To anyone in charge of OpCharlieHebdo: it’s not about

>>591433512
kek, of course it isnt

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Ok, so what is it about then?

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>>591433512

not that i condone the reaction at all but disrespecting and mocking others doesnt really count as freedom of speech, also, from the name alone you can tell they were fedora faggots

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>>591433512

>>591435096
It’s about fuckers who kill over jokes and drawings. Freedom of speech isn’t under attack unless the government tries to take it away.

>>591435286
Yes, it does. Because if it doesn't, can Islam please fuck off out of Europe? Because they do nothing but disrespect us.

>>591435427
well said !


also, french fag here who is tired about all that shit. come on, 12 dead is just NOTHING.

>>591435286
people are not being mocked. Only ideas and dead prophets are being mocked

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>>591435669
Sandnigger detected.

>>591435372
On est sur M6, pour le hit machine !

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>>591435601

they should imo

but on a side note the charlie hebdo guys still did wrong

>>591435782

thats basically mocking all believers

>>591435669
French fag as well, but people mostly go crazy because these people were pretty much the only ones to actually use freedom of speech in mainstream media. People just don’t realize they could do the same because they’re scared of the backlash.

>>591435427
freedom of speech is under attack in a way!
everything come from drawing made years ago.
you cant say/draw what you want in this world without consequences

>>591435782
Dead prophet weren't peephole

>disrespecting and mocking others doesnt really count as freedom of speech

Howso? Why shouldn't freedom of speech cover disrespecting others?

>>591436300
>dubs say the truth
merci /b/ro, exactement mon avis

>>591436302
>you cant say/draw what you want in this world without consequences
True. Does it have anything to do with freedom of speech? No. You’re still free to say what you want, even when you’re too scared to do so.

>>591436302
There's always consequences for what you do... Positive or negative

>>591433512
there should be no op anything. If any of you fags care about this shit, you'll offer consolation to the families and remember this shit next time someone wants to pass a law saying "so and so can't say such and such"

>>591436246
I don't see anything wrong about making jokes about religious figures in some magazine. If it offends Muslims, they should simply not read it. If it offends socialists, they should not read it.

Otherwise, I want to have some words about the Koran, first.

>>591436302

Are you fucking retarded free speech is about there being no consequences it's about you being free to say what you want.. If you do something inflamatory like piss off the biggest religion in the world of course some fuckers will lose the plot and kill people..
free speech cannot be used as an excuse to be a fucking moron

>>591433512
>>591433512
>: it’s not about freedom of speech.

Technically it's not about freedom of speech, because that term means that your speech is protected from the government. But these muslims barbarians are acting as if they are above the government, serving as judge, jury, and executioner for things they consider to be crimes.

>>591436246

"basically" this is how I know you're full of shit.

they should have thicker skin.
every other religion/ideology is mocked, but only one spreads them with fear.

>>591436666
>SATAN QUADS
>agreed anyway.
>inb4 religious extremists get mad and come kill me

>>591436666
quads with a comment more faggy than OPs

nigger confirmed

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>>591433512

Ha les cons

>>591435286
>fedora faggot
what you know about that nigga?
They were kinda old so you know not used to that whole internet "fedora atheist ebin meme xDDD cringe" thing.
They were actually emblematic of the whole 70s french counter culture, so of course it was shocking on purpose but replace it in the 70s context and it was much more logical, but right now France is turning into a fucking communitarianism society little by little (so more like the US little by little) and it's now totally forbidden to make politically incorrect jokes.
We're regressing in France.
I hope this tragic event will change us back to a true Republic.

>>591436802
Then maybe we should perform attacks as well. I personally wouldn't cry over a few burnt mosques.

>>591436476

for the same reason it doesnt cover slander, harassment, apology for terrorism or any crime, threatening... in my opinion

which is that other people being free shouldnt mean I have to deal with them attacking me (as they say, your freedom ends where my rights begin)

>>591436781

i dont give two shits either and im chistian, but i see how they would feel attacked

>>591436998

>they should have thicker skin.

having thicker skin makes you invulnerable to being offended, but it doesnt change the fact that mocking is wrong, so you didnt even make a point, but im full of shit, k

>>591436300
c'est exactement.
Le dernier vrai bastion du politiquement incorrect
ET QUE PERSONNE NE DISE DIEUDONNE
ce vieil escrot de mes deux

>>591437837
I hope the same for all of Europe. Hopefully more people will vote for non-traditional parties.

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>>591435427
What happens if Muslims decide that TV and Internet is against the will of Allah because it takes away time from people that they could be spending in the mosque? Then is it about free speech? Or shall we ignore it until it is too late?

>MFW you are a fucking idiot who cant connect the dots.

>>591437840

I'm not justifying what they did however if you attack something with a massive following the likelihood is that there'll be nutters in there following... if there's enough nutters then you can guess a few will want to take it into their own hands the editors knew and understood this risk when they ran a picture of mohammed

>>591437881
>i dont give two shits either and im chistian, but i see how they would feel attacked
It's not that I don't get it, it just that I think it's unimportant. Everyone feels offended over shit. I'm sick of people constantly assigning special rights to themselves because they feel offended.

The presence of muslims in my country offends me, yet I haven't gone full Breivik or anything. And despite Breivik, no-one is like "maybe we should listen to what these people want" like they do after Muslims commit some attack.

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>>591435372
mfw

It's about taking the mudslimes out of the dark ages. Other religions killed over their beliefs years ago, yet these cunts still do it. They killed over a fucking drawing, let them continue to do so without repercussions and it won't be long before they start killing over us eating bacon. The only answer is to torture these cunts until they see sense

>>591435286
>2015
>not knowing what satire is

>>591438093
Neither. It’s not about freedom of speech because I don’t have to give a fuck about their decisions, but I can still acknowledge that I might have trouble with extremists. Freedom of speech isn’t the only thing I have to keep safe, right?

>>591438238
True. But people have been calling for a reduction in the number of nutters for years. Namely by curbing immigration. They were part of that effort. And if you don't say you want the nutters gone, there will only be more of them and their shitty ways of life will be accepted.

>>591438654

Curbing immigration works.. so does not letting them buy fucking automatic rifles

>>591438589
So, you're all for it, you just don't want to defend it? Your english is a bit broken.

I propose that we organize here : gralacticaDOTcom

>>591438571

its pseudo-intellectual for mockery

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>>591433512

>>591438354

you are right in a way /b/ro

listening to what they want is basically rewarding terrorism

as i said i dont condone the reaction at all, im against what charlie hebdo did but if i had my way they would be able to do it freely with no consequences for as long as they want, i just wouldnt read it

my point just was that calling deliberate insults freedom of expression is kinda dumb and im sick of hearing that in the media

Satire is a human right. We don't live in the fucking middle ages. Fuck all of you that think that doesn't count as an act of freedom.

>>591439004
Sorry about that. I’m saying it’s not about freedom of speech because I’m not outlawed for telling what I want. But on the other hand, I remain able to be careful if Muslims (or whatever group) decides they should start to kill people who say what they want.

la religion c de la merde /religion is shit

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>>591436246

>>591439143
you must be american

>>591439836

get cancer faggot

>>591440033
arab detected

>>591435427
We follow those who have the power to control us. If someone can simply kill me and get away with it when I draw something then I feel controlled by those who forbid my freedom of drawing what I want to and not by the state that technically allows me to draw whatever the fuck I want to. Ergo, it IS about freedom of speech.

>>591439143
not really.
you can have mockery that isn't satirical
and you can have satire that isn't terrifically abrasive or offensive.

you can parodize without mocking

the two are by no means mutually inclusive

bonjour

>>591440286

it was satire :)

>>591440597
bien

>>591440597
faguette

>>591440597

more like bonsoir

i dont speak french but i know that

ras le bol je v me coucher

>>591440891
bien la famille les amis bien bien

http://www opcharliehebdo com/
is that shit real ?

what the hell is this :
http://www ezanville fr/

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>>591441843
ça va trkl g 2 couz ki st en cavale mais sinon oklm posé

>>591440429
Fact is they won’t get away with it: it’s still murder, they’re not even supposed to own guns, they’re three against the rest of the French (at least)… Whereas a state could remove freedom of speech and only the people would be able to react.

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>>591437881
>other people being free shouldnt mean I have to deal with them attacking me (as they say, your freedom ends where my rights begin)

Hurr durr, I can't deal with people attacking mu points of view so it should be illegal! Die in a fucking fire, Autist.

>>591440869
...and you didn't get killed. did you? My point is i can make fun of whoever the fuck i want to make fun of. in the western civilized world i can even defame someone without getting killed or physically injured. Fucking ignorant fanatics pieces of shit, just out of the paleozoic need to fucking disappear from the world.

>>591437881
>mocking is wrong
No.

If you act like a cunt, you absolutey deserve to be mocked.

If you say stupid things, you absolutey deserve to be mocked.

Basically, if you're being ridiculous, you deserve to be ridiculed.

Your feelings are irrelevant.

>>591442809
Are you dumb ? I mean mocking, insulting or slandering not plain refuting points of view

If i call you a faggot is it ok because i have freedom of speech ?

>>591442684
moi g 2 trou duc' en cavale

>>591442809
Also i didnt even say it should be illegal so ... nice autism

>>591443213
>If i call you a faggot is it ok because i have freedom of speech ?
Have you been to that website, I think it's called 4chan or something?

>>591443692
That 4chin place is full of faggots

>>591443027
But

Someone being ridiculous or stupid are just opinions

Why should I deal with being disrespected based on someone elses opinion of me ?

That being said all i said is that idislike what charlie hebdo did but i dont support the reaction at all

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https://medium.com/@asgharbukhari/charlie-hebdo-this-attack-was-nothing-to-do-with-free-speech-it-was-about-war-26aff1c3e998

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>>591444093
It’s their own opinion, why even care? The worst thing that could happen is everyone starts to disrespect you, in which case you should probably think about yourself.

>>591442877
Actually i think the same way, i think its wrong to mock people obviously but by no means should they react like this, i would just ignore that journal or whatever it was

Unfortunately, though, in the western world there is still no freedom of expression when it comes to actually controversial stuff

>>591444769
Yes there is, otherwise Charlie Hebdo would have been shut down by the law long ago.

These guys just mock islam.and christianity afaik

Oo so edgy

>>591444769
>i think its wrong to mock people obviously
>there is still no freedom of expression
You're part of the problem.

It's no a difficult concept.

>>591445320
They make fun of everything, and were already doing it before your fucking parents were born you dumbfuck.

>>591444769
Yeah because obviously here on /b/ mocking people is a big no-no, we'd never do that. Kill yourself.

Blasphemy is a victimless crime

>>591439836
Nobody stopped them from saying it. They said it. They just died for it.

You can freely call your wife a fat whore every day, but if she leaves you she didn't take away your free speech

>>591437881
Fuck you, you're no Christian.

>>591446362
comparing a wife leaving you with a fucking arab coming in at work a killing you with an ak47 makes no sense

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>>591446903
>A says something to B
>B is offended
>B eventually does something bad to A
B is not infringing A’s freedom of speech.

>>591446903
Not really... Free speech is free speech. It's the ability to say something without your government taking that right away.

Free speech doesn't mean there's no consequences for your actions from another human being. People forget they can be touched...

>>591446102
nice satire

>>591447413
> being this retarded

>>591444206
hahahahaha trop fort !

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I'm just here for the comments.

Oooooh I get it.

They took away their ability to talk more shit in the future, hence they took away their free speech.

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>>591447484
are you guys serious? you mean if i know that someone is gonna kill me if i say something about some fucktard 3rd world fanatics then my freedom of speech is ok?

>>591446240
>>591446088
>>591444639

look guys this will be my last post and i will respond to the three of you at once

im not even a muslim and i condemn what they did

but i dont support charlie hebdo either because they deliberately insulted and disrespected, if i had my way they would still be free to do it, but i dont support it thats all

actually i dont even care about my point i was just going for a debate

bye /b/ros

>>591448015
Freedom of speech doesn't mean you won't have to pay for your words... It only means you have the right to say those words

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c'est çà la France ...

>>591448302
yeah but paying with your life is like negating that freedom isn't it? who wants to die for a comic strip? cmon...

>>591448015
Exactly. Except said fanatic is gonna have a bad time because he killed you, but that’s got nothing to do with your freedom of speech.

>>591433512
They say that the pen is mightier than the sword. Perhaps, but the sword definitely won this round.

>>591448488
No not really. Freedom of speech protects you from the GOVERNMENT talking those rights away. I don't believe those rag heads were Feds.

>>591448488
Who wants to die at all? It’s like negating all your rights!

>>591448377
What does this say? Can you translate?

>>591449060
I'm not saying killing someone is right either. But you also have to respect other people and know the person you're offending.

You're free to make fun of mike tysons lisp, but when he prison fucks you and breaks your jaw, dont run to the constitution to save you. Laws only protect you from people who operate within the law

>>591448794
You're confusing a sword with an AK-47

>>591449643
You're as retarded as Muslim extremists.

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Faggots. Get your Shit together.

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>>591449643
You're confusing the process of civilization with Battle Royale.
You must be from…

>>591449643
You don’t have to respect anything if you’re not afraid of the reaction.

>>591438531
this

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>>591440230
Unleash the Serbs

>>591449643
>Laws only protect you from people who operate within the law
wot?

>>591433512
OpCharlieHebdo is in charge by Anonymous
CharlieHebdo have the right to draw,write , talk freely
Defense of these freedoms is the foundation of Anonymous movement
The end

this "offended" muslim live under a democracy their rights consist mostly on NOT READING SOMETHING THEY DISLIKE

>>591453026
That’s exactly why I want them to notice that these freedoms they want to defend are not being threatened.