More of these.
Also general teenagers don't know shit about fuck thread.
Just a soapbox riding suburbanite with no real world experience then? Hmmmm?
>peoples feelings aren't legitimate just because they haven't tried everything
also, soldiers aren't "honorable" or have a moral high ground like every god damn american want's to believe. there's nothing honorable in killing people for money
MFW This mother fucker thinks soldiers start wars! Meanwhile it's the politicians hose balls you like that do it!
In fact, fuck it, I'll take the bait because I've some spare time right now.
Britfag ex-army, hit rank of Corporal and thoroughly enjoyed my time.
I joined the army for a good career, stability and a challenge.
Did not and still don't give a fuck about the politics of it.
Deployed Iraq and Afghan, best times of my life.
Why? Because I made a difference to peoples lives.
We patrolled into a village in Helmand in Afghan. Village was under insurgent rule but they'd gone to ground in the populace. That day, we get a few contacts. I go into a compound belonging to a family with my oppo. Get up on roof with GPMG, start putting rounds down.
The old man in the compound caught all my spent brass to go and sell, no problems with that.
Firefight concludes after an hour or so, we bug out. During that time, with the terp I'd got to know the old man. 93 years old, fought against the Soviets as a young man. Brilliant.
We withdraw as I mentioned. Return next day. Same routine, contact again, so I go back into the same compound.
Old guy there, battered black and blue.
Get terp over. The old guy had walked out his compound and saw two insurgents (Pakistani fighters) digging in an IED. They came over and kicked the shit out of him.
So we engage, kill a few, the old guy is in his yard clapping and dancing around, loving it.
Firefight concludes, we withdraw.
Return next day, no more contacts. Old man comes running out with family, shakes our hands, terp tells us he went to wash in the stream and found the two fighters dead after our contact.
Village was cleared, lives changed for the better. The insurgents had been draining the place of food and resources whilst they were there, effectively reigning fear over them.
I don't give a fuck who you are, that's what soldiering is about.
Soldiers volunteer, their voluntary service negates spineless twats like you from being drafted. Say what you will, being a volunteer during a time of war takes guts. You are too busy scrambling to excuse your cowardice. That is a sacrifice. Respect it or don't, you are free to.
This guy gets it. Individual responsibility for one's actions. Helping people by facing evil cunts.
>Individual responsibility for one's actions. Helping people by facing evil cunts.
Because the only way to do it is becoming a suicidal butcher, right? WAY TO GO!
>ex-army, not in a coffin after mass murdering
You're a failure, Moomoo.
I'm not the guy who said your post was bait but are you seriously saying that anyone who is willing to give their life for their country is a murderer?
You're a fucking idiot.
Kunar Province fag here. Hats off to you brits for doing a damn good job in Helmand.
gee, thanks for enabling greedy and corrupt politicians and not even giving a thought about the consequences of your little "challenge lol xD :P", i feel so much safer now than i did 15 years ago
you're not understanding me properly, i'm not focusing on a specific side of the wars. both sides are the wrong doers. wars isn't the ultimate solution to everything.
the answer to everything is education, but i guess your colonels and sergeants don't know that
Violence is the ultimate authority, those who will not use it will always be at the mercy of those who will. Silly little cunt.
>are you seriously saying that anyone who is willing to kill and die because of an abstract entity defined by politics is a murderer?
Not only a murderer... but a suicidal one.
If they wanted to help people, they would be cops, not suicidal butchers.
This is where you're showing a lack of education chum.
Wars will always happen.
We have always had education, but, how do you educate someone that refuses to be educated?
Germany 1914 - 1939.
Some quick examples, all dicatorships, all are or were fairly brutal in their times. You can't educate those people because they are ruled by fear and terror.
So what do you do?
Then they come knocking on your door with their tanks and troops?
Oh, but you don't have an army because that's just so gay and pointless.
why are those no conentration camp people? seems better to me with a picture of those, eh?
Well, however. I've got a few of those, too,
Sorry if there are some which already had been posted. won't check them all.
what a non-ignorant and open mindset you have, maybe you should stick to playing cod if you can't see the problems of war
i didnt say that it was an instant, i said that it's the solution
maybe our dream world without wars and corruption will exist in a couple of hundred/thousand years. that doesn't mean it's not worth fighting for it right now
you clearly don't understand definitions
it's not a transitive relation
Yeah because being a spineless twat is honorable.
>that doesn't mean it's not worth fighting for it right now
lol, fighting for it, as if you know what that even means. Yea posting on 4chan about how war is dumb while you're supposed doing your homework is real freedom fighting
I am a medic you twat, I see all the wreckage and help all that I can, your ignorance is laughable.
that should have been moar, whoops.
Ok, we're in agreement here, because I do believe that with the right global approach, we could educate and remove the reign of terror some people hold over their people.
Do you accept though, that before we can reach that period of enlightenment, that we will have to, as you say, fight for it? That there will be wars to achieve peace?
I know that not all wars are just and right, and there are lots of agendas, but even if we fought only those that sought to persecute and oppress others, we still need to fight them before we can educate them.
i understand that 'murica has skewed the political terms a bit, but leftists (lets just round it up to communists) are the ones that are for putting everyone in the same line, everyone should do the exact same thing and learn the exact same stuff
i do realise that "education" was a bit fuzzy, maybe "education, science and research" is more explaining of what i meant.
>Ad hominem AND false dichotomy in the same sentence
Because not liking suicidal murderers is the same as being spineless, right? Way to go!
Again: if they wanted to help people, they would be cops instead.
As a side note... you're sounding like a broken record. Maybe I touched a soft spot? Someone in your family an heroed in a war?
Really? are you that ignorant to the situation over there? What do they grow in Helmand? What do they sell in Pakistan?
the picture or my advice to make the other one more realistic?
youre missing the point completely
it doesn't matter if you are an oh so glorious medic
youre still making wars possible - hence contributing to a world with more violence
we just have two different ways of contributing. avoiding violence is one thing, helping people in terrorized countries is another
Fuck. I can't resist the bait in this thread.
Afghan is full of insurgents from other neighbouring countries. Iran, Syria, Pakistan, etc.
They are hired in to fight on behalf of the various tribal and drug lords in the country.
The easy way to spot a foreign fighter is that if you kill an Afghan man, his body will be taken away within hours by family, friends, or those in the village that knew him, for proper burial.
Foreign fighters would lie there for days until word reached their families back home, who would then travel to collect.
They always carried ID on them as well as their biggest fear was not receiving the proper burial and rituals.
Yeah, because cops are awesome! Last I checked there are no suicide bomber jobs listed in the Army...Aaaaand the only people in country that actively stop suicide bombers are soldiers.....sooooo whatsup nigga?>>574442061
90% of the population isn't worth the air they breathe, they should be killed as a service to humanity as a whole. Getting paid to provide that service is a bonus as far as I'm concerned.
why would you do this? Can't you see I'm busy posting more of those pictures?
No that's what a leftist is when you put in the most pessimistic terms to help make yourself feel like you aren't one. Leftists are the ones who believe that everyone must be educated. They are the Utopians, they believe that we can some how reach a dream world without war and evil (sound familiar?) To contrast, a rightist is someone who believes they should live their life without interference from government or state powers, and consequentially, they do not care whether or not people are educated.
Maybe I know this feel. Maybe I don't. It's still irrelevant for the discussion because, even if I do, you can be quite sure the person wasn't ooga-boogaing in a war.
Then you're living in a corrupt shithole where this kind of shit is allowed. And if even cops are like that where you live, I just imagine the soldiers... are they normal, cattle-like or are them cockroach-like [kill one and 20 pops up]
>This is what britfags actually believe.
Next time i save a cat, give it to a kid and the kid says thanks once, i also will be able to assume i changed everything, for the better, forever.
>yfw the village was lost to even worst extremist, radicalized by your bullshit starry-eyed optimism, and the old man was hanged by his feet after he saw his family throated...
Sources : ISIS