Friendly reminder if you're a fat ass that goes to the gym girls are laughing at you.
Thats not true at all lol. Fat people earn respect by going to the gym. Any Gym rat will tell you that. But yes we still make fun..
OP lets see a picture. Being skinny going to the gym is no different then being fat.
ok but theyre making a decision to change it and fix the problem and you know what, depending on how hard they work, in a few months-a few years they're gonna start getting those girls.
If youre a fat ass that goes to the gym, that's mad respect, if youre a skeleton that goes to the gym, that's mad respect.
I used to be skeleton and all the people at my gym would give me tips and shit, and it's been such an amazing process.
Bitches like this deserve no cock, i hope that girl gets pregnant and the guy leaves her dumb ass
well how is he going to get a small ass if he cant go to the gym? you stupid dad fucking whore. you uggly shitfaced going to work as a stripper married to a trucker. tits or stfu you fat fat fat ass !
Where the fuck is this that the dude is wearing jeans at the gym, and that girl is wearing two not gym shirts
Perhaps at first it seems a bit funny watching them sweating the shit out while barely getting to finish the workout. But with time they earn respect OP. Don't be such a fag OP I rather prefer fatties at the gym working his/hes asses off than blocking the entrance to the supermarket.
For anyone who is feeling upset by OP's post. That image was quite famous on social media websites with a negative attitude towards people who make fun of others at gyms. Another thing is that if your friendly to everyone at the gym and give a lot of compliments and motivation (not to many or people will feel uncomfortable), it's very likely that you will receive the same treatment.
it's pretty stupid to do weight training when you're fat. you obviously have no muscle tone and your metabolism is slow. trying to go at a weight machine will only hurt you for a few days and won't change anything in your appearance. the only way to lose weight--which is EASY, if you follow this rule--is to drop down to 800-1200 calories a day for at LEAST THREE WEEKS. you will see NO change as the metabolism adjusts but then you will begin to burn FAT like a motherfucker. it will ooze out around your eyes and that grease will have no flavor but be so salty to your eyes it'll be like burning red fire if you rub it in. your FEET will smell like rotting mango and the same acidity will EAT the bottom of your feet.
i EASILY went from 185 to 155 in less than 2 months, eating a simple salami and cheese sandwich and then a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, while drinking rum and diet cola all day. once you start burning, you fucking BURN it. NO exercise required. i found that i could cross my legs like a skeleton and freaked when i realized that my cheeks had DIMPLES because i was losing weight so FAST.
hitting machines as a lazy fat ass is a bad idea. you can lose 20 lbs of FAT and then start walking like 4 miles a day and only then do you want to start VERY slowly to "build muscles". just hurting yourself like a psycho isn't going to help you lose an ounce.
Holy fucking shit at the amount of people defending him. You guys disgust me. Grow the fuck up he is a fat little cunt I would make fun of him too. It's like 4chan is the home of the pussies now.
Every time i see a fatty at our local gym i have to admit that they have balls of steel. Because thats the spirit that you are willing to change youself
>caring what people think
i get my fat ass on a treadmill all the time at the gym. it doesn't seem to help the weight but i think it keeps me able to walk distances in regular life without getting out of breath or slowing people down.
As a gym goer myself, I can tell you that 95% of the people will respect someone who's fat and trying to change it
Planet Fitness is just feeding off of the misconception that you are being judged but people are mostly going to ignore you. They do this to keep out-of-shape people perpetually out-of-shape by feeding them pizza and bagels and shit right after they work out lol.
I used to be pretty over weight when I was younger, so I started to go to the gym with my brother. One time there was a girl a few years older than me on a treadmill, she saw me and said to her freind (far louder than she thought she was speaking because of the noise of the running machine I think) "Look at that fat guy over there, gross", the only other people in the gym at the time were me and my brother, and he sure as fuck wasn't fat.
I looked over to her and she looked away, I proceeded to ignore her. But that didn't have to last long.
About a minute after she said that she tripped on the treadmill. She went face first on the running deck and got shot off of the back. She stayed down for a good minute, covering her face. I stood and observed, as did my brother, as her friend proceeded to panic and ask if she was OK, flapping around the place like a fish instead of doing anything... well, helpful. She was fine, all that was injured was her pride. She got up and half ran, half hobbled over to the changing rooms where she proceeded to trip over her feet and fall over again, flat on her face. She bounced up right away, in tears, and just stormed out of the place, opposite direction to the changing rooms she had been headed to. I noticed her friend come back in about 20 minutes later and pick up their drinks and their stuff from next to the treadmills. I gave her a little wave.
We never saw them in the gym again.
I think it's possibly one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
The moral of the story: if you're not lifting for the benefit of yourself then don't bother lifting at all.
This bitch is a real cunt.
Who brings their phone into the gym to take pics. Oh wait if you dont check in on facebook no one will know how cool you are.
I hate skanks like this.
Look at this bitches arms.
I bet they smell like butter.
All she knows is cheese curls.
Tits or gtfo.
I'm a gym rat and I love seeing fat people who are hitting the gym and are actually working out. No disrespect at all.
Should change the text to.
>When a girl with medium sized tits thinks a fat guy trying to get healthy has bigger tits than her, but clearly doesn't, but is too much of an air head to realize it and likely enjoys niggers from Ferguson who will now adopt a "Hands up" policy for California shot teenager who wasn't assaulting an officer with a machete, but instead was swatting flies with it around the officer.
This is not a bad idea to lose weight, but it won't work for everyone.
When I lost a bunch of weight (since I was also doing like 20-30 Mins cardio 4-5 times a week) I was eating around 1500 a day.
Also, don't drink alcohol when trying to lose weight. Itll fuck with your metabolism and can slow it down, leading to less than ideal results.
But the weight loss happens fast once you start getting into the fat buring stage. Most people give up before that happens though, unfortunately
>Reminder, if this sort of thing bothers you, your balls haven't dropped yet...
Yeah I agree, if it isn't a one off thing and they are consistently coming and making an effort, then they rock. It is much harder to get in shape then it is to stay in shape so seriously they have earned my respect.
As your resident gym rat, I can tell you that fun being expensed at fat people isn't as common as you would think. For us, making fun of fat people is kind of frowned upon. Its like a genius making fun of a retard, its just not right.
What we do make fun of: People who use the machines wrong, people who use terrible form to try an lift more weight than they should, people who think this is some sort of powerlifting competition, people who use the fucking squat rack for bicep curls and especially people who sit at the same machine and take 3-5 minutes between sets sitting on their phone.
Gym rats hate these people. Fat people just want to better themselves and WE WERE ALL THERE at one point! Much respect.
PS, generally bitches aint nuthin but eye candy. Id much rather work out in a guy only gym to purge their stupidity and machine-hogging
I started to read this thread because I believed OP. It was the reason I didn't go to the gym.
Now, after reading al these nice posts and gym going opinions.. I just submitted at a gym and will go tomorrow.
Fuck you OP. Thank you brothers.
I will earn respect, I will change.
Fuckin right. Liftfag here. You see lots of liftbitches in the gym working out and getting with liftniggers. A couple I know ended up getting pregnant, liftnigger switched gyms and said "aintmybabyyo," girls now trying to find babysitters so they can go lift. Singleliftmoms now. But then white knight white beta barelyliftfags swoop in there and get with them and support. Such fail makes me puke my lift supps.
Well if that ain't the fucking truth.
>Its like a genius making fun of a retard, who's actively reading books and thinking independently
You can and will make it bro, the first steps are tough but once you start getting results the rest is easy mode. AND DON'T PUT YOURSELF DOWN EVER.
Never miss leg day, that's another thing.
Girls are laughing at pretty much everything when there are more than two of them, they're like a fucking pack of hyenas.
So I don't think it should be taken very seriously.
Also >>586756848 /thread
Just because a worthless cumdumpster whore trash is laughing at you doesn't mean shit. I swear american people gives too much value to women, in my country we don't care about whore, we fuck them and kick them back to the kitchen.
I've tried just about everything to lose weight... except diet and exorcise of course.
I cant go to the gym, because i know im too fat and ill look like a fat fool, i need to be fit to start going to the gym.
I tip my fedora for you my fellow redditor
You can go to the gym dumbass, I was 150 kilos once also 6'4" master race.
I'm not only 102 and have fuck all fat on me, just muscle and the ability to sooo much more.
You can do it just don't get sorry for yourself like a dickhead.
as someone who went from 326 down to 240 I can promise you that you are a fucking idiot
heavy people are constantly doing weight training, every single giving thing they do they have weights strapped to them
if you felt me at my max and pushed past the fat I was ripped
so if I did what you are saying, my muscles would have disappeared, and I would have ended up a skinny fag instead of bear mode
so when I lost weight I went and did 45-90 minutes of distributed cardio and coupled it with 45-90 minutes of weight training
do you know how many calories I dropped from consumption? zero
I have 30x times more respect for whales at the gym than the diehard bodybuilding faggots who spend half their week at the gym. I've never seen anyone looking like this get girls at a bar or club.
There is such a thing as overdoing.
Aww she shouldnt be sad about having small boobs.
I like small boobs.
Only diet and exercise work. Get online, get a hold of a good 4-5 day split. Write it down in a small notebook. Take notebook/pen/headphones/fav tunes/take preworkout to gym and do your thing. Concentrate on gains. Remember when you have lotsa fat, lifting will first make you seem fatter because the muscle beneath it is pushing it out. But eventually the muscle will burn off the fat, with good dieting of course (low carb/high clean protein). Stick to it. It takes time. But in a year you'll be buying new smaller sized clothes and feeling awesome, and hopefully addicted to that healthy gym life. GLDM
If you are trying to lose weight you dont need a gym membership because running, push-ups and sit-ups are your best friends. You need a membership if you are building muscle or need to have someone to motivate you to move your ass.
1) Laughing at women who wear makeup at gym
2) Laughing at men who clearly check out other dudes in envy the whole time
3) Women who do nothing more then hold their guys water bottle
4) Women who do nothing more then look for attention or talk to guys.
5) Women who think they're in shape just because they are 16-24 and happen to be thin when in 5 years they'll be fatties.
I laugh at all of those in that order and more.
pic related. I am not in perfect shape but for 6'5 245 I am happy with not getting bigger and not being a tiny bitch.
>fat ass that goes to the gym
>implying you have to go to the gym to get laughed at
Doesn't matter where you are, someone will laugh at you for being fat. So just go to the gym and lose that fat.
then they're fucking stupid cause at least he's doing something with his problem. in a year or two they may be drooling and begging for his cock.
is it just me who respects even the most obese guys who decided to lose the fucking weight? it cant be just me.
General life pro-tip:
Stop giving a single fuck about what anyone thinks.
If you want to be a fat disgusting basement loner for the rest of your one chance at a life? Fine, you go ahead.
Want to make more of it? Go ahead. Be the fat guy every man respects and every girl laughs at in the gym for a couple of months until you're neck deep in pussy.
>metabolism is slow
Don't get sad or embarrassed that people are laughing at you.
Fuck everyone else. Lift and kick people's asses.
>every man respects
There's a reason for that shit.
None of these /fit/fags were just born fit.
People who are successful - in physical health, business and money, academics whatever - respect genuine effort cause they had to put it in themselves at some point and learned the wisdom of humility themselves.
That cackling jackals are just distracting from their insecurity. it's pointless to engage it.
fat people don't just "eat less", their stommach is bigger which means they need to eat more to get full... a faster metabolism which comes from working out is what they need.
I'm with you Anon. When a fat bloke or girl comes into the gym and is genuinely trying I offer help if they don't know how the particular machine works. I have a great respect for those who try.
If they're going to the gym i don't laugh at them, they at least a bit pf my respect cause they want to get it shape.
HOWEVER if i see a fat ass anywhere else i feel absolutely repulsed. They're disgusting human beings.
Actually no nigger.
Weight training will increase your base metabolic rate for 36 hours, increase your muscle mass, which will increase your base metabolism, and has positive effects on your looks, because the mass you build will becone visible once the pounds drop.
Also: going too low in the calories will make your body go jew mode and stop caloric expendature nearly all together, making you lose muscle in stead of fat
Picture related. It's what you'll be getting with that approach
>it's pretty stupid to do weight training when you're fat
Muscle training builds muscle mass, muscle mass burns calories. While I wouldn't suggest it as your only workout, building muscle is very helpful in burning fat and keeping your motivation up. Also, who knows what this dude's situation is, he may not be able to do much cardio due to any number of reasons, so diet and weight training would be perfect.
I'm not one of those tools who use that term to appear like an hypocrite who pretends like I am a caring gentleman who cares about bullshit issues.
I say that I like all tits sizes and don't discriminate. All of the tits sizes are good tits sizes.
ITT everyone getting trolled, do you even internet /b/?
is this what you tell yourself when women don't look at you in the bar to console yourself? bodybuilding is a sport like any other, any serious bodybuilder like the one in your picture isn't doing it for the women you fucking idiot. do you think professional athletes work in their respective sport because they want pussy?
that moment when girls are laughing at OP anyway
That guy doesn't give a fuck what some cardio bunny/ cross fitter trend whore with her starbucks coffee thinks. He knows he's fat, and he's about to work on it.
>going to the gym for bitches
PLus, men aren't emotional little speical snowflakes, you shouldn't be getting your feeling hurt if you're older than 25 and male. That's some female shit.
I'm fat at fuck 5'9 285.. and I go to the gym regularly.
I will give motherfuckers the death stare if they look at me funny, and yes I have embarrassing tits, lmao
But in reality I have gotten nothing but helpful tips and compliments every time someone has talked to me.
Yes I've gotten some funny looks, but those funny looks are given right back only cause the gym is cramped as fuck sometimes and we're all trying not to take another guy's head off by mistake during peak hours.
And even if someone is judging/laughing, so what. I'm too focused on what I'm doing to pay attention, and let's be real as well no one openly laughs at someone else.
How the fuck do you think fat people are supposed to be skinny if all you do is make fun of them for trying? Wtf is wrong with a person who is fat and self-conscious that wants to change their body for obvious reasons? This is why people hate themselves, becauae of assholes like you!
That's the point
The carbohydrates are your immediate energy source, will keep your system going spread out over the day and give you energy for the work out. North of 300 you overdo it and start converting excess to fat.
Meanwhile keep the fat under the threshold. It's used as a substitute and for some side functions, but anything beyond what you actually use gets stored. This is where most fuck up since they just count calories, but calories are an energy representation of all forms of nutrients. You overshoot that barrier and you get a disproportional intake. You get north of 130 or so and you're taking in more fat than you body can physically process regardless of other forms of energy (carb, exces protein) being deprived.
The proteins go to protein structures (muscle) first and then get converted to fats. Should be just over the threshold. Whatever's unused and converted to fats can fall in your buffer, you fall under it and you start losing muscle mass regardless of how much you workout.
I respect any heavy person going to the gym and actually trying to better themselves. They are at least putting in the effort rather than sitting on their ass at home complaining about it.
Also, most of 'those' kind of girls at the gym do one set of five with 5lb weights then go get icecream because they worked SOOOOO hard.
I.e. this dude wants to maintain healthy energy use and fall short of his carbohydrate requirement while not simply adding more fats into his system while he's doing it.
Carbohydrate just under requirement, fat clear under requirement. He'll start burning through his reserves.
Oh and the figures I just quoted come down to 2073 kcal per day.
Soup, /b/. Former Amerifat here.
Here are four tips from a guy who lost, and has kept off 120 pounds.
1) what you're eating is 80% of the battle.
I was too fucking fat to exercise effectively and stick to it. So I changed what I ate. Didn't drink calories. Mustard was my only condiment. Vegetables became my friend. The most important thing this will do is break your body's cravings and bad habits. It will reboot the way you process food.
2) fuck the gym
When you are super fat, two things are true - you are more likely to overdo it, hurting yourself and your ability to sustain a workout routine. Start easy while you adjust to your nutritional changes. Walk a few miles a day. second thing - your body weight is the only weight you need to work. You've got a lot of it, and it will help you burn it off you. No equipment necessary. That said, avoid high Impact exercise at first, because you're fat. If you want an intense workout, find a pool. your weight isn't a factor anymore.
3) be in this for the long haul
You will not fix this overnight. You WILL NOT fix this overnight. Chances are you are fat because of habits that neglect your body. You are not just working out. You are making lifestyle changes. You want to create sustainable permanent behaviors. This is going to KEEP the weight off.
4) you can still drink*
No beer. No calorie laden mixers. Hard liquor only, and if you do drink, it replaces a meal (this has an added benefit of you needing to drink less to get as drunk as you want to be)
*this is obviously risky advice for alcoholics only and isn't necessarily with your health in mind
Bet you lost the weight between your ears, silly fag.
I have respect for people who go to the gym and train right. However, I cannot stand fatties who excuse their obesity by saying, "I've tried dieting. It doesn't work. I've simply come to the conclusion that this is how I am, and I love my body." No shit dieting doesn't work. You should just be eating varied and balanced meals with enough physical exercise. Fat fucks pretend that dieting is the answer because they already know it doesn't work, but at least they can have an excuse for not really putting in any amount of real effort.
Which is just more proof how obnoxious and childish girls are. It takes tremendous effort to break the cycle of sitting and eating and actually change yourself. Fatty there deserves a medal. The Empty Couch.
>obese, huge man boobs
>join gym, ashamed, always cover man boobs with towel
>everyone watches me, laugh at me
two years later
>am one of the strongest guys at the gym
>dont care about towel anymore
Never give up guys
>be over 300 lbs
>find out gf is cheating
>decide fuck this life
>go to gym
>look better though
>i see men and women snikcering at my fat ass on the eliptical/treadmil
>0 fucks given.
>their laughing tells me they were never fat and lost significant weight
>i'm fatter than them and have made a greater physical achievment than them
>they still look better naked though
My fat ass is off to the gym. Peace off faggots.
no fat faggots, not "this"
Fat people are fucking retards. They take up the machines, sit around for 5 minutes after a set for a break, and get in the way
Literally who gives a fuck? Atleast they are making the effor to go to the gym and try to turn their life around. They could stay home and avoid embarrassment and post on 4chan all day sure, but they choose not to. Who gives a shit if some bitch laughs at them? More power to them
Not when you're a superfat. You aren't going to create a sustainable lifestyle if you are dumbassing it. You have to start slow, because all that fucking fat on you can and will be a liability when you start.
Skinnyfag detected lol
Get the fuck out of here
While she laughs the fats lift.
While she takes shower the fats lift.
While she calls her friends to grab after-workout meals.. the fats lift.
>(f)at the end
>Sit around for 5 minutes after a set
Are you fucking retarded? You take a decent break after doing a set so you don't fuck yourself over. Sure some may take a minute or two but over exaggerations get you no where.
This fucking thread raped my faith in humanity. On /b/ of all places. You guys can be fucking awesome sometimes. This is the type of spark that spawns action against shit that's fucked up in the world. I fucking love you guys. And to wrap things up, check em~
Get enough protein and lift heavy, if you have more questions you can go to QTDDTOT (questions that dont deserve their own thread) on /fit/, a lot of help there.
Consistency is key.
Any fat ass with half a brain knows this that why you start working out "rocky 4" style.
That guy behind mr tits seen what she did and knows who she is. He will find her and when he does it'll be in a dark ally and he will brutally rape her for having smaller tits. He will post it on /b/, she will cry, lesson learnt.
Friendly reminder that they laugh at you even more when they see you, 45 years old, 365lbs in public. Depending on how their day is going, a singe of pity may occur, because they know its too late for you to make any positive changes to your health, and, they know that you're living off of socially secured income and foodstamps and thus are not even appealing on a financial basis.
If you're at the gym, starting a routine, maintaining a diet, trying to go somewhere with you're life, they will only be able to laugh at you for so long.
Fat guy here
How should i get started on losing weight? i wanna start diet on 2015
Im patient, i know i wont get skinny in 1 month like those shitty commercials say, but i just need something to get started on
no you dont start in 2015, you start now.
no more alcoholic drinks, cookies, crisps, soda, deep fried food for starters.
2 pieces of fruit every day.
whole grain bread, not white bread.
Yes. Start. Fuck the popular sayings also, you can eat whatever you want and work out regularly to lose weight. Best method,
>alternate between push-ups and sit-ups during commercials on tv, or between matchmaking games.
tl;dr version: Eat less, do more. Hunger pains are going to be a very real part of your life. There's no magic cure for them. You have to be prepared for the effect this is going to have on your mood, as well. Prepare accordingly and try not to push people in your life away because of the misery that's going to come from being constantly hungry.
I know it sounds gay, but, get a dance workout DVD to use privately. Like ZUMBA or billy banks, or some shit. It'll start you down the road to burning fat, if you follow and stick with it.
Once you start to shed some and you feel capable of more than you were before, that's when to get into typical calisthenics. Crunches/squats/push-ups/facing an ottoman backwards and doing dips off of it/brisk walking/jogging at a comfortable pace (no matter how slow you go youre lapping everyone at mcdonald's)
the hardest part, bar none, is going to be maintaining a diet in the beginning. It requires a lot of discipline. Its like telling a chronic masturbator to just keep their hands out of their pants. They have to want a lifestyle change, just about desperately, and see a problem with their behavior, before discipline even becomes a plausible factor in life.
If a male posted the equivalent of this about a female and posted it online there would be a fucking shitstorm about fat shaming, but why don't we ever talk about male fat shaming? It happens moreso than with women even.
because its seriously only teenage girls and insecure guys who worry that they're not as buff as their secret gay crush that spots for them who laugh at anyone trying to improve their lives.
your plate should have more veggies and fiber than meat(but still enough protein to build muscle) and start measuring out your food, what you think is a normal serving is probably double for a regular person.
find out your daily caloric need vs how much you actually eat and try to shave off a few calories every week till they line up
your main goal should be to build muscle, a lot of people quit because they're goal is to go from tub of goo to thin.
buy some weights (avoid crossfit unless you want to fuck up your joints and slow your progress)
your week should be something like 3-4 days muscle training, 2 cardio 1 of rest.
who cares, at least they're trying to lose weight.
There are a lot of fat faggots out there who accept that they're fat and embrace like it's a badge of honor.
Friendly reminder that OP sucks so much dick that he beat his whore mothers dick sucking record of 37 black guys in an alley.
This guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
It is easier to not drink 300 calories or eat a 300 calorie cinnamon bun than it is running 45 minutes of cardio on an elliptical.
Eating is almost all of it.
And you'd be absolutely surprised at what body weight execises can do.
Take it from someone from /fit/. I've gone MWF for 15 months.
I already eat a lot of veggies, and, believe it or not, i almost eat.
The reason why i am fat is because i barely do shit
Working out privately for sure sounds gay, haha, but ill try it
Thanks for the tips, im taking screenshots of your post and lets see how i can work on it
Is /fit/ any decent? or is it a joke like others single-purpose boards like /g/?
Isn't the point of a gym to get fit in the first place ?
Like oh look at that fatty Ha, bitch please at least he's doing something about it.
People such idiots if he's just fat n not doing anything about it people will laugh if he has discipline people will still laugh, Oh ignorant America you amuse me !
You are so fucking dumb. Working out (including lifting weights) is PROACTIVE to getting in shape and losing weight. I was a self defense instructor for 4 years, and my dad was a personal trainer for 5 and a bodybuilder his whole life. What exactly is your experience, aside from being drunk all day long?
normal people care about others' oppinions and live by them. successful people don't give a fuck. that's why this guy is losing weight in a gym instead of sipping mountain dew in his mother's basement
then EVERYONE laughs at you, with tears of pity, when you're shown on TV, after they have to demolish a wall of the house and use a crane to get you out, to a hospital for the stomach-stapling operation before you die.
Yeah sure society's standards today in this century perhaps, if the majority is as shallow as you at least.
I personally don't feel insecure or shallow enough to actually care enough about my appearance like you.
But hey we can't all be non-conformists, Gym's n corporate companies would go to shit then.
gotta have lots of fiber!
then start doing some shit man, even if its some squats and curls when you're bored.
set a goal for yourself with real punishments if you fail to reach it.
ex you can only do 1 set of 10 squats/curls etc try to double it in a week, if you fail no games/tv for 3 days
>I was gonna say no fap, but you should be cutting down on that anyway.
there's no reason you shouldn't have confidence in yourself for starting a proactive fitness routine.
No matter who you are, or, what you do, how blessed you are, someone, somewhere, is going to laugh at you and call you a faggot. Even sincerely believe that they are better than you for their own reasons.
Your life is your responsibility. Take absolute confidence in it, no matter what. Its the things you can change that you choose not to that will haunt you the rest of your life. People can't help if they were not born with attractive facial features, or one arm, and shit like that. You can control your weight, if you want to, however. Even if you like to spend 2/3 of your time in front a computer.
At least he's ten times better than the fat fucks that sit at home on the internet all day and night. He's bettering himself, when he gets cut and bitches like that start wanting his cock, he's just gonna be like "nah bitch go on somewhere". Women are shallow whores, every bit as much as most men are. Fact.