I just wanted you to know that Russia is going to fucking die from hunger in the next year or so. Our economy is very dependent on the american dollar, basically everything we buy is made elsewhere are we dont have anything worthy made in Russia. And recently ( about 2 mounth or so) The exchange rate from RUB(russian currency) to dollars and euros skyrocketed and kept on going up.Two month ago we could buy a dollar for around 34 rubbles. Today it went up to a fucking 83.Today is also the day that i got fired from my job and i can't blade my boss, noone has money at this point.Fuck putin.
x Rubbles per dollar
maybe this one would be more understandable( though the numbers are a bit outdated on this one )
I presume its the value of the dollar against the Ruble.
It dropped 10% a couple of days ago.
If a currency drops 10% in a year, its very bad.
It it drops that much in one day its a disaster.
Kinda like Germany in the 1930s.
Whats odd though is that even though Putin has caused all these problems, his popularity in Russia is higher than ever.
Russians like leaders who shit on them.
Just confirmed it and yeah its pretty fucking bad, that is the result of the ukraine bullshit, every other country says fuck you we aren't going to trade with you and suddenly no one wants your currency, and as a result you can't buy any imports, and your industries break down.
by the way , i tried to exchange some Rubbles that i had into dollars and they just didnt let me.
That's how it works i guess. They dont even let you exchange the fucking useless peaces of paper into something valuable
Thats why smarter individuals in poland are fucking petrified, as we know the only thing worth a single fuck in Russia left is it's army.
Using army might be the only move left for Putin.
What think /b/ro?
>by the way , i tried to exchange some Rubbles that i had into dollars and they just didnt let me.
>That's how it works i guess. They dont even let you exchange the fucking useless peaces of paper into something valuable
I highly recommend getting out of russia of you can (at least temporarily). If the government does things to combat inflation, you are really fucked. Try buy things like gold and silver, and put money in overseas accounts/investments.
Sorry rusky, American reporting in. Wouldn't mind you guys coming over here. Seems like living in russia would give you more common sence than most of the brats here. I'd welcome you all with open arms
How about getting your sorry asses out of Ukraine?
>implying i have money
>invested in RUSS last week
then you must have lost all of your money
i would be happy to get the fuck out of here
but just diving into another country is kinda scary.I have a home here at least.And what about my family, they dont even know english
we have many interpreters here. We have many immigrants who can hardly speak two words of english that do just fine with work. As long as you are willing to learn some basic phrases and treat people kindly you will do well in our workforce
Dirty ruski reporting in. Being from Moscow, I can assure you that anyone with a brain, and a proper job is doing fine. As long as you keep your money in euros and not work as some shitty useless finance vice-extra-technician manager you won't get wiped out. I also don't understand why Europeans and Americans so deeply believe that we are living under some sort of tyranny in here - yes, gay parades are not allowed; but neither is patriotism in Europe or America anymore. Just because you've been taught to believe that two men sticking their dicks up each-others buttholes is perfectly healthy human behavior doesn't mean your society is better than ours.
I do feel really good about all those communists, derzhava-supporters and all the other chauvinists getting what has been coming to them for years but feel really sorry for the regular russians who are getting their butthole flossed once again.
In some workplaces in the UK, English is now the second or third language.
There are some jobs that are only advertised in foreign (EU) countries. English people dont even get the opportunity to apply.
But the person just bought £1000 of rubles when it in free fall.
Sure its low now, but it will be even lower tomorrow. And even lower the day after.
This is about the new sources of energy found by the US. Its not part of a cycle its part of a shift in power now that the US is a huge energy exporter.
yep thats what im thinking too
but even then you dont know when the rubels will go up again...
Safest would be to invest into Gazprom in 2-3 years when the usa oil & gas supply will fall.
Fascist movements shared certain common features, including the veneration of the state, a devotion to a strong leader, and an emphasis on ultranationalism and militarism. Fascism views political violence, war, and imperialism as a means to achieve national rejuvenation, and it asserts that stronger nations have the right to expand their territory by displacing weaker nations.
And now, look at Russia under Putin.
It's been 60 years coming, but they are finally springing the trap!
This is a ruse to get revenge for taking Berlin! Don't fall for it!
I don't read world current events because i'm a single human being with my own problems. I don't have time to keep up with all this stuff.
And do you know why I shouldn't have to keep up with it
Because you guys should have my trust that whatever business and problems you guys have overseas will be fixed by your own hand
But now I guess that won't happen, I guess I have to keep up with current events just in case I need to know i'll get drafted into the amerian army to get shipped over there to save your ass because you can't do it yourself
Regain the influence Russia had during the Cold War, maybe not on a global scale (yet) but definitly in eastern Europe. Especially the neighbouring countries and those with large Russian minorities (Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, etc.)
I hope you will be born in Russia in next life, мафакер.
You're an idiot if you think it's not.
The man is multi billionaire. Name one non corrupt president billionaire.
Sure, there are extra motives like pride and short man syndrome, but in the end, it's about the money
Look up brick nations also Russia and China have been buying tons of gold and I know you anons are like but gold and silver are dropping yea it's called market manipulation plus everyone seems to want to nationalize their gold this days if you don't know what this means look it up. Fuck anons your about to get raped by old bankers and their fiat currancy read anons read
Well, that's what I was thinking. This situation isn't sustainable, and will eventually even out sometime. How would I buy the Rubles though? Can you do this online? With your bank? Exchange office?
Bric lol auto correct puts bricks but yea they have a good idea and most likely will base their currency on hard assets like gold but again the West will never let this happen
yea russians you chose fascism a long time ago the more nationalized u all get the less easy money
but the stronger ur economy will be
putin has long-term outlook he has to resist the leverage players games cause his job is to preserve russian national sovereignty
they won't let me in because i don't have an account. all i wanted was a couple of those cheap candies and to use their bathroom. do you know how hard it is to poop on the street? it's not my fault some of the poop clogged the sink drain. i pushed it as far down the drain as i could.
The money is just a sideshow for him.
During the collapse of the SU, certain men in cetrain positions had the opportunity to become extremely rich. These are the new oligarchs, the russian bilionaires. Putin could have become one too, but he used his position primarily to gain political influence.
Sure, he grabbed some cash along the way. But if money was hise sole interest, he wouldn't have bothered with al the political bullshit. Because getting rich (like his is now) was the easy part.
Hence, politics is his chief motivation and you are retarded
>It it drops that much in one day its a disaster.
not when leveraged speculators are fixing prices with banks to spook corporate into leveraging in case they get swamped and increase their leverage further
So why doesn't Putin simply invade Ukraine and conquer it? The ruble may be shit, but Russia still has a large military and shitloads of nukes that it could use to basically tell NATO to get fucked.
Last thing I heard about Russia was when Putin addressed Parliament. CNN teased me with it and never showed it, but I digress. They said that Russia was about to go into recession while Putin's approval ratings were still above 80%.
pretty much this. Russia is finished as a major world player and has been for some time. there's nothing left for Putin to do except be a filthy Slavic version of Saddam Hussein.
it's a shame Obama won't be president long enough to bring democracy to the Russians. maybe Hillary Clinton will when she's elected.
>while Putin's approval ratings were still above 80%
if i would live in russia, i would praise putin too. because if not -> high risk that the next cigarette you smoke has some polonium in it
Putin DID use it to become one too.
You can't gain political influence without money.
Name one poor politician. (With the exception of.. Croatias? President. That dude is awesome)
Politics plays a part, sure, but it's still the money.
Look at the olympic games. You think that was about national pride? That was about getting his buddies cushy governement building contracts that paid 100 times more than they should have done.
Hey presto, legal money.
they could since they've blown up our leverage at their own expense but they'd have noone to pawn any expenses on now, so yea they could have ukraine too but they would become too poor to maintain cause invasion is expensive
laughable , maybe in 10 years after Russia recognizes its' investment, that's what putins really doing, investing in real economics and shifting focus from keynesianism
Fuck yeah, valves!
It used to be one of only a handfull of products Russia had a monopoly on, because the rest of the world briefly asumed (wrongly) that valves had become inferior. Other countries make them now as well, though.
And about vodka, funny thing is we (the Netherlands) export vodka to Russia. The single most pathetic statistic in existence.
>Russia is finished as a major world player
yea except your forgetting moscow exists and their connects probably made bundles liquidating their leverage and trading it short on the ruble
but lmao USA ! USA! NUKE EVERYONE
yea this reminds me shit has to get fixed
when beurocrats get inbetween europeans and russian caviar and vodka they've gone too far
in fair business practice they should be able to generate some good export ratio on quality vodka and caviar mass produced by itself. russia is sustaining a small population compared to "vodka drinkers"
you fuckin shills need to grow up
gotta say, I love how people hate rusfags better than polishfags. :D
China makes them and there's one factory in the states I believe but Russian valves are the best to run through a guitar amp at least, Chinese ones won't last 3 months and american ones are just made with shitty metals
Did not know that about Russia's vodka though. Russia's doomed
I'm Russian and everything is the same as its used to be... apart from the euro and dollar prices. The cost for food was increased buy 15 rubles but that's like 25cents i think.
Its really not a big deal, the guy that made this thread is a fucking idiot.
well u gotta fix your reporting mechanisms so that we dont have to fund your supports then
yall bitches r getting expensive with ur weak shit
Just wait and see. If policies don't cange drastically, all will go to shit. The exchange rate is extremely important for Russia's economy, because Russia imports... everything. Even vodka.
fat amifag detected
Putin is the reason why Russia is so mighty! Putin is a good leader and 100 times better than and not such fascist which doesn't respect human rights like Obama.
Russia is Iraq 2.0. Prepare your anus for at least a decade of economy crippling sanctions before the West liberates the shit out of you with Shock & Awe democracy.
Guess you filthy slavs should have focused more on building a diverse economy and less on cp production, huh?
You are completely delusional. And i'm not an amerifag, I come from one of the many countries that produces the vodka you people drink to make reality fade away.
Like some other fag said earlier, economics 101
My bets are this guy is gonna storm the palace by 2017.
It's like a full fucking circle, holy shit, ruskies you fucking cool yo.
Russia stops trading USA as a means of protest against their hypocrisy something that whore countries like cough UK, Romania and Poland can't do.
It allows the country to expand in a way to create its own products with out depending on imports from different places.
They can easily eat the road from a different kind of a bitter situation in which the company is a great day and night of the screw up with a few days ago and I will be a good time with you.
The base truth of this matter, regardless of what you read anywhere else, is that Ukraine, a sovereign state after the fall of the Soviet Union, made an agreement to dispose its nuclear arsenal (a smart move considering the now-apparent undercurrent of hostility) in exchange for a written agreement western powers would render them aid if Ukraine's sovereignty was threatened.
It doesn't matter that russian descendants live in eastern ukraine any more than it matters if chinese people live in vietnam or if german people live in america. The lines are drawn. The papers are signed. The west has a contractual obligation to work to defend Ukraine's sovereignty.
We know two things. First, we can't just roll into russia with tanks and planes, because the losses would be too severe for everyone. Second, if we don't feel compelled to uphold contractual agreements, allies will have less confidence in us and future leaders will be less inclined to make agreements with us.
Putin knew all of this. Putin forced our hand on this. Putin knew we'd have to find a way to uphold our end of the contract, but I guess he didn't suspect what lengths we go to fulfill it.
Putin knew. He put his country in this position on a whim, with fraudulent excuses. Now you have to live with his bad decisions. I feel every day like I have to live with my government's bad decisions, but your situation is much worse and I feel for you and your future. I hope it can end soon.
Well, I can imagine the official Russian medias and "Russia today" what they will say, (Russian economy will be good with our leader Putin, please love him, and be slaves for him) and please don't be shocked if you found many slaves, that most of Russian fags are ignorants
We forget something... America has a $17 trillion £10.6 trillion) debt. Those niggers would start a conflict with anyone just to get some money out of war... ISIS... Some how those faggots survive with a debt that big.
Maybe you have a line of credit. Maybe you pay on it regularly and maybe your credit is subsequently extended. America pays its bills and now the credit has become very large. It is a problem we're learning to better work through, but it's not insurmountable and it's not yet crippling.
Free Syrian is still here
Well I can imagine where the Russian money goes... supporting Al-Assad for killing his own people. giving him airplanes and shit
My respect is only for Free Russians ( I don't know any )
dumb comment. no western economy has had the value of its currency halve in the last month. that type of hyper-inflation hasn't been seen since germany's following ww1 war reparations combined with worth stock plummet.
hopefully there is no next world war, and I hope to god nothing is like reaganomics of the 80s.
God damn, you Russkies are brainwashed. Enjoy your heterosexual, bankrupt future
Really, just as Putin forced the West's hand, the West is now forcing Russia's hand. Sure my view isn't perfect, but I see only 3 ends to this.
1. Putin relents and hands Crimea back to Ukraine, along with withdrawing all military (including shadowy pseudo-military) from eastern Ukraine. Western powers will find it in their best interests to release sanctions, restore world economic state closer to what it was at the beginning of 2014 and Russia's gdp will continue to grow again. I think this is the best for everyone.
2. Russian people enter a state of relative insurrection, likely bloody, creating a humanitarian disaster and an identity crisis for one of the largest, most powerful countries in the world. If successful the Russian people ultimately win at terrible cost.
3. War. Russian identity script flips to national socialism and rallying under the call of world "bullying" begins operating as a pariah in association with many rogue states, culminating into a destructive 3rd world war. No one wins.
>yes, gay parades are not allowed; but neither is patriotism in Europe or America anymore
>but neither is patriotism in Europe or America anymore
>neither is patriotism in America
Wut? Did you learn this from Russian television?
>been taught to believe that two men sticking their dicks up each-others buttholes is perfectly healthy
You are missing the point, faggot. Start with looking up "freedom of speech". Also, Russians talking about healthy behavior - topkek.
>United States: 77.4 years male life expectancy. Russia: 62 years.
more like russia isolates domesticates regroups and strengthens their very long-term outlook while the euro fucks itself while ukraine resists what seems alot like a hostile takeover on a national level lest they exchange leverage for more sound monetary policy that could best the euro in competitiveness
This might be what Putin hopes for, but it isn't real. Russia doesn't have the tools or the mechanisms to sustain such a "siege defense". It will just culminate into "3" above.
I am Russian, currently studying in the UK. The whole situation is absolute bollocks, it was bad when rouble fell at first, now it is just hilarious. I don't really know what is Putin's angle in this, I mean even if he captures Ukraine, it still has zero value. Also I don't know what people in Russia think about it, I reckon pigs are already too stupid to understand human speech, least the economy.
You dense motherfucker. Yeah, that's exactly what Russia needs. Another revolution / paradigm shift. God damn it, if anything could devalue their currency more than the present, that would be it.
Btitfag here I have alot of respect for Russians and the things they have done in the world wars it seems to me like America is pissed that putin got his land he wanted so they are now gonna starve you to death for it. i hope your leader acts accordingly and shuts down the gas until this violation of his people is put right
Fortunately there are more insightful, educated, far-seeing people working on the matter than you. It's fun to say thing with which you don't agree are blanketly wrong, but it's another whole animal to demonstrate it. There is no real action, short of a globally destructive tragedy (which would damage any exchange) that's going to set this economic system to its knees. Look, seriously, we just emerged from a tremendous setback and the foundational policies against which you disagree actually cushioned the world economic state and allowed it to rebound.
My first guess was economic warfare against Russia's power base. This sounds like what I was thinking. Why does America need to fuck over Russia? It doesn't fall in line with it's imperialism?
but they do thy have an army and this is definitely accurate. i dont let the political games distract me. maybe u misinterpreted my post . russia can sustain itself without giving up crimea imo they'll keep it until the eurozone restructures because they're the most capable defenders, no transnational official conflict necessary.
europe's putting ukraine down, conveniently right when they threatened to get their shit together favoring russia. what a coincidence.
the economies that are really going to suffer from this are eastern european and ukraine especially, russia will emerge stronger. its national economics.
you keynesian shills need to get real, that shit only works on the continent and in the middle east in relation to oil trade.
no man trillions are piled up, so either someones working for nothing or the only people that are fucked are the ones fucking with unsound business practices facilitated by debt based monetary systems
Russian gold funds aren't that big and are going to shrink soon. But thats not even the point. You're an idiot if you think not all economies are 'paper-based'.
Fuck it, i'm done talking economics with retards like you.
>Why does America need to fuck over Russia?
free money for america, thanks europe have fun with ur political endeavors keep spending up ur cash euros oh and thanks in advance for the free money
basically what it sums up to, we're gonna take free money when other countries are going to hand it out for power because it doesnt really matter anyway . so go and cutback euros and prepare for your next debt shock
the indian ruplee felt as hard as rooskie, so we removing curry too?
Thats what surprises me about it. Russians say they have the strongest army, this is not true, but even if, fair enough, they stand no chance against NATO forces. You know why? Because they are all together, with all their differences the Western world would still stand together, while ruskies have nobody to support them. Well maybe except potato land and best korea.
yeh, that's another matter we need to sort out sometime. maybe if putin quits while he's ahead that can be swept under the rug with monetary reparations instead of a world tribunal.
Do you really think that the russians have shot down the plane in the ukraie?
they publiced a report with over five reasons why russia didnt set this plane on fire. It was verified by germans and netherlands
>Because they are all together, with all their differences the Western world would still stand together
only while you're giving out free money to america and if not there's nothing in it for us and we'll hang you all out to dry
shits real gangster fools brainwashed by keynesian paper
I think a Russian construct maintained by Russian personnel inadvertently destroyed a civilian aircraft, but it would not have happened had Putin not created the environment or circumstances. Putin is ultimately responsible, unless he's going to argue his military is not in his hands or that he's somehow not responsible for the actions of his military...
and saying they're on vacation with high-tech hardware doesn't cut it.
"But other countries do it. Look at errant drone strikes in Pakistan and Afghanistan" ~ you
You're right, and we take responsibility when they happen and immediately suffer political and monetary reparations.
Just give up, the China man is now the master race. Amriki has fallen to it's own self indulgence and Russia is well......fucking Russian.
>You are now aware the Putin is a handpuppet for a cabal of about 10 Russian Billionaires richer, more powerful and far more dirty than any Murikan multinational could ever dream of being.
While fucking over his country. I love dictators. I hope the Russians had fun with their wealth while iy lasted.
To be honest, I don't give a shit. The crap Russia pulled in Ukraine. Besides the average Russian is a jack ass, selfish fucks. The ruined most popular vacation spots in Europe.