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I was about 50 yards or so up this path when I noticed a man standing off the side of the path apparently staring into the woods. As I got closer I realized his pants were down around his ankles and I could see his ass. Now, I'm straight but I have to say that it was a really nicely shaped ass for a man and I took notice. I figured maybe he was drunk and just peeing in the bushes, so I started to walk quieter so I wouldn't disturb him. But as I got closer I started hearing strange grunts and sucking sounds. I realized there was another man blowing him.
Now, I'm not gay but I slowed my pace down to watch. I slowed and approached the standing man from behind. His friend didn't take any notice as his eyes were tightly closed. I came right up behind the man standing so that I could have reached out and touched him. That's when I brought the cinder block down on his head, hard. He collapsed on top of his faggot friend and I quickly finished them both off. I rolled them into the bushes and finished my walk. That was only my first of many such gay encounters.
If sexual orientation is something that is already decided at birth does that mean my sexual attractions to animals rather than humans was also already determined at birth? If that is so why am I attracted to multiple species rather than just one? I am only attracted to female animals but not just one species of animal.
>>579926012 Im my mind there are two "kinds" of faggots. Faggots who's faggotry runs true and were born faggots, and "fake" faggots who jumped on the "faggot bandwagon" so to speak, such as hamplanets who become so desperate for any kind of human contact they will resort to faggotry. These faggots you speak of are most likely the former.
There are "genes" that can lead a person to be homosexual but, at the end, it's all about the social environment, specifically the relationship with the person's parents. (english is not my main language)
>>579923418 No, becuase it does not cloud their everyday judgement, or make them less intelligent. It literally changes what they like to do in the bedroom. Mental illness's are destructive. The CEO of apple is gay.
>>579927702 I'm guessing there's a slight chance but it wouldn't be innate, people who are into zoophilia and necrophilia still typically have a gender preference. same as rapists or paedophiles. So I'd assume the gender is still from within, I am bisexual and always knew from the time I started having sexual thoughts
Faggots are only faggots because they are attention seekers. Society makes it seem like being a fag is okay and should be encouraged. In reality, these faggots just resort to being gay just so they can feel special. They're similar to fat people who defend themselves by saying "a little extra meat is okay" and "This is how I was born/How I am." Faggots only go gay because their parents never loved them, so they seek love from their uncle Jimmy and suddenly think dick is better than anything. They are just cock-addicted faggots who were never loved and are being manipulated to suck dick in exchange for "love." I think lesbians are cool, though. >inb4 troll
>>579929081 Well there's a whole separate argument pertaining to how sexual activity can fuck up young kids. I do believe that there are some kids who can handle it, but the fact of the matter is the problem is big enough that sweeping laws are needed to shut it down. It's unfortunate for the pedos and kids who can handle it, but they're the minority and have to deal with it for the sake of the kids who would be fucked up. Especially since there's no way to know whether the kids are affected until years down the line.
>>579930502 you fucking amerifags think the same shit. the faggots weren't around a few decades ago, were they? They're just being hyped up by this society and its media. That's why the faggots are growing so fast and becoming "normal." This is exactly the same thing that is happening with all the fat amerifag landwhales
>>579931972 I'm gonna go ahead and assume that you're one of the faggots we're discussing. I don't know how dumb you actually are, but a 4-year old will tell you that gays can't reproduce. No reproduction means no kids. Gays can't make babies. >naturalselection.jpeg
>>579932372 Actually I'm not gay, but I do support them. As for your statement, if homosexuality is a genetic misfire, then it isn't necessarily hereditary. Are you assuming that are things pertaining to genes are hereditary? If so, what are your thoughts on mentally retarded people? How do they come into being?
>>579933915 If you read my first post, you'd see all my statements are based on the context that I believe being gay is a genetic misfire.
Ok, then what makes you think being gay is a choice? Who would willingly choose to live in a world that almost universally hates gays and be gay? Because of all the wonderful pro gay media you mentioned earlier? I think you have a wildly inaccurate sense of what their lives are like.
Which is why I will say again, you seem to be hateful and uneducated.
every single gay guy i know personally which is like 3 were sexually abused when they were little. 2 by a priest and another by some weird drunk. 1 of the priest molestees tells me that he didn't have a choice in the matter and that his sexuality was forced upon him and he just went with the flow.
Tbh the main reason why it's a "choice" is because it's viewed as an argument for the morality of homosexuality. It's kind of a moot point though. Morality doesn't (or at least shouldn't imo) hinge on whether or not what you're doing is a choice. It should hinge on whether or not what you're doing is right. Choice is irrelevant assuming that morality exists in terms of cause and effect and not sentimental wankery.
It's an extra moot point though because there is nothing wrong with being gay, period. It's raising an argument that doesn't need to be raised. It doesn't matter if you were born with a ten inch dick of a ten point 1 inch dick because there's nothing wrong with either of them.
This is such a dumb point of debate. I never understood why it is taken seriously by anyone.
>>579928230 >Mental illness's are destructive. so you are saying that people diagnosed with a certain mental illness are dysfunctional? A person with schizophrenia will never be able to get a job, or get laid?
>>579934897 If you actually comprehended what I wrote, you'd know my answer to the first question. Being gay is for attention seekers as well as those who weren't loved and resorted to being lured into sucking some old horny guy's dick. They are manipulated this way (although it may not be this far) until they are addicted and believe that they are gay and have feelings of love, desire, and compassion towards the same gender. Your second question was answered by your third question. I'm not sure what your goal here is. Nor am I sure why you believe in supporting faggots who are just posers. Fat people are exactly like gays in almost every way.
>>579934945 because straight guys stick to pussy and don't have to do gay shit like suck dick to prove a point. It's overdramatic and makes them seem like they want attention. However, the people who DO suck dick for that purpose are the gays of today's society.
>>579936552 No but approximately 10 to 15 percent of the population identifies as not heterosexual and no one who is gay that I know was molested except one girl and she's bi, I'm bisexual and know a lot more then three others
>>579920895 Ok you fat nigger faced, paki fucking, curry munching, 9/11 causing, cancer spreading, Jewish dick sucking, christian wanking, bald headed, aids loving, gay cunt that fucks kids in the shitter and wanks off his granddad while his nan fucks him with a strap on. your mum has aids and she got raped but a fat Jewish nigger with ebola. only thing that would of made 9/11 funnier is if you was in the plane when it hit the building
>>579935984 >a mental illness or psychiatric disorder, is a mental or behavioral pattern or anomaly that causes either suffering or an impaired ability to function in ordinary life (disability), and which is not a developmental or social norm.
So what part of that does being a fag fit under? It only causes suffering or disability because it is stigmatized. The condition itself doesn't cause suffering like anxiety or depression and doesn't cause disability like schizophrenia.
There is no reason in this day and age for people to give a fuck if others are fags. Especially so many fag-haters on this board who claim to be libertarians and want others out of their lives and rights but still want to hate on fags for personal life choices that have no effect on them whatsoever.
>>579936575 I love an 8 year old girl and we fuck every single day. Is there a problem with this? I'm saying that faggots aren't meant to be. You can't love a guy in a normal, natural, or acceptable way. Dicks fit into pussies for a reason.
>>579937150 He told me he likes guys 100%. I don't believe it, though. TBH, when a guy has his cock in my brother's face and wants him to suck him off my brother is going to realize what a big mistake he has made lol.
>>579936380 I'm talking exclusively about males being gay. female bi isn't even really that big a deal. you still have the option to produce naturally a baby despite what you consider to be a specific sexual orientation. a gay guy cannot by way of nature produce offspring with his sexual orientation.
> nature vs. nurture is still being debated as if it actually matters if people are born gay or not > there are people in this very thread that think being gay is a mental illness despite every professional saying it isn't >people still conflate homosexuality with pedophilia and rape despite the fundamental differences between consensual and nonconsensual, criminal acts
>>579935996 I certainly understand what you said, I just thought it was an awfully shallow and silly explanation for such a complex issue. In the end, it seems you just can't conceive that some people are naturally attracted to their same gender. You envision a world that is very black and white.
My goal was to try to better understand why people like you believe it is a choice, despite an overwhelming amount of first hand accounts of people who discover that they are gay.
You continue to reinforce my belief that this type of thinking is the result of being hateful and uneducated. I support gays because it's wrong to persecute people for unharmful actions.
>>579937969 Wow, plus you've got a good point there's not enough humans on this world already. A bi guy as well though can choose to produce a baby by having sex with a woman... which bi men enjoy. but at least you said a gay guy cannot by way of nature you're saying that it is a way of nature
That argument is fucking retarded because im bi-sexual, this was a choice of mine at the age of 30. Being that I fuck men and get fucked by men yet still screw pussy also, means that I am considered gay because I fuck men so there for being gay is a choice. Both sexes turn me on no lies, when ever I hear this argument its just like listening to fuckin retards blabber on about religion and what ones best. Some people are born gay thats fine but NOT ALL are, and for the ones who choose guess what its a fucking choice.
>>579939004 Sorry, I should've been more clear. I support people being happy. If someone is made happier by having sex with the same gender, then I'm all for it. There's no evidence that homosexuality is hereditary, and we have plenty of people on earth. If we lived in a tiny society with only a few people, reproduction would be a valid issue, but it's void in modern times. An argument against homosexuality makes as much sense as an argument against someone who chooses to not have sex, but no one gives a shit about that.
but yeah what does it matter what people do sexually if it's not hurting anyone, just because you don't like the thought of it they still have the right to do it. Homophobes think about gay sex I think more then we do
>>579934265 Huh... interesting picture. Too bad it's actually a symbol showing that God will never destroy all living creatures via flood again. It's just faggots appropriating Christian culture again...
>>579940129 >Homophobes think about gay sex I think more then we do You can't be serious. Really.
Is that why homophobes have: >Homophobic pride parades where they graphically depict heterosexual sex all over their bodies >Heterosexual orgies with crystal meth and viagra >Heterosexual bars where bodily fluids are mixed into drinks (but only fluids of the opposite sex) >A distinct subculture where having 200+ sexual partners is seen as good >A distinct subculture dedicated to spreading HIV through unprotected casual sex with strangers
>>579941339 Gay is actually having or showing a merry, lively mood. You're just wrong.
>>579941481 That's because I used to live in NYC and faggot sexuality is shoved in everybody's face 24/7 there. I don't have to justify the fact that I know what those things are, though. You made a claim and I showed how you were wrong.
I personally feel like it's socially constructed, but homosexual tendencies definitely have some biological sources.
But in the end, I think the ultimate decision to be gay or not to be gay rests on careful reflection by the individual, though they will be swayed to either side by factors both within and without their control.
>>579940138 I understand what your saying but here is the issue with that. From grade4 and on till the age of 30, I was sexualy intrested/active in ONLY females during this time and at no point saw men as a turn on. I had a discution about bringing a friend who was male in for a three some with a girl I was dating, at that time I turned her down saying I was not intrested in that. I laiter took intrest in the idea she braught up that time after I had broken up with her, I tried to think what things about a guy could turn me on in that situation. Towards the end of my 30th year I met a guy through a drive through at start bucks who seemed to make our conversation sexual and awkward I felt embaressed and kinda confused about the situation I figured because of this he might be gay, I laiter became friends with him and eventualy we had sex it turned out he was gay, I had used that time to experiment because on that first time I felt like it could turn me on so I went with it. For the last 6 years now I have been bi-sexual and have had almost 50/50 male femal sexual partners and am having alot of fun. So mybe for you it was like that but for me it was somthing that I had to choose laiter in life to go with and learn how I could be turned on by the same sex.
>>579930731 Because you need to molest or find a victim to act on pedo desires. Emphasis on victim. >But.. but little girls love my dick shoved into their undeveloped vaginas! Find one that actually does and then come back.
>>579942684 But you just said that that you didn't choose.You said it began to interest you later in life,not you decicded to become interested in it later in life.It's something that just happened one day."I felt embaressed and kinda confused about the situation",you didn't choose to be awkward and sexually confused about the situation.It just happaned.
When people say it's a choice,you're just a bisexual person who can't have a perspective on what it's like to not get like another gender.No matter how hard I try,I can't get hard for vaginas.It feels stupid trying to prove this to you but that's how the world works for like 90% of the world' s population.
Does anyone else find it terribly amusing some time in the past men were allowed and expected to mate with younger girls? While at the same time, homofags were generally put to death in a variety of gruesome ways. Those were the good old days.
>>579945602 Well the way I saw that situation was more that I had to think about what would turn me on about men, that was the catalist I guess to making me view situations with men diffrently. I feel like it was a choice in my situation but mybe your right im not an expert on the situation just a participant. Mybe its just my ego arguing with you about the subject, because I hate the idea that somone is telling me that my sexual life style is somthing im not in controll of.
>>579938570 Humans don't really need to worry about reproduction at this point. We are one of the fastest reproducing mammals on Earth. So if a portion of the population wants to fuck people of the same gender, who gives a shit?
This doesn't justify destroying societies institution.
Neither does any fallacy listed in this pathetic thread.
Gay people are retarded. If they ask for new laws so they can be >"EQUAL" when no matter what they do they will still be retarded. Then they deserve the middle finger. >in the butt I know they'll like that.
As a man who happens to like men, I can't be certain I was born gay. Frankly, I believe that everyone can go either way. I believe that I just happened to grow up in a way that I saw males as a more desirable choice. I still think women are beautiful, and I am perfectly comfortable with my gender. I just like the idea of spending the rest of my life with a man.
People look too deep into things. If you want to marry a woman, go marry a woman. If you want to marry a man, just marry a man.
I think it can be both, It's not totally fucking unbelievable for a guy to come out of a womb hardwired to like dick, and its not totally fucking unbelievable that someone just develops a craving for dick. What gets me is all these faggots who (instead of producing an arguement) just shout some gay pride shit because they know someone in here will agree with them.
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