ITT: Ask a Quranist Muslim anything >What's a Quranist?

>>591368118

why u smell like horse?

what are your thoughts on anal sex and have you ever given and received it?

taqiyya thing....da fuk is that ?you allknowing sandmonkey

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>>591368118
ALAHH AKBAR

When and what flight will you hijack?

>>591368118
>damnation isn't eternal

well thats because once your soul is burnt to ashes you're no longer in existance, ashes aren't damned

>Aren't you doing that taqiyya thing?
>I am, but not towards non-believers

I smell taqiyya :^)

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why should I care what you have to say?

>>591368118
Why do you feel it necessary to start this thread?

ALLAHU SNACKBAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>591368118
BAIT FOR THE BAIT GOD!

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>>591368118
>>591368708
>taqiyya
Taqiyya is a shia concept, nice try shlomo.

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>>591368118
>>Aren't you doing that taqiyya thing?
>I am

go kill yourself fucking satanist shit

Who gives a shit?

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Fuck your kind and the rest of shitskin sandniggers

Bump for interest. Plus dubs get

>>591368880
He have posted a shii preacher you retarded goy
kekd at the nose btw

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>>591368118
explain honor killings, you dark-ages backwards faggots

>>591368937
^^ this.

Fuck u terrorist.

Think you could give us an explanation about the difference between Sunni and Shia Muslims?

>>591368476

A number of non-Muslim believe that Muslims will lie to gain their trust and destroy them. Actual taqiyya however has more to do with saving oneself rather than destroying others.

>>591368428

Overrated.

>>591368714

You don't have to care. But if you ask an actual question, I will answer.

>>591368726

To show how misguided the mainstream Islam is.

>>591369150
>To show how misguided the mainstream Islam is.
It's easier for us to just hate you all since you don't exactly wear sighs around your necks saying "I believe in honor killings.."

>>591368118
WHy are you muslim?

>>591369086
Honour killings are a cultural issue. I don't feel the need to call out other religions, but India is a good example of where such retarded shit happens and has nothing to do with Muslims

>>591369150
Convince me that islam is the right religion
and
Name five positive things the religion of islam has given western civilization.

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>>591369069
>Quranist
>Shia

It's not the same thing nigger
>>591368937
All the bullshit we did in Middle-East to defend private financial interests backfired on us.
We supported terrorism against the commies, you dumb nigger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9RCFZnWGE0

FUCK MIDDLE EAST FUCK ISLAM WE WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF THAT.
Anyone telling you otherwise is a retarded goy or a JIDF shitter, but be my guest and go die to ragheads in some Middle-East shithole to defend Israel.

>>591369150
>To show how misguided the mainstream Islam is.

What makes you think you are more wise than most other Muslims?
How do you know something that they don't?
Are you calling them stupid?

>>591369150
What about the whole "kill the non-believers" shit that seems to be quoted in almost every religious thread? Does your 'form' of islam believe in this?

What is your view of Sufi? And are all branches of Islam equally valid or acceptable?

>>591368118
I have blonde hair and blue eyes, I live in Texas. I am as white as it gets. I speak Arabic. I have friends from Kuwait who explained Islam to me for over a year. Islam, like most religions is like a salad bar, you can take what you want and leave what you don't yet claim pretty much what you want in the name of interpretation. Get bent, nobody on /b/ cares.

>>591369086

Cultural phenomenon. There's no honor killings in other parts of the Muslim world such as the Southeastern Asia. And no, we're not at fault for the missing planes in this area.

>>591369140

Political reasons. One side wanted Mohammed's friend to be the next leader, the other wants his son-in-law. As such, there was a political divide that lasts until this day. While the core tenets are the same, the rituals slightly vary due to conflicting hadiths.

>>591369269

That is true, and I understand. If I cannot reason with my fellow muslims, maybe I could reason with the non-muslims.

>>591369307

What drew me to Islam is actually a single verse from the Qur'an. "Travel the world and see how God made this world." It was the message that you're supposed to find out about the wonders of this world.

>>591368118

You should rename yourself if you don't identify yourself with the believers of Islam you filthy pig. Else all I'm seeing here is a Muslim pig.

>>591369870
>That is true, and I understand. If I cannot reason with my fellow muslims, maybe I could reason with the non-muslims.
How about you stop being a muslim.. doesn't sound like it's done a whole lot for you. Change your name, stop wearing robes and turbans.. just a thought.

>>591368118
How do you reconcile your innate sense of morality with the Quranic perscription of violence in response to such trasgressions as apostacy and homosexuality?
How do you reconcile any of the Quranic endorsement of violence?

>>591368118
Op what is interaction with traditionalist like for you? Are shias, and Sunnis aggressive towards you, or are they open to hear you out when you speak?

Captcha:figot

>>591370131
>homosexuality is right because it was removed from the list of mental illnesses in the US

10/10 logic.

Apostasy shouldn't be punished by death, blame the salafists/wahhabis revisionist making the laws.
You have to understand that Islam is used as a political tool, for example the house of Saud in Arabia are extremely weak without religion, that's why they have to enforce (ironically) un-Islamic rules to stay in power.

>>591368118
Is quranism viewed by traditional muslims as something like reformed Islam?

>>591369591

For you to be convinced that Islam is the right religion is beyond my scope of power. It's a matter of faith and understandably enough, Islam in general looks pretty shitty right now.

As for 5 positive things, Muslims did help develop the fields of mathematics and physics.

>>591369610

Because the other Muslims are tied to their dogma and they don't dare to question their own religion. I know something they don't because I dared to look in places where I was told not to look. And yes, they are pretty stupid.

>>591369723

Context. It's understandable for anyone to see that it looks violent, but there are different forms of verses in the Qur'an. Some are specific to Mohammed and only Mohammed, some are parables, some are legit commands and some are examples. As for the context of kill the non-believers, it's specific to the time when Mohammed first began to preach and it was more of a call to fight back against their own oppression.

>>591370015

I don't even wear robes and rubans.

>>591370131

That's the hadith. Qur'an doesn't call for violence against the homosexual and apostasy. The Qur'an even states that "There is no compulsion in religion" and even a whole verse dedicated to leaving the non-believers alone.

>>591370610

Some are open to hear me out after I ask simple questions first, while others fear that I might get myself in trouble for my ideas.

why are you a terrorist?

>>591370919

To traditional muslims, we're considered as heretics.

>>591370637
>591370637
Any Religion is a political tool though...

>>591371128
*extremists

>>591371567

No, really. Even to moderate Muslims, we're considered as heretics. It's the kind of shit you'd get disowned for. It's the extremists who will kill you for it.

>>591368118
At what age should a girl be allowed to enter into marriage and have sex?

What sort of mental gymnastics do you practice to square the idea of Muhammad being the best of men, for all times and places, with the fact that he regularly had sex with a nine year old to the point where her hair fell out from stress?

Are there any Muslims who believe in the singular nature of Allah, but don't believe Muhammad was Its prophet?

Are there any Muslims who openly regard Muhammad as a flawed individual?

>>591368914
>Copyright Kimmo Alm
Anon has done his job

>>591371377
It's worse with Islam, they have no centralized authority. You could become an "Imam" and start your own terrorist group, it's literally the easiest way to get power in Middle-East.
And we aren't helping by supporting puppet dictators and alienating the general population.

>>591371739
Not really, it's just that the mainstream views of Islam is the wahhabi version. Most "Muslims" don't follow their religion but they are quick to get outraged, fucking hypocrites.

When Islam wasn't shit Atheists, Jews and Christians were free to roam in Islamic land, they had libraries and universities.
Remember when Islamic scholars reviewed Atheist literature?

>>591368317
This
Also, please kill yourself. You pig fucking piece of shit. Muslim is a Dirt, mud people religion.

>>591368118
I believe that the islam religion is being used by the arab leaders as a means to arm their people in the bloody fight against the oppressing west. If we (the west) left the arabs and the middle east alone then the arabs would leave us alone in return. What i am saying is that religion is just the weapon, not the reasoning. Do you agree / disagree?

>>591371013
wait, saying Muslims helped develop sciences is not the same as saying those sciences were developed due to the Islamic faith!

Can you name 5 things that were given to the world (western or not) that originate from the faith of Islam.

Unless you believe that without your holy book, those muslim astronomers would never look up in the sky.

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>>591368118

>>591368118
>believes in Qur'an
>and only Qur'an
>types a thread on 4chan in English instead of using the glorious language of the Book

Muslim here, OP is a troll

>>591372374
Your stupid is showing

>>591368730
name for my new kebab chain claimed

>>591372403
Not him but you don't understand. The initial version of Islam promoted science and research;

http://taher.freeservers.com/ilm.htm

Then Islam died, then it was "rebooted" in a version called "wahhabism".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_revival

>>591371908

For marriages in general, I'd say late 20's. When they have sex is none of my business.

False hadiths attributed to him makes him look bad. Some argued that she was in fact nineteen years of age.

Yes.

Yes, I do. Well, not too openly around other Muslims that's for sure.

>>591372398

The West is more of a boogeyman, actually. Fear is instilled to control the general population. Even if you somehow manage to leave the Arabs alone, there's still the possibility of false flag attacks by their own hands.

>>591372403

The actual Islamic faith, before everything went to shit, actually promotes understanding of our world. It emphasizes on civil discourse, etiquette, manners.

>>591372403
YOU FUCKING FOOL
saying that Muslims committed terrorist acts isn't the same as saying that those acts were committed to the Islamic faith, yet your entire continent argues that every fucking day

>>591368118
How does goat ass taste?

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>>591368118

besides some mathematics (hasn't changed much), oil that isn't even worth "freedom" and ugly calligraphy what is your contribution to civilisation again?

>>591373777
no

>>591368118
Ok OP I have a question for you.
Do you actually believe in god (or allah) ?

>>591373777
Muslims don't have sex with goats, that's forbidden.
Persians did because they believed it would cure gonorrhea.

>>591368118

tl;dr

Nobody gives a fuck, you goatfucking suicide bomber

>>591373858
faggot, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_European_scientists

CTRL+F = Muslim or Spain

How can you trust blindly the Quran if the profet Muhammad got tricked once by the sheitan with his satanic verses ? How do you know he wasn't fooled anywhere else ?

>>591374060

Yes, I believe in God.

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>>591374183

>>591373479
they were committed as a retaliation to the insults against Islam. It is safe to assume those acts were based on the Islamic faith.

>>591373110
thanx for that. only found things about libraries though. Not saying thats a bad thing, but i am pretty sure the idea of libraries and free access to information predate Islam. But i see the point.

>>591373858
have u been watching Cosmos?

>>591368118
I would say naming your child Mohammad is creating an image of the prophet.

150 milion men/boys are named Mohammad
That will be 300 milion parents that should have fatwas on them.

>>591374213
So, let's pretend I just found out that religion is a mental disease. No cure is possible, the only way to get you out of this shit would be to murder you. What would you say?

Who is the real murder? The stupid guy who believes anything becauses he needs answers for his shitty life OR the guy who wrote the book telling everyone reading it to kill people ?

>>591374205

The whole point of that ordeal was to highlight the fact that Mohammed was only human. He was tricked by those closest to him but in the end, I believe that God took care of him. That is however my own personal faith and belief.

>>591374730

I would say that you might be a sociopath. In this specific circumstance, the real murderer would be you.

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>>591368118
>I'm a gril btw
kek/911
>>>/pol/schwitz

>>591375017
>2015
>being muslim
>saying atheist folks are sociopaths

Also, do you actually believe that the book is written by something that is not human ?

>>591368118
Quranist equals Retard!!!

>>591374730
>telling everyone reading it to kill people ?

This is factually wrong and only based on your terrible reading comprehension and/or exposition to propaganda used to dehumanize Muslims because we are bombing them.

If you try to justify the murder of innocent civilians, you're scum disregard of your religion/race/political party.
Spoiler : you're doing it, you primitive nigger.

>>591374205
I'm not OP, but I share his views.

Another word for faith is trust. When you have faith in the Quran, you trust that it is 100% accurate and is the word of god. The Hadith, however, is the word of man, and a political man at that, written 250+ years after the death of Muhammad, so no, I don't trust the hadith either.

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>>591368118
What do you think about the Islamic revolution started by Khomeini?

>>591375235

I didn't say atheists are sociopaths. I'm saying if you were to kill someone because they believe in their own religion, that's a sign of having sociopath traits.

And yes, sort of.

>>591375570

Horrible thing to had happened. The former is what Islam should look like. A scholar by the name of Muhammad Abduh once said "I went to the West and saw Islam, but no Muslims; I got back to the East and saw Muslims, but not Islam."

>>591375344
tfw I dont. I just cant stand religious people, because they dont think by themselves. All that they say is vernacular bullshit, they just cannot look the world like it really is.

I feel sad for them, because they spread hate and blood around them. I feel sad because they don't give a shit about what other people think, because they admit they dont want to know. They prefer nice tales, because tales are moar comfortable to believe in, I guess.

stop blaming the media, maybe they manipulate the reality to make it look better on tv, thats a job, but they're still manipulating real facts.

>>591368118
In other words you're an apostate and ISIS would chop your head off, given the chance.

If you hate your own religion why not try Christianity

>>591368118
No one cares. Stop blogging. Fuck off.

>>591369591
>>591371013
For a good many centuries, the middle east was the center of culture for the whole eastern world. There are countless contributions to sciences, architecture, art, etc.

>>591376234

By their definition, I would be an apostate. I don't hate my own religion, just the twisted version we have right now. Also, all the love for Christ thing kinda creeps me out. If I had to pick another religion besides this one it would be Buddhism.

>>591368118
What's the best way to keep a knife sharp for beheading?

>>591376094
>stop blaming the media

It's not just the media, you are quick to forget about how Middle-East was destabilized by the proxy cold war, you are quick to forget about all the dictators WE SUPPORT IN THE WEST, you are quick to forget about all the civilian casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan.

This isn't coming out of nowhere because "hurrrr religion is bad", you baby killer apologist.
The truth is, it doesn't matter if you're religious or not, primitive niggers like yourself (disregard of their religion) that keep thinking about killing people instead of doing anything productive are part of the problem.

I seriously hope you're sterile.

Will you come to my town so you can get murdered? The less of you fucking idiots taking up all the air, the better. Muslims are fucked up on a level so bad that it makes autistic, plushie fucking, adult bronies look sane.

>>591376920

Fold your steel 1000 times.