I have a question for Atheists. How can you believe with 100%

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Because an afterlife is for the normies

>>591950079
Oh boy, here we go again. Why do you care? Arnt you just supposed to be happy with your faith? Quit trying to figure things out asshole. You're never gonna get the answer you are looking for. Peace and chicken grease

I dont know 100%, I know maybe like 80-90%. I just dont identify myself as an agnostic because every single agnostic ive seen on here is some preachy faggot that takes pride in the face that they bailed out of the race.

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>>591950079
Only amereifats and muslims enjoy this topic - europeans dealt with subject during the enlightenment.

OP if you are not a troll we can have a conversation about it.

I am 100% certain the God depicted in the bible or any other religious scriptures is in fact, not real. Whether or not there is a god, I don't know. There isn't any logical evidence supporting it. But I don't think I'll be punished for not believing in him if he does exist.

>>591950079

The burden of proof lies with the original claim (that there is/are a deity/several deities).
Atheists just don't see the proof and reject the claim, much like one would do with faeries and unicorns..

>>591950079

There's no reason to believe in the first place except because we trusted our parents when they told our feeble minds about god.

As gentlesir Dawkins points out, the same reason you do not believe in the flying spaghetti monster, the tooth fairy, and Mohammad is the same reason atheists don't believe in god: there is no evidence and it's a silly, implausible story.

If bait, 8/10.

"the burden of proof lies not on the atheist to disprove the existence of God but on the theist to provide a rationale for theism"

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>>591950079

There is just no logical reason for a god to exist, and everytime new knowledge about our universe is found it contradicts with the idea of a god.

tl:dr
I dont have 100% proof there is no god, but there is just no logical reason for a god to exist.

>>591950079

Just because I don't believe in your god (I mean, come on. It isn't even good fiction) doesn't mean I believe there's nothing out there.

Religion is stupid, but the universe is vast and mysterious.

>>591950079
>"there is no proof that he does not exist"
There is also no proof that the Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't exist.

There is no proof that anything does not exist.

>>591950079

>atheists are 100%

is that a thing? i mean i wouldnt call me agnostic, but i wouldnt say im 100% sure. its not about sure.

i feel a lot of religious peopel arent 100% sure either. otherwise they'd probably follow the rules more strictly.

i just dont really subscribe to anything

>>591950079
>how can I troll everyone without seeming completely retarded
also burden of pudding lies with the initial claim of a greater being, just like claiming air exists there have to be methods of explanation that can be backed scientifically

>>591950701
Well, good work on gradually becoming majority Muslim, I guess. Have fun seeing Yurop divided by that shit again.

>>591950079
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

Also, nobody said atheists are 100% certain, they simply do not believe in any god or gods

If there was a god then who made god or is there a never ending god loop of gods making gods who make the world
Your mind is fucked now
I win
Religion is bullshit
Especially you islam

>>591950079
a jew at Auschwitz once wrote on the wall "A god who would let this happen is not a god i would want to worship"

those words changed me.

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>>591950079
Someone doesn't understand the chain of argument. Someone at one point submitted a claim that they thought up, that we were poofed into existence magically by a superior being, and we've not seen any proof yet. Ergo, you can disregard the argument without proof, since it was submitted without proof. If I saw proof, you bet your ass I'd be on the alahuakbar bandwagon.

>>591951444
>Also, nobody said atheists are 100% certain
That's part of the definition.
Otherwise it's called being agnostic and it's really faggy.

>>591951670
>Especially you islam
lold. seriously how does anyone that isnt a complete retard pick that one

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>>591950079
Africa exists/10

/thread

>>591950079
Nobody ever is and Nobody will ever care because it will never ever matter in the grand scheme of things. Instead of trying to screw with everyone's tits why don't you ask yourself why you do it?
take care brush your hair

You can't prove something doesn't exist, that's a logical fallacy. But let me put it to you this way.

>There could be a tiny teacup orbiting the sun between jupiter and saturn

I have absolutely no way of proving that teacup does not exist. But just because I cannot prove it does not exist, does it make it even remotely probable that it does?

>>591951849

>if its not 100% you are suddenly agnostic

no. agnosticism is saying "there could be, i dont know". being atheist is simply not believing. its not 100% certainty for no reason. its simply not believing.

if you are born into a non-religious family oyu are not suddenly 100% certain there is no god. you just were never raised with one so dont believe. this doesnt make you agnostic suddenly.

>>591952002
elaborate

How can you believe with 100% certainty that there is no rainbow turbodick inside the Sun when there is no proof that there isn't?

Nice troll thread. 0/10

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>>591950079

Desu has more of a chance into being then your shit posting this 4 times a day topic desu

You're right. I don't claim to speak for others, but I don't claim with 100% certainty that god does not exist. No atheist worth their salt would claim that. I could only be really certain, and it wouldn't bother me too much if theists didn't claim 100% that god exists. That's equally closed minded but in a different way.

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>>591952112
>this

>>591950079
Fucking retard having proof that something doesn't exist means it does because you have proof of it. You can't prove anything doesn't exist. Stop being a fag and go an hero

>>591950079
>How can you believe with 100% certainty that there is no God when there is no proof that he does not exist?

The same way you believe with 100% certainty that there is no magical, invisible unicorn in your backyard despite there being no proof that it doesn't exist.

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>>591952265
The inherent issue is believing with 100% certainty lacks the belief of being theists with 100% and an atheist with 100% uncertainty with a belief to be a 100% claim that god is 100% real

>>591952290

ugh that is such a stupid argument.

I'm not saying he absolutely doesn't exist, I'm saying I don't believe he exists. See where I'm going?

I can't say with 100% certainty that he doesn't. But until there is proof that he does, I'm gonna believe that he doesn't.

Also, he who makes the positive claim must provide the evidence.

>>591950079

Because you're eye aren't real

>>591952470
if you want to sound smart and funny you need more RAW

>>591950230
I want to be extra spoopy when I die.

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>>591950079

>>591952708
they make them under freezing conditions and the 'caramel' is actually a thick syrup.

>>591952494
the image or the agnostic. i for one am tired of hearing the holier than thou speech from agnostics. woopdy doo you studied less than me and flipped it into modesty.

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>ITT: people that don't understand this

>>591952643
where are you from?

>>591951719
holy shit

>>591952290
I love you, man. Kiss meeeee.

>>591952875
>you studied less than me and flipped it into modesty.
ah, and that is why you fall short 10 out of 10 times. You simply can't come to terms with a valid argument to the point where you misinterpret its message into a condescending one.

>>591952906
East coast of the US. Why?

>>591952905
You wouldn't believe how much time would be saved if people just understood this concept. All these people going "well I'm an agnostic because you can't prove either way."

>>591952962
nice one, but remember. Religion doesn't make you unintelligent and Atheism doesn't make you smart.

>>591953118
what valid argument? all you said was this is stupid and gave no reason.

>>591952290
>Yes
>No
>It is something you can neither prove nor disprove, arguing yes or no would be ignorant.

>>591953233
>Religion doesn't make you unintelligent
Actually it's a reason for our self destruction under the guise that it's 'God's Word' but go on..

>>591952829
/thread

>>591953128
I often get the impression that internet atheists are often from northern Europe and other already atheistic countries.

>>591952290
Thank you. I fucking hate it when people say you need to be agnostic to be rational.

>>591950079
If there was a god then why did god allow the catholic church members rape children then allow the church to cover it up????

I have a question for Christians. How can you believe with 100% certainty that there is a God when there is no proof that he exists? That doesn't seem like a very logical, open minded and scientific way to view the world. It seems more like your beliefs are being dictated by your emotions and not on facts (just like all religions).

>>591953488
youre implying a 50/50 chance which is ignorant. rusells teapot has less than a percent of a chance of existing an omnibenevolent genocidal god has a 0% chance. this isnt complicated

>>591952829
what does this even say wtf lol

>>591952482
That's stupid. The Bible states that God created humans in His image, yes, but it also says that He didn't give humans free will, which we got from the tree of good and bad knowledge. We then later would do horrible shit and He atoned for our sins, not inherit flaws in us, but our sins.

>>591953160
People also act like just because you can't prove either way means each side must then have 50% validity in their mind. Well, no. See >>591952107

>>591953560
>often often

>>591953233
I'm atheist, and this a thousand times over. There are so many people who look at this shit as a fad rather than actually thinking critically.
>>591953488
Arguing anything but no is ignorant, because it is an idea that someone came up with off the top of their head to incorrectly explain how the world works in a fairy tale like fashion.

>>591953233
My friend and I got into an argument about religion because he was trying to tell me about how his school is lying to him about evolution and science and how out of date, old, and untrustworthy science is. everything he couldn't give an answer for was answered with "God powers." Sounds pretty dumb to me

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>>591952482
I came

>>591952875
>i for one am
Red flag alert.
>tired of
Oh boy he's tired of something.
>holier than thou
Insecurity detected.
>woopdy doo
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, form your own argument.
>studied less than me
As to what? There's no measure to compare this with on an individual basis
>flipped it into modesty
It's not about being modest.

>>591953680
see >>591952107

>>591953417
When somebody does that they instantly lose so don't even bother.

>>591953682
Oh yeah, Satan gave us knowledge, and being anything but a sheep in the herd is evil satanism. That's what the bible implies, no?

>>591952482
lol'd hard at 9

>>591952829
/thread

>>591953911
I still don't understand

How can you proof god exists? I dont say there is no god but i dont say there is. We cannot be sure. And what comes to religion or atheism... its totally ok what you belive in but dont force other think like you! Its your own choice what you think is the thruth

>>591953665
Whatever I give as a reason for God to exist, you're going to say that it's illogical nonsense. Just as I would say to you.

If we could only somehow conduct this ecumenism in a civilized way, that would be very nice.

>>591953831
0/10

>>591953673
That isn't implying a 50 percent chance, you're just putting words in my mouth and expressing your own personal beliefs, which is OK, but it's still not an argument.
>>591953782
"Arguing anything but no is ignorant".
That's a terrible ideology.
>incorrectly
your opinion, prove it's not how the world works
>came up with off the top of your head
Highly improbable, most historians would disagree with you.
>fairy tale like fashion
Nit picking.

>>591950079
How can you believe in something that was found in (probably) a story book? There's no proof in that. So in a way we're all at a stalemate.

There no proof there is a god, but there's no proof there isn't. I choose to believe what I think is more logical, and you choose what you think is logical. Religion is basically like taste buds. Some people prefer other things while others avoid those things.

>>591950079
because they are not atheists
they are antichristian

>>591954251
Why does everyone always say you've gotta disprove something? When you propose an idea, you must prove it IS the way the world works, rather than everyone else having to disprove your idea.

>>591954133
Just because you can't prove god doesn't exist doesn't mean it's likely that he does.

>>591954251
fucking trolls. stop posting the shittiest counterarguments on purpose. fuck

>>591951767
Poland savior of Europ.

>>591954233
It's not bait, the first four were satire. A red flag means a warning. You have an overzealous opinion of yourself and don't hesitate to act condescending to others on the basis you know what they're thinking, and are able to speak for an entire group, which in this context is impossible without either being a liar, or an idiot.

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>>591950079

Just pointing out that OP's picture is bullshit.

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>>591954485
Pretty sure he's not even a troll, just an idiot who thinks he's an enlightened paragon of human intelligence.

>>591954438
I understand now but let me ask you this,
if god is such a crazy notion how come so many other people on earth believe in god?

>>591953969
Snake is a funny way to spell Satan.

Saying that the US had no reason to go to Afghanistan after 9/11 is viewed as unpatriotic, no?

Not changing your social media profile pictures to "Je suis Charlie" after the Charlie Hebdo- attacks is seen as supporting Islamists, no?

>>591954485
Sorry?
>shittiest
Okay, then you can refute it.
Wait, you didn't?
Stop posting.
>>591954397
>Why does everyone always say you've gotta disprove something
No that's the thing, if you want to argue that something is not proven, you must show credible evidence of to disprove it, in grade school you learn to back up your arguments with something called evidence, otherwise you are talking out your ass for all anyone cares.

>>591954525
again 0/10

>>591954585
>he's an enlightened paragon of human intelligence.
Is that like an Atheist, or a Christian? Because regardless you're suffering from unwarranted self importance and fear of confrontation.

>>591950079
What are the highlights about being christian anyway?
I don't want to live eternity in a perfect heaven
it sounds boring

>>591954763
Okay, you're baiting me. You got me. 3/10

>>591954724
>Okay, then you can refute it.
i was doing that but i read my post and i realized it sounded like i was explaining things to a 4 year old

>>591952482
>implying that time actually existed before humans
>implying that God feels time in any way
>implying that if a game designer creates the virtual world that can grow trees, he actually plants the trees and waits until they grow up
being this retarded closeminded atheist

>>591954724
Exactly. Which is why religious people are talking out of their ass. When someone submits an idea without evidence, it can be refuted without evidence because of the lack of evidential support. All of religion is an idea submitted on the basis that it has no evidence, and you're supposed to have faith that it's true.

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>>591954632
because other people believed it before them.
>pic related

>>591954724
>you must show credible evidence
exactly what religion has failed to do

>>591954830
>baiting
>excuses

>>591950079
My policy is that science is more accurate than religion. Im fine with people believing that 'god' created life or the big bang or the afterlife because we have no evidence otherwise. just dont go saying god made the world 3000 years ago and put humans on earth in there divine form and whatnot.

>>591954431
I like how this ignores the Middle East, China and other such innovative places and focuses on Europe as the one and only source of inventions and advancements in science

>>591954632
Because people like having an explanation, yet are sometimes too stupid to comprehend actual reasons. Ergo magic.

>>591954632
because ppl are ignorant
ppl will believe anything you tell them if you tell them the right way

look at all the ppl that buy overpriced shit off those QVC shows

>>591954823
if anything hell would be being surrounded by nothing but christians for eternity

>>591954974
>implying that time is some permeating thing and that time doesn't only exist in our limited minds
Time isn't linear, that doesn't mean there's a god.

>>591950079
Proof they do. Now.
Atheist here, science can explain every god-based thing you pull out of your ass

>>591955157
>ppl
>ppl
>ppl

>>591955091
the scientific revolution and industrial revolution started in europe

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>>591950079
How can you believe with 100% certainty that i cant fly when no one is looking. It's on a unfalsifyable hypothosis. So you cant disprove. o ya. this

>>591954990
>idk thats how things are done here?
where is that ever asked where does this image apply
it made me lol tho monkeys beating each other up

>>591950079
well idk about other people, but i'm an atheist because i think the probability of god existing is low. of course i can't prove that he isn't real but you also can't prove he is. so why all the fucking fuss believe what you want. as long as you're not an extremist i don't care what you think.

If there is a god it is of no form that we pitiful humans can have possibly come to fathom, let alone describe in any of these pitiful anthrocentric religions. There may be a creator, but it is not the creator of Abraham or any other earthbound religion. Almost every phenomena we observe points towards chaos and entropy. Earthbound religion is not formed through the same critical thought as most logical things are subject to and hence is not worth the waste of breath in refuting. Cling to what you must, as long as you don't visit harm on others over your ideas.

>>591951767
All this says is that Muslims are so fucking annoying in groups that they literally seem to multiply, to other sane humans, in order to achieve the levels of annoyingness they currently hold.

>>591954990
which only proves that the initial very powerful factor was required. guess you have just almost confirmed that humanity contacted God/gods/aliens in the past and it was such a big event, that is still present nowadays, even though we don't know what happened.

>>591954990
you can justify anything with that reasoning

an*

>>591955162
implying anyone is in heaven if it exists
hell is prolly full to the max

>>591953233
>Religion doesn't make you unintelligent

It does. It suspends critical thinking, creates delusional concepts. The theme for all religions is do not question. Accept. It's glorified lazy thinking.

>>591955261
Where did you go to college to get your english degree?

>>591951767
Fucking disgusting.

Thanks cultural marxism. Enjoy the war.

>>591954724
No. If you say god exists, then you have to prove it because you've made a positive claim.

>>591950079
0/10

>>591955266
Yes, mostly because China had closed its borders and the Arabic world had taken a wrong turn on the road of enlightenment and went down the road of jihad instead. The Chinese and the Arabs also didn't really need steam power or other industrial advancements, they had tradition and slave rorve to do the jobs.

>>591955423
dude i believe in god but not like the bible because its been horribly butched by man

why would god make us then go to hell those were add ons by man we all go to heaven

there was a science experiment once where a lady was sealed in a vacuum and she died and they weighed her before she died and after she died and she lost like 2lbs

idk but i do believe in spirits and we all have souls that go to heaven otherwise why would we be here for?

>>591950079
>I have a question for Atheists. How can you believe with 100% certainty that there is no God when there is no proof that he does not exist? That doesn't seem like a very logical, open minded and scientific way to view the world.
So we have to assume that everything we can't disprove exists?
You can probably see the flaw in that without having me point it out

>>591954724
you can't have evidence of something not existing. If you did, then it would exist because you have evidence of it.

>>591955597
the same can be said about the fucking teapot thing!!

>>591952829
He forget to
*tips fedora*

>>591952290
>I'm silly!
>I make shit analogies!
MSPaint comic- the movie

>>591955742
There isn't a why, I don't understand why some people NEED a why to existence.

>>591955208
time does not exist in the first place
the 'passing of time' is part of this universe only - not even noticeable outside of it (for God).
it's like you are in the movie, but God can just rewind it back and forward
the movie is simple, but a bit bad analogy, because it removed free will.
then you can think of it as a game server that God owns and can access all history, interact with the present, predict the future

>>591955492
I wouldn't say unintelligent, just misinformed. There are some very smart thiests, just not smart enough to toss religion.

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>>591952290

But anon, that's not the updated correct version

>>591955782
Stop repeating this bullshit, it's a terrible argument.

>>591955742
>they weighed her before she died and after she died and she lost like 2lbs
when people die they release their bowels

If god was real why would he allow us to have sin and flaws? Why would he allow flawed people to write the bible and allow people to misinterpret the bible many ways, with multiple languages to be mistranslated?

>>591956027
butthurt agnostic version hahaha

>>591954974
>being this retarded closeminded atheist

Far more believable than anything in the bible.

>>591953682
>implying you can sin if you have no free will

>>591955836
a teapot in space is more believable than an invisible deity that lives in a magical dimension, created everything yet doesn't need a creator, can get a girl pregnant without intercourse, created the earth in 7 days, etc etc

>>591952482

Holy fucking shit, this is amazing.

>>591955968
Why do you assume there's some being outside of time as we perceive it? Why do you assume there's a mind capable of perceiving a world without time? Why do you not see the flaw in thinking there's a creator, but there doesn't have to be a creator of the creator?

>>591954538
retarded
law is all about fighting crimes, without crimes there would be no law needed
atheism is about not caring of religion
what is about fighting religion? oh, antichristianism. there you go. 99% modern atheists = antichristians

>>591955919
>someone makes a point
>responds by saying he is silly and shit without a reason why

You instantly lose when you feel the need to resort to name calling.

>>591955836
You clearly misunderstood the teapot analogy.

>>591955836
Way to completely miss the point.

>>591955742
>otherwise why would we be here for
to live obviously
our ancestors have survived due to survival of the fittest
some people have just used religion to make themselves feel better about doing the wrong shit they do

>>591956242
That's not a point, that's an 'I am silly!' mspaint comic

>>591956122
>implying butthurt
>replying to bait

>>591955969
>just not smart enough to toss religion.

mythology written by goat fuckers and child molesters.

>>591955836
Because you're too thick to get the point, I'll explain. There is no teapot because there's no proof of it, the same way there's no god because there's no proof of it. DO you think there's a teapot orbiting Mars?

>>591956225
richard dawkins was a respected scientist. atheism came second. 100% of antiathiests on 4chan= buthurt theists with bad arguments

>>591956027
But getting rid of religion is helping the human race and contributing
to society. Religious practices quite often is a limiting factor is
scientific advancements.

Also drawing a dumb maymay about the other side of the argument
specifically to make you look smart and others look stupid is the
dumbest thing I've ever seen.

>>591954724
>No that's the thing, if you want to argue that something is not proven, you must show credible evidence of to disprove it, in grade school
they tell you that you have to prove your claim, not that your adversary has to disprove your claim
Stop talking out of your asshole

Nothing in my life experience has given me cause to believe in supernatural entities.

>>591956496
all antichristian 'scientsis' are respected nowadays... among themselves
and to keep this status quo, they ridicule and remove any opponents who are too openminded not to be antichristian.

Do you guys want to do an experiment?
good!

>Interview anybody who says they are christian/or believe in God
>ask them all the same questions about what they believe "believing in God means"
>make sure to interview different sexes, races, religious people, ethnicity
>ask them if they have heard God
>ask them every detail of what they saw/heard/felt

>>591956663
Problem with militant atheism is that they're annoying as fuck, and not helping. Religion is an idea, and no matter what, you can't kill an idea, which sucks for the more cancerous ones.

>>591956706
thats total bullshit ken ham fed you. scientific communities kick unscientific people out. and no unscientific isnt code for religious

obvs that all scriptures are fake. if god exists it's an alien by definition or inter dimensional. if your religious your better off checking UFO boardz than going to church.

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>>591950079

http://youtu.be/swgU1x9T-EY

>>591956706
Anon being scientific isn't a set of beliefs, it's a method

>>591956811
Why have you decided that you can't kill an idea? I think it's perfectly possible. Many ideas that were held in the past are now dead and gone.

>>591950079
No one knows for sure. That's why I'm agnostic.

>>591950079
You make a good point. I call myself agnostic for that very reason. Somewhere in the universe there might for example be a race so advanced that they could be called gods. We have no say of knowing this, therefore it might be true.

>>591956706
>openminded
anyone who takes any word for fact as is
is as ignorant as they come

>>591952290
kek this is dumb AF. How do you even think that proves any sort of point at all?

check >>591956027

This nigga on point^

TLDR: everyones a faggot

>>591957158
Wow you are so smart for taking that unique stance on the situation.

>>591957116
Not entirely. Never entirely. There'll always be people who cling to an idea, and ideas spread faster than wildfire. It's like trying to kill all mosquitoes on earth, or all rats.

>>591957173
But those people aren't gods, they are just advanced...

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>>591956663

Actually religion helps benefit countless of people around the world everyday. It can give people hope, drive, motivation and a sense of belonging. It is an evolutionary mental health regulator that keeps us in check.

>>591950079

Yeah, he's a presumptuous fag. Science isn't there to make blanket statements about what is or isn't true. It verifies hypotheses with actual observation and experimentation. There is no way to do that with God, not to mention that there is no agreed upon definition of what God actually is.

>>591950079
OH YEAH? Well I have a question for Non-Atheists. How can you believe with 100% certainty that there is no Santa Claus* when there is no proof that he does not exist? That doesn't seem like a very logical, open minded and scientific way to view the world. It seems more like your beliefs are being dictated by your emotions and not on facts (just like religious people).
>*Insert any fictional character here

there could be a race of advanced beings who use the word aggnozteek which in thier language means cum guzzling faggot but well never know. so it might be true. ill throw in pascals wager too! its possible only people who call themselves gnostic atheists or panthiests get into heaven. better convert possibly

>>591957307
If they are avanced beyond our imagination, they might be all-knowing and omnipresent therefore classyfing as gods

>>591957411
because he brings us presents
this year I got a new graphics card
how did he know I needed one?

>>591957411
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>>591957173
>morons flooding the thread and hiding the good arguments made by the atheists

>>591950902
Sauce or gtfo.

>>591957500
Pascals wager is a load of bullshit
It's way better to remain neutral and obtain the punishment of the unbeliever than to pray to the wrong god and get punished as a heathen by the other thousand ones

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>>591957595
>good arguments made by the atheists

>>591957595
nigger

>>591957595
omg this seriously. theyre literally restarting the arguments after theyve winded down

>>591952905
Mfw this is a cross.

>>591956987
all you 'scientific' people should be kicked out in the first place
all 'progressive' idiots talking about probability (!) of alien life existence in our and other solar systems - without any data on the density of life even in the nearest surrounding.
about the probability of God's (in)existence (mostly antichristians here)
about multiple universes that cannot be disproved (oh, just like God), do not even pass the Occam's razor test, but are 'so much better' than having to say Universe was _created_ (not to mention that their multiverse must have been created as well).
Giving no fuck about the laws of physics that _rule_ everything in existence, and were created even before any matter. If they do, they talk about it in a way just to disprove need of God (like this is the first purpose of science), and they say that laws of physics can evolve, or be different in different universes. Not noticing that this is just another, more general, law of physics, and still needs (an even more advanced) Creator.
And they are even televised with this crap.
99% of modern scientists are antichristian and they do not even hide it. Face it.

>>591957799
>plus

>>591957683
exactly thats why i flipped it. every antiathiest argument is double edged as fuck

>>591957595

>triggered

>>591957595
Actually this argument is not moronic if you consider the stated facts as everyone is blabbering about.
>Talked about for Eons
>Talked highly of by many adults alike
>Worshiped by a vast following
>Proper name
>Nobody alive has ever seen him
>Recorded logs/history dating back in the days 'proving' he exists


Please examine all the details to a great majority of fictional and non-fictional characters, and you'll see many likenesses to them as well as "God" :/

>>591957504
No. To humans back in caveman times, modern humans would seem like gods in the
way you are suggesting. But we aren't gods, we are just very far advanced. It seems
here that you think of the word god as something different to what I think of it as.

I think God is something that is by definition not natural. Something very advanced is,
natural, but It might not appear that way to someone less advanced.

>>591957339
this

>>591957595
Hahahahahah i call myself agnostic because i cant be completely sure. I function and act like an atheist on all other levels. I have no love for religion at all, christianity held back technology and science for a thousand years. Islam causes war and sadness so on and so on.

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To disprove that god exists is practically impossible. However, why spend an entire life believing in something that there is absolutely no proof of? Prove atheists there is a god, and they shall believe, because atheists need FUCKING EVIDENCE not stories from centuries ago.

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>>591954431
This is so fucking hilarious. During the "Christian Dark Ages" Christians were hiding in sewers underground and being eaten in coliseums by lions.

I'm certain there is no God.

I'm also certain Dawkins is a massive stinky asshole.

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>>591958110
I'm not even religious, but atheists are bigger cancer than even mudshits. Fucking leftist faggots.

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because you fucking cunt science works by its bullshit until proven real not real until proven false

>>591958118
1095=crusades

>>591954431
What unit is "scientific advancement" measured in?

>>591958237
idiot confirmed

>>591958251
Why don't you like atheists? Because the internet wide circlejerk told you not to? Grow up and make decisions by yourself and when you do, be ready to justify them.

And yet with all you're make belief so called 'evidence', you guys still try and deny Jesus, but because we as Christians believe there is more to this world than just science, we believe that the Holy Spirit resides within us, otherwise known as common sense, or a conscious, which has for thousands of years questioned the very basis of atheism, which ironically was derived from what you call a 'fictional' God. The internet has done some amazing things when it comes to communication, but it really does suck that you guys are all blinded by information you recieve and take it for granted. I myself have seen a lot of no believers come to know God, and your whole argument is so repetitive, and has been proven wrong so many times. The religion you know, isn't the religion i know, which is why its hard for you to fathom. All i can do is pray that one day your eyes might be opened for you to see the real truth.

>>591958251
> generalizations
> anecdotal evidence

>>591958068

It's ok to take the side of things you are pretty sure about. I'm pretty sure there are no unicorns, dragons, or leprechauns. No I will take the stance that they do not exist until proven otherwise. If one or all are proven then I will change my stance. I have yet to meet invisible sky people, let alone see any proof. Just sayin' anon.

>>591958324
as munny units that you can weedle up ur arse you bloke ill bloody rek ya mate

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>>591958408
I'm not a sheeple like you. I hate atheists because they're beta faggots justyfying faggotry, immigration, transbullshit and feminism. I fucking hate them with all of my heart.

>>591958408
Because people posted funny pictures of young guys with silly hats being unreasonable

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>>591958412
canttelliftrollorverychristian.jpg

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>>591958333

That's all you have? Really? Logic fail you again?

>>591950079
You can't proof that something doesn't exist you stupid faggot.

>>591958483
u fokken wot m8?

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>>591958544

>sheeple

Autistic conspiracy faggot detected.

>>591958544
>sheeple

Oh I see sorry I didn't realise you were a troll. Please continue on your way don't let me disturb you.

Thats called agnostik, not ateist. Use google, your, failbaiter

>>591958593
arbitrary says something does not exist
no need to look for it then
can easily disprove any evidence just by using the assumption
how convenient
totally scientific...

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i dont think anyone could prove or disprove any type of god. I dont belive because even if there was a plan there is too much suffering to have some all powerful being looking over all of us but even if there was i really dont want to have any part of it

>>591958563
looks like ur mom failed you again ayy lmao

>>591958916
no stupid pic this time?

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>>591958916

>looks like your Mom failed you again, "ayy lmao".

>>591959048
ur moms a stupid pic ayy lmao

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>>591958679
enjoy your faggotry, feminism, gender, immigrants and other transbullshit.

That's why I believe in Voldemort. There's no proof that he really doesn't exist.

>>591958544
>I hate atheists because they're beta faggots justyfying faggotry, immigration, transbullshit and feminism.
So you have no idea what you're talking about and just wildly confusing terms, alright

>>591950079
>I have a question for Atheists. How can you believe with 100% certainty that there is no God when there is no proof that he does not exist? That doesn't seem like a very logical, open minded and scientific way to view the world. It seems more like your beliefs are being dictated by your emotions and not on facts (just like religious people).

>I have a question for religious people. How can you believe with 100% certainty that there is a God when there is no proof that he does exist? That doesn't seem like a very logical, open minded and scientific way to view the world. It seems more like your beliefs are being dictated by your emotions and not on facts (just like religious people).

>>591959122

>Your Mom is a stupid pic, "ayy lmao".

>>591958907
it's not that there isn't a plan
it's that everything was a lie, written by sand niggers and "telephoned" to ignorant person after ignorant person willing to believe hope existed

>>591959087
mfw i'm not even the guy who was debating anything but just decided to stir shit

>mfw it worked

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im an athiest. only cus scientist was taken. bastards

>>591951054
>if pasta
This has been posted at least 5 million times in the last four months alone

>>591959168
Now that you are done being a faggot, could you post some actual reasons you hate atheists.

>>591959212
>So you have no idea what you're talking about and just wildly confusing terms
kek, atheists are all over bullshit i stated in previous posts.

>>591959168
You sound more butthurt than a faggot getting fucked by a nigger.

>>591959303
omg this a million times

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>>591959168

There is that wonderful lack of critical thinking again, thanks for that. Please tell us more about how we are all faggots.

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>>591959303
kek

Op is faggot

>>591959287

I just appreciate the proper spelling and almost complete sentence. Thank you Anon. We can be buds now.

can atheists post some more jpegs please. refilling my hardrive

>>591959420
Atheist means someon who does not believe in the existence of God or maybe gods
All the other shit you listed has absolutely nothing to do with that, you're just making up some stereotype to dislike

>>591959396
They're slaves to their own agenda, just like religiousfaggots. If you really don't believe in any supernatural force in universe, just leave it alone and move on with your life. Don't speak about it, just live freely. Atheists can't do that shit, do they? They're most just edgy children, who don't understand much, but just follow someone. It isn't much different from any religion.

>>591959554
Ok but not in this thread. This thread is for hatred.

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>>591959595

You need reactions? I can oblige.

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>>591959421
>>591959448
>>591959607
Don't forget to tip your fedora.

>>591950079
We are not under any obligation to prove your god's existence, you are, since you are the one asserting that it does exist.
If there is a god that exists, I'm pretty sure its not the vengeful, deceitful, malevolent, sadistic, psychopathic, sexist, homophobic, bigoted, racist, intolerant, hateful, spiteful megalomaniac described in the torah, bible or the koran. God as described in those books is disgusting and warrants no serious consideration, respect or worship by anyone.

I don't exactly see how a God or a multitude of gods are necessary. It seems primitive to me to attribute portions of our reality to a God. If something can't be explained by the technology we have today, then it will be in the future.

There isn't anything wrong with people believing in a higher power for a sense of hope, or to keep their life together. Some people need something like that.

I do have a problem with people blatantly disregarding factual evidence, or shoving their religion down other people's throats, or denying civil rights to another person because of their religion, lifestyle, or beliefs.

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>>591950079
first of all,
to be practical one must act
you cannot act in an uncertain manner
life is heavily uncertain
uncertainty can be converted into a certain action by going on the highest likely outcome
this allows us to act in this heavily uncertain world
as such, believing in things because there is not 100% proof it doesnt exist is impractical
impractical thinking is bad, for obvious reasons

second, I do believe in god, just not the traditional god
I believe that what the bible refers to as god is actually the algorithm which defines how the universe works
its the same thing physics tries to explain
in this sense god does exist, just not so human-like, and not conscious... probably
I dont understand consciousness all that well, so the last one is more speculation than the rest

>>591959607
ime atheists tend to be dem leaning independents. christians ime however have to pick the extremes libtard and repugnican. but thats just me experience. shit varies

>>591959774
Congratulations, you just proved my point.

>>591959743
Go back to reddit you cumstain faggot

>>591959743
>I got btfo
>better spam my favourite maymays
This board is 18+

>>591950079
see the point isn't really about existence of any creator but about all existing religions (especially the major ones: judaism, christianity, islam, hinduism) being wrong, because we know with (and this part is tricky because from a scientifc point of view we cannot say 100% but behind 99% the thick theists see their hope and chance, so lets say) nearly 100% certainty that evolution happened. What "gave" life to Earth doesn't really matter because after that nothing interfered with the natural process -> believing in some sort of a god is understandable, but following any religion is stupid since a man cannot know him and those claims in so called holy books are fake.

Hope this helps. (if you are a theist you may want to read it slowly and even more than once)

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>>591959870
>that fedora rage
Tell your mum to hide all bananans from you.

It doesn't matter if God exists, since the point of religion isn't scientific truth, it's community and moral guidance. That said, I think highly organized religion is a piece of garbage.

>>591950079
That is a very retarded kind of bait.

>>591954431
>your
>advancement

>>591959912
>implying adults 18+ act mature

>>591960010
18 being the mental age one is required to have reached before being allowed to post
That guy sadly failed that threshold

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>>591959943

I don't wear hats, where's your god now?

>>591950230
Proves nothing

>>591959703
i obviously meant athiest shit sir

>>591954632
>if god is such a crazy notion how come so many other people on earth believe in god?


Because of the way the human mind works.

>>591959946
>I think highly organized religion is a piece of garbage
I think I agree with you more than anyone here
I respect kind christians I talk to who are good moral but I tell them aside from that it's just organized control

>>591959661
Atheism is not a religion, and I hate having to point out that I am an atheist in a discussion like this. You shouldn't have to but the only reason people do is obviously to distinguish themselves from theists. That is why It is not the same as religion.

>Don't speak about it, just live freely. Atheists can't do that shit, do they?

Apparently neither can you seeing as you are currently discussing it on the internet.

And so we should be, because like it or not, your beliefs are a major part of being human. It's natural to discuss it.

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>>591960169

well shit... let me change gears.

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>>591960241
>Atheism is not a religion

>>591950079
Look, we don't care whether God or Gods exist or not. What we don't want is some pricks telling us they are in direct communication with him/them and transmit orders...
If I only kept one sentence about the religious teaching I got, it is : God will recognize his own.
And with that, if I'm mistaken in my lack of faith, I'll still be OK, not like the faggots, biggots, who are a shame to their faiths most of the time.
How many death in name of God? You are illogical, if you believe you should start behaving.

>>591959912
>>591959926
For the last fucking time i will answer to you halfbrains.

The only way to live free is free of all that bullshit. Whether it's religion or atheism. They're both methods of manipulation. You don't need to tip fedora or pray to be free. You can just be free from all that stuff and do your own fucking thing. All i can see that atheists like to whine on TV and speak about the same fucking thing over and over again. Who gives a bloody fuck about that? You said that god doesn't exist, leave it. But nooo, we need to fucking talk about it all the time. All Gods that earth has seen throught the ages, weren't really gods, they were advanced races. So instead of wasting time on all that bullshit, we should start pursuing them in space. But no, it's better to fight with each other like children and pretend everything is okay.

>inb4 some retards that still don't understand

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>>591960319
>one of my fav brits
>made me laugh
>never seen this jpeg
thank you

>>591954823
lol yeah okay, you say that now but wait until you're on your deathbed.

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>>591960366

>>591960366
Ok now I know you are trolling. Because no-one, theist or atheist can possibly be that stupid.

>>591951767
I'm looking for the sources and I don't seem to see any.
In Britain the estimated population of Muslims that identify as Muslim and bothered to say as much in the 2011 Census (which is the most recent set of information on a national level on this) was 8.9% up from 4.5% in 2001.

Curious why it's identified as so low just 1 year before hand? And what counts as 'Public's answer'? I don't remember being asked to give my estimation and I'm fairly sure I'm a member of the public...

>>591960376
>What we don't want is
I hate the fuckers who write those "10 minutes in Heaven" bullshit quick cash grab books

>>591956811
>militant atheism

No such thing.

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>>591960441

>>591960467
then I'll die and turn into soil
big whoop
my mom did it 12 years ago