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I like the emphasis it puts on the fact that suicide isn't something to be taken lightly. People don't realize the value of a life, regardless of its current & past status. They throw away this invaluable gift like it's trash because they're too full of self-loathing to care to do anything about it.
>"legitimately" >implying 4channers aren't just butthurt over their first world problems ~90% of the time.
okay so I've done the whole mental illness thing and still do. Here's my take on the matter. You're a human being man, maybe you're hurting for whatever reason and it feels like the biggest reason in the world to you, and maybe it is, but you're a human being. Human beings aren't meant to die young and while ever you're alive and on this earth you can do something meaningful either to you or to others so... Why not do that thing?
>no friends and bored all the time getting a job will fix both of those problems. I'm guessing that you have a large amount of social anxiety and that you never have the energy to go out and do anything. But you gotta realize its all in your attitude. I used to hate working too. But now I have a full time job and friends at the job because I decided that if i HAD to be there for 8 hours, I would try to make it fun.
>>582063784 Some people just want to put an end to the suffering, man. I've been there before. And I can't say I'll never return. You gotta realize that everyone has had different lives and different upbringings. You may think of life as a gift but it might be a nightmare for someone else.
>>582063898 That cat is a fucking God. I wish I had that cats balls. I bet he gets Tons of bitches Literal metric tons to Not like, fat bitches, but just so many. I'd fuck that cat But I'd rather let it fuck me >(So sexy) I'd kill for a chance to pet that cat Pic related, this is what the cat thinks It is such a badass I bet it killed a dozen cops before getting arrested Just by looking at them
>>582063207 Totally fucking agree. Unless you have some sort of terminal illness and are doing it to avoid a painful death, you have the ability to change your situation. But no people prefer to sit around and mope about it. I'll admit I've been depressed to the point where suicide was often a thought but looking back I realized how stupid it was and how glad I am I didn't kill myself just because I was being sad about stupid shit.
Of course people will insist their situation is somehow unique, but sorry, it isn't. Yeah, depression sucks. But bite the fucking bullet, give your dumbass emotional cortex time to get the fuck over it, and move on with your life
>>582064573 I know how you feel because I've struggle with social anxiety my entire life and continue to. I never learned any social skills growing up. I was basically raised by a tv set. All it takes is some courage man, and you HAVE to change your attitude about it.
Right now, thinking about putting yourself out there makes you scared as hell and its something you REALLY dont wanna do.
But if you just DO it and QUIT THINKING THOSE THOUGHTS you'll get accustomed to it, itll take time but you will change I can promise you that. Its like a kid who's afraid to jump into a pool and finally just does it and then his fear is gone. If youre at work and around people, instead of thinking "what do i say. do they expect me to say something. do they think im weird for not talking" just quit thinking that shit man. thats where the anxiety comes from.
OP, you do exactly what you KNOW you need to do to get your life back on track. And you man up and fucking do it even though the effort will hurt at first. Keep the momentum and someday you will realize "Hey... looks like I've recovered."
That's the only thing to do.
Now get off /b/ and clean your room, then go to bed early. Get up nice and early tomorrow and do some more shit. Avoid the things you do to comfort or numb yourself, like being on fucking /b/.
>>582064723 Well invite someone over and drink vodka with him. They will like you. Everybody loves a loser. I remember when before my friend got wife and kid how we used to drink all day and night and play old games. It was the stuff of legends. Now i have job and i work during week and drink all weekend. And the weekend is the better part.. so dont tell me its boring because its all i have
>tfw 23 and still basement dwelling >tfw I used to be a perfectly sociable human being but years of isolation have wrecked my social skills >tfw so lonely that I'm drinking alone because my parents are out of town this week and they're basically my only friends
>>582067250 how is that not chill? they drink and dont give a fuck if u do anything with your life or drink all day and even are nice enough to pick u up alcohol without bitching about it.
bro Im gonna tell u this straight. IF you are seriously considering suicide. IF. then there's gotta be a bigger reason than being bored and ugly and no friends and small. Think about dying. People are inherently scared to fucking death of dying. Whether its painless or not. Im about 99% sure youd take the comfort of your mediocre life over death any day.
>>582064705 You're wrong. Every situation is unique. I've been close to suicide. REAL fucking close. To the point that I actually went out and bought the supplies I needed. I was too scared to do it.
I've been through a lot of fucking shit in my life. And I'm not bragging, I'm just stating a fact. I've been through and seen more shit in a year than you probably have in your entire life. So don't sit there and talk shit about something you know nothing about.
>>582068260 I tried partial hanging and almost passed out until I got my hand by my neck to relieve pressure, also took 300mg morphine and 5 percs and drank a fifth of vodka hoping to not wake up, all I got was a nasty hangover
>>582068421 I don't know where to start. Individual stories can't give you the whole picture but one of my biggest fuck ups that haunts me comes to mind.
My sister told me, my best friend, and her ex boyfriend that this guy raped her. To this day I don't know if she was telling the truth or not, but that's beside the points.
So the three of us came up with a scheme. We were going to ask this guy for some weed. He was going to meet us in the parking lot by his apartment building and then her ex-boyfriend was going to jump out from hiding and beat the fuck out of him with a bat.
Well, I decided to drink that day. And I ended up drinking way too much and according to the other two involved I loudly kept saying "HES COMING HES COMING!" and thats why her ex-boyfriend didnt jump out and beat the fuck out of him. So I didnt know what to do. I was standing there talking to the guy pretending to be buying an ounce of weed that i didnt even have the money for. so in my dumbass drunken state of mind I said "I probably left the money at my house" and planned on doing something to him there. so we just fuckin got in the car (me and my friend) and left her ex there
>>582069803 because of the rest of the story and the shame that i feel because of the whole situation. this is nowhere near the worst thing thats ever happened to me but one of the more exciting stories that i have.
Okay so Ill try to finish this story quickly. So me, my friend, and this white guy that my sister claimed raped her are in the car heading to my house for the "supposed money that i forgot"
But what i didnt mention earlier is that she claimed that his friend raped her as well, a black guy, and this will play a part in the story
so anyway, we're all in the car. and my dad's shotgun is in the car too. i'm in the backseat and im holding the shotgun upright to intimidate him or some shit idk. i was drunk and scared and being a pussy. He kept asking what the gun was for and I just said "nothing" or something like that.
we get back to my house. so I'm looking around the house (pretending to look for the weed money) but actually debating on picking up something sharp and stabbing him. I pussied out and didnt. He left.
Then I called the black guy who was involved on the phone and started talking shit. calling him a nigger and blaming him for raping my sister. bla bla bla and saying im gonna kill him. at this point i have a bigass knife in my hand and my other older sister is witnessing all this and tells me to stop and go to bed and put away the knife.
WEEEELLL, months later, i was going somewhere with my mom and driving. We come to a stoplight and I see some nigger behind me making the "cutting throat you're dead" gesture. and I realize its the nigger that I called that night and called a nigger and all kinds of shit. So I'm in the fucking car with my mom who I obviously love and want to protect and there's a nigger behind me who wants to fucking kill me. I fucking start flooring it all around town. he follows me for like ten minutes. I ran several red lights, my mom is freaking out the entire time. The only reason I lost him is because I pulled into the police station.
>>582062938 Just find other people to drink with man! I used to be like you, than I turned me alchohal and drug dependency into a social thing. Now I'm still suicidal but atleast I got friends and pussy...
>>582071587 My sister's ex-boyfriend who was SUPPOSED to jump out and start beating that fucker with a bat was calling me a dumbass and shit because I ruined the plan by being drunk. and I was all ready so pissed and upset about the whole thing. so one night that he was over hanging out I decided I was gonna fuck him up.
I was in my room playing skyrim lol. and I knew he was in the living room hanging out. I took my weed grinder in my hand and decided to go out there and hit him with it. So I went out there and fucking started talking some shit and them fucking hit him over the head with that metal grinder.
he ended up having to get stitched at the hospital lol. he was bleeding pretty bad. the cool part is no one saw the grinder in my hand so they thought I did it with my fist.
to be honest while your stories happen to be funny i see how they could cause suffering if it actually happens to you, but i think its not that bad actually
the first thing is kinda shameful but after all your sister wasnt really raped anyway it seems, and the nigger thing well the fear sucks
the only dangerous thing about it (even now) is if he recognizes you in the street if you have no car and no weapons and he is armed or stronger than you, and you could probably tell him your sister will accuse him of rape if he does anything to you
>>582073462 she was cool with the plan we were gonna do. she was there with us when we talked about. and after that whole thing happened and after I found out she hung out with them again we just didnt talk about it. I never asked her why she hung out with them again.
>>582075180 oh shit, she didnt care. and it was still her ex at the time. they just remained friends. i was friends with him too. but i just couldnt stand the shame of that night and him talking shit about it made it even worse so i just decided i was gonna fucking hit him.
they told the people at the hospital that he got hit on a cabinet corner or some shit like that.
>>582076682 But it gets rid of sadness by making you face your thoughts and then letting them go. They don't disappear but they lessen in intensity when you acknowledge them. Do this over and over and eventually you will have dismantled the thought patterns that fuck you over and replaced them with positive counterparts. Mindfulness is about being aware of your body, your emotions and your thoughts. When you're accustomed to be in this mindset, it'll be easier to make the right choices in any given situation.
>>582078072 dude 24? youre still young. if you actually apply yourself you can get better in a year's time. you just dont want to because you're waaayyy too comfortable living the way you have been. you dont want to change and there is nothing forcing you to change.
also sometimes when the psychological torture is too lasting and intense its no longer so much of a motivation to win but fucks up your willpower, so i see how making it less intense would help, also to make decisions calmly and with a better perspective
you can make your life good, so you should try unless you dont want to which would be very weird
just think about it rationally and do what will get you a brighter tomorrow, your current feelings dont matter, just the strategy that will eventually make you succeed and be happy and actually going through with it even if you hate every second
>>582079295 for real dude. im addicted as fuck. Its probably the only way I get through the work day atm. I keep thinking "wow im gonna get off at 3 and get fucked up and listen to music surf /b/ and play vidya" and that is seriously the most awesome time to me
>>582079035 I've spent years bending over backwards trying to do work to save the world, just to convince myself that I wasn't the horrible person my former classmates had me believe I was. Then I cracked, went down with stress and crippling anxiety. I went on government support and spent about six months trying to figure out my mind while doing my best to survive on meager means. Then I looked up how to unlearn anxiety in relation to stressful environments that weren't really dangerous at all. That went fine and I got a bit of schooling in IT support. Then that stopped and I went back to doing virtually nothing. After a while I got a referral to this phobia school place. And that is where I am currently taking mindfulness meditation classes and speaking with a shrink. Both help a lot, but the mindfulness meditation does most of the work. You basically learn a habit of looking at your thoughts from an objective perspective. It also enables you to feel if anything is wrong with your body, hurt or sore. Pretty neat actually.
>>582081160 1.75 is a standard measurement. this is a "fifth". drinking a fifth of diluted liquor to a normal drinker will get you buzzed. drinking more will get u fucked up. if the liquor is not diluted, however, thats a different story.
actually i wouldnt even give two shits about getting cheated on, i would just drop the girl
idk its just the idea of having that kind of close relationship with someone that is off for me
i never trusted anyone, even my close family is outright shit
at this point i dont know if im the asshole or they are but the thing is that to be able to make my way through this shit (until i can get out of my fucking parents house, im 21 and live with them btw but this is not what it probably sounds like to you, where I live this is expected, its also a poor country where its harder to make a living and get out) I have to be manipulative and cruel and when i was not (eg when i was a kid) i was fucked with a lot
>>582060502 Now don't listen to other faggots here. What you want to do is very simple. If you have opportunity to hang your self than don't just do that. What you want to do is fuck up your surroundings a bit. What you should do is rip out a few of the wires from walls. You tie them up together around your neck, pull down your pants and jump out of the window. That way you should achieve the expected effect from hanging yourself. You get to shit yourself, die and have the hardest erection you'll get in your whole life. What's not to love?
>im 22 and still living with my parents nothing wrong with that even if you live in the usa imo
ya kind of
also the idea of marrying someone that could ruin my life later sounds very crazy, but this probably wont happen when i move out of my parents house for a couple years and relax, im already working my ass of to be able to, also trying to make it so i can peacefully live in here which necessarily involves turning into an unbearable spoiled kid and making them scared of me, since they wont just be nice by themselves, every opportunity i give them results in failure
what is so unbearable about living with my parents (and sister) is a long story but lets just say that i was psychologically abused whether intentionally or not, and although they seem to actually love me after all they are just too selfish, narcissistic and stubborn, and recently something else happened that made it an urgent need to get out. idk maybe sometimes its me too, the thing is my family is very weird and i grew up in it and got used to it so its hard to analyze it with a proper perspective. they are either extremely blind and stupid or outright evil
ty man wish me luck, im gonna go sleep by the way and this thread will be deleted tomorrow so...
by the way a fun fact is that i noticed that my grand mother is just like my mother
they often argue (about dumb shit) and what each of them tells you that happened is completely different and both are 100% certain they are right, they are just completely blind when it comes to considering someone else's feelings kek
and my mother still doesnt realize she does the same, i gave her hints and she didnt get it, and if i literally said it she would go full rage mode and nothing would change anyway
BY THE WAY op dont fucking kill yourself, it would be just dumb, you can be happy if you dont, it being unlikely is not an excuse, the possibility is reason enough to try since suicide just makes you lose it all 100%
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