022
Moonshiners 100% fake unfortunately. If that show was real, it would be amazing.

>>593703917
sure, why the scripting? is it because the show gets so boring after its first season that they have to start throwing in all this semi interesting shit just to keep it going?

>>593704005
I didn't work on goldrush, but had meetings for the second season. Turned it down because I didn't want to go back to Alaska. I know when they are getting up there is real, not sure about the content where they are actually mining. I know the characters were initially authentic in their desire, but the gold hunt was partially funded by the network.

>>593704234
So I'm guessing you don't know about Gold Rush then?
Also, I've been wondering for a while but how did the whole popularity of Alaska shows and Auction type shows start? There are literally dozens of each type on the air.

>>593704396
I always figured that. I was willing to play along until they showed the two guys hiding in the thinning wooded area watching the cop walk around. All I could think about was there was no way he couldn't see the film crew standing there.

>>593704406
That's part of it, but actually, it's more about cost. If you don't have an episode completely planned, you have to shoot for an exponentially greater amount of time. Even the smallest shows have a crew of around 20 people, and with our tight budgets, it's just not feasible to keep everyone in the field filming indefinitely.

What is the worst pitch you ever heard?

>>593704869
Show formats are determined by network buy lists, based on breakout successes.

So once a format breaks through, every network requests and buys a ton of copy cat programming.

Make sense?

>>593705521
That's kinda of what I figured. If someone else is making a ton of money on one concept just copy it to try and steal some of their profits.

What's a network buy list?

>>593705202
This is literally the worst pitch I ever received. It's from some very cringe bro I went to high scool with who sent me a facebook message: "So the idea is based on bloopers. There is a script for each epi, but we only use about 20% of the material for the story line. The other 80% is the actors running lines for the scene but we only use the bloopers of each scene. It's a show for actors. I'm thinking it's either serious issues like a csi crime drama or maybe a restaurant, Beverly Hills high school, comedy. Not sure which way to go yet, I think having kids would be great or something around the industry. Each season changes all the characters and the situation, but same method. Make sense? What do you think?"

Have you ever worked on any hidden camera shows? I have always wondered how the talent keeps from getting noticed as the series gain popularity.

Have you done any work with History Channel, a la Pawn Stars or American Pickers? Or know anything about them?

I've always felt like American Pickers was a little more genuine, seeing as they have (or seem to) a preexisting business.

>>593706005
A network buy list is just a list each network has of the type of new shows it wants to buy. So it might be 3 transactional shows, 2 12x30, 1 8x60.

That means 3 new shows in that format, two at 30 minutes long 12 episodes each, and one at 60 minutes long with an 8 episode run.

>>593706611
I have not personally. I can however tell you that the pickers legitimately despise each other, and have no relationship off camera. They are tremendous actors.

>>593706611
I am not the OP, but I do know that the Pawn Stars guys had a business for a long time before the show. Rick tired to sell his show idea for years before History gave it a shot. I will say that a lot of the reactions from the sellers seem over the top.

>>593706408
I have not done hidden camera, but these shows tend to be very legitimate. Once the show is a hit they have to resort to very remote filming locations and foreign countries, ala Jackass.

>>593706946
Aw man, that makes me pretty sad. By no relationship does that mean the whole business and story of their friendship is made up?

I don't want this thread to die because I think it is really interesting, but I can't think of anymore questions.

how about storage wars OP

>>593707227
What do you think of the way television is going? As in a more online direction like Youtube/netflix?

TheFineBros and several other Youtube stars have recently gotten shows on TV. What is the industry's/your opinion of the online medium?

>>593698536
>are you Jewish?
if yes
>Do you have a soul or will you literally produce any degree of degrading shit to make a quick buck?
if no
>Why are you trying to be one?

>>593707452
To be honest I don't know their background before the show, just their current relationship. The assistant girl was added by the network for sure (we add a girl to almost every transactional show as the people in that world are very homely).

Please tell me the Monster Man is still in business and is an alright dude. He seemed so cool on TV.

>>593707814
What would you like to know about it, friend? Producers stuff the lockers, and the auctions are fake, for starters.

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Next time you get a headache, gimme a call...

>>593707865
My industry is still fairly confused as how to utilize internet talent. It's a weird different world.

I love netflix, and HBOGO, although netflix selection has been really shitty last six months or so.

Something my mom noticed: the Call of the Wild Man show (I think that's the name?) about some "legendary" guy who has lived in the wilderness for decades never seems to feature an episode of him braving the winter weather.
Thoughts/comments?

There was a guy on storage hunters that worked in the shop. He was german and a DJ on the side. He has a youtube channel and I have never been able to figure out if it is just a character he plays that has gotten him real jobs or if that is really his personality. Do you know the guy I am talking about?

>>593708599
Thanks, pal! MY neck hurts pretty bad right now. Could you give me a neckrub, perhaps?

>>593708292
you basically answered it before i could even ask the question. So im guessing thats why that dave guy got kicked off for a couple seasons for blabbing about it being phony in one episode?

>>593708065
No I am not.

I'm not, dude. I'm trying to make a living.

>>593708755
it would be footage of a guy living in a cabin for 4 months and occasionally going outside to shit.

>>593708828
Yes, he was fired. He won a settlement in a lawsuit afterwards.

>>593708755
I have spent a lot of time with turtleman.

>>593709018
Hah! You get it. This is what all reality tv would be without producers like myself driving action.

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>>593708974
>I'm trying to make a living.

By playing to the lowest common denominator and -actively- reducing the average IQ of the audience. That's your idea of "making a living"?

Pic related: The job you deserve...

>>593709388
and they still brought him back

>>593708755
Turtleman is however the most fucking insane hillbilly I've ever met, and that's saying something. He does actually live in a shitty cabin he built himself, with no plumbing or running water, despite making a pretty good salary off TV.

>>593709845
Your pic made me kek. And is somewhat similar to my job. I can find fucking gold anywhere!

>>593709845
Also, do tell, what is your profession? If it's something other than cancer research or school teacher, you probably shouldn't be judging the nobility of the work of others.

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>>593708804
Sure. Lay your head on this block

>>593710622
Jeez! That's so kind of you. And people say 4chan is a merciless hive of filth. They obviously don't know you, anon. ;)

>>593698536
To what extent is reality TV scripted/staged?

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>>593710472
Cabinetmaker, actually.

Pic related

>>593711080
Almost entirely. We aim to put our talent in situations and let them react naturally, so not always scripted per se, but every episode is planned from a story perspective.

>>593711287
So much for "reality"...

>>593711182
That's actually a fucking rad profession. My dad was a carpenter, and I grew up gophering on jobsites. I sometimes fantasize about getting out of reality, and working with my hands. I built a deck once.

For your food shows with Ramsay, I have to imagine he's paid to lose his temper, or at least encouraged. Were the shows you were involved with more of the competition based?

>>593698536
One of my guilty pleasures is Bad Girls Club. I've always been curious about the degree to which shows where they put people in a house and there's all the drama are scripted. And really anything else interesting about those kinda shows. What can you tell me about that?

>>593711644
Yes, competition reality.

Gordon is a really nice guy! Always tries to get his cameramen laid. Pays for drinks, etc.

He is however the about the busiest guy in reality tv, with all the shows he stars on, as well as the ones his company, OPTP produce (ones he does not star on).

>>593711764
BGC is not scripted. They just cast the most low life trash they can find, and then manipulate them. Binum Murray is pretty against scripting in general, they are a very old school production company, and one of the best to work for.

Do producers attempt to keep bitchy/dramatic talent in competition shows like Ink Master for a longer part of the competition in order to drive up ratings? I feel like having a character who is always starting shit with people would be a goldmine for a producer.

>>593712456
Yes. One of the worst feelings in the world is being forced to fix the results of a competition show based on network directive. I've only done this once.

>>593712336
What do you mean by "manipulate them"? Like, to what extent?

>>593711608
Do that. If you are a creative sort then use it. Reality TV is the lowest form of TV. Especially when it's some train wreck like Honey Boo Boo.

If you are determined to be a documentarian, then at least document the better aspects of people. Set a -better- fucking example.

Richard Nixon said the American people don't believe anything until it's on TV. Unfortunately they believe -everything- on TV and you are helping to make them believe shit like Real Housewives is something to strive for. With great power comes great responsibility. What you put on the air matters.

>>593712872
any details on this occasion? I totally had that feeling. I can imagine it would totally suck to be put in that position.

>>593712932
Manipulation is generally achieved by forming a trusting relationship with the talent, and then feeding them selective information and questioning them in a way that drives them towards certain responses.

How serious are the non-disclosure agreements that the competitors sign on the competition shows?

Idk why no one has asked this. How long you been in the business? How'd you get your first show, and did you start as a producer or work your way up from a lower position?

>>593713125
I really can't disagree with you, you seem like a smart person with a reasonable outlook. I can tell you that I do not produce content that I consider to be a detriment to society (housewife shows, honey boo boo, etc.), and the main reason I am in reality is because I did not have such a comfortable upbringing, and I am really grateful to have a profession that I am very good at that compensates me fairly well. At some point in the not too distant future I plan to get out, but right now the money is too good and I'm enjoying having a comfortable lifestyle for the first time in my life.

Do fan votes in a competition show really matter? In other words, are there ever times when a network will falsify the vote tally to create a desired result?

>>593699314
dude, men dont watch reality shows.

Well faggots might, but actual men dont/

>>593713675
I've been in reality for 6 years. I started at the very, very bottom. As a post production PA. Was able to teach myself to use editing software (AVID) while working 16 hour days running tape stock, and worked my way into post production from there. Always wanted to direct, so I started moving that direction a couple years in, and now I run shows in the field, direct them, develop them back in LA, etc. I am fortunate enough to be represented by one of the big three creative agencies in the states, and that helps tremendously. Kind of lucked into that part, but the rest was just hard work and a high tolerance for pain.

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>>593713903
>right now the money is too good and I'm enjoying having a comfortable lifestyle for the first time in my life.

Can't really fault you for that.

>>593714047
Yes we will cheat to get our desired outcomes. I do not like this, and for this reason I no longer work in competition reality.

>>593714497
Thanks. Are you the cabinet maker again? Can you post any other furniture you've made?

As a producer of Reality TV, I imagine you must have some trouble watching it. That being said, what tv DO you watch? Can you recommend any good dramas or other shows?

In other words, what do YOU watch when you sit down in front of the tv at home?

If anyone here used to watch flying wild alaska, I can tell you that the "boxes of essential medicine" were usually filled with doritos. Literally, bags of chips from our crafty. That show is depressing.

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>>593715221
The beginnings of an island in a huge damned kitchen..

>>593715661
You're correct, I can't watch any reality tv (outside of work, where I watch and give notes on the edits).

I watch a lot of movies, not much TV. As far as current stuff, I like Game of Thrones and The League. My favorite show of all time is Seinfeld. Last good drama I saw was The Shield, my dad gave me a dvd set of it some years ago and I really enjoyed it.

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>>593715838
Well damn. I used to watch that one because of an interest in bush flying. Planning to build my own lane someday

>>593715962
That must be a big kitchen! Mostly work on modern stuff? Pops restored really old houses, like 1800's shit. Always loved old buildings.

Have you ever seen treehouse masters? I ran a season of that, and the guys on the show are very talented carpenters.

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I'm starting to run out of questions. But thanks for answering these!

>>593716868
Thanks for asking! I appreciate you sticking around. Let me know if you have anymore generals. I feel like no one has asked about the really scummy stuff yet.

>>593698536
>Ask me anything
Why dont you take your faggot ass back to reddit?

>>593716851
Actually, I do like Treehouse Masters. Good show with lots of information and ideas on design. I can't believe that guys is that perky in real life though. Not running a business like that.

>>593717026
I feel like I don't watch enough to know what to ask. What sort of things might those be?

>>593716822
You should do it. I used to be a tour guide out in denali, after dropping out of college, but before moving to LA. Small aircraft are fucking awesome. I want to get a piper cub at some point, fun as hell to fly in, and can land take off just about everywhere. If your space is limited, that'd be a great plane for you. What state you in?

>>593717289
Because I already payed for this 4chan gold pass :'(

>>593717289
How about you not be rude to an OP who is actually providing a interesting conversation and actual OC.

Ignore the haters OP.

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>>593717385
forgot pic, kitchen related. I've had apartments that were smaller...

>>593717385
Honestly most of the really dirty stuff is show specific, or about crew working conditions. Not as salacious as the tabloids. I'll try and think of something interesting.

Do ANY of the survival shows have some form of legitimacy to them? And if I find out surviorman is fake I will fucking cry

>>593717376
Cool! Yeah, we try to do a lot of info on the show, Most interesting thing I learned about were the dynamic upward arrestors, are you familiar with the concept? The HMW is an interesting material, especially in such an organic build space.

Pete is a fucking great guy, and some of the best talent I've ever worked with. Very genuine, and he is legitimately excited about every project. He does of course have to play things up for camera, but it's all based on who he really is as a person. And yes he gets super stressed sometimes, but mostly because the network puts unrealistic timeframes on the build, and as a result, he and his crew get fucked and have to pull all nighters and have sub contractors working on top of each other.

>>593717997
are we talking physical conditions on location? Or how the crew is treated by talent/admin?

>>593718113
Naked and afraid is legit. 100%.

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>>593717558
Ohio. Honestly, after "flying" a couple of the routes seen on Flying Wild: Alaska in FSX, I realized I'm too old for that shit.

I will probably build minimax or a volksplane or something along that line after I retire here in a few years. Until then I'll stick to sims and RC models.

Pic: Part of a sewing room for a very wealthy client who kept her house at 80 fucking degrees while I was lugging these upstairs...

>>593718674
Physical conditions and work hours. A lot of producers are fucking scum too. I always treat my crew as good as possible, but sometimes you are just shooting in a fucked location, with bugs, and heat, and snakes, and no toilets, and granola bars for your meals, and there's nothing you can do about it.

Any insight on Shark Tank? Are they really giving their own money?

Do contestants that win a show ever get shafted by the network in terms of what they are supposed to win?

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>>593718608
>And yes he gets super stressed sometimes, but mostly because the network puts unrealistic timeframes on the build, and as a result, he and his crew get fucked and have to pull all nighters and have sub contractors working on top of each other.

Replace "network" with "Customer" and I have been there, done that.

Pic: the view from the sewing room... House was the size of an apartment building...

>>593718890
Holy shit man, just looked up a volksplane and it looks awesome. I wouldn't fly that fucker in alaska though!

Some of my sketchiest experiences have been on small planes up in the bush. A decent number of people die in crashes every single year.

>>593719435
Hah! I guess some things are universal.

That's a beautiful set of windows. What's your favorite project you've ever done?

>>593698536
Whats it like being a souless culture murdering Jew? Bonus points: dont mention your shekels.

>>593698536
Can you give me a job? Im a 17 yr old in phoenix.

>>593719441
Yeah. It's a young man's game and I ain't no more.

If you are handy with wood, you should look into Fisher Flying Products. They do all wood kit airplanes including a 2/3 tiger moth. Started of making model airplane kits then went full scale. The Dakota 2 place started as a model...

>>593719257
this.

>>593719899
Well, I'm not Jewish, and I think a lot of the shows I producer have a less negative cultural impact than the majority of reality or traditional scripted content (which you'd know if you read the thread, my faggy friend).

But brah, the sheckles are fucking magnificent.

>>593719900
Im serious OP

>>593719881
The thing that meant the most to me was being asked to build the box my employer's ashes would be kept in. Don't have a pic for it.

He was a good friend and mentor. I learned a lot from him.

What does the crew do to entertain themselves when not filming?

>>593719257
Yes, shark tank winners get their investments.

When people get shafted, it's in the details. Like say you win a restaurant space- you still have to pay taxes on the space, and get a licenses to operate a food service business ($$$), and the space doesn't come with all the kitchen equipment that was featured on the show, etc.

Also if you win a makeover show for home/biz, we will cut every fucking corner possible and the work will be held together with duct tape for camera and then you will have to pay to fix it.

Sorry.

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>>593720684
And with that, I am out.

Pic: My friend Obie with a piece he designed for the Dean of a local college...

What does your family think of your career?

Also, do you ever go to big screening/wrap parties? Any stories?

>>593720508
Hey bud, I am in LA, so I cannot give you a job in AZ. My favorite camera operator is a scummy lil desert rat from AZ, and I hire him on every show I can, but he lives in LA. Have to move out here if you want to work in the industry.

>>593720684
That's a very heavy build, my man. Sorry for your loss.

Hey, OP. What's the best way to pitch a show so you won't have the idea stolen from you or get screwed out of the project? Literally, what type of people do I call, what paperwork should I have, and how do I get it picked up?

>>593721210
Obie looks like a fucking G. Nice talking with you. Keep watching THM and good luck with the plane. Fly safe out there.

I want to know more about survival shows. It's always seemed absurd to me that camera crews would get dropped in a hostile location with say, Bear Grylls and would have to resort to the same shit as him to survive. How does that work when you take camera crews to hostile environments like that? And to what extent are those survival shows scripted if at all?

>>593721254
Can I do anything because I'm a woman?

>>593721231
My mom and dad are both very proud.

Dude! Wrap parties are the best. Open bar, great venues, and it's easy to get laid. Show is over so everyone ends up fucking everyone based on all the sexual tension that built up while living on location and being forbidden from having romantic relationships with co workers.

>>593721981
I actually like to hire female APs. They are more organized.

>>593721534
A couple things- no one gives a shit about your format. It has been pitched a million times. All that matters is the talent. Sign them to an ironclad attachment agreement, and then pitch your show based on them. Someone will still steal your idea, but they will have to pay you for it because they want your talent.

Can you bring hitler back to hitler channel? Animals back to animal planet? Learning back to learning channel? I want real documentaries back that is the reality I want to see

Are normal relationships difficult for you? Whether its the stress of being away on location for filming or just the shallowness of people in LA, or even those that can't look past your job, do you ever have issues in your relationships?

>>593721923
Completely depends on the show. When I'm filming legit stuff like that (which is pretty rare these days), the crew is VERY small, and is comprised of hard asses. I'm a former alaska tour guide and certified rescue medic who is good with fire arms, and on a certain alaska show, my team included one northface sponsored mountaineer as a camera op (guy has summited everest, K2, etc.), and the toughest hillbilly I've ever met as my other camera op.

Some shows let the talent and everyone elese sleep in nice hotels while filming those shows "out in the bush," and I've done those too. Just depends on the show.

>>593722740
Not OP but Unfortunately in today's market those don't make money. No demand = No money = no show.

>>593722207
Assets Protection?

>>593723015
Yes, very. All the things you mentioned are accurate- I grew up in the northwest and most of the women in LA are not really my type personality wise, although very attractive. My relationships tend to be short for this reason, as well as the stress of frequently leaving town for months at a time. I was injured pretty bad on my last shoot so I've been in town for a while, and am lucky enough to have met a really great girl who I have a great relationship with. But you never know what's going to happen when you go on the road. It puts a tremendous amount of stress on a relationship, especially when you are working 16 hours a day and have limited cell/internet service due to being in the middle of no where.

>>593723230
Out of interest, what are some of the shows that fall in the second category?

>>593723982
Associate Producer. Low level producer responsible for logistics, cold calls, locations, etc.

>>593722740
You and I have the same desire, my friend, and unfortunately, that is beyond my control. The market dictates the buy lists, ergo, the people get what they want, and, what they deserve.

>>593724468
Do a poll find out what people want

>>593724076
I'll tell you one, it's called Call of the Wildman. But still one of the toughest shows I've ever done, as we were really out in the jungle in KY, just not sleeping out there.

>>593724682
We don't need to do a poll, we have the nielsen ratings and advertising revenues to base programming off of.

>>593724720
If you are in a jungle of ky do rednecks use ky before anally raping you to sound of dueling banjos?

is there a 'cast' that producers look for in a show? I.e. this guy is the asshole, this guy is a decent person, this is the psycho bitch who thinks everyone is out to get her...

I feel like this would apply to a lot of competition shows. And on that note, to applicants for competition shows get auditioned like regular actors to see if they would fit what you're looking for?

>>593725113
Kek! I have never been raped, but I appreciate the imagery. I believe they use pig grease for lube there though.

>>593716868
Still here OP I appreciate you continuing to answer questions. I'm sitting down with some ramen to stay with this thread.

>>593725284
Yeah, exactly. We cast based on the archetypes we need for a given program.

Casting process is very similar to traditional acting audition. Usually I will have an AP conduct a phone interview first, then if the person seems interesting I'll have the AP shoot a casting reel of them. If I really like what I see, I'll check them out myself, size them up, feel them out, and run them through some improv exercises.

>>593725702
Ayyyye ramen godbless.

Are you Mexican?

why does hollywood hate mexicans?

>>593725982
yup, I'm a 22/m/computer Engineering student out in GA. Out of curiosity is there any engineering involved in making television? I'm assuming your sound techs and engineers are a large part.

>>593725982
Also, your opinion on White-washing in tv/movies?

>>593726408
No, I am certainly not.

>>593726732
We don't. They make excellent burritos.

>>593718703
Do any of those people ever fuck in the wild? I would have a hard time not raping the life out of my partner for the lulz.

And is toad hoffman as big of a lazy piece of stupid shit as he portrays on tv?>>593718890

Is any of it REAL!?

>>593720394
+10 internets. Thanks OP this has been great. Also great work Cabinet Guy. It is always nice to see a craftsmans work.

>>593726813
Hm. Not engineering in the traditional sense. In the field we have audio sups and sound mixers, but they are not trained engineers. Motion graphics and editing are computer based but not really engineering. The process we call onlining (color correction, blurring, final mixdowns) is very technical, but I also just realized I don't know anything about engineering, so I'm probably not qualified to answer a question this general.

I can answer technical questions about specific areas if you're curious, just not how they pertain to current engineering degrees.

>>593726947
I'm assuming you're referring to the new Ridley Scott film? It doesn't bother me. Laurence Olivia played Othello back in the day- nothing new.

How did you get started in the business?

>>593727491
Thanks man! I was hoping someone might enjoy something a little different. My favorite threads on the chans are always weird OC, so I figured what the hell, let's make a thread.

>>593727065
Talent frequently fuck each other. Crew-cast relations are forbidden, although they do happen sometimes.

I don't know anything about Toad Hoffman, sorry man.

>>593727728
That's fine! I understand it was a general question. Here's an editing one for you. I have a running theory that shows like chopped where there is an element of a time limit will edit shots near the end of the timer, say at 30 seconds, and cut from the timer at 30 seconds to a shot of what a contestant was doing when they had about 60 seconds left to make it seem like they're fucked for time.

It just seems like to happen every time but contestants are still able to magically finish. I'm pretty sure Ink Master and Sweet Genius are guilty of this in a big way too.

>>593728330
I fucking hate that fat piece of shit. I only watch that God awful show hoping he OD's on coke or dies in an accident.

And now dickscovery has their new gem with the incest clan Alaskan bush people that has to be fake or those sisters are getting raped repeatedly by their brothers.

>>593728029
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>>593728559
Hey! That's actually a totally astute observation. You are correct- we bank shots of the timers at every stage to drop in as needed to make the finish seem more dramatic. However, the cooking process is legit, we just amp it up for tv editorially. Make sense?

>>593728751
All the flavors available in the kitchen and you chose salty?

>>593729123
Ha! I knew I had to be right. Any other editing tricks common in the business? Are sound stages heavily used in place of real locations?

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>>593729824
Our entire business is built on an editing "trick" we call the frankenbite. Bite is short for soundbite. It's something memorable and pertinent that talent says. A frankenbite is a a bite constructed from various words and sentences actually spoken by the talent but reconstructed in post production to make them say whatever we want.

tl:dr We cherry pick words and edit them together to make the talent say whatever we want.

>>593729824
Also, the only time we use sound stages in place of real locations is for interviews. Never for reality VTR.

>>593730384
damn do you have any examples of this, and can you tell sometimes? Like if you're watching a show can you tell when that happens?

>>593730384
Very interesting, I feel like I've picked up on that before too. I imagine it can be heavily used in promos for next week's episode to make it seem like some dramatic event happens?

Also, I'm gonna be turning in for the night in a couple minutes, But this is certainly one of the best threads I've seen on /b/ in a while. Thanks OP. Much love.

>>593730816
Man, would be hard to name a specific example, because literally every single show is built on this technique. When you see someone start talking in interview, and then it cuts to broll, but the talking keeps happening, and then it cuts back to the interview footage, YOU'VE BEEN FRANKENBIT.

I've always been curious how much these 'actors' get paid. Or else why would they do it?

>>593731057
Also OP, I went ahead and archived this awesome thread here: https://4archive.org/b/thread/593698536

>>593709845
Those people would have low IQs regardless so exploit the fuck out of everyone. Thats human nature, thats society, and you can't take humanity out of humans.

>>593731057
Hey man, just wanted to say thanks for contributing to the thread. Have a good night! And check out the movies "Whiplash," "Calvary," and "Nightcrawler." My three favorite films of the year.

>>593698536
is dan schneider a pedo

Also there are some shows that require 'experts' to come in, are they actual expert on the subject or just also paid actors?

>>593732201
Why do I get the feeling Mike Rowe is a homo

>>593698536
you guys killed television

>>593731465
You make almost no money the first two seasons. Once you get to season three, you wise up and get an agent, and then get a lot of money. Want to know salary for a specific show?

>>593732408
>television wasn't already dead

>>593732201
Who is Dan Schnieder? Definietly not me, also not a pedo, faggott.

>>593732135
Will do, hopefully my fellow anons can keep the thread alive. I'm sure there are still many questions I didn't think to ask.

>>593732389
Mike Rowe is a fucking badass man. Not gay, not a shitty dude. Haven't worked with him personally, but a lot of friends have. No negative feedback on him.

>>593732228
Experts are usually experts, especially on transactional shows, but also paid, of course.

>>593732408
TELEVISION IS KILL????

>>593732389
mike rowe looks straight
>my inner homo wishes he wasn;t

>>593732588
With regard to the salary, is there a part in the contract that keeps the talent from buying a shit ton of stuff. For example, it wouldn't be the same show if Honey Boo Boo's mom bought them a $600,000 house, or if the guys on Yukon men bought machinery and snow mobiles that DIDN'T break down all the time.

>>593733176
No.

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>>593732721
the dude who probably raped icarly and jamie lynn spears

>>593733534
He would definitely be a top.

>>593733597
Interesting question. Mostly the talent just doesn't make enough money to change their life. With regards to someone like honey boo boo, who makes a lot of money, they most likely have a real house somewhere outside of where they film. I don't know a lot about that particular show.

>>593732588
$$$ not really specific ones. Just looking for range per show/season.
I know the crabbers got extra for obvious product placement.

>>593733795
Sorry, totally misread that. I thought you were saying my name was Dan and I was a Pedo. You know as much about him and his story as I do.

>>593734485
Captains on Catch make 100's of thousands per episode. Thier crews make a couple thousand per episode. Depends on the boat.

Please tell me you have some good Ariel stories from flying wild alaska. She's beautiful

Mike Rowe is aweaome and extremely intelligent.

>>593734485
Average primary talent for a first season cable show makes only 3-6k per episode.

>>593734513
is this real?

>>593734790
Ariel lives in LA and wants to be an actress. She's minorly slutty. Her hot sister is a mega slut in AK and would frequently disappear on benders while we were filming episodes. We'd find her somewhere in her panties covered in vomit, I shit you not. Eskimo girls are pretty fucked.

>>593734300
Well darn, you'd hope they would at least be able to afford a decne snow mobile. Thanks for answering all my questions OP. Now I'm actually heading to bed for real cause I've got Thermodynamics in the morning.

Night all, keep the thread alive. I've re-archived it at https://4archive.org/b/thread/593698536

And I'll check out those movies you recommended.

>>593734834
Even those backwoods that just moved to Alaska with their litter of whacked out kids?

>>593698536
For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his soul?

>>593735170
Even less. Couple K per episode. But some help with trying to live their shitty existence. Tools, machines, meat, etc.

>>593735419
I'M GETTING A HEAD RUB AND I'M ABOUT TO GO EAT SOME PHO THE PROFIT IS GRAND

>>593735102
Yes, but they edited a bra over her before it actually aired

>>593735124
Thanks /b/ro, I'm gonna get out of here too. OP OUT. Thanks for the fun thread everyone.