daily reminder that steel girders dont spontaneusly...
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We already know what happen to WTC7, Damge from the 2 falling WTC and fire..
WTC7 was built straddling a Con-Edison substation. This meant that its walls had to carry a tremendous amount of force and were vulnerable to impact. In addition, WT7 contained numerous fuel tanks for generators, some holding 6000 gallons of fuel, & this contributed to its destruction.
The fall of WT1&2 produced a small earthquake that weakened WT7. More importantly, WTC7 was massively damaged by the large perimeter columns from WTC1. WTC1 was only 400 feet away but was over 1300 ft tall. As the columns peeled away, they hit WTC7. 25% of the WTC7 was scooped out of a hole that stretched up and down 10 stories.
In addition to the debris, at least 6 fires started in WTC7, each of which was described as “large” but there was no water to fight them. The fires were left to burn because the building started to lean and firefighters decided it was too dangerous to enter.
Everyone could see the east side slumping which was absolute proof of steel weakening from the fires, coupled with structural damage.
Then the east side collapsed and pulled the rest of the building with it. Even though the entire world was now watching, no one saw explosives go off, or heard them.
Please tell me this is a troll thread. If not your a stupid fuck op. Before you post stupid truther shit again why don't u ask the original architects of WTC buildings if they had designed it to be able to withstand holding a fucking jetliner on the upper building after destroying some major support beams. The fucking building is made to hold civilians and maybe a helicopter on top.... If something crashed into it it will come down like a fucking building made of toothpicks.
>>581692043 >There was molten steel found WEEKS after the collapse. >ny firemen described it as looking like a FOUNDRY
>thermite or another military grade explosive is the only way this could have happened >thermite makes sense of the three collapses >the official story is not even plausible >people trust the governments official story the way they trust their parents that their god is real and all other religions are wrong >people will believe anything if they unconditionally trust the people talking
>>581693661 >ae911truth.org/ if you interested in knowing why 2,300 architectures and engineers think popular mechanics is full of shit. Do your fucking research. Don't take my word for it. Look at the evidence yourselves
>>581693082 People will believe anything you say? Like firemen saying it looked like a foundry? So basically what you're saying is trust the words of firemen and no one else. You're a dumb fuck like op
For the first time in history, steel frame skyscrapers collapsed because of fire.
Jet fuel does not burn hot enough to melt steel, yet there were pools of molten steel WEEKS after the collapse.
The U.S. has a very sophisticated network of radar/satellite/etc. and extremely fast jet fighter interceptors yet all the hijacked planes were allowed to wander off course for nearly an hour and not one was actually intercepted.
The government actively tried to PREVENT any investigation from taking place. (This is the one that got me questioning the official story)
Numerous witnesses reported secondary explosions, some happened before any planes had hit.
Many photos taken immediately after the collapse show perfectly cut columns consistent with controlled demolition.
The buildings fell at free-fall speed. In a normal collapse, the top would slow as it met resistance from the rest of the building. In this case they both fell as though nothing was there at all.
Bone fragments from fire department first responders were found ejected nearly a mile away. That doesn't happen with a collapse, it shows there was forceful ejection.
Same with many photos where you can see the outer columns flying off away from the building. Those are MULTI TON steel beams several inches thick. They don't just shoot out without significant outward force.
>>581692361 >thats funny you mention the people who built the wtcs: >here's a Transcript from an interview with chief electrical engineer for the World Trade Center complex regarding the wtc collapses
"I am Richard Humenn. I am a retired professional electrical engineer. I went through Brooklyn Polytechnic Institute and received the Bachelor of Electrical Engineering degree in 1954. I worked for Joseph Loring for 41 years and was principal chief electrical engineer for the World Trade Center complex..."
"...Well, I would be more comfortable if I said something first...that the pancake theory that was initially proposed did not work. It was not feasible because if the floors pancaked, the columns would still be standing. That would have meant all the connections to the girders on both sides, interior and exterior columns, would have been disconnected for the pancake theory to work. So, it's an invalid theory. The only way that I can see that the towers could have collapsed is that the interior columns were compromised, and by being compromised the center of the towers would become virtual black holes sucking everything in to the center of the towers..."
"...I'm very familiar with the interior structure that surrounded the elevator shafts and the accessibility which the elevator companies had 24/7, and could visualize that the columns could have been set up with explosive devices during the off-hour operations of the building by elevator company personnel."
>>581695562 It's like people have never BBQ'd one night, then in the next morning they go to empty the coals and burned their hand because the shit's still hot, or threw the coals in the trash can and the trash can melts or causes a fire....
People can't seem to understand that jet fuel wasn't the only thing making shit burn. The buildings had gas line all through it.
It's not that difficult to understand why there'd be fires and molten shit buried underneath rubble.
>>581696839 Well basically, what you do is, well you take your plane right, you following me? You take it and you fly it at a low level, got it? Hey presto, you're now flying a plane low enough to hit a building.
>>581694896 Oh and the floors below physically couldn't withstand the force of the top falling on it, they weren't designed to, as more floors fell the more force they took. As for the bone fragments you clearly don't know a lot about buildings collapsing, the amount of air forced out would easily have blown debris a mile away. Oh and you're right, multi-ton steel beams don't fly out without significant force. Strangely enough a collosal building falling down produces force.
>people will believe anything if they undonditionally distrust the people talking
Honestly you're wasting time on that thermite/explosives nonsense anyway. The mothership was trying to secure her reptilian informants from the buildings and in their haste the teleporter caused substantial damage to the steel beams of the building due to an active solar flare interfering with their reactor output.
>>581691820 because it was right next to two fucking huge 110 story towers crashing less than 30 yards away.All of the other wtc offices caught fire or were destroyed when the towers fell tower 7 just burned for a long time after also being weakened by the towers collapses
>>581697810 I mean, you can only be so autistic to forget there's this thing keeping your retarded ass in your seat called gravity, and if your fat sperglord shitpillows were to fall on top of a pile of concrete and metal like the top of that building, the sheer force exerted by it falling would cause debris to expel violently like an explosion. If you'd be so kind as to step out of your padded bedroom and spill some of the glue you're eating on a smooth surface, slip and fall on your box of crayons, you'll be able to witness this effect for a brief moment before being distracted by that thing that moved outside and the sudden need to relieve yourself into your diaper.
>So basically what you're saying is trust the words of firemen and no one else.
And who the fuck is your source? why are firemen untrustworthy?
>The firemen witnessed it because they were fucking there >you were not fucking there and neither was ur guvment >search and rescue volunteers and firemen do not have an apparent motive to lie about what they see >you and ur guvment have many motives
every CREDIBLE source and all of the actual EVIDENCE points to controlled demo and all you have to stand on is the word of a corrupted government and the shills it employs
>>581696081 >lead electrical engineer that built the fucking building:
"There were four on each side of the towers. There were two substations on the 108th floor, the 75th floor and the 41st floor and the 7th floor. At those eight locations there were four transformers in each substation that weighed over 30,000 pounds I believe (but in that area). And they were certainly very...the heaviest part of the mechanical floor were those transformers and anything else that was up there was inconsequential as far as weight goes.
The transformers would not explode on their own – they were air cooled, dry tight transformers. For them to be totally pulverized at the bottom...it was a shame that after the collapse that a forensic engineering unit didn't go into the debris and try to find, at that time, why the towers had collapsed. I'm sure there was other evidence that could have given a better indication at the time that there was something else wrong.
There were 32 30,000 pound plus, maybe, transformers...powered transformers, in the substations on the mechanical floors in each tower. And yet after the collapse there was, from what was reported, there was no evidence of them being found at the bottom of the towers. I wonder why.
When I was watching, reviewing again and again when they repeated the collapse of the towers, I noticed in tower 1, unless my eyes were deceiving me, before the tower started collapsing from the top, the antenna started to fall. And the antenna, of course, was over the middle of the elevator shafts and I could see that antenna just falling down through the shafts directly to the bottom before the entire tower did collapse. And I question too, why the tower started collapsing from the top down, why not at the point of impact? That didn't make sense to me at all.
The plane, the fuel and the fire that emanated was not sufficient to bring those towers down alone."
Thermite was found. Only way to cut steel beams, jet fuel will not melt steel. There is video of molten lava shooting out of the side of the building. Firefighters said they saw the molten steel inside the building.
>>581698781 such a detailed analysts. you must be a scientist of some sort!
>answer this fuckwit:
according to you, all you need to do to make a massive steel structure high rise building collapse perfectly into its own foot print is light a few barrels of jet fuel near the top of it. So then why the fuck do demolition companies exist??
>>581700153 When someone says somehing you should view their claim with some skepitiam but also some credibility before you make any decision without looking at the grammer. Maybe then we could get anwsers.
9/11 Heroes Saw Molten Steel Flowing Like Lava in…: http://youtu.be/nwgkA5rlwKI
Video evidence of molten lava
WTC2 South Tower on 9/11 Molten Metal North-East …: http://youtu.be/OmuzyWC60eE
And if you watch the thermite video where he conducts experiments, you get same result with the molten lava.
>wtc7 was a football field away from wtc1 >wtc7 was separated from wtc1 by another 229 ft wide building (wtc6) >wtc7 was in between the Verizon and the US post office, both which are still standing >wtc7 wasn’t even hit by a plane >wtc7 was the third steel frame high rise to collapse rapidly and symmetrically on 9/11 >also the 3rd in history of all steel frame buildings to collapse due to fire >the first 3 in history happened in 1 day
>>581688696 >daily >Implying that it was an inside job >Implying that it wasn't actually a hologram of the building exploding being projected from the ground while the Illuminati space aliens paired up with Lincoln (Who everyone knows didn't die because he found a cure for death) abducted the buildings occupants to take them to their homeworld to interrogate them for the chemical formula for meth
>>581697856 >you clearly don't know a lot about buildings collapsing,
lol. seriously, who the fuck does!? you!? nobody knows much about buildings collapsing because it just doesn't fucking happen. The first time a steel structured building collapsed into itself was on 9/11 and it happened 3 FUCKING TIMES.
So why the fuck are you acting like i'm uneducated in the pshysics of building collapses?
If you want to talk about the forces involved in building collapses, then why dont you explain wtc 7 collapsing at freefall speed? lets talk about the forces of resistance and gravity..
GIF wont post , but check the link http://www.septclues.com/ANIMATED%20GIF%20FILES%20sept%20clues%20research/WTC7collapse1.gif
To all conspiracy theorists who believe the gubmint dunnit:
Isn't it really fucking stupid to just blow up a building broad daylight with no signs of damage? I.e. They can orchestrate slamming 3 planes into buildings, but why didn't they do it for 7? Seriously?
so sever some fucking beams near the top too then. the point remains that normal demolition is way more time consuming and labor intensive and expensive than just severing the columns at the top and lighting some barrels of jet fuel.
>i like how you ignored the part about forming an actual rebuttal.
>>581701579 >>581701724 >all this debate when explosive thermite was literally found at the scene in great quanities
the explosions were audible but they were also a great deal quieter than normal explosives. Normal demolitions dont use military grade thermite which is a very powerful incendiary,, not a high powered explosive.
I just don't understand why people think that the government would just drop a building with no damage? It's like these deranged cunts who think the moon landing was a hoax because of something trivial like the flag was waving(!) Right.. Because this thing was being passed as a GENUINE FUCKING MOON LANDING TO THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD WHO WAS WATCHING WITH AWE! Yet somebody didn't spot a flag waving? Kek
>>581702390 Right, ok, nice rant, still didn't really adress my point though did it. When a building collapses, it forces air out, producing enough force to eject debris great distances. There you go, fuck you, refute that then if you know so much. >>581702601 1st video. >loud explosion, bellied out in flames Not a controlled demo charge. 2nd video. >another shake, another explosions Clearly he is confused. Van, guy doesn't mention hearing any explosions. No one after this point hears any explosions like a demo charge. 3rd video. Yeah, again no one describes any explosions like demo charges.
>>581704074 >explosive thermite Thermite isn't explosive you tit. Demoltion charges produces staccato explosions, probably more like very loud 'cracks' than a traditional explosion. Oh and thermite doesn't in any way work the way you or other truthers think it does. You cannot cut crossways with it, you just can't.
>>581688696 >be amerifat >building high rise contructions of steel >forget knowing steel can melt when hot >not overdimensioning vital parts so that only one failure will couse a chain reaction >make same sandniggers mad
>>581705665 Well basically, when the building (which ways thousands of tons) collapses on stuff it crushes material and debris then it is ejected from the building with the force of escaping air. Simple.
>>581688696 All of the conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11 are laughable because even if they did have absolute evidence that it was an inside job nobody would ever go to trial over it. Not that it would ever get that far because nothing is accomplished in a echo chamber.
>>581705665 When a building is demolished using explosives like the one in this video (notice the very loud explosions?) What do you think has pulverised the building? The explosives? Or is it being destroyed under its own weight thanks to gravity?
>>581706429 dont fucking believe me, then. Do your own research. You'll find the truth if you just look. at lease i'm offering evidence and constructing logical arguments, bringing up valid point. Every shill in this thread has spent 90% of their posts attacking the credibility of thruthers rather than providing evidence to support their point of view. Why are you so afraid for people to ask questions?
Alright guys, sorry to come derail your thread here but we all know it was the work of niggers. Haven't you seen rise of the planet of the apes? We had to c-4 the base of the building to kill the nigger lords fighting at the top.
>>581691338 If that was the case..why would they wait to implode the building until a time when it would seem suspicious. If it was a controlled implosion, why not do it sooner so as to cloud the situation? Conspiracy theorists bore me so.
>>581688696 I dont give a fuck about 7-11 anymore. Once upon a time i thought it was a shit day and the turning point of the whole world. it was and all newfags on here dont realise what they are missing out on because my upbringing was better than yours by a very long way and we were barely middle class. All 7-11 taught me was when the going gets tough the yanks and the europeans pussy out. They pretend to be tough by throwing some bombs at retards in rags but all they do is get rid of their unemployment problem by inlisting the dumb fucks of their communities and then lead them to a slaughter. I hope that ISIS or Russia win any future battle because whites are weak, been feminised and a anonymous monkey dick sucking socialist faggots.
>>581688696 >daily reminder that steel girders dont spontaneusly combust BHP, the steel company, built their HQ from steel to demonstrate that concrete wasn't the only choice. All the steelwork within the "Rusty Tower" was lagged with asbestos so that it would meet the fire regulations. Steel burns. Get it hot enough. You can light a Brillo pad with a match.
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