Is it possible to terraform mars? also rule 34 for mars?

>>578602438
Lurking. Curious.

Also, I don't think so. It's an energy problem, there isn't enough light to power shit, maybe geothermal/nuclear power.

>>578602438
Unlikely, mars is tectonically dead, no more radioactive decay in the core. Not to mention it's like half the mass of Earth, so not as much gravitational pull to maintain an atmosphere. Without terraforming it, Mars is still more habitable than most of the planets around.

>>578602620
dafuq you are smoking, son.

This isn't scifi, you dont terraform with a fucking space tractor

I think the plan from couple of years back involving algae seemes plausible

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terraforming_of_Mars

>>578602438
Oh it would certainly be possible, but not by much. Extremely impractical, the main problem would be the atmosphere. It's thin and has very little oxygen, though anaerobic, oxygen producing bacteria could work. Come back a million years later and hey presto, a breathable atmosphere.

>>578602620
i think the problem would be the lack of magnetic field and ozone.
>>578603221
agree but apprently with the amount of radiation hitting it
the algae dies

>>578603323
gotta start somewhere ehhh
>>578603318
currently reading that

As Andrew Carnegie says:

'Nothing is impossible'

In this lifetime, highly unlikely

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I feel like this is bait but this is a field of study I am actively engaged in, more specifically bioregenerative life support systems.

One can terraform mars but only after significant energy expenditure.

>>578603221
You can't do anything without energy, I don't mean some giant fucking thing. Rocket fuel doesn't last forever, gonna need a lot of energy to get any sort of natural process started, even the algae idea. It has to be grown in a controlled environment first.

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>>578603552

Wouldn't it take a massive amount of time too?

I mean sure, more energy/unit is more work being done; but not factoring that in

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>>578603552
you're right m8.
im bating specifically you
you got me
gigs up
turning myself in
vamos
capooff
>>578603629
solar panels?
wind turbine?
with that lack of atmosphere and strong winds you
could probably produce a nice chunk of energy to
live on
and expand from there

>>578604016
wtf
>>578603552
sorry didnt read it all. that's pretty cool you're studying that
what do you mean a significant energy?
Like the amount of resources you'd have to put towards making it happen?

If it got hit by a comet or asteroid (preferably comet for the water), that would give it a good start. But it would still take a long ass time and a lot of energy

I don't understand the fixation on Mars. I just don't get the point of any mission there.

We need a solid base near Earth - say, on the Moon - where manufacturing can take place, or a more efficient means of achieving orbit - say, a kind of railgun with enough miles of track to to keep Gs from acceleration tolerable.

Without one of those things, the cost of space exploration is prohibitive. I don't think there's anything to be found on Mars to make exploration there a priority.

If terraforming is a possibility, I don't think Mars would be first on the list, and probably not within our lifetime.

Nope.
Mars has no magnetosphere. Therefore, it has no protection from solar radiation. Anything you try to grow would get #rekt by the sun. Not to mention that any atmosphere you DO manage to get on the surface would be blown away by said radiation pretty fast.

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>>578602438
rule 34 for Mars?

>>578604663
We could always become mole people

Bumping, i like doing this

>>578604758
Icee water hue digged hare

The main problem is the planet doesn't have a molten core, so no magnetic field, so major surface radiation. You could in theory engineer life that could withstand radiation very well (antarctic red algae could be a good starting point), but it would never be a place people could walk around in without serious danger. I guess you can theorize about artificially generating a magnetic field somehow.

There's also the low gravity which leads to a very thin atmosphere. I should sit down and do the math to see if a 100% oxygen atmosphere on mars would be enough oxygen for a human to breathe.

TLDR: maybe, but it would be really hard, and it would never be as good as earth

possible? sure

will it happen anytime in our lifetimes? nope.

>>578602438
National Geographics seems to think so, something about polluting it with CO2 to make an atmosphere and melting the ice caps.
They also said it would take a couple hundred years and wouldn't be permanent

>>578604016
Had a good chuckle. Thanks anon

Not without a working magnetosphere.

>>578602438
it doesnt have any life at all so an ecosystem that lives off and nurtures the planet would be an issue.

>>578602438
At the stage humans are right now we are still primitive in technology and science. It could be done but we wont have a solid plan for another 60+ years. Chemistry, Physics, Biology and Geology; we need to first master these disciplines before we even start terraforming a planet. Even if we do have a plan its going to be expensive and we also need to have a reason to terraform.

An exotic reasource that is only produced on mars is a great incentive to terraform. Its not impossible OP just really hard but the human race does come up with the most fascinating solutions. We are in essence a species that can break limitations

>>578604039
wind turbines are insanely inefficient and the solar panels would need constant dusting off from the winds you mentioned blowing red dust everywhere

Well we better fucking get started

>>578602438
is it possible to terraform earth?

Here's another one
>>578604758
>>578602438

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>>578606025
Forgot pic

>>578605074
I think you can make a magneticfield if you nuke the core. Sounds about right

>>578604663
This.

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Moon first, then the rest of the solar system. I have to agree that this obsession with the red rock that has little to no value to us is stupid.

We'd be better off looking to europa for water harvesting.

>>578602438
You'd be better off trying to figure out how to terraform Venus.

>>578606498
bitch do you even Europa Report?

Goodluck with that shit. I say we look for a wormhole and look for habitable planets there

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deviate the orbits of a few hundred massive, mainly ice asteroids and slam them into the planet.

Do something about the core, maybe detonate 5000 Tsar Bomba's in huge pit drilled deep into planet or something. Molten core means magnetic field strengthens.

Start releasing the moss and algae that grow in the tundra n shit...

Send waves of humans and supplies. Humans build factories that pump out a shit ton of co2 and that also thickens atmosphere. Factories are used to make building supplies and other resources. The "industrial revolution" of mars begins.

People can now go outside with small oxygen masks but dont require pressurized suits.

200 years later, larges sea's on mars. Lots of plant life and wild animals.

Colony wars begind and people have battles with mobile suits.

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>>578606124
>>578606025
>>578604758
>>578602438

Depends on how far you're willing to project the timeline. Thinking in terms of centuries instead of a single lifetime, with an unrealistic advance in technology during that time, then yes, it is possible.

All of the resources needed to do it exist in the solar system.

* Establish an artificial planetary magnetic field.
* Increase atmospheric pressure with greenhouse gasses either by introducing more gasses or releasing frozen gasses from polar ice and soil/rocks.
* Introduce more water from other planets or comets -- or release water from processed soil.
* Introduce Nitrogen, lots of it...
* Introduce bacteria and plants...
* Cook for a couple of centuries...

Then Marsfags can enjoy the benefits of terraforming...

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>>578606913
>Do something about the core, maybe detonate 5000 Tsar Bomba's in huge pit drilled deep into planet or something.

>>578607067
Dude, you're really redefining Mars porn for me.

Which is a sentence I dont think I've ever said before.

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>>578606820
You seriously tried to use a movie to prove a point. Holy fuck you are stupid.

Moon needs to be colonized. Once that happens we can go from there.

>>578603369

This is correct!

No magnetic field to protect the planet from solar radiation.

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>>578604758
>>578606124
>>578607067
>>578607713
Here's the last in this set. I made these a while ago and didn't know when I'd need them. I guess people want this so I'll Make another set

>>578607067
From the thumbnails I thought it was a horsecock not a mars bar...

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>>578608076
+1 internet to you good sir

>>578608120
That's a good Idea. I'll use that in my next set maybe..

>>578602438
possible: arguably
economically practical: most likely not

>>578602438
First you would have to restart the core. Some shit happened a long time ago and fucked up its inside so now it does not have a magnetic field strong enough to protect its atmosphere from the solar wind. So most of its atmosphere is gone. The first step would be to restore its magnetic field. The second would be to replenish the atmosphere somehow. The planet wold then warm up significantly. Liquid water would be possible at this point. The next logical step would be to populate large masses of water with algae and other microorganisms. This would provide the bulk of the biomass for larger life in the oceans and would also be the initial engine for oxygen production. Everybody would have to wait for several years to make sure the initial ecosystem is stable and the ocean is oxygenated enough to support fish and the atmosphere has a reasonable amount of oxygen. Once the fish are introduced everybody would have to wait several years again to see how everything plays out. If the oceans cannot support complex life at this stage it will likely be a very long time until the planet is ready to be taken to the next one; basically because microorganisms can adapt to weird environmental shit a lot faster than more complex organisms so if the more complex ones - fish - can't live then the environment is not ready for the next stage. Eventually when the oceans are capable to support complex life we can move onto the next stage. At this point the atmosphere should be dense enough to have weather like rain and whatnot. There would likely be some water features suck as small freshwater lakes and small rivers. In these areas we introduce grasses and other quick growing vegetation. what these will do is slowly suck up nutrients from the rock layer beneath them and through decay turn it into soil. After many years a soil layer will be built up which will support a vast array of microorganisms, worms, small bugs, and all the things needed for a basic land ecosystem.
Con't?

>>578608373
* in the foreseeable future. much is unforeseeable at present.

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>>578608518
yes, please do.

>>578608267
Thanks

Any requests for the next set?

I was thinking of making the planet a female

>>578608518
>Some shit happened a long time ago and fucked up its inside so now it does not have a magnetic field strong enough to protect its atmosphere from the solar wind.
There's also the problem of gravity. With Mars' low gravity its atmosphere drifts off into space via Brownian motion. No magnetic field is going to help there.

>>578608904
Marvin the Martian involved?

We could just use moss and roaches.

Nothing could possibly go wrong.

>>578609170
Maybe. The first one I kind of did quickly because a few months ago Someone wanted some mars porn. I'll make the next set better. Maybe animated? I don't know

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>>578608518
>this

Thanks, you saved me the time and typing.

Mars is dead because there is no vulcanism.

Best bet is to look out past the asteroid belt, like Europa.

>>578602438
No source of Nitrogen

Never gonna happen

DROPPED

>>578608904
im so down

>>578610084
Okay guys keep bumping the thread. I know what I'm going to do

>>578610216
bumping to the max
if not ill post another thread

>>578609850
isn't europa too far away/behind obstacles which could completely destroy the attempt to change it effectively?

>>578610835
still bumping aint gonna stop

>>578610954
never stop

>>578608518
The soiled area will be small in comparison to the entire planet at this point but reasonably thick and spread out enough to allow for larger vegetation. The hope is that during the initial soiling process the winds from the reinvigorated atmosphere have not blown it all to shit like the 30's. After, again, many years of waiting a forest should have grown and helped the spread of the soil layer do to their wonder soil preserving and wind calming nature. At this point the oceans should have a matured ecosystem with a large biodiversity and the land should have developing ecosystem with its biological aspect lacking any kind of animal. Next step is to introduce some wildlife. We start with the herbivores. They build up their population and start to have an effect on the landscape. There will be HUGE populations of herbivores (rabbits, groundhogs, deer(who can jump like a fucking moon-nigger because of the low gravity), moles, cows, mice, and other such things) leaving bare earth wherever they travel. Now is the perfect time to introduce the higher order species. Cats, dogs, bears, and other forest dwelling species are added to the mix. Basically what happens after this is the classic decline of the prey population and then decline of the hunter population. We wait some more and let the forest ecosystem stabilise before we move onto other areas of the planet. keep in mind we have been adding species to the ocean to make it more robust this whole time. Now that we got a portion of the planet covered in forest and have animals living in it we can focus on finishing up the planet more or less. This time it will be a very long wait. We have slowly been adding water to the planet through comets and other cosmic objects with a high water content. Oceans have gotten bigger, rivers are flowing, lakes a plenty, and hydrating showers a plenty. The soil has now spread to most of the planet and we have areas with different climate now that can support different life.

>>578611314
Dont stop till u drop

In all honesty Venus would be easier to terraform. it would require an absolute fucktonne of energy and or time (depending on energy rate delivered) but Venus has the basics already in place, like an active core producing a sizable magnetic field and gravity very close to earths. the primary issue would be converting CO2 to oxygen industrially, as plant life would not exist at 400+ degrees Celsius. also inb4 "venus will be waaay too hot for us", Venus's temperature comes from the ridiculous greenhouse effect of its 96 something percent CO2 concentration. once those levels are reduced to earth levels, then at least places away from direct sunlight will be habitable.

>>578611693
bump to read

>>578611974
so the poles would be tropic?
well those would be a good place to start with the co2 conversion

Propaganda is the centerpiece of our attempt on Mars. Nothing there warrants any kind of extended Earth presence.

We need to concentrate on an energy-efficient way of maintaining space presence first. A manufacturing base near Earth or an alternative to chemical rockets to escape Earth orbit is a necessity.

Here is a long term solution:

You need a molten interior if you want a nice healthy magnetic field. Also plumping up the planet for gravitational purposes wouldn't hurt either.

So bombard the planet with asteroids. It may take a good portion of the asteroid belt but it can be done. Bombard it until it's turned molten once more and then wait for it to cool off. So long as it didn't get slammed by any planet sized asteroid most of the materials and water that composed Mars should remain.....in addition to the new material from the asteroids. After 200m-500m years the planet should have cooled enough that it can be inhabited but still hot enough for a molten interior.

>>578612281
why is it promoted?

If we want to make long term space flight a posibility, we should begin by setting up several bases on the surface of the moon. The low gravitational pull, stability, and close proximity make it an ideal location to start off with.

>>578612379
Because without ridiculous goals such advances likely would not come.

Don't worry, I'm still working on it

>>578602438
The future of space exploration lies on the body closest to earth that has a great abundance of water.

That would be Ceres.

>>578612808
who is promoting it is the question
ehh ehh

>>578603369
I remember reading an article about a type of gunk that was found growing inside the Chernobyl nuclear plant. The theory was this stuff was actually feeding on the radiation.

In which case. Drop it on mars. It should colonize the entire planet.

Might not be terribly useful for us, but it'd be real fuckin neato.

>>578613190
I have a strong belief that harnessing this shit is key to mankinds foothold in space.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiotrophic_fungus

>>578613190
>Radiotrophic_fungus
welll shieeetttt sounds good to me.
>>578613417
would this theoretically absorb all the radiation as it came in?

>>578607885
So possibility #2 is under the surface.

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>>578611630
Net think that happens is we fill out these areas with different climates with their appropriate species. desert gets camels, hot but still wet areas get forests and monkeys, hot and really wet gets rain forest, you get the deal. We wait and let all of this mature and develop properly. Once everything is stabile, has all of the proper biological diversity, and is capable of finishing the spread of life to the last of the untouched areas on its own we commence the last step. We stick a black rectangular rock outside of an inhabited cave and hope for the best.

The end.

>>578611630
One thing that often gets overlooked in these appraisals is the need to introduce many of the same pests and diseases, including bacteria etc. that exist in the natural environment. They perform an important part of the natural ecosystems checks and balances, and in their absence, evolution will find itself with some substantial niches to fill, which we may be unprepared for.

>>578614197
what if we shipped a load of algae there and let it otu

>>578602438
Familiar with the Kardashev scale, OP?
I'd figure civilization would have to be at least Type 1 (around a century or more away according to Michio Kaku) to make an entire planet (Mars) to hospitable enough to live on without protective gear.

>>578602438

>implying we wouldn't take hundreds of years for that
>implying we wouldn't destroy that planet in less than 100 years just by living on it

the human race is a parasite

>>578602438
>Is it possible to terraform mars?
>also rule 34 for mars?

It is easier the other way around. Trough nuclear bomb technology we can make Earth more like Mars.

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>>578610680
Here!

>>578614860
that's true. you should kill yourself. It would benefit the entire planet.

>>578615358
Worked really hard on this one

>>578604368
Bingo.

With launch stations on the moon, you don't have to worry as much about getting out of the atmosphere, which is where the hardest problems in space exploration lie. With a moonbase, you could stockpile fuel, supplies, and other shit for extended range missions.

>>578615358

Should I continue making this set?

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Because Mars is cold.

>>578615584
That's some quality clever shit, anon. I love it. All of these are saved. I'm proud of you.

>>578616145

Thanks. I'll keep working on set 2

>>578602438
In a nutshell, no. Not with mere atmospheric initiatives anyway. Even on a geologically active planet like Earth where there is a robust magnetic field, the sun still strips cubic tons of our atmosphere away. On Mars, a dead rock with a cold heart, there's no such shielding. Any atmospheric tampering we do will simply be undermined by the solar wind ripping it out of the upper reaches of the planet.

Unless a way can be found to generate a magnetic shielding equal to the power of the core of a fucking planet spinning, this is not mere science fiction, it is tech-flavored fantasy.

>>578602438
because we've evolved on earth life elsewhere will be impossible, deal with it. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but we'll have to look after this planet

currently working on pic 2

>>578615358
oh lord this is amazing

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1. SO WHY CANT WE PULL MARS INTO THE PATH THE EARTH ORBITS BUT DISTANCE IT SO IT NEVER CRASHES TO US
2.????
3.PROFIT

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>>578602438
Haven't you seen the documentary on this one? We just have to start the reactor on Mars.

I think we should get 1 of jupiters smaller moons and try for a glancing blow to mars. Then if done just right you've jumpstarted mars' core and have givin it a sizable moon. the moon will cause gravitational forces to help keep the planets core going alot longer than without 1.

>>578602438
I think the magnetic fields being all fucked up and broken into small parts would make it hard to keep an atmosphere from blowing off into space.

Unlike the common consensus that "lets go to mars cause we can", ithink mars is a waste of time and resources. The moon isn't much better in terms of extended habitability. The human body just cant deal with little to no gravity for long periods, physiological changes start to occure the longer we're out there. The first things that need to happen are a less resource intensive way of achieving orbit, then work out some way to produce an artificial gravity inviroment. I'm not talking about gravity plateing or something equally far out, but something as simple as centrifugal forces.

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>>578617056

>>578618367
Haha. This is fun.

>>578602438
the atmosphere on Mars is incapable of holding oxygen. you could plant 1x10^24 trees and all that oxygen would still float off. before we could terraform Mars we would need to find away around that.

>>578616643
Can we push Mars down to our sun range? what would happen?

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>>578618614
Keep drawing faggot.

>>578618982
Ok. Nice ID bw

You have to nuke the fuck out of Mars's poles to get some oxygen into the atmosphere before anything else can be done.

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>>578619062
Technically you are painting. I am drawing.

>>578619128
But even then the sun winds would slowly blow off whatever thin atmosphere you could hope to produce.

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We just need to go to 5 towers and accomplish the task of the guardians. Every tower we beat will raise and develop every single thing that allows life on a planet, starting on the atmosphere and ending on rain and mountains.

The sad part is that we first need to reach the dark side of mars.

Almost done with the third in the set. My sets are always four, minimum

>>578618243
Magnetic acceleration technology can already attain orbit without rocketry. Funding and cooperation (from the countries miles of track would have to be built within) are lacking, I guess.

Support for a landing on Mars is prevalent for some reason, though.

>>578619773
earth-chan!

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Let me bump this one with an artistic depiction of my sun wind theory.

Well, it`s easy. Send many spacecrafts to land on comets, change there direction with engine and lead them to mars. Now Mars could terraform by hisself, in the comets is everything he needs.

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>>578619160
>>578619987

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>>578620535
>in the comets is everything he needs

>>578606650
>terraform Venus
That would actully be a far better idea. Venus is capable of holding an atnosphere, and there are living organisims (such as bacteria in hot springs) here on earth that can withstand the higher temps of that planet (that are around 450 C).

But maybe we should worry about this planet first before we go and start fucking with others.

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>>578620817

>>578620951
Venus, eh? ;)

>>578620951
>and there are living organisims
So you beat NASA to finding life outside of earth?

>>578621059
Read the whole thing. It says here on Earth

>>578621127
I refuse to read complete sentences.

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>>578617303
wtf is that dude even doing with that soldering iron? seriously it's not even plugged in. LOOK AT THE COLOR IT'S NEVER EVEN BEEN TURNED ON! fuck I hate shit like that.

>>578618367
keep going

>>578610835
Well, Europe could be teeming with life beneath the surface. Ergo our best chances there are to have a space-platform on the surface and "hanging-cities" below. It's definitely a place we need to colonize. Much like Mercury is required, because despite it's tiny size compared to earth it's a giant pile of alloy resources.

Basically there's a list of planets and belts in our solar system that could provide us with whatever we need for a stellar industry, profitable for us. It would ensure our existence without having to carve up our current planet :)

>>578621202
Just finished number 3
>>578620772

>>578621197
It's not a soldering iron. It's a volt meter.

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>>578621274
SHHHHH GOD FUCKING DAMNIT YOU FUCK.

>>578602438

Study Space Farming
>Get Picked For Future Colony Mission
Take over Mars

>>578620772
i swear im saving these. they're great

>>578615358

This thread is epic.

No magnetosphere, no party.

Fuck Mars. Magnetosphere aside, it's mass isn't enough to hold onto its atmosphere, so any oxygen produced would be whisked off-planet.

Terraforming Venus would be a much cooler option. The key is to first reduce our greenhouse gas accumulation by some innovative process that decomposes these gases. Atmospheric vacuums?

>>578615358
I came buckets.

>>578621653
243 earth-days day-night rotation cycle..

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The average speed, v1, of a molecule or atom of mass m (kilograms), at temperature T (Kelvins) is

v1 = sqrt ( 3 k T / m )

Where k is the Boltzmann constant,
k = 1.3806503e-23 m^2 kg sec^-2 K^-1

The escape speed, v2, from a planet of mass M (kilograms) and radius R (meters), is

v2 = sqrt ( 2 G M / R )

Where G is the gravitational constant,
G = 6.67428E-11 m^3 kg^-1 sec^-2

Approximately, the depletion time = 10^(v2/v1) years.

In order for a gaseous element or compound to be stable in a planet's atmosphere for ~ 10 billion years against evaporation losses by thermal agitation, it is necessary that

v2 > 10 v1

So let's determine the boundary condition, in which v2 = 10 v1.

sqrt ( 2 G M / R ) = 10 sqrt ( 3 k T / m )
m = 150 k T R / GM
m = (3.1029E-11 m^-1 kg^2 K^-1) T R / M

The temperature T is the equilibrium blackbody temperature of a planet at its perihelion.

T = { L / [16 pi s a^2 (1-e)^2] }^(1/4)

>>578621886
Solar power to power air conditioning?

Also I'll probably do Venus x Mars x Earth

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>>578621968
>>578621653

Where is the Stefan-Boltzmann constant,
s = 5.6704E-8 W·m^-2·K^-4
Where L is the sun's luminosity,
L = 3.826E+26 watts
a = the semimajor axis of the planet's orbit
e = the eccentricity of the planet's orbit

Here's the whole expanded equation,
m = (7.552E-10 m^-1 kg^7/4 s^3/4) { L / [a^2 (1-e)^2] }^(1/4) R / M

If you assume that the sun is the only significant source of heat,
m = (0.00334 m^-1/2 kg^2) R / { M sqrt [a (1-e)] }

For Earth,
a = 1.49598E+11 meters
e = 0.01672
R = 6378000 meters
M = 5.974E+24 kilograms
T = 280.6K
m = 9.296E-27 kg = 5.598 atomic mass units

This means that Earth's gravity is strong enough to hold any gas having a molecular weight of 5.598 amu, or more, for several billion years. The only gases Earth couldn't hold on to, anyway not in the free atmosphere, were hydrogen (2 amu) and helium (4 amu).

Now, do it for Mars and see what you get.

For Mars,
a = 2.27944e11 meters
e = 0.09340
R = 3396200 meters
M = 6.4185e23 kilograms
T = 236.8K
m = 3.8875e-26 kg = 23.411 atomic mass units

So Mars can hold on to CO2 gas (molecular weight 44) for longer than 10 billion years. It could hold free oxygen (32), too, but oxygen reacts with surface minerals and depletes from an atmosphere that way. It seems likely that Mars could keep gaseous nitrogen (28), as well, but for some reason doesn't have any. Water vapor (18) would deplete from Mars over several billion years, but the surface temperature on Mars would probably keep water locked up in surface and subsurface ice.

>>578614197
Yep, this was learned with the bio-dome experiments in the early 90's. They built the bio-domes and populated them with sterilized specimens (ie. clean plants and sterile soil). All of the plants kept dying and no one could figure out why, until someone outside of the project told them that there's a range of fungus and bacteria and other micro organisms in soil that are essential for healthy plant development.

If we really wanted to terraform mars, then maybe we should start shipping all of our garbage and yard waste there first.

>>578622036
*clap clap clap*
So it would hold oxygen, if i read correctly?

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>>578622163

It was not a fungus that ruined the biosphere 2 experiement. If you read the research papers they published as well as literature on the experiment you see that it was a sucess in terms of expanding our knowledge as the first large scale materially isolated bioregenerative life support system (BLSS).

The CAUSE of Biosphere2's fuckup was the fact they spent a hundred million dollars on a concrete and glass structure.. and didnt' let the concrete cure, which meant it was oxidizing and eating up more O2 than the enclosure was designed for.

>>578618920
Sure, just build and feul some rockets big enough to move an entire planet into the orbital path of earth and watch the two planets collide and make the new planet Merth or Ears. Too bad everyong will be daed and never get to see it.

what about these little niggers, if they can live on the outside of the space station then they can live on mars, ship them over asap and see what happens

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/microbial-life-found-living-on-the-exterior-of-the-international-space-station-say-reports-9682850.html

>>578606650
>>578620951
>Build gigantic solar shade larger than Venus itself
>Dump 4*10^19kg of hydrogen into the atmosphere
>Build a large number of solar mirrors to help fix the 243 day rotation problem
Good luck with that

>>578605273

>National Geographic
>Polluting it with CO2
>Melting the ice caps
>Wouldn't be permanent

Sure, I mean why not. Let's fuck up another planet while we're at it.

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>>578622284

Yes! The molecular weight of oxygen is 32, and mars can old on to gasses as light as 23 which means it can also hold nitrogen 28 but not water vapor 18.

Sorry I was getting high after pulling out those notes.