>2014 >not supporting Illuminati What is your excuse?

>>571164739
> i fanny man

>Reinvented by Illuminati_Triangle for I Funny :)

i am actually a luciferian, a freemason, and an illuminist.

i know there is a lot of bullshit and retardation surrounding these organizations, and a lot of that stupidity is carefully fostered.

in reality, illuminism is nothing more than the push to remove religious authority, and institute science as the primary source of information about our reality.

nothing much has changed since the days of weishaupt, except we have mostly succeeded.

if you view night-time earth from space, you will see the true (and quite literal) work of illuminism..
which is an illumined world, both metaphorically (intellectually) and literally.


also we fund politicians and shit, but nothing sinister or evil, nor is there any significant amount of power.


but yea.. i do support illuminism, because i am not blinded by abrahamic mythologies

>>571165973
>in reality, illuminism is
And you know all of this because...?

>>571165973
it should also be noted that literally ALL the arguments that illuminati is evil/satanic/whatever is based on the axiom that the christian bible is the will of the creator of the universe.

if you are not christian, there is no argument you can formulate for the maleficence of illuminism.

not even misinterpretations of crowley referencing human sacrifice conflated with all of occultism

how do i join them

>>571166252
..for the same reason artists know about art, i suppose.

but if you are questioning the veracity of my claims, even a cursory google search on the history of bavarian illuminism and adam weishaupt should reveal what i am saying to be relatively blatant.

>>571164739
All about that shit, let me sign up.

>>571165973
Pfft, ya'll are just a bunch of fruity "angelic" dudes are are afraid of the dark or some shit.

>>571166547
fuck just go google "what is illuminism" and literally everything he said appears to be true. I might just have became an Illuminist

>>571166547
There is a lot of tinfoil bullshit on the Internet, though. Care to give me some links?

>>571166491
"A wise old owl lived in an oak
The more he saw the less he spoke
The less he spoke the more he heard.
Why can't we all be like that wise old bird?"

to be honest, its mostly just boring rambling about religion and politics...

you don't get super powers, and none of your friends will care.

it won't make you a more interesting person, and you will not divine insights into the inner workings of government.... except to see that it is almost entirely incompetence and greed...

..but you already knew that, didn't you?

>>571166986
uh.. even the tinfoil hat sites like vigilant citizen would reveal what i am saying as fairly obvious but..

wikipedia or someshit nigger, goddamn.

>>571166925
>afraid of the dark
yes.. i am very afraid of the capacity for darkness humans have.

i am afraid they will drive themselves into extinction

>>571167337
I think you have it backwards.

>>571166939
>I might just have became an Illuminist
i do not know if there is a public source where one might find the doctrines of illuminism

it might be more accurate to say you support illuminism

https://imageshack.com/a/img855/8565/po0w.gif

Gayyyyyyyy let's take over the world

>>571167449
i hope i do.

its kind of a hope for the best prepare for the worst scenario...

best to err on the side of caution, no?

>>571167337
>wikipedia or someshit nigger, goddamn.
As an Illuminist, you aren't very good at illuminating people, aren't you?

>>571165973
No your just some idiot who needs to feel important. When people refer to the illuminati, they're not reffering to a actual organization like mcdonalds. Shows how 'illuminated' you are. They're putting a term to a gut feeling. You could call them the kodefoeroeoifdokvfdojpjer if you fucking like ok? They want to control everyone's minds and they're doing that through television,media,music, and good old bloodshed. There is nothing enlightened about suppressing whole populaces you dipshit wannabe.

>>571167770
It just sounds like YOU are hiding from THEM, sounds like coward talk doesn't it?

>>571167708
>Gayyyyyyyy let's take over the world

who is is this "us" you want to let take over?

>>571164739
I don't support the easter bunny or the tooth fairy, either. Are we done here?

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They are everywhere

ass eyes

>>571167934
Them, faggot

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All the superstars are stars for a reason

>>571164739
The eye represents the third eye. The third represents your thoughts, your vision, your imagination... they want the world to think this belongs to them. and many peoples thoughts are controlled every second of every day until they die.

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No no no... not just sports. They have actors too

>>571164739

as you must know, they are of course a complete fabrication

either that, or they're doing a completely awful job at running the world

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>>571164739
http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/beheadingokbusted.html

met

>>571167823
the information i gave was accurate.
if you are discerning enough to check it for accuracy, you should be intelligent enough to have a methodology for doing so.

but to answer your question, no apparently not.

>>571167828
>When people refer to the illuminati, they're not reffering to a actual organization like mcdonalds.
actually most are referring to the illuminism doctrines that spread from adam weishaupt to freemasonry (as documented by george washington, of all people)

i could understand how your lack of familiarity with illuminism, coupled with a tenuous grasp of english comprehension could lead you to such an erroneous conclusion

>They want to control everyone's minds and they're doing that through television,media,music, and good old bloodshed.
sounds pretty damn organized for something that isn't organized

>>571167884
in what way am i hiding?
and who is the "them" i am hiding from?

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>>571165973
KIKE
give me back my pure aryan dignity
>sage
>SAGE

yes they exist, and they've controlled your life from birth. You should be pissed at whoever told you and be trying to bully them for telling you. It's your nature to shoot the messenger.

>>571168667
Nevermind.

>>571167828
>There is nothing enlightened about suppressing whole populaces
there is nothing suppressing about illuminism.


>>571168135
lol well that clears EVERYTHING up
thanks for the elucidation

>>571168330
>The eye represents the third eye.
actually it is derived from the eye of providence which is the all-seeing eye of god.

this was derived from the egyptian eye of horus, and if you are familiar with the theology of horus, that transition is pretty understandable.

there is some intriguing evidence connecting the eye of horus to the thalamus/pineal and connection from the pineal to the third eye but....

that is all very new-age stuff.

it wouldn't have been considered a thing by anyone before the 1800s

although it does make descartes' reference to the pineal a tad more intriguing

>>571168528
they neither are a complete fabrication (though most the shit you hear is fabricated), nor do they run the world.

>>571168834
i am non-jewish, and what you would mistakenly call "aryan"

>>571168874
its also nature to disregard crazy people spouting demonstrably false nonsense.

Illuminati doesn't exist.

>>571168667
lol I understand english better then you. It's as if everything i said flew over your head. It's ok, your not actually enlightened, so it makes perfect sense it would.... When people refer to the new world order or the illuminati, unless they're in a goddamn history debate like your fucktarded ass, they're refering to a INTUITIVE feeling that is the result of a group of people controlling us. They are organized you fucking idiot they control all the corporations, doesn't mean people know exactly who they're referring to when they bring up the NWO or Illuminati or 'a secret society controlling us'.... Because they're not a club like the fucking mickey mouse club. you moron, they don't have a customer service hotline... god your so little minded.

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>>571169824
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati


do you even historical facts?

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>>571169852
Get a load of this guy.

>>571169650
look its a single eyeball and that refers to the third eye. screw your punctilious attention to detail. Use your intuition, mr illuminated. They flash it around like a goddamn gang symbol, what else would i take but that they're acting as if they have ownership over the third eye? I mean they don't let people use their own thoughts. everyone is a hollywood drone faggot for satanism.

i'm not a le epig illuminate maymay xD fag

>>571169852
>people refer to the new world order or the illuminati

when people mention "the new world order" in the same breath as the illyoumenaughty, its 100% guarunteed that almost everything, if not everything they are saying is bullshit.

>they're refering to a INTUITIVE feeling that is the result of a group of people controlling us.

paranoid schizophrenia =/= intuition
>they aren't a group, its just organized control of the world

this is backwards as fuck, in reality it is nothing more THAN a group, with little influence and almost no real power

>>571170353
what a intelligent response, what do you want... some attention mummy didn't provide??

>2022
>illuminati doesn't support me

What is its excuse?

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>>571170718
areyoushittingme intensifies

>>571170496
>screw your punctilious attention to detail
sorry for knowing more than literally nothing about symbology.

you can't just project your own interpretation of symbolism, and call it symbological fact

if you look, you see it is actually the left eye (There is symbolic significance, traced back even to egyptian depictions)

why would the third eye be the left eye?

that makes no fucking sense.

>>571170720
>illuminati doesn't support me
how can you be so sure?

>>571170648
100% guaranteed based off ? prejudice. your prejudice. oh so we're going to replace the christian prejudice with your even more rigid NARCISSISTIC prejudice? there you go un-enlightening the people again with your narrow minded view of things. Sure, all intuition is schizophrenia... lol... your just... soooooo enlightened. So enlightened you just said your inner voice is schizo. so ya good job on that. sorry just because your a schizo and your hiding it doesn't make every intuition a delusion.

>>571166491
Delete System32

>>571171707
>100% guaranteed based off ?
demonstrable fact

>>571171005
Ok, I get it, a book of facts is the authority over your living soul. you're not capability of being your own authority and figuring things out yourself... hey guess what...?? your the same as all the brainwashed drones, only diffirence? you got a stick lodged ten miles up your urethra

>>571171707
>so we're going to replace the christian prejudice with your even more rigid NARCISSISTIC prejudice?
the pitfalls of science are infinitely less, and infinitely more shallow than the pitfalls of religious dogma

science is guaranteed to be wrong, which is why it has an built-in self-correcting system.


i didn't say intuition is schizophrenia.

in fact that is the opposite what i said (Which was that paranoid schizophrenia DOES NOT EQUAL intuition)


which is why you should ignore the schizophrenia, and listen to your intuition instead

>>571171974
you can't demonstrate that fact you fucking idiot, if you could you'd do it. Your just toting it around like a fact, cause like i said, your the schizo

>>571172292
>a book of facts is the authority over your living soul
there is no soul
there is no authority.

there is only learning through quantification.


but this has literally NOTHING to do with your inability to research symbology

>>571172452
>you can't demonstrate the fact that timecube isn't real and their aren't four simultaneous days

i can, but if you are too deluded to hear my refutation, it is futile.

>>571172326
uh huh and your saying that everyones intuition that we're under the control of a nefarious force with bad intents is schizophrenia, based on what? who the fuck are you? oh you read a couple weishaupt books? oh you know how to spell his name correctly? well aren't you just so special

>>571172523
>there is no soul
Another belief (or lack of belief) presented as fact.

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>>571172452
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>>571168330
learn to tl;dr

>>571170648
>paranoid schizophrenia =/= intuition
>>571171707
>Sure, all intuition is schizophrenia.
>So enlightened you just said your inner voice is schizo

Is this nigger being serious?

how can you be so retarded to argue against the opposite of what someone just said

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>>571164739

>2014
>Not operating for the Black Watchmen.

Get on my level, faggot.

>>571172523
lol ok so now your the authority on the universe, ok thanks NEW GOD

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>>571172969
do I see a treasure map hidden in that scan

>>571172693
you didnt say anything about a timecube fuckface you said that everyone who said the new world order is 100% guaranteed bullshit. well guess what, after saying something that bullshit, the only one bullshit now is YOu

>>571172815
there is no evidence for a soul, how is that?

there is no evidence that beside you right now is a unicorn right now consisting only of dark matter and neutrinos.

but you couldn't definitively say it doesn't exist...

>>571172805
>uh huh and your saying that everyones intuition that we're under the control of a nefarious force with bad intents is schizophrenia

really this should be up to your psychiatrist to decide, but that sounds pretty indicative of archetypical paranoid schizophrenia to me.

my intuition only says that people like you are retarded..
so i listen to that.

no but seriously you should consider psychiatric help.

i am not trying to be condescending.
i think you can be fixed

>>571172815
exactly

>>571173040
>not knowing the origin story of the scientific method

/b/ i am ashame.

maybe i should make less subtle references

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stoners work for the illuminaughty confirmed

>>571165973
Do you believe in a God?

>>571173184
i was using an equivocally stupid argument, to demonstrate the fallacy in your reasoning.

i am unsurprised you did not comprehend this

>>571173339
>2014
>believing in fairy tales

>>571173202
>but you couldn't definitively say it doesn't exist...
Exactly my point. I'm an atheist, but these unicorn arguments never seemed convincing to me.

>>571172892
hey anothernobody, just wanted to let you know, you don't know wtf ur talking about. he thinks that people all intuiting that there is a NWO is schizophrenia, ya based on what? no its not its intuition, so therefore, he's labelling all intuition as schizophrenic because he's saying that a whole giant block of people intuition is just schizophrenic... ok so what else does GODMAN tell us our minds think is a delusion?

>>571173497
i have met what could very well be the creator of all of existence, but i could not epistemologically justify my belief in such a deity.


so i took the path of true skepticism

i am skeptical to belief
and skeptical to disbelief.

so i am your archetypical atheist.

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>>571173789
>all this crazy incoherent rambling

i don't think you are helping your case or proving your sanity.

>>571173202
hahahahaha but i'm not the one with a severe case of being a fucking loser nobody gives a fuck about that needs to read some illuminati books so he can feel smarter then everyone? aka a fat little shitbrain narcissist

>>571174054
bug semen kike faggot

>>571173845
>i have met what could very well be the creator of all of existence, but i could not epistemologically justify my belief in such a deity.


to clarify, yes i am sane, and no i was not sober.

indeed i was on a number of entheogenic substances.

i realized how crazy that sentence sounded out of context when re-reading it

>>571173610
of course i comprehended it. and i pointed out how bad of a comparison it was. I can't believe you didnt get that.... I can believe you never responsed to how delusional it is to think 100% of ppl who talk about the NWO are bullshit... because of course you don't want to face your wrong!

>>571174054
Took me a second to get

>>571173845
I ask because i have heard that all freemasons must believe in One supreme God. Is that true for your lodge?

>>571164739
My organization is more powerful.

>>571174171
Correct.

>>571174132
i never implied that i was smarter than anyone.

in fact i wouldn't even say i am above average intelligence.


you very clearly are retarded, so i won't compare my intellect to you, lest i ACTUALLY come off as narcissistic but..

fact checking a crazy paranoid retard when he spouts nonsense isn't about narcissism or superiority.

its about making sure nobody takes the crazy guy in the room seriously

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What most people need to understand, is that the actual organisation holds little power. It's the people within that matter; not the title of their unification.

People in powerful positions (high detail bankers, lawyers, military personnel, religious leaders, CEO's ect ect) attract people of the same statue. They don't interact as much with people less influential from a face to face value.

That said, when these people seek a certain room to discuss their humane views (religion, sex, politics, economics, ect ) they will converge to a similar standing organisation.

That organisation then also makes sure it holds the same quality regarding the guest-list, and nature of pricing and social interaction.

It could be any organisation, with any name. Although the historical fact does hold some signifcance of course.

>>571174058
I didn't come on 4chan toprove to a loser like you im sane. I'm obviously better then you, personality and intelligence wise.... so time to take the low shots ok i can do that... your a dumbfuck did no one tell you that? ok well now you know... does it hurt? does it not fit with mommy and daddys lies? awww ur NOT a special person after all.... awwwww

ITT : Disinformation about the NWO

>>571168752

Thats hindu fggt

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>>571174719
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>>571174171
no, its "insect facial jew retard"

how could you not get that?

>>571174349
>I ask because i have heard that all freemasons must believe in One supreme God. Is that true for your lodge?
almost universally, it is true

some blue lodges accept agnostics (which are atheists, lmfao) but generally you need to at least claim a belief in god.

at the time i was an initiate, i was a believer, because i had not yet studied epistemology.


but you could fool them into thinking you sincerely believe in a god when you don't

it isn't terribly difficult.

>>571174591
this guy mostly gets it


>>571174719
oh i did not mean to imply you must prove your sanity to me.

i was saying it is I who must prove your insanity to everyone with a double-digit IQ or higher

>>571174509
ya well same too you. and guess what? nobody took your serious. nobody thinks your in the illuminati fucking wannabe fagtard. why don't you go copypaste some more egyptian google articles or some shit you lame tard.... ROTE memory doesn't make you smart, your just like a annoying parrot to a real genius like me.... oh don't you slaves always call us insane? lol yes you do, they always call the creative genius's insane in their time... so more FACTUAL proof im the sane genius, your the ravenous lunatic, not that your false self illuminist wasnt bad enough for your sanity plea lol :D

>>571174896
>implying all isn't brahman
tat
tvam
asi

>>571175187
>nobody took your serious
:)

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>>571174349

I can answer that question.

Only the French sector of the Freemasons don't require you to believe in a supreme creator. This actually fueled some debate between the other countries' lodges. However, every country has their own right to organising. It's not unified on a low-key level.

As the majority of the lodges, it is requested that you believe in a creator; a supreme architect (architech: as a reference to Masonry in a historical context).

A religion is not needed, as you can be "spiritual" but not organised in a group.

>>571175083
>but you could fool them into thinking you sincerely believe in a god when you don't
Why would you want to do that? Why would you want to be part of an organisation which doesn't share its beliefs with you?

>>571175187
>calls himself a creative genius
>is neither genius nor renowned for creation
calm down, kanye

>>571175083
ya dat guy gits it he's in my illuminist club too. we meet and suck eachother off and talk about how like we know more then everyone and like omg everyones so dumb for thinking anythingif it isn't gaytard approved by us with our cocks in eachothers mouth. ya, im in the freemason,im illuminati, and like we're good guys. were here to enlighten stuff, thats why in space um you see lights on erf cuz we r lighting up duh planet. ner science is win ner. thats you in a nutshell

>>571175590
well there are many writings in masonic libraries you cannot find elsewhere.

and just because you are atheistic doesn't mean you can't be fascinated with theology.

also if you want to learn ancient symbology or heraldry, joining the masons is basically a necessity.

but i am not saying "hey you should all come be a mason, you atheists"

so much as "an atheistic freemason is not unheard of"

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ssshhhh. i can hear you.

>>571175594
how would you know ? your a common idiot, def not 1 to judge :) proof? you just said renown proves creative capability... lol faceslap... u wannabespecials r gonna have ALOT LOT LOT LOT 2 learn

>>571175642
that IS me in a nutshell.
how very apt.

clearly your creative genius is manifest in your caustic parodies

>>571176030
>i am such a creative genius that nobody has even heard of my work

woah.

..were you doing that before it was cool?

>>571175642
keep being urslf anon

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>>571175083

What would you suggest that I don't fully get; I am genuinely curious My explanation was a rather stout view.

If you believe the actual power human consciousness holds, and how it can manipulate the world, then of course, you have a better view. The higher you go in degrees, the more you see ...around you.

>>571175642
Please continue. I laughed HARD. hahahah oh man.

>>571176035
ya thats why your so pissed off and bitchy. it really shows how deeply affected you are wittle guy.

>>571176281

butthurt much kid?

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>>571176392

He's so butthurt his asshole is forming a triangle. It's hilarious.

>>571176392
you said nothing, not suprising, your nothing. :D

>>571176279
actually that description is incredibly accurate, i have no criticisms.

the "mostly gets it" was more a caveat should you end up saying something retarded i could disassociate myself with you.

but yea, nothing you have said is disagreeable

>>571176281
>it really shows how deeply affected you are wittle guy.
horribly, deeply affected.

this was insufferably traumatic.

i think you gave me PTSD
brb seeking psychiatric help from the butthurt of 4chan

>>571176689
>still can't read IDs
d'awww so cute

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>>571176689
> :D
> Please pic related

>>571176653
sure i guess if you all get together and agree i'm butthurt, i can be in your delusion little heads. I'm so butthurt I have a mind and your all brainwashed... owwww it hurts so bad... PLEASE fill my head with societal brainwashing so i can be a stuckup knowitall with all of you enjoying the fruits of my labors AKA NO LIVES. and no not because your on 4chan, because you're so fucking dumb now you literally spout nothing but memes I was actually using when they mattered.... lol... hey i get it your a major loser with a major coolness complex, time to get on here and play catchup

>>571176964
i don't want him to go back to plebbit just yet....

this thread will be boring without the village idiot to mock.


just make sure to keep leading him on so he thinks he is mocking you and feels encouraged

he seems to only get funnier and crazier with each post

>>571177050
>major coolness complex
or "MCC" as the disorder is known in the psychatric biz...

>>571176929
too bad all they're going to give you is some retarded serotonin uptake inhibitors. But you don't care, because ALLLLLLLL ARRBBITTTRRAAARRRYYYY AUUUTHHHOORRRITTTYYY OVER ME IS RIGHTEOUS AS LONG AS ITS NARCISSISTIC... you in a nutshell again. excuse my creative genius, he just knows you better then you yourself know yourself :D

>>571177050
>memes I was actually using when they mattered
aw yes... gone are the days of significant memeing

you insignificant memers

i meme harder than all of you, because of my (completely UNHEARD of) creative genius

>>571176964
lol why do you need like little pics and memes to comprehend my personality? i was on 4chan before you faggots came here to be copycats and have your 'cool' moment

>>571177264
>thinking i would actually get PTSD treatment.

lmfao...

you are right, who needs SSRIs, when i can just extract and ingest my own RIMAs?

peganum harmala alkaloids, anyone?

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>>571176715

Haha. Alright; good to see another enlightened person, so to speak.

I find it laughable that such a large extent of modern literature regarding the Freemasons and the Illuminati circulates around the suspicion and suspension of a NWO type plan.

First of all, such a plan is more handily invented by other organisations in more strategic military positions.

That said, eg. unification of currency is been said to be one of these plans. Any organisation full of high profile bankers/CEO's would deem it in their best interest for this to happen. So I can see where it stems from.

It's similar to associating satanism with pure evil. You should look at the people, after all, as they are the ones who instigate the portrait behaviour. Not their ideologies in their literature.

What makes you cringe the most regarding the entire accusation-atmosphere around this?

>>571177438
>i am so oldfag i brag about having been on 4chan for too long, instead of feeling a deep shame, and pang of regret knowing 4chan probably turned me gay

no... you don't sound like an oldfag at all.

>>571177421
ahahahaha, yes if your a genius, you have to be on the tv huh? whose to say i want to be heard of? Obviousy, I'm the greatest sight of intellect you retards have seen in awhile. Otherwise how come the immense interest? oh ya, cus i r dumb huh. sure keep calling the lightning rod dumb, your gonna get shocked though

>>571177438
Because you're about as well-rounded in personality as a picture made by 4chan and memefags.

>>571177548
of course i didn't think you'd actually get treatment... and if you actually thought i thought that.... goddamn, wtf do they need you for? your fucking clueless to interpersonal dynamics true meanings lol

>>571177901

still butthurt?
been like 20 minutes xD

>>571177564
>>571177548
one question for you sophistifags : if you're not on top of the organization, how would you be sure to know the plan?

I truly think you're manipulated, that's why you're the best sellers of your shitplan

>>571177802
aw another professionally trained psychiatric expert from the 4chan peanut gallery! surely, I'll heed your fucktarded advice, loser.

>>571177564
>What makes you cringe the most regarding the entire accusation-atmosphere around this?

..that people actually take david icke genuinely seriously.

even though the only think the reptillian annunaki alien bullshit is based off are sitchin's sumerian translations which are PROVEN wrong beyond any and all doubt (in fact, you could disprove the scripture yourself, without ANY background in philology whatsoever, just using the online sumerian cuneiform library)

despite the fact he claimed to be the son of god
despite the fact he says aliens rule our planet (via illuminati ofc) to harvest gold for their planet
despite the fact he says those aliens have been here for 15k years (they can travel inter-planetary distances, but they can't mine earth's gold in under 10k years)
despite the fact he has made TONS of demonstrably false claims

people still take him seriously.

he will die, and there will still be fools who consider him an agent of truth


its more than a cringe though.

it is an existentially-horrifying quandry

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>>571177761

This is a leap in the dark, but I am going to attempt it anyways...

Anon, what makes you lash out in such a way? If you aren't trolling (seems like it), and for the sake of a conversation; what makes you think the accused organisations are what they are depicted?

I've seen the entire lot of conspiracy theories. Nearly all of them. Most seem very incoherent and emotional. Some have some truths and others might be true.

However, the presentation discourages most people. Including the way people respond when they are challenged on their sources.


There is always little room for debate. So, tell me, what accusations stand tall?

>>571178280
ner ner ner you know everything ner ner ner you know what happened on earth 100,000 years ago even. you know exactly what happened little mr special pee brain knows it all

>>571177761
>keep calling the lightning rod dumb, your gonna get shocked though

creative genius indeed.

>>571178117
because there is no top, when incompetence prevails!

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>>571178467
>All of your posts
my nigga

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>>571178558
YOU MOSTLY SOPHIST ACTUALY

>>571178467
>you know everything
nope, didn't even come close to making that claim

>you know what happened on earth 100,000 years ago even
nope, didn't even come close to making that claim
>you know exactly what happened
nope. didn't even come close to making that claim

the only claim i did make is that sitchin's translation is demonstrably false.

and you can verify that yourself independently of any and all bias (Except your own, ofc)

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>>571178117

Very wise and somewhat true statement.

However, the top and the bottom is a very thin veil. Once you realize it's only literally a few doors away, you don't see the barriers. Works a bit like rich vs. poor, in laymen terms.

Also, the philosophy and rituals are findable, and imaginatable when you know the full scope of the inner workings.

My end-point: the Snowden files (and documents before that, of 2008 and earlier) were released too. And are findable.

It's just that you need an eye to tell what is BS or not. Logic helps.

In the end there is no other sure way, of course.

>>571179094
be careful, i hear you can get sophisticated

>>571179245
>not knowing snowden is an illuminati agent of the apocalypse

HAIL SANTA!!

>>571178418
i lash out this way because the big stink ass narcissist in the room always wants to tell everyone they're wrong for their intuition... because of some factoids he's deployed to back his cause, facts that he only looked for to back up he already engrained prejudice against anyone who doesn't want to be a loyal slave like himself. oh and why am i being a troll? oh nobody is allowed to feel anything and have a conviction nowadays? a troll is a term weak minded people apply to anyone with intellect dissent against their arbitrary intellectual authoritarianism. YES... i do HATE idiots who come on here to say' actually the illuminati is good because ner ner ner' ok sure, totally ignore the reality of this world you schizophrenic delusional idiots. Um as far as too emotional, ya well guess what we're emotional, we're opressed, knowledge is hidden from us, we don't know the FINE FUCKING DETAILS and we DONT NEED TOO because we're humans and we're psychic spiritual beings. We know because of intuition nudges us with the reality because its CLEAR AS FUCKING day this world is under nefarious control but weak minded people like mr illuminst here dont want to face that theyre cowards and would rather hide from the truth and tell themselves alls well in hell because some fucking book proved one little factoid you looked for to be true... wow good job !

>>571164739
What point does the illuminati has? And if any, to what end?

>>571171725

I just can't fucking seem to stop laughing.

Who did this? Who made my night?

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>>571179665

>>571179137
ok so theres mountains of evidence of alien visitation outside of stitchin dingbat your just looking to scapegoat stitchin for the purpose of validating your worldview to yourself lol

>>571179665
>>571179665
you aren't wrong for your intuition

you are just wrong.

there, that should calm you down

>>571179137
oh btw, why bother arguing with a CRRRAAAAZZZYYYY person? oh ok, your just a shit slinging unintellectual loser like everyone else cool got it my bad

>>571164739
I would.

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>>571179848

>>571179675
Are the rituals true? Are you all very quiet and wear hooded robes?

>>571179951
i never said aliens don't exist or haven't visited us (though having seen UFOs on tryptamines, and given that humans have taken tryptamines as long as there have been flying beings depicted, i think drugs are suspect)


i said david icke's explanation of annunaki was based only in sitchin's work, and sitchin's work is demonstrably false.

>>571179985
why?

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>>571180208

>>571180118
>oh btw, why bother arguing with a CRRRAAAAZZZYYYY person?
because your insanity is more entertaining than a reasonable person saying perfectly reasonable things

>>571164739
HOLY SHIT TOO SPOOKY

>>571180292
Of all the public places to discuss this, why 4chan?

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>>571178280

David icke is just a small scoop of the icke-berg.

However, some of his ideologies aren't that morally wrong, and he has a few truths here and there (from what I remember). The problem is, like with many of these advocators, that they mix a tremendous amount of factual info, with pure rubbish. That, and they are prone to jump to conclusions. Of course, if you sell conclusions as a profession, you can't expect much else from a market perspective.

What makes it worse it that these people stain legitimate research and theorists with interesting axioms.


For example, after years of reading, I came to a point where I consider the UFO/alien phenomenon, and it's claims, plausable. I must add it is coupled with a lot of legitimate research papers, were-under the absolutely terrific French government research report confessing the legitimacy.

However, these "tin-foils" add a lot of strain to the community, and overflow it with fear, dissolution and such. No realistic debate.

>>571180471
because the things you say are not correct.

>>571180348
I TOOK DWUGS 1 TIME N S0 NOW HOW POSSIBLE 4 IN BILLIONS of DUH PLANETS 4 DUH LIFE 2 SPAWN except ON DUH ERF.... I SOOOOOO UNIQUe FOR BEING DEVILS ADVOCATE AGAINST COMMON SENSE... you again

>>571180514
uh huh, I'm not insane, its called having a conviction, something a spineless coward like you will never have. oh and i really mean it.

>>571180640
yea.. nobody talks about the chiles witted encounter when the USAF concluded it was an extra-terrestrial craft.

they talk about the "Crazy lights" that billy-bob saw, and it "wasn't just the mushrooms, neither"

>>571165973
>blinded by abrahamic mythologies
le edgey

>>571180675
prove it

>>571180640
why my only way to get replies is to b8 newfags?

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>>571181068
Do you even read your own posts, nigger?

>>571181219
no i just write them... because thats possible huh?

>>571181359
>Writes
>Doesn't proofread his own shit
>GG
K. WORK HERE IS DONE.

>>571180736
the problem isn't life occuring on other planets

there could be life as near as europa

the problem is the immense distances that need to be traveled, for no apparent reason.


there is a reason that every single legitimate scholar looking for alien life isn't combing through the history books


but i didn't take drugs one time, i took them many times.

i only had a UFO come land on a lake not more than 30 feet from my face once

and it was only when my 5-ht2 receptors were being agonized by exogenous tryptamines.


...tryptamines that are known to have been ingested by humans going back into prehistory


what is more likely, an alien spends hundreds of years travelling to a random planet in a random outer spiral arm of a random galaxy, just to fuck with a human (no reason to suspect we would be more interesting than say a birch tree) for ten minutes, and then spend hundreds of years going home......


...or a guy does drugs and sees things commonly reported by people who do drugs?


i realize occam's razor is a fallacy but.. come one

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Olmintany

>>571181553
so GTFO

>>571181068
prove that i am wrong when i say there are 4 simultaneous days every day because time is a cube spinning around earth?

>>571181640
you know it all, again, how impressive

>>571181640
>...or a guy does drugs and sees things commonly reported by people who do drugs?

unpossible, it was aliens.

giorgio tsoukalos said it, so it must be truw

>>571169852
>god your so little minded.
>god your so
>your

>>571181835
no but i'll prove your way to gay for me by replying

>>571181969
>implying i said that we know definitively what happened

i only offered two possibilities and asked which was more likely.

>>571182137
>your way to gay
my way to gay?

where is gay? and how is there a way to it that is exclusive to me?

also thanks for confirming that you can't disprove a statement that is laughably wrong.

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>>571179665

Thanks for your strong reply.

First off, let me clear up why some people react to you in the way you are describing. You come of a little presumptuous, meaning that you immediately think I am not aware of the control schemes in media, politics, scientific research, ect. That, and you assume I am here to lighten the accusations of the organisations. I am not, in a direct sense. Also, your emotional responses are understandable to me, but not to everyone at every time of the day. That's why I, for example, reply a little less garish.

The point I made earlier >>571174591 reflects well on that. My point is that the people who are in the organisation should be looked at. Eg. CEO's of Monsanto, or the military industrial complex. You probably know the tune of the jingle by now.

The presumption that the entire organisation's agenda is that of the people, can allude you that the people are not to blame.

It's a bit like the anology of the leader of a terrorist group; if you remove him, you still have the group. The people within matter more than their literature and rules.

Don't forget, they write the rules so you can break them. They won't be a shame to break those themselves.

That said, on a spiritual side, the things get very different. An agreement on this side is ... more powerful.

I don't support a jewish banker cabal. The CIA shadow gobbament, on the other hand, seems alright.

>>571182384
>addressing this loony sinceriously
decided you needed an exercise in futility today, eh?

>>571182161
so you saw it on drugs? what about the none drug influenced sightings? 100% guaranteed schizophrenia bullshit again ??? or are you running on the assumption everyone is a pathological liar?

>>571182691
>what about the none drug influenced sightings?
theoretically those could still be explained by endogenous tryptamines (monomethyltryptamine, dimethyltryptamine, 5-methoxy-dimethyltryptamine, et al)

but i make no definitive claims either way

http://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/the-world-of-mind-control-through-the-eyes-of-an-artist-with-13-alter-personas/
This is a very good article about a woman's battle with the mental health issues that come from satanic ritual abuse aka Mk ultra programming.

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>>571182557

I honestly find it amusing and interesting to debate/talk to someone of a different stand point, with strong values. You get more honest replies in some occasions.

Besides, I don't want to make a hypocrite out of myself by acting back in a similar fashion. More than ironic.

Btw; what tryptamine did you ingest? Dimethyl ?

>>571182986
>according to this crazy person, the paranoid conspiracies ARE ALL REAL!!!

well the proof is in the pudding, then

>>571172969

+40° 27' 7.5846",+93° 44' 31.6248"

>>571182929
sure so could your this very conversation dude...

>>571183057
>Btw; what tryptamine did you ingest? Dimethyl ?

that day it was a combination of peganum harmala alkaloids, and 4-hydroxy-dimethyl

>>571183123

Even in the FBI's released files there is proof of Mk ultra it is all documented. They say they stopped, but why would the government stop something like that? Some so powerful.

I have first hand experience with someone who came from a satanic family. It is terrible and happening everywhere.

>>571183268
>sure so could your this very conversation dude...

i feel like you were attempting to formulate a coherent sentence......

..but it is hard to know for sure

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>>571183268
wat

>>571183479
mk ultra was a real project.

the mind control bullshit is mostly fabricated.


but i don't see how the fucked up behavior of the CIA (operation mockingbird, for example) are relevant

and even that artist doesn't make claims about the government controlling minds.

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It makes the Elites feel very comfortable to look down and see masses of stupid people, including Freemasons.

>>571164739
because revolution was a shitty series.

>>571182384
well good for you, your a grey grab drone just like everyone else... I know i know, bite my tongue and don't exist because it might make the mcdonalds gobbling lady gaga loving retards who play a ted talk once they reach 20 to figure out how to sound smart.... OH NO! i might hurt someones feelings for expressing my real thoughts without walking on eggshells for there infantilized egos... truly a ILLUMINATED SOCIETY, huh mr illuminist?(oh ur not mr illuminist btw... its the guy who said he's illuminati) Ok i get what your saying otherwise and i'd tend to agree obviously its pretty damn basic... psychopaths know psychopaths and they click up and work together.

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Just to put a different topic on track which has been already slightly covered;

The UFO phenomenon has been through history excessively recorded with at times remarkable accuracy, and similarity. That, and in the last century, and this one, it's been found back on so many documents, and such a quantity of personnel have come out to testify, that it should not be brushed away that easily.

What I find most interesting, and presumptuous, is the disagreement based on the reason why they might come here.

As of first; if a species is capable of such remarkable technological feats, then a snark question why they would come here out of all places, is too vague. After all, we (SETI) are looking too, and we have a much smaller estimated technological scope.

Further, the actual consequences of mankinds technological advance could pose a threat to ourselves and those around us, especially if you look at the incremental grow rate of technology, and the capacity of energy. The quantum flux comes to mind. Of course speculated, but not unable to exist.

>>571184371
i love when people who don't know the definition of the word "ego" talk about it.

>>571183565
well use your enlightened iluminated illuminist light light bulb head .... and remove the 'your' GOOD JOB YOU FIGURED IT OUT!

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>>571183412

You took Psilocin with a MAOI/Harmaline rich plant? Interesting, especially from a chemical standpoint.

What was the source of the Psilocin? Usually your body creates this in the chemical reaction of Psilocybin.

>>571184639
i love it how your the enlightened one, and you've resorted to ad hominen attacks

>>571184641
>implying that makes the sentence coherent
nice try.

if you are suggesting that this conversation is the product of endogenous tryptamines, that is actually true.

serotonin, specifically, is what is causing you to "hallucinate" reality

welcome to the wonderful world of neuropharmacology

>>571184639
i'll talk to you again after you get over your butthurt, you can't address any of my points, so your obviously just in this to feel smart, well enjoy it theres a bunch of retards you can post all about how you know it all and your in the big boy club k?

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In Freemasonry, the symbol of the arm and hammer the Mason as the Builder, as “man at work” creating the heavens and the earth. Thus, man becomes a god.

>>571184989
>implying i insulted your person
i like how you don't know what "ad hominem" means

>>571184986
>You took Psilocin with a MAOI/Harmaline rich plant
yes, very similar to pharmahuasca

What was the source of the Psilocin?

psilocybin was dissolved in ascorbic and citric acid.

the acidity dephosphorylates it into psilocin, and the ascorbic acts as a reduction agent, both preventing and reversing oxidation

>>571185167
>you can't address any of my points
its funnier to let you think you are right. because everything you say is so obviously insane its not worth refuting.

its just lulzy

>>571185248
becomes A god, or becomes one with god?

>>571185306
also it was extracted alkaloids from the peganum harmala, so it wasn't direct plant ingestion.

the nausea is far too overpowering.

isolating the alkaloids reduces the nausea.

i highly recommend it

they've not sought my support as far as I'm aware

>>571185007
no shit fucktard, I've known that then longer b4 you decided to pretend to be interested to sound smart to cover up for your inherently flawed personality.... oh and yes it did make sense, that's why you replied to it. because it made sense... you're crazy acting like things that make perfect sense don't... THATS INSANITY. um ok, so this conversation doesn't exist too you because serotonin. errr.... ok ya, trust this guy to get us out of a giant social head fuck that is todays society.... sure.... the guy who doesn't even believe anything is real. why? cause no book told him it is yet. lol

>>571185469
Becomes a god.

>>571185723
>this conversation doesn't exist too because serotonin

that was never implied, and is a gross misunderstanding of neuropharmacology and epistemology both.

>>571185306
uh you just said i don't know what ego means, thats a insult to my intelligence. therefore, ad hominem... r u a lunatic? yes u r a dumb 1 2 :)

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>>571184371

You explained clearly by this post why a lot of people don't find it desirable to debate with you. You seem to immediately wash over my formally constructed response, and attack me, on the presumption "i am one of them", so to speak.

I even tried to negate that stance in my last reply.

You must either be trolling or really thick (hard to talk to).

>>571184989

Also, this is very ironic. You must be trolling.

To prove you are not, please reply with less "you such dicks bla bla" type accusation reply.

>>571185469
ok i'll just let you keep answering your pretend fans, ok mr special illuminati ? your still the lunatic that thinks that this conversation doesn't exist because serotonin. lol moron pretending to be smart, how adorable

>>571185723
>the guy who doesn't even believe anything is real.
to be fair, someone versed in epistemological solipsism would probably be more intelligent than yourself

>>571185809
tat tvam asi

do you truly not know that all is brahman?


you sound like a fear-based religitard

>>571185935
you said ufos don't exist because tryptamine exists in our brains. thats what you said. gross misunderstanding? ok then clear it up. oh but wait your not here for that, your here to build up your fan base for pretend club.

>>571186229
>your still the lunatic that thinks that this conversation doesn't exist because serotonin
i am not sure if you actually think i believe this because you are unable to comprehend english...


...or if i am being trolled

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>>571186003
no its cool, your a idiot, its hard for you to speak genius. no offense taken. Quit being a parent, btw, you're too emotionally immature to be my parent.

>>571186531
>you said ufos don't exist because tryptamine exists in our brains. thats what you said

the things you see on hallucinogens like dmt are not as real as the things you see on serotonin

though both are tryptamines.

also there is no fan base on an anonymous website.

just because everyone collectively mocks you doesn't mean they agree with me.

it just means you are so blatantly dumb that everyone can feel comfortable in giving you shit

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>>571185809
>>571186429

To be very honest, "becoming a god", and being absolutely one with god, can be regarded a synonym at that point.

In both cases you revert to the act of creation, you as a creation, and the progression/history of yourself being a creation.
captcha: flheyein shapeless

niccce.

>>571186429
I do not believe in god. I do believe in the evil of mankind, although not in a religious sense.

>>571186429
ad hominem again.... but lol you don't you said you think aliens come from your brain. You also said you think 4chan comes from your brain. lol thats u, the great overmind of us all huh

>>571186959
>your
>its
>genius

hmm i think we all got rused by a master ruseman

surely nobody can be this dumb...... can they?

>>571187001
ya the pack of peasants never stoned the genius before.... thats it. its cus i r duh dumb 1. dey rly dont like duh dumb 1 cus dey duh smart 1s huh?

>>571187174
>you said you think aliens come from your brain
no, i said they come from drug-induced hallucinations

>You also said you think 4chan comes from your brain

not in the least.

although all of your perception of 4chan (and all of consensus) reality is something that exists only in your brain (as elucidated by decartes' demon/brain in a vat thought expirements)

>>571176035
*fedora tips on it's own*

>>571186959

Stop being so childish. You, and anyone in this thread, will forget you and your simple attempts to raise an informal discussion.

Within 24 hours I will hardly remember your frantic ramblings. Why contribute?

Also, trolling on /b/ is exceptionally gay. It's been done for years, and it's old.

The term "trolls trolling trolls" was there for a reason.

>inb4 "not i am not a troll" "you are x, y and z. ect ect"

>>571187180
why are you so mad at me? i'm just a squirt of tryptamine in your brain bro remember? sure gotta alot of emotional attachment to a glob of gooey brain fluids bruh

>>571187441
>the genius who can neither speak properly, nor provide an argument that isn't laughably retarded

seems legit.

though really literacy would make your case for intellectual superiority a bit less laughable.

its fun to see the dunning-kruger effect in action i can see why it tickled john cleese so much

>>571187465
You're a dumb ass. There are extra dimensional beings and also extra terrestrial

>>571187465
cus u and descartes said so ya

>>571187671
me thinking that you are a troll =/= emotional investment

>>571187774
i must be a dumbass, i fail to see the relevance

>>571164739
i would have to say ... those are some pretty dang good donuts if you're the community college stoner in the thread below.

pot heads love the sweet
drunks love the savoury
sobers like ... both.

>>571187964
How can a drug summon an alien? Where would it be summoned?

>>571187572
lol @ u being the thread mommy. I answered your dumbfuck inquiry anyways so i don't get what your problem is.... I said, yea, psychos click up. run the press lol you figured out a tiny tiny bit about subjectivity... yay for you! if you were actually in it for a intellectual debate instead of just being a big infant crybaby youd continue with a reply instead of shaming me for not tending to your weak ego and need to fweeeeellllll smart. Ya, well I think your dumb as poop about now

anyhow, nice talking to you guys.

I gotta go now. Cyyaaa!

>>571187964
still won't answer the perfectly reasonably stated debate because i didn't word it nice enough for you.... awwwwww. so butthurt

>>571187850
>cus u and descartes said so ya
no because that is... how perception works.

you cannot perceive but through perception


>>571188071
>pot heads love the sweet
>drunks love the savoury
actually the "munchies" induced by phyto-cannabinoids is nigh indistinguishable from the hunger catalyzed by ethanol ingestion.

both are caused by lower blood sugar, and thus are pharmacologically identical (though the mechanism for lowering the blood sugar is distinct)


and in reality EVERYONE loves savoury and EVERYONE loves sweet.

and if you like both at the same time, i cannot recommend this recipe highly enough:
http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/anne-burrell/bacon-wrapped-dates-stuffed-with-chorizo-recipe.html

especially if you mix the chorizo stuffing with manchego cheese.

its one of the simplest appetizers to make, and it is of quality you could expect in a 5-star restaurant

>>571188160
Where the fuck did you get that.

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>>571187774
well said well said. Plus he's buthurt

>>571188532
>>you said you think aliens come from your brain
>no, i said they come from drug-induced hallucinations

>>571188160
>How can a drug summon an alien? Where would it be summoned?
i don't know how, but i know for sure if you ingest enough DMT, you will see entities more alien than you could imagine.

or you could take mushrooms a couple dozen times, and there might be a crap shoot you will see a UFO up close.

a number of psychonauts i know have reported similar incidents

>>571188160
I can see relevance.

All I've got to say in this matter is even the most experienced Freemasons under the 33rd degree are still MAJORLY misinformed.
Once you turn 33rd you discover a lot, like every level up to 33 was just a diversion test.
You may think you have all the answers and your logic is legitimatized by your labels, but in this universe in which you of all people should know anything is possible in, your just as lost as the sheep.

>>571188519
says you, the knowitall who says the erf is enlightened because in space you can see lightbulbs. lol dingbat

>>571188432
>perfectly reasonably stated debate
ok, you are DEFINITELY a troll.

there is absolutely no way this could be serious

>>571188757
are you sugge

>>571188863
This man is correct.

mods are proly going to delete this thread because it doesn't support feminism or have ponies in it
>mods are faggots

>>571188757
if you are suggesting those are mutually inclusive, you are fucking retarded.

colors come from your brain, and they aren't drug-induced hallucinations

>>571188762
>i don't know how, but i know for sure if you ingest enough DMT, you will see entities more alien than you could imagine.
that is a 100% guarantee, btw

it might not happen the first time, but it will fucking happen


>>571188924
>who says the erf is enlightened because in space you can see lightbulbs.
i never said anything of the sort.

you are horribly misrepresentative.

either that or you just plain don't understand wtf i am saying

>>571188762
sounds fair I've heard that enough. I'm interested in the actual way it works. Sucks many people don't know about it

>>571188762
therefore, no aliens, by mr knowitall in the illuminati(aka a very peaceful organization controlling the erf for its spiritual advancement through various means such as miley cyrus, lady gaga, and mcdonalds to name a few. don't worry, we'll be enlightened b4 ya now it boys) ..............idiot

>>571189203
thread is almost 3 hours old lmfao.

>>571189346
>thinking miley cyrus and lady gaga are agents of oppressive illuminism

lmfao no wonder you are so retarded


guys these pop stars control the world through mind-control because aliens

i am not crazy, i am perfectly sane and reasonable

>>571189215
if you view night-time earth from space, you will see the true (and quite literal) work of illuminism..
which is an illumined world, both metaphorically (intellectually) and literally.

YOU=THE ERF IS ENLIGHTENED CUS LIGHTBULBS.... lol

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>>571172969
wanna be -_-

>>571189596
don't start trying to copy my format of my typing. I know i'm the most enlightened soul you've met in awhile... but hollywood brainwashed you wrong, cause because i'm your superior doesn't mean i want you to copy me. go develope your own sense of self please

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>>571170718
>this gai
>very kek

>>571189870
>i own the patent on satirical misrepresentations of other people's arguments
good to know

>>571189596
the nwo thats being formed is going to consist of zombie like dumbed down humans and robots.

>>571189870
>your own sense of self
lol you googled the definition of the word ego since i called you out on it.

see? you are illumined after all!

>>571190361
ok so you think everything is all good because the illuminati exists, your in it, and lightbulbs light up the erf from space... thats what i summed up from you so far... oh and u were copying me buy ok keep pretending you have any individuality.

>>571190706
ok sure, another fact of yours? was that weishaupt or crowleys work? or dingbatbungholeshitamuchers?

>>571190679
just wait, once 2012 happens, and nibiru comes to establish the NWO, then all you non-believers will see.


also statistics showing scholars have a significantly lower rate of believing this bullshit isn't indicative of education trumping paranoia..

its indicative of academic brainwashing...

because obviously.

>>571190706
are you wanking in front of your mirror right now?

>>571190724
no i think there is a group of people working to end religious retardation.

nothing more nothing less.

>>571190920
actually that ontology predates crowley and weishaupt both.

though both are great reads (crowley is obviously an esoteric wackjob who believes in a bunch of stupid bs, but its still worth reading, imo)

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>This thread

>>571191075
no, but only because there is company over.

>>571190949
we don't need to wait and see. its already here. you're insane.

>>571189870
The people believing in the Illuminati is people who simply is socially denied, and has a need to feel like the smartest person in the room. You answer to comments like this one with personal insults, and denial, because again; you have a need to feel like you are right. And you want to believe it so bad, that you make little stories about crazy little Jewish people controlling, and brainwashing all of us. But not you of course. A twisted nut probably smoking weed and reading internet stories knows best. Of course.

>>571191378
i am glad i am not the only one in here who thinks this is the funniest thread all week

>>571191207
huh? all i was saying is your stupid ass really thinks i googled ego. awwww, are you mad someone else has intellectual discourse in this universe and its not subservient to yours?

>>571191395
eh 2012 happened?

ok then y2k

THAT is when the aliens come and the world ends.

i am calling it

>>571191549
oh ok, thanks for explaining that all to me. now i too now exactly how the world works. thanks

>>571191549
>implying illuminati jews don't control the world because of jay-z

RETARDED IGNORANT SHEEPLE CONFIRMED

>>571191608
i KNOW you googled it, because your earlier posts were using the word ego in such a way that you CLEARLY had no idea what its definition was.

then i mocked you for it

and after that you used it correctly.

but i am sure that is all very coincidental, and you are infallible

>>571191706
now your just being dumb. Nobody said anything about 2012 or y2k. damn strawmans now too? ok this is pointless. enjoy your happy go lucky delusional world!

>>571191834
knowing how people are retarded =/= knowing how the world works.

also i told you i would show to everyone how insane you are.

now precisely nobody takes you seriously.

but i am sure illuminati is why you aren't a winner

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>>571191834
>>571191942
>Pic related

>>571191942
>>571191834
I actually think you are legitimately this stupid.

If not, 10/10 troll.

If you still use ifunny you really need to fucking die

>>571192061
>now your just being dumb, nibiru is fine, but 2012? outrageous

lmfao...

>>571191942
>OH NO! i might hurt someones feelings for expressing my real thoughts without walking on eggshells for there infantilized egos.

explain to me how i CLEARLY have no idea what the definition is or the propose use of the word? seems like your just hoping i can't repost faggot... oh ya and ERF IS ENLIGHTENED CUS IN SPACE U CAN SEE LIGHTBULBS ON---still havent addressed how fucking retarded that was yet

>>571165973>>571165973
>in reality, illuminism

the worship of image, the fostering of puppet politicians,,, these are in direct opposition to reality. They supplant the indoctrination of just another way around what true reality is really.

Nobody wants reality in this world, hog wash they crave it and don't know what it is.

example
at work the manager tells the underling, "do it this way, its the company way"

underling knows this is stupid, everyone falls in line eventually....

indoctrination to sustain life, rather than working at a job where you have satisfaction and a lively hood.

Its all been taken away by the city builders, they pulled us away from the farms and peaceful life of a time long gone and we can never get it back...tear drop.

Iluminati mason,,, spit

>>571164739
makes me want to go down to harbord and bathurst for some of these deep fried, glazed tasty treats. on second thought...not a pot head any more.

>>571192371
>implying that usage relates at all to an ontological perception of a "self"

are you for realiously right now?

>>571192432
i meant bathurst and harbord

>>571191706
“We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years......It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supernational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries.” -David Rockefeller

“This regionalization is in keeping with the Tri-Lateral Plan which calls for a gradual convergence of East and West, ultimately leading toward the goal of one world government. National sovereignty is no longer a viable concept.” -Zbigniew Brzezinski

>>571192420
>the organization fighting to end religious indoctrination is indoctrinating us all

mmk