It's soon time for me to settle down and start a family. However, I have a deep fear of my son/daughter coming out as a lgbt. I don't know what the fuck I would do. How would you guys handle this?
Connect with them more. Teach them life lessons. Don't force them to be straight. If you are really that scared of them being lent, you shouldn't be parenting them. Just be a good father, asshole.
I was raised that way. I can't come to terms when accepting homosexuals. It's disgusting to see a teenager or a man wear a dress and proudly flaunt it around. It's disgusting.
What if it just happens out of the blue? They read some shitty article on the internet and do what every other fag on tumblr does. I'm scared out outside influences of brainwashing my kid
My brother came out as gay and I was like whatever. My mother and uncle were uneasy, but my grandparents were accepting which was unexpected. He's not a flamer, but he is fruity; we could tell for a while. His dad is a semi-famous hairstylist so it was somewhat expected that he come out more colorful than normal. If I had a kid that was lgbt I'd be ok, as long as they didn't get pissed off that I didn't have much of a reaction because they were doing it for attention. I pray that they wouldn't do it for attention.
Tl;dr: if you're not a hairstylist, it'll be fine if you don't want a lgbt kid, but it's really no big deal anyways
Why is it such a struggle for you to accept the fact the reason you were promoted to believe that is because of religion, solely religion.
You do understand social change is happening in mass and although i don't support everything you see in the LGBT community, those people do have the right to live a normal life like everyone else, regardless of "stop liking what i don't like".
Social change will only continue to progress as each generation is born, i hope you're ready.
Best thing you can do for your son/daughter is raise him right, teach him right from wrong, and steer him away from any form of religion unless he himself decides to act on it and believe in God.
Just because someone turn out gay/bi/trans doesn't mean anything, i personally know quite a few in the city i live in and you wouldn't be able to tell them apart from ANYONE else you know, they don't act the stereotype at all, in reality most don't.
> I have a deep fear of my son/daughter coming out as a lgbt
I have a feeling that how you project your sexual insecurities might end up driving your son or daughter towards homosexuality.
Actively fearing it, or doing something as retarded as saying "as long as you're not one of those weird gays" is instantly going to shunt them towards subversion.
Homosexuality isn't evil or weird or whatever. You might have noticed a good number of gay guys are 'weirdly normal' - they like dick. That's it.
Fact is you need to raise your child properly regardless of their leaning in sexuality, politics, whatever. Give them the tools to make a well-informed, open choice, and be aware of your own bias. You might learn something about yourself, y'know?
I didn't say you were religious bub, i said thats why you were indoctrinated to be taught what you were taught, is because of religion.
Maybe you should take your head out of your ass.
It's a choice, no matter what any genetic expert says.
Just raise them as a heterosexual, rewarding normal behavior.
Don't buy into this faggot uprising.
Nah m8 you're trying to force your own argument against religion when you haven't got any evidence that OP's bias stems from it.
You might be right, but nigga you're just trying to rail on religiousfags.
Woah, being gay doesn't immediately make them a dress wearing faggot. If raised right you could easily have a son or daughter whose gay without even being able to tell. Good gay, I suppose.
I have a little over 87k in the bank right now.
I will personally give you $2,000 if you can get OP to prove without a shadow of a doubt, his parents weren't heavily religious at some point in their life which lead them to push their anti-gay belief on their son.
I never said OP is religious, but there is no doubt his parents were, and his parents taught him their beliefs and here he is saying he will disown his child if he turns out different then he is.
Not give a fuck because we're all weird? Who cares you nigger. You've never paid a bill in your life if this is the kind of shit you're worried about faggot.
You should be more worried about your kids being the dead weight of society like yourself than being gay.
I wouldn't mind my son or daughter being lgbt. Now if my son was a brony I'd probably have to take him to the back and drown him.
Can you not fathom that being queer is not normal? Religious or not a mans ass it not a orifice designed to accept cock. It has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with biology.
Nature does not need homosexuals. It's even against Darwinism, violating/not aiding the two motives of an organism:
Gays choose their lifestyle. They just don't have the courage to admit it's a choice or mental illness.
>in most cultures
>implying the right thing to do is the most common
My statements stand. It's COMPLETELY cultural having an aversion to homosexuality or any other completely natural human behavior. Congrats faggot, ur opinions are based on brainwashed KKK bigotry. You are the water frog. Nigger.
I feel ya OP, not sure what I would do if my son turned out to be gay. I'd still love him and shit, but I wouldn't want him sharing my last name, inheriting the family money or any of that.
That shit made me smile, thanks anon. U just made my day : )
>son/daughter coming out as a lgbt
make sure you expose your child in utero to as many endochrine disrupting chemicals you can possibly think of; parabens, soy extract, ethyl esters, BPA, phthalates, chemical plasticizers anything that will hijack their sexual development towards femininity then you can guarantee you'll have a faggot son
You mean all cultures. You cant have a culture where everyone is gay because IT WILL CEASE TO EXIST after a generation. You fucking faggots need to understand what you are doing literally goes against the laws of nature, it makes as much sense as bestiality.
>implying not giving a fuck about someone's sexuality is a new thing
Go pick up some dead bodies and tell me how much you care if they're gay or not. Ur worm food anon, get over it.
you're not ready faggot
you still carry all the strawmen that our great great grandfathers created.
you can see where that led us in the past.
time to get yourself used to the specter of the future, and the present reality. until then don't even think of reproducing.
FWIW; i don't like it either, but i have the balls to try and at least superficially accept it.
>can't have a culture where everyone is gay
Do go on anon. You're getting good at this or do you not realize what that word "culture" means.
>you fucking faggots
Eh I'm not gay anon unless you're just calling me a faggot for faggotry's sake then ok, yah got me.
>Laws of nature
Oh ok, laws of nature, of course.
I once have a Yale psychology teacher with doctorate told me that lgbt are made no born and it was because we as society are liberal shits that think lgbt is normal she told me that you should I force role models as early as you can but not aggressively because then you can traumatize your little faggot you can go fishing and teach him dud stuff and nOw him feel secure of being an alpha with out being an asshole dad
I get what culture is, I guess I was speaking about culture that is seen as normal, that is societal culture that shapes and defines groups of people as a whole.
I think you will agree that many of those cultures would be considered a fringe element and not something that is seen as mainstream
raise them right. since there is no gene for sexuality, it must be a social construct. nature/nurture. if your son turns gay its because it was allowed to happen. possibly even encouraged.
>mfw can't even tell the trolls from the actual retards anymore
Don't get kids if you are scared they might turn out gay. And yes, it is genetical and not something caused solely by their environment.
Smells like appeal to authority bro. You're not going to corroborate that? Fact check it? Subject it to adequate critical attack like everything?
You went to Yale, and you just accept what you're told? I don't buy that.
>since there is no gene for sexuality
Stop talking shit you dumb fucking cunt, it's very obvious by now that it's genetical unless you are a stuck-up republican bible-thumping retard who ignores scientific facts.
>It's a choice
that means you came to a crossroads in your life and you said to yourself "hrmm i could suck cocks and take dick in the ass, or i could eat pussy and fuck bitches. what to do. what. to. do."
i woke up one day and it was like someone hit me with a baseball bat upside the head HOLY SHIT GIRLS GOTTA GET ME SOME OF THAT. i never had a decision to make.
>cutlure that is seen as normal
You should learn some sociology shit bro. It's turtles all the way down, no one has the answer. Nothing is normal, not even normal. They're fringe cultures but there are no clear cut lines with humans and their cultural norms. Several Native American groups thought that those who were intersexual had the best life. They could fuck and have kids. It's a completely natural part of life. All this shit that's "normal" and "right" are lines in the sand just begging for the waves of logic and reality to wash them away.
I always thought the idea of buttsex was gross but then I tried with a girl and now I know where gays are coming from, its pretty cool
it sucks, but what if your son ends up like this (webm)?
i 'd be more confused than my dick, but I don't think i 'd be able to hate him
wow, first world problems.
if your child is LGBT, so what? im sure there are things in life that would actually cause you problems anon, and LGBT isnt one of them.
if LGBT child is your biggest fear, you must have a very easy life.
there ya go, faggots. all the human genes are there. find me one that makes a person queer. protip: there isn't one.
im not saying its a choice, but if it looks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck...
Only partly because in several other NA tribes hermaphrodites were used as slaves because they were seen as useless.
Society can only carry on if people fuck and have kids, which is why 99.9% of dominant cultures over the past look down on LGBT people.
Not really just appealing to that she was my favourite teacher and she was very open minded she just told us what she believed even when she respects what everyone do with their genitals
>Society can only carry on if people fuck and have kids, which is why 99.9% of dominant cultures over the past look down on LGBT people.
That conclusion doesn't follow. You can fuck and have kids but still bang members of your own gender in your spare time.
See ancient greece.
>99.9% of dominant cultures
Funny, one of the BEST indicators of a "dominant culture" (which isn't really a thing btw and cringed at in actually studying societies) is which language group ends up absorbing which. A good indication for ur 99.9% of dominant culture shit is the Greeks! That's right, their dudes and chicks fucked each other all the time and yet THEIR culture appears to dominate what is most common and "progressive" now. Same with the Romans (Romanticism lel). SO who are these other 99.9% of cultures that I'm unaware of chief?
Lemme just do that for you.
"Analysis of the descriptive statistics does in fact show a clear majority of older respondents attributing homosexuality to a nonbiological cause, but relative to young respondents, older respondents were more likely to attribute the cause to biology"
"However, even after controlling for these factors, ideology and religiosity emerge as significant predictors. Conservatives are less likely to attribute homosexuality to innate origins whereas liberals are more likely to do so"
>Oh, and a little food for thought.
"If homosexuality is not a personal choice or a result of environmental forces but rather caused by a specific gene, the next step may not be tolerance but intervention"
this shit only matters if ALL of your kids wind up homo
because then your genetics die out, negating the sole reason of procreation
so your best chance is to have as many kids as you can
and impregnate all your daughters yourself
I am, and it's hypocrisy at it's finest, I'm a monster, I know. My (potential) son/daughter can put their junk wherever they want; however, destroying your biological heritage is anathema, it's my tribal man taking over.
"You can put dicks up ur butt but you better be able to throw a spear you queer!"
Not hypocrisy. Being gay and being trans is totally not the same thing.
Trans is a real mental illness, gender identity disorder.
I'd be pissed if my kid was a trans but I think I'll still accept him.
>yeah let's create jobs where contract is to impregnate women
that's the way to progress!
Dis is true. Which means our identification of "gay" and "straight" is... cultural! You're right though I should not have skimmed over that, it's an important piece for us to understand! They would probably have identified as "i fuck a lot" or "i don't fuck so much." But in their gibberish speech of course.
If someone is actually ready to be a parent, they have to be able to accept all odds. Unfortunately, not every family will look like an episode of leave it to beaver.
Also, for the record, your kids kids will know all your weaknesses, including how you're an idiot, before you can even finish reading this.
>tribal shit isn't valid anymoar
Maybe, but I won't deny my past and still being this human animal. Sorry I'm not saying anything bad about homosexuality just giving some honest insight into how I feel. I wouldn't care if my kids didn't have kids, that's ok. I meant my children cutting off their dicks/destroying their bodies.
I will agree with you on that. I have always said that gay as we use it in modern times is relatively new. In times past it was "I just like to fuck dudes occasionally" it had not morphed into this culture of "gay". Fucking a person of the same gender is whatever, but in its current trend it isnt that, its I have to change my lifestyle to show that I want to fuck a mans ass.
I guess I get what you are saying that its societal which is I guess what aggravates me so much. If you wanna be gay be gay, dont adopt some special culture to show how gay you are. I hate gay culture not the act gay.
>because you asked them and you know, right?
>Because pederasty in ancient greece isn't a myth, right?
You were abviously there and you know. Plus there are not steretypical myths that follow every culture, like Scottish being cheap bastards...
And I respect your beliefs, that's cool bro.
>I wouldn't care if my kids didn't have kids, that's ok. I meant my children cutting off their dicks/destroying their bodies
I like you. No homo.
I have a great friend who is studying his doctorate on evolutionary psychology. He's made a cool argument on the current trend of identifying "gay" and "straight" as an evolutionary tactic to exclude those who are "gay" by separating them into their own group. Thus taking them out of the pool of genetic competition. It's pretty good shit, humans are such funny critters!
I like you too anon, maybe a little homo.
I got comfortable with dudes being gay when I had to huddle in a foxhole to keep warm and when I realized that the real men/women of this world will die right next to me to unfuck the stupidity of the world.
Some humans rock, some don't. Today we rock.
Paedophilia is a fascinating social case. We should treat it as a mental disorder and destigmatise it, which prevents it going underground and doing maximum harm.
Instead BURN THEM ALL ARGHHH
Whoops, someone doesn't know how these "fringe" cultures form. There will always be witches, yet there is no such thing as witches. The real "witches" are the ones on the pulpit calling to bring the faggots (le pun) to the fire.
>We should should treat peoples sexual preference as mental disorders
People should fuck whatever gets them off.
Attraction to kids, horses, dead bodies etc. are all perfectly normal.
To each his own.
Saying something is a mental illness just because it doesn't get you off is fucking retarded.
Oh fuck yeah I didn't even notice I got quints.
I think their my first.
This always scares me opening those. Especially when I'm stoned.
Well, it depends if what your fucking has a well-informed choice in the matter.
Distribution of harm, bro. If you want to fuck it, but you're willfully ignoring the moral implications of your actions, you have a problem.
Rape is a prime example. A rational being doesn't see rape as a 'normal' thing.
I wanted grand-kids, but fine, whatever.
As long as they don't do that camp voice, fine, whatever.
Make you fucking mind up.
off to the funny farm with you, pic related
Here's a thing I read from the British psychiatrists association or some shit: everyone is born straight but some are born with the potential to turn gay. They figures out it was environmental influences. I would say if you have a boy, teach him to be a man and involve him in manly things, help him meet little girls to play with and talk to, get him into sports. If you have a girl, teach her to be nice and feminine. Also don't keep then too sexually repressed and but also shelter them from gay propaganda.
It is a choice, also people become gay from outside influences. I've been straight all my life but the other fucking day I fantasised about being in the woman's position and sucking huge black cock cos I watched too much interracial porn (something about gorillas fucking beautiful white women turns me on). I fucking chose to suppress it because the idea of being gay makes me unhappy and I didn't feel bad or unfulfilled at all. It is a fuckingg choice, gays and transvestites are mentally retarded.
>Everyone is born straight but some are born gay
>Everyone is born straight
That's a logical fallacy bro... If everyone is born straight how can some be born gay, unless not all are born straight. It's neither, everyone can be gay and everyone can be straight, no big deal dude...
I know quite a few atheists who are very homophobic. It isn't just religion but many religions can teach it (some pretty conservative ones). It's learned from society, your parents and peers.
>trash they are
Ok, well you should take this piece of "trash" there.
>inb4 nazis were da good
Bitch do you know what I'm even doing? I'm eating steak, carrots, celery and drinking some coffee/water. An orange and an apple too, you had your Wheaties this morning or wat?
Oh fuck that's a good idea. What dat Oscar Wilde be writin'?
>Das right, this dude was gay u faggot /b/. I expose you the truth.
>That's right, ol' Lawrence was super gay.
I'm actually confused how someone can be so upset about someone else being gay. That's what seems illogical to me.
>implying it will end the human race
Ok. I think we NEED all the humans we can get bro because we're fucking shit up pretty badly right now. Why ostracize any group of people who are functioning members of society?
>and then they'll rape every dude in existence
>implying there will be moar gay men because because
I would have no idea how to handle someone saying this to me.
>not letting a penis-caressing nigger
No I'm telling you you SHOULD NOT let the person touch you if you don't want them to. Go for the knees, get the fuck away from the dude. I'm advocating that you should defend yourself.
You SHOULD take an active stance in your personal space and should engage someone in an aggressive manner who is violating that. Especially in a sexual manner. Please take that in every manner possible.
That just further proves his point the sterile guy wont reproduce anymore causing his genes to never join our race
The retard has a chance but they are slim to none homosexuals choose not to procreate thus not being able to pass down there gayness
>pass down there gayness
>pass down gayness
Well ok, sure I guess anon. I dunno if you can pass on gayness. How is it that you think people are determined to be gay exactly...?
I guess these all being men makes me a sexist piece of shit. Whatevs.
>dubs must mean truth
>sees human doing something
>human who sees other human doing something does it too
>human does it too
Oh so it's NOT genetically passed down or it is or what...? I'm confused you're implying its a LEARNED behavior which is interesting.
>takes part in darwinsism
You're talking about "fitness" or the shit we do. The point of this whole thread has been that people fuck each other and that's it. That's how the human race is. It's only our cultural perspective that says it's a good or a bad thing because it's occurs in tons of other animals. Not only that but the lines between male and female can't be drawn in stone, so your sense of alarm at two dudes fucking is stupid. They're not going to randomly grab your dick.
I'll just post a few moar then I'll be done /b/ don't you worry.