You got the wrong flag.
Our glorious leader says this is our flag now
can you crack on the aussies for my amusement?
you guys dont get along right? what about them ticks you guys off.
i find them to be fun loving drunks, but thats about all they got going lolll 824
>Be hanging with a pal in Lyall bay
> Stoned as fuck, Like to cook when stoned as better muchies
> talking about the perfect roast dinner and how everyone does it different
> Never cooked roast
> Think FUCK IT
> Mission to pak'n'save
> Bout 10pm
> Laugh and stoner rant about how its cheaper to buy a plant than dried herbs
> Go back to his place with herbs, chicken, lemons and veggies
> Use my weed enhanced tastebuds to make stuffing EPIC MAN!
> Cook chicken listening to Joey Diaz.
> decide good idea to record our stoner rants next time we cook and do podcasts annd shit
>2am Chicken done
> Wake up house mate, also a stoner
> ask if he wants roast and veggies
> Devour the chicken like savages
The basic idea of this design is solid but black is certainly our national colour and belongs here somewhere
feeling this flag tbh
maori and pakeha penises nestling in perfect racial harmony
I've got my last exam of my undergrad degree tomorrow and I'm really unprepared...Only studies 2 out of 4 module but like...I really can't be fucked any more.
I'm pretty sure even if I fail I can still graduate so like, who give a fuck right?
but then the flag would actually change and that's fucking gay.
john key has fucking faggot reasons for wanting to change it anyway
>sometimes people seat me at australia's seat at world events
>its not funny its just annoying
>im a faggot
this is why we shouldn't let asylum seekers into the country, they breed and then fuck with our flag.
shit like this, fucking hell. these things are actually being given the fucking time of day because of this faggot referendum that'll cost millions of dollars to do fucking nothing
too African for my taste
Name? School/place of employment? Hobbies?
Yeah, if you think that most people like rugby, let alone most of the new citizens from non-Western countries. Seriously, 40,000 people like rugby enough to fill stadiums on rotating cycles, 100,000 tolerate it, and the rest just stay quiet.
The silver fern doesn't reflect New Zealand at all, and that'll be proven on the referendum day.
Red because it's the colour of strawberry jam and I like jam
The silver fern is associated with more than just rugby my friend. If you ever went outside you might learn that it's also a plant endemic to New Zealand and is associated with many other sporting codes.
Yeah, but that's the thing. It's sport. Most people couldn't give two fucks about sport. Why should those five, no-homo guys in your high school be considered representative of the nation?
There are lots of plants endemic to New Zealand. Why not put a lancewood on the Goddamn flag? Because it's an advertising gimmick.
Because the silver fern is what we're known for. It's like the kiwi, there's plenty of native birds but we're known as kiwis, why not call us kakapos?
I'm pretty sure John Key has no real reason for a new flag, he's just a twat with nothing better to do.
I think it could benefit tourism though.
That's only because it's been emblazoned on sports shirts everywhere.
Look, I get that it's a cool plant. I get that it was on the military uniforms. I get that it's on the coat of arms. But the main thing it symbolises is 'lel All Blacks'.
Just look at Sports fans in other nations for example. Look at what they've done to the English flag (to the point where people now cringe when they see it flying, knowing damn sure what sort of people would erect it in their garden). The fern isn't simply a neutral plant anymore--it's petty, small-minded nationalism from a shitty lawn-sport.
I feel proud about the flag we have. It's neutral, it's kind, it's got history, which in a new country like ours counts for a lot.
If there was an alternative though, I'd go for this one. I know, yeah, it's Maori and shit, but it has an appeal for me like I guess the Ballarat flag has for Australians.
What gets my goat is people saying let's change our countries name to Aotearoa New Zealand or simply Aotearoa.
Man, if people aren't careful I'm going to go full Hitler on this place.
I think most people oppose changing the flag.
The thing with our current flag is everybody outside of NZ thinks it's Australia's. It does have history, but it's not exactly all positive, nor representative of NZ as a country. I like the navy blue and black version of Key's ideal flag. It's nice and distinctive, yet quite neutral too. I don't think of sports when I see the fern. If they made the flag entirely black with a fern, then I'd agree it just looks like we based it off a rugby team, but with the southern cross and the blue in it, I think it's a nice flag that represents our multicultural society.
CK Stead wrote a great essay about half-thinking progressives called 'The New Victorians' which criticises this sort of stuff. You should check it out. You'll have to get it from a library though, since there's like no copies online.
It was in response to some radical feminists in the 1980s assaulting and tying up a UoA English professor to a bench after accusing him of being a rapist (he in all likelihood wasn't.)
>CK Stead wrote a great essay about half-thinking progressives called 'The New Victorians'
That sounds damn interesting, I'll certainly check it out.
It's funny just how similar progressives and the Imperialistic Victorians they despise so much re.
He's actually a really great author. I'm meaning internationally good. Read his 'All Visitors Ashore' for a class, and it's about a horny 21 year old who fucks all these sluts. Great shit.
I was beside myself with joy when that Pakeha Party started (inspite of loathing the term Pakeha but I suspect the reality of what we are, and how I describe myself, would upset even more people which, of course, is all the more reason) but was sadly disappointed that it turned out to be mishandled by a complete tool.
Showed there was a feeling, though. Just need someone to come and bring that feeling together in an appropriate manner.
what will changing the flag even achieve?
dose that justify changing a flag? Because some people overseas get confused
is there really anything wrong with it being similar to Australia?
>inb4 ah fucking Australians NZ iz way betta
Australia is a pretty sweet country in all honesty
fuckin ay, but fuck calling it the Pakeha Party. That just opens up another whole fuckin can of worms.
How come pakeha is an acceptable term, but something that's literally used as descriptive (i.e 'black') isn't? there's no argument about "no but black is offensive" because pakeha is the reverse equivalent of nigger and it's no big news of the hateful connotations behind the word
Post a picture of yourself, we'll say you have a Jewish and then, yes, more or less.
You guys wanna rage? Typical tumblr feminist at the UoA. Plus, she's Jewish.
>tfw no eculc (ethical consumption under late capitalism)
>im queer i like boobs, i like all kinds of boobs i don't sexualize someone feed their kid. fcking cis men i s2g.
>why you feel the need to prioritize your feelings in a situation where all you fcking need to do is look away is beyond me
Tauranga reporting for duty.
Fraser street wanderer are you here?
>because pakeha is the reverse equivalent of nigger and it's no big news of the hateful connotations behind the word
I heard about this growing up but I cannot believe that to be the case. If it honestly was, the older generations would have kicked up a bigger fuss about it.
They would never have allowed themselves to be referred to in that way. Although, having said that, we did used to be called 'British New Zealanders' (and this is what I call myself) but they did stand by and watch as we we 'educated' in dropping that.
Ah, but, then, there was a degree of anger towards the British elite when they dropped us and joined the EEC so, maybe they did drop the 'British' as retaliation?
>I've been hungover all day... what the
You need to go deeper brah. She tweets like 1000 times a day. You'll come to gold eventually. I remember her writing something along the lines of 'Man I fucking hate white people (am not white, I am ashkenazi, thus poc.'
>tfw i'm an above average good looking korean boy
and i'm qt af
She's Jewish, ja? I'll buy her a train ticket, they love free things.
Give her a free tattoo and a nice warm shower.
i don't know about way fuckin back then, but that thought's occurred to me before as well.
no idea if it's something that was always like that or if it's become more and more hateful as time goes on, but either way i have no idea how it's an acceptable 'every day' word
>you cunts are all fags
>i hacked him for kim
>yes this guy
>SAGE WITH PHOTO
a shitposting GOD
You want your blood to boil go and read the Green Party blog and see how they "Pride themselves on being Pakeha".
They feel that being Pakeha removes their white privilege and that they belong to this land, like Maori, haha. They gymnastics these people have to go through is amazing. Surprising that, with all the fucking moving about they have to do on their positions, most of them are still fat as fuck.
Nah, last night, as I went for my walk I saw a bunch of cop cars down by the entrance towards the hospital.
There was a party, some people there not invited so, as you do, to get rid of the naughty boys, you hop into your car and fucking drive into them...
There was maybe eight-ten cop cars, with the road sealed off. This was around Midnight.
>why do these men talk to me???
>what have i done to deserve this.
motherfucking fuck, that shit is ridiculous. at least they got fuck all votes, not that it means much coming from me seeing as i didn't vote because literally everyone is a fucking faggot or not worth getting off my own faggot ass to go to one of the voting places
Voting is an one of the greatest illusions ever conceived.
I usually go about this time but I fluffled around too long so went later.
>are you a superheroman?
No, I lift, but not that much.
Yeah, there's no good parties here, which sucks.
>inb4 "Hh, what, fgt, my mate had a fucking good party tha other night cunt, FTP!"
Considered making my own and actually doing something not fucking retarded but like I was saying, I'm a massive fucking faggot. And if even I can see that, then what must other people think of me? No votes would be had for me
Nah, people want honesty, though. If you stood up and said "I'm a bit of a dick, I'm not sure why people would vote for me but, there's a number of things that are wrong with society and I want to bring people toegther that want to work out and fix those problems" people would take notice.
Imagine how people would feel hearing that.
I'm going to get into politics, maybe not directly, I wiould take far too much glee in causing shit (not joking when saying I'd go full Hitler) but certainly going to get in behind the scenes and do stuff.
Like I said earlier, tourism.
If people actually knew our country existed more people might want to visit. Tourism is one of our major industries and a unique flag which helps capture peoples attention could potentially help it.
fucking fuck brb going to grab earmuffs because there is infinity nukes exploding outside my house
Yeah, it could potentially work. Maybe I'll give it a shot one day, but for the moment I'm painfully aware of the fact that I'm not enough of an old cunt for people (especially the people of new zealand, fuck) to take me seriously yet.
Yeah, I couldn't trust myself to not do something fucking insane after having to deal with the faggotry of the country, political system and all their shitty dramas and still have to deal with people.
Nah, politics is a game. Just think of it like that.
Make your opponent get angry and, as he does so, lean back and laugh.
Laughter, in politics, is terrifying. There is nothing scarier than a politican that laughs.
Look at how people react when Key makes jokes and he isn't even what I'm talking about. I'm talking about a person that can use the humour, really use it, to attack his opponents and their views.
yeah, you've definitely got a point there...
so what are you into if not politics? you definitely seem cut out for it, at least. certain hitler-ish qualities aside, but hyung's probably the only non-hitlery cunt in this thread
who do you love more?
your mum or your dad?
i personally love your mum more
>being this retarded
The flag won't bring people, but awareness that a distinctive flag brings will help promote the country. Currently if people see our flag they think "oh, Australia, that's a nice place"
If our flag is distinctive then they'll see it and think "NZ", and when they feel like a holiday, they'd be more likely to head our way.
It's basically brand awareness. You don't promote your product by giving it the exact same style packaging as another one. It's why Anchor can sell it's milk for so much even though it's no different, brand awareness.
Okay here's my spiel:
You know, I grew up believing that Godzone WAS the greatest little island in the world. And for a while it was.
But we've lost out way. We've forgotten who we are, and where we came from.
We've forgotten how hard we've worked for fair, egalitarian ideals - for a classless society that allows access for all - not just those that already have. For the right to work without exploitation.
For leaders strong enough to look to a future greater than themselves; leaders who embrace our history, look great powers in the face and say NOT IN MY BACK YARD.
I'm not into politics per say but at the same time I am. By that I mean the bullshit that goes along with it, the spectacle of modern politics which is about feelings as opposed to fact is not something I'm on board with.
There are a number of problems, though. Poverty, unemployment, health, housing, the environment, education but one cannot discuss these issues without SJWs coming along and having a cry.
I would take far too much glee in dealing with them, even in just a debate, that I wouldn't be left alone.
Either by them, those that disagree, or by those that argee with me. I know that sounds arrogant but I say what I mean and I couldn't give a toss if you get offended by it.
It would be flooded with Americans if they only knew this place was more than forests and half naked bush people holding paddles.
>"oh, Australia, that's a nice place"
Very few people think that, though. This whole thing "Oh my God our flag is too similar to Australia's"is only recent and, surprise, is simply being used as a means to remove the Union Jack from the flag and further undermine the British founding, history, culture and people of these two nations.
"Clean, green New Zealand" is the brand for this country. Perhaps we ought to spend more time working on the brand we already have, and are failing at, as opposed to having a cry because our flag is similar to Australia's.
There are many other flags which are far more similar that Australia and New Zealands.
fuck feelings, i'm not even fucking kidding about that. the moment decisions are made based on who'll be the least offended is the moment you know that something, somewhere along the line, has fucked up monumentally.
too much bullshit is becoming law or common practice just because SJW cunts are having a cry about shit.
Yeah, that's probably why I'd be a terrible prime minister. I wouldn't be able to not engage the moronic fucks, precisely and explicitly informing them of how and why they're fucking retarded.
Well, tourism is a big contributor to our economy. If you're one of the retards who voted National then you should be all for it. If not, then fair enough, I get your point.
I think it could make a big difference. There's a huge number of people who have no clue where the hell NZ is, or think it's part of Aus. Every time they saw our flag they'd be reminded that we're actually an independent country that pwns Aus. I personally don't care about a tourism boost, I just think the old flag iss antiquated and just makes us look like Britains bitch. I really don't think it'll change though.
m8, you're fucking retarded.
look up the italian flag, then open up a new tab and look at the irish flag.
They're both in europe, in fairly close proximity to each other but neither of them fucking cry about the fact that the only difference between the two is a slightly different fucking shade of red. the fact that out flag is similar to australia's is a fucking non-issue and the fact that retards are pushing it because they want their own super speshul snowflaek design to be flown from every fucking rooftop in the country shows just how pathetic the majority of cunts here really are.
What a fucking awful design.
It looks likes our flag was raped by a box of Weetbix.
I'm sick of those faggots pushing their flag designs just because they want the glory of their piece of shit hanging from every flag pole in NZ.
I will personally burn that flag if it becomes official.
Yeah but everyone knows Italy. And Ireland is fucked, and nobody really cares about the place. I don't see your point.
From a tourism point of view it'd be beneficial. I really don't care that much though, I'm just pointing out that there are advantages. I don't think National have considered that at all though, Key just has nothing better to do.
But the majority of NZers seem to love National so I don't get why they'd be so opposed to this flag change as it encourages tourism, a big part of our economy. Heck, none of our tourist goods have our flag on it, they all have the silver fern, at least we'd finally have a bit of uniformity.
But, like I said earlier, that politics is a game. It is, just that no one is actually playing the game with the SJWs.
They are terribly hypcritical and there are many different ways to call them out.
Anyone read the tv reviews on Stuff by Mike Kilpatrick? He's a hardcore SJW and mentioned, in a column about Stephen Colbert being David Letterman's replacement that, if a 'POC' could do his job, he would give it up.
I should be very interested in knowing as to why all the POC he has interviewed for the job haven't been good enough. Because, surely, he is true to his word and has been tirelessly looking for a darkie to replace him, right?
Nobody is playing their game but, on the bright side, when somebody does start playing them I suspect they will be so sure of themselves as to be even more reducded to stutters of intellectual inadequacy than they would have had they been facing sporting opponents from the get go.
I dont necessarily agree but I see what you mean
>hated them at first but just recently started to take part 3 or so threads
>WEST IS BEST Auckland
>i'm new here
are you fucking serious, how do you not see my point? two countries with almost identical flags and you don't get what I'm saying? fuck you're dumb.
Fuckssake, that Mike Kilpatrick cunt is a fucking mess tho. First of all, the shit eating faggot face is enough to make me rage before I even read anything he writes. Not that I've read anything other than the very first review I ever saw by him because I couldn't last the whole thing without wanting to find the cunt and castrate him, since he's obviously not fucking using his balls.
SJWs are one of the biggests cancers society's facing at the moment and they're only getting worse. If you call them out on their bullshit, they'll tie themselves up in knots trying to explain their way out of it but somehow never manage the insight that what they're saying is fucking retarded. It really fucking baffles me, but I guess there really isn't any arguing with a moron.
>i'm new here
m8, there's lying and then there's whatever the fuck you just did.
That's the thing and something /pol/, among others, misses.
You don't argue with a SJW. You get them to explain, and ask questions. You make them feel like a teacher but, as a student, you point out holes in their logic.
One of the problems with, for lake of a better word, right wingers is this sort of macho "on the attack" mentality. One cannot come out with guns blazing, people are far too wary of that nowadays, especially if one doesn't really know them yet.
Laughter, that is the attack that really stings. You make a joke, that really points out how wrong someone is, and you'llhave people quoting it, potentially, for centuries.
"I can smell the uranium on your breath" for example.
i've never been a good liar
Tearing them to shreds without actually engaging them in an argument is the only way to deal with them. Once others realise how ridiculous they are, how stupid they're acting and how retarded their arguments are then they start to lose following. Even if the original SJW never learns, you manage to dissuade others just by getting them to make themselves look dumb.
Arguing with an SJW is futile, since they're always looking for the next thing to blow up over (maybe we should let them join isis amirite ;^)) and 'angry retard' seems to be their default setting. as soon as you get them to condescending, pretentious prick then you've practically won.
i don't believe you, hyung
based hyungs can see right through me
i didn't lie about being S.Korean tho
>condescending, pretentious prick then you've practically won
That is precisely it.
There is this tendancy of smugness by both SJWs and those that oppose them but one should never ever under estimate their opponent.
You win an argument with a SJW not by thinking "This person is an idiot" but "I'll ask this person to show us their incredible progressive intellect by simply asking questions".
Whenever something exciting happens, on /sp/ they call it a "bowl" like the American football's "Super Bowl"
Then one day a while back someone posted
>yfw da bears win da superb owl
And then it became tradition to not only add "bowl" to any exciting event being discussed but to truncate the "b" and add it to the end of the word preceeding it
Part of /sp/ "culture" if you will
Flame me if you must I have nothing to be ashamed of
>suffer of vaginal entry
now it's a song about rape
to turned up late threads prolly gonna die soon
West Auckland, best Auckland.
ah I was just listening to it at the time best song on the album just posted it coz i really dont know what its about the band is Indonesian i think and they dont quite have a hold on English yet lol
lol have some more http://youtu.be/buqCtziwcg0
>mfw i recognise the porn at the start and end
Depends. If you don't like american sports or soccer there's no point really.
Although if you are into cricket there are occasional threads at this hour full of autistic banter from poopeelia
Especially when they're getting BTFO like they did by Pakistan and now by Saffa
There was actually a surprising number of Americans interested when the ABs beat them down this past weekend
I get you though. i browse /sp/, /ck/ because i'm a chef and /int/ sometimes for giggles
brought this thing
bottle of hennesy 22bux at the liquor store came in a silicone wrap like an ipod I feel like a fuking bomb ass henny sipping gangsta apple robot
roger that. CHCH fag reporting in
shit was so cash
i'm not a footfag so i don't have a folder for them
She's not that far off, I rooted her while visiting the states
she looks like a mouth-breather
I just googled her and found all these uploads
Of course she met some uggo and had a kid now
You have to toggle the work safe mode on and off until it reveals the photos
Her face isnt good I know but her body and sex skills were legit
What does ecstasy feel like?
I can buy some pills but I'm not sure. Like, what's even in them? I highly doubt there'd be much mdma because we;re anisolated country
Is it worth is to take them? Where do I buy them and how much should I pay?
Makes you want to grope soft things and warm and want to dance. Makes you lovey dovey too.
Ask your mates.
I wouldn't lie I can tell you her full name if you want to stalk her out of fb. I just was thinking about her and decided to google her after a while and that came up.
It's difficult finding proper stuff. Legit is definately worth it though - it makes you super confident and interested in what people have to say
Nice contrast to the usual life of us basement dwellinga and assburgers /b/ tards
I like this too. It's a bit 20th century with its desperate evocation of race equality but it the lines and curves are oddly reminiscent of the mountains and seas of NZ - year, I like it.