Earth's population will reach 11 billion by the year 2100.
What is your solution to overpopulation?
It'll solve itself eventually.
Overpopulation will become a severe problem.
Resources become scarce.
Only the most capable human beings are able to acquire the resources necessary for survival.
The humans that aren't capable die off.
by 2100 most of europe will have turned extreme right wing and got rid of immigrants
hopefully USA aswell
you know, if the west wanted to, we could literally exterminate the middle east and africa in a day once we decide they are useless
Gradually increase free market concepts to the entire world. Also teach farmers how to be better farmers. There should be food for 20-40 billion people easily just by making more food and letting the market distribute the food. There is no overpopulaion problem. There is only a problem with poor governance.
Why do I need a solution to something that isn't a problem?
>oh keeper of secret knowledge that only you are smart enough to have figured out
you're a fucking idiot if you haven't figured out that population control measures have been underway for years.
protip: wars are a form of population control
There's about 149 sq kilometers of land on Earth. Divided between 11 billion, that's about .013 sq. km per person.
But, it's a good assumption that we wouldn't perfectly divide flat land that way. We're going to build taller buildings that go up, and ones that dig into the earth. As technology improves, we'll be able to provide more calories in a denser area, with vertical farms and other technology.
I think we'll be fine
People are a value; the more the better. How rich would you be if you were the only person on Earth, and there had never been any others? Overpopulation is only a problem when people believe in sacrifice. If you don't have to pay for your neighbor's education, healthcare, etc., he's not a threat to you.
its fine your old ass wont be here anyway because ull probably die of obesity you fat fuck
the rise in faggotry will solve that problem
>traps still continuing to rise in popularity
>homos growing in numbers everyday
>people still havent realized that homosexuality is natures way of keeping us in check
next time you see a trap thread you should go in there and thank them for not shitting out babies
The war on terror (all activities from 2001-present) has resulted in AT MOST 1.2 million casualties. If you think that is effective population control you really are a fucking moron. To put that into perspective, tobacco kills 5 million people each year. But maybe that's part of the super secret conspiracy too right? The one that that only you, some random neckbeard who has nothing better to do than post on 4chan, has the intelligence to figure out
Global I.Q tests anyone dropping below 100 should be eliminated.
And also blood tests, anyone with incurable diseases that are transmutable should also be eliminated.
With the ebola outbreak in africa and 1million+ people infected and dying, we might not have to worry about that soon
>The war on terror
do you think that's the only war going on at the moment you fucking moron? wars and unrest break out on large and small scales all over the fucking world all the time.
and I said it was just one form of population control.
Everyone in this thread should commit suicide. It will also help raise the collective intelligence of the population. I can start.
Basically you're all shitty people and I recognize I am one of you too.
create a huge corporation to poison the food supply with sterilizing agents. The same corporation should make most of the world poor, and introduce a deadly virus to isolate survivors. The corporation will then execute people based on laws that the corporation itself implemented. then poison the water the survivors can access, spend all the rest of your money on turning bodies into food for the rest of the population, and send people on special missions to other planets where the chances of survival are minimal.
no need, there are vast expanses of unoccupied land. all the people controlling the government would just have to spend a pretty penny and make them habitable. with just some basic infrastructure like water pipes and roads it wouldnt be hard to set up a new city in a desert.
Oh please, educate me on the other super secret forms of population control that you have figured out when the world's journalists have failed - I could do with a laugh. The war on terror was a single (fairly good) example, you fucking afterbirth. Go to wikipedia and chart up the casualties from all the current conflicts. They are tiny compared to deaths from natural causes - Like drop in the fucking ocean tiny. If you think that is effective population control you should be sterilized so there's no chance of you polluting the genepool with your idiot seed. You are clearly too impressed by your own intellectual superiority to do any actual research though, so have fun wearing that tin hat! I'm sure it will protect your virginity really well.
Use condoms/birth control etc.
I don't see why people feel they need to have 19 kids and counting to please God.
Or we need another plague.
its about how much those people need in order to live a comfortable life not how much theyd need
sure we could all live in that small of an area ut what happens to our food supply? or water?
its not realistic
I'm pretty sure that vaccines are getting less effective, so by that point there will be some sort of plague, so I don't need a solution.
Or we can get any useful white people and let them live on the moon while earth is fire bombed.
czech em. Make more farms, make better farms. Limit meat a bit more, advocate for eating more vegetables. Growing animals to eat is very inefficient, because you have to grow the plants they eat as well. However, meat does allow for higher protein, which allows for higher brain development.
Reorganize people into arcologies. If you don't know what they are, they're basically like malls, but cities. They have their own power source, living spaces, working spaces, recreation spaces, etc. They're designed so that it's easy to get anywhere. This would be good on space, since you can now build cities in three perfect dimensions, rather than a metropolis like NYC, which is a bunch of small 3d islands, or like more spread out cities, which is basically just 2d.
Also, you dont need cars when you can basically walk like two miles to get anywhere you would possibly need.
This would free up more space for the really good farms. Also, if you make modular arcologies, you can essentially add on more and more shit as you need it. By the time you would have to worry about overpopulation after my idea is improved and implemented, we should have colonized the moon and mars n shit.
Here is one example. You don't think we'll start massproducing 'laboratory-grown' food like this by 2100?
There is no such problem as "overpopulation". Today's total population would fit in the state of texas, with only NYC density (much lower than the density in some asian cities btw).
Why haven't any of you mention Utopia?
One of the best TV shows made, and talks about this kind of stuff in the detail that everybody else is too scared to acknowledge
What Utopia now, all of you
This is a horribly misinformed opinion. If seven billion people will fit in Texas now then we add 50% to that in less than a century. Nevermind the fact that almost everyone in New Texas would die in weeks from starvation and resource deprivation because we can't even provide for the people we have now using global resources.
People in cities use less resources than rural inhabitants.
Also that Houston, of course Texas has the worst density. Amerifats being the least energy efficient country
Such a faggot. Only niggers join isis.
Sterilize 40-30% of Mexicans,Indians,Chinese,blacks,Arabs and let the white race grow up again.
Some pandemic will wipeout most people in developing nations. Asia, Africa, Middle East, parts of Europe will be most affected. It will kill most people in these areas and end up taking care of about 2/3 of the earths population.
Can't wait. Need to happen. The poorest countries with the least resources are having the most children. They deserve the disease that will come.
We produce plenty of food as it is. The problem is the logistics of transporting it, along with the political issues surrounding areas needing food.
Squeezing everyone into texas could actually make feeding them easier, since now the farms can all be placed adjacent to the megacity.
What about all the food that needs to be produced to keep them alive? All of the pollution they create by simply being alive, not to mention all of the damage every human does with their luxuries (like electricity, fuel etc.)
And everybody seems to think to solution to this huge problem is to have a bag for life, or cycle a little.
The solution is to rapidly reduce the population. Not having children is something that people will always continue todo. We need to ship billions to another planet, stop helping those who can't survive or simply commit global genocide to many, many groups
Overpopulation is the biggest problem the world has right now, and no amount of Murrican school shootings or ISIS beheadings will solve it
I think it will be much sooner then 2100.
My solution? I don't think humanity will exist another 90 years and if so, then we'll inhabit Mars. Overpopulation will not be problem
It's just an example on how there is NO such thing as an space problem for humans on earth.
And there is more than enough resources for the people today, just nobody is willing to give them for free to the lazy niggers in africa or asia.
Actually, its estimated to be 7 billion people in Africa by 2100 if we dont have a dramatic decrease in births right now. Half the planet will be black, while only 800million'ish will be white.
Imagine having an acre of land. You build a structure that takes up the full acre and rises multiple stories. Each level is full of [pic related], with the only reserved space being for proper monitoring and maintenance equipment.
You just have to build that shit.
There is no such possibility to overpopulate earth. Now, people who live on earth (7 billion) would fit in Texas state. With population density just like in hongkong.
There is no point of this thread. Feeling euphoric
Malaria, ebola, AIDS, cancer and everything else is our only hope to save the planet. Nothing can reduce population like disease.
Look up some facts about overpopulation. It will ruin us all in a few generations. Several areas NEED to be wiped out. I would volunteer Asia (huge population, huge contribution to pollution and all they provide is manpower to the world), and Africa, they're to stupid and violent to survive without help and provide absolutely nothing, also the Middle East and Russia for the same reasons, as well as the fact they only cause disruption for the rest of the world.
South America is also pretty useless.
The only places that the world that I feel are worthy of carrying on humanity are Europe, Australasia and North America
Where are all of these people coming from? Most every country in the world has basically a zero population growth, this includes china. The only major counties with a positive growth rate are India, brazil, and Indonesia.
>literally the only race better than whites are Asians
The vast majority of Asians are Chinese and the average Chinese peasant is literally one step above an African villager.
>The vast majority of Asians are Chinese and the average Chinese peasant is literally one step above an African villager.
My bad. Nips, and south koreans. I only say that since they're the only nips that do anything besides menial labor.
>The vast majority of Asians are Chinese and the average Chinese peasant is literally one step above an African villager.
>literally one step
Therm o-Nuclear holocaust...
Only 2 posts to recommend colonizing the moon. Underrated.
Staying on one planet is a dumbfuck idea at best.
Shoe us how that's feasable, anon.
It's very easy to just say it, but it's really, really fucking hard because we are adapted to live in Earth and Earth only.
It's not like in your TV shows, anon.
the logistics of transporting any large population of humans makes it infeasible. Space travel is a way to spread the human race, but not a way to move the ones already on Earth
There just was a report that the number of vertebrates on Earth has gone down by half in the last 4 decades, due to fishing or loss of habitat etc.
You're seriously naive if you think things will magically improve by then. If anything, they'll get worse. Soylent Green is coming.
>implying newfags aren't going to take over with newfriend ability to fix it
World peace, OP. Just get the USA and Israel to stop bullying the whole fucking world and maybe humanity will have the political will to start thinking in something else besides WAAAAAAR. The Earth has all the resources, but humanity lack the will to use them in an efficient way.
Yes, it's unfeasible today.
Asking me how to do it is like asking anyone in 1933 how to make a device that does what a smartphone does.
Or more to the topic, like asking them how to send a man to the moon. They thought it was made of cake back then.
The only sources of light are the sun and our lanterns and torches, powered by fire. You're seriously naive if you think someone will invent some magically more convenient light source.
Step 1: Dismantle governments
Step 2: Destroy capitalism
Step 3: Arm everyone, seriously criminals would think twice if everyone was packing.
Step 4: Lots and lots of scientific research.
Step 5: Space colonies
Mine is more of a solution for the nations economies then actual overpopulation...but
Lower age of retirement to 60 (maybe even 55). At the age of 60 you are then enlisted in the military. No more 18, 20 year olds going off to die for their country. Its people that have lived a nice life and now can help reinforce the freedom that allowed them to live their life.
Obviously there are different positions in the military, people like doctors would go on to be medics, you would still have policy makers and things. But the guy working at walmart for the last 40 years...well foot soldier. Here ya go.
This would put less of a focus to build huge wealth of millions and billions of dollars because at the end of your life, your going to serve in the military. And if you last through your assigned tour then sure, you get to retire again. But not before you put in 15 years.
White people are decreasing in numbers because of the low birthrates and high immigration. Europe will go down 200 million in numbers (This includes the 200 million while we still have high immigration) even further decreasing the white natives of Europe.
White women are too classy and fancy to have children. If they first have children its at an old age.
oh comon shouldn't someone who knows a thing about life be the one over seas holding up "American values". Do you really think some 18 year old highschool dropout really understands what they are fighting for? Right now they are fighting because they had no other choice.
nope can confirm
try gmo watumelon and tastes shit
when compared to heirloom watumelon
>What is your solution to overpopulation?
There IS no overpopulation.
There is a problem with food distribution, that's all.
That number of people in itself presents no problem to the Earth, its ecology, or to the human species.
That's exactly your point. You made the bad jump of "Nobody thought X was possible in the past. Therefore, Y will be possible in the future"
Nothing we know or expect will make a western lifestyle sustainable in the future, from either a resources or ecological standpoint. It isn't even sustainable now, let alone for double the population.
Yes....except the guy next to you might be just that capitalist corporation CEO because he hit the draft age. And lets just say, in my policy draft dodgers get to donate all of the money they made in their lifetime to the government :)
What about pacifists?
I don't know how every country does it, but where I come from, we have the right to practice our religion, and if pacifism is part of our religion, we cannot be conscripted. (mind you, we haven't had conscription in nearly 100 years)
did is gmo
You know who funds science?
In the old days, science was purely done by old rich guys who could afford to waste their time without making money.
These rich guys also paid for the private universities that only rich fucks could afford to go to.
Without government grants, science can only be done by the rich, which sucks.
Not a solution, just a suspension. Farming still uses up non-renewable resources for fertilization. Also, food isn't the only problem with overpopulation. There's transportation and consumer goods, too. Population needs to go down. Only viable long-term solution.
Meat is important for optimal health. You're a retard if you think it has no place in the human diet. Besides, cows and other ruminant animals turn grass(something we cannot eat) into meat(something that is all but essential for good health)
im in response to
if everybodies packing don't you think
well be up in eachothers business, we are modern for the most part, and if their is a cure somebody better find it, be technoligical, medical, etc.
cows are horribly inefficient, though. Produce tons of methane, tons of water, and you get far fewer calories than what you could with a different animal or crop. Steak may be delicious, but it should really only be a luxury food.
Granted my idea is alot bigger and laid out then just being a simple thing of changing the age of draft and it being a required draft.
Essentially those "pacifists" would take the place of much of the in-country basis. Running things such as logistics and things within the states. Additionally, they would be used for disaster relief both within the country and outside of it. Take the place of most/all government organizations that provide relief to third world countries.
For those with certain skills, engineering may be assigned to help improve infrastructure be it locally (within the country) or outside of it (warzone, 3rd world nation) it all depends.
Again, the idea is you have people with 40 years of skills and education in everything from advertising, math, engineering, doctors, etc. It would be a "military" that would greatly benefit from that instead of hiring in some corporation or 3rd party.
your stupid don't you listen
earths population could live off a quarter of australia, with food and shelter
it gives new meaning to the bumper sticker
"ascend already we need the space"
>implying im new
> thinks s/he's intelligent
> self righteous
> doesn't actively challenge own beliefs
I'm not going to do all your leg work, but I'll start you off.
Money buys apache gun ships and other cool stuff to kill the poor people with. So yes, Money will definitely be a deciding factor if it comes down to fighting over a water spring or whatever.
your stupid don't you listen
Just because we could all live in tightly packed shit hole doesn't mean we want too.
If your scenario came true the murder rate would be astronomical.
Yeah implementation - done the right away and being able to keep up on it without corruption is where the hard part of something like that comes. The fact your reversing age means the people going in could be million or billionaires and could try to find "$$$" ways to avoid it. But the idea would be that its not like joining the military is a death sentence, its a different type of life and maybe a bit more rigid then some would be used to.
Vacations and things just like normal would be standard. It just seems like you have a military full of 18-20 year olds who while fit, smart and a great ability to learn...you change that around to people who already have huge amount of experience in skill in a certain field.
The fitness part becomes an issue but I mean, people are living longer and longer lives where 60, descent amount of people are fit and then you take those people and they have regular fitness like in the military with regular medical checkups, etc and they can stay fit longer.
I don't care, I'll be dead.
probably by those damned robots
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It's China and India's faults. I can't take one le pic of the Eiffel cocktower without a chinafag in my way. Cut your tiny dicks off, niggers.
This is what 7 billion bodies stacked in the grand canyon would look like.
If you think we're taking up too much room, you're fucking kidding yourself.
I know why
take off the ng at the end
I'll throw another bone, look into the beliefs of john holdren, Obama's science advisor. Pic related
Too lazy to actually draw a picture, but imagine that you have 8 square blocks stacked infront of you. And as people die you remove a block and for people getting born you add a block.
Then you'd probably wouldn't gain any blocks.
Then there's factors, like war. People die at a faster rate:
About 8 million dead.
Don't forget the spanish flu in which about 21 million people died.
About 52 million people dead
The loss of vietnamese men in the Vietnam war between the ages of 15-60 was so great that there still is a generation gap.
So now there's been peace for some time and the planet has been, let's call it, "repopulated".
But as we can see, death is in the air both from possible war and disease outbreaks.
However, the problem isn't the amount of people it's the amount of killing animals for food and goes to waste.
Basically we kill more than we eat. Then there's the veggies that want to spare animals and instead eat the animals food.
And, I'm done.
1) Obliterate israel.
2) Periodic nuclear strikes on india and china. Preferably the cleanest nukes available, or neutron bombs/large scale fuel-air bombs.
3) Mass sterilisation of all negros, preferably with a genetically engineered virus.
4) Sterilisation of all extremely low IQs, genetic abnormals.
5) Enforced famines throughout south america on a regular cycle via crop spraying, river poisonings and such.
Most land is not suitable for crops - if you did plant crops over all the grazin lands, by genetic modification - the eco system would seriously fuck up and the world would become a dust bowl.
Fuck you short sighted vegan cunt.
I'd kill all women.
At least all the feminists.
Make feminism an offense punishable by death.
Make rape accusations punishable by death as well. No, by torture. Have their victim set them on fire for as many YEARS as he wants. Have a medical team make sure that she doesn't die, and keeps screaming continuously. Multiply her pain by fucking ten while she's burning. Clone her just to kill her over and over again, and put her on display every saturday morning, to show kids what happens to women who lies.
Right answer, wrong reason.
It is proven that population rate declines when there is stability.
No need to have 8 children if there is nothing killing them.
See the civilised world for proof - excluding negroids etc.
>average life expectancy for a white male = 76
>left handed = -9 years
>68 when die
> 41 more years
>dead in 2055
ill give myself a +/- 10 year span in there...still wont live to 2100
Yeah, you just convinced me - turning the entire planet into vegetarian crop fields really raises biodiversity.
Moreover when every crop is a patented sterile genetically modified type - so that when a crop plague comes, they are all wiped out.
Stop reading whatever you are reading, because I've heard all the bullshit before. I hope a bull guts you before you make his species extinct with your selfish ideologies.
interesting, i checked it out yesterday, since 1800 we have gone from 1 billion to 7 billion people, and if it goes the same way it will reach 11 or more billion people in 2100, does this mean it will be 20 billion in 2200? Either way, india has to many people just walking around doing nothing, china has alot but we need them for all the shit europa and western people wants to buy. Its a waste of people really. Its also a big problem that prevention in islamic countries is illegal wich is why each family has 6 or more kids.
Send aids instead.
A serious point though, western aid to africa etc has been constantly reducing as a percentage for quite some years - and will continue to do so.
The big players in the west know and have predicted for some time that the balance of power is changing, simply due to world populations.
future urbanism could be great, maybe there will be utopia somewhere sometime...
but we kinda know what that makes
HELL SOMEWHERE ELSE
doesnt matter since its gonna be somewhere undeveloped