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>The quest for Zodiac continues

Part 1 is now 100% complete. The solved message was the beginning of a new sentence. Part 1 ends with VWYP, confirmed for geocode for Tracy, SF in America (and only in America, anon, you can stop posting in our threads).

A different method was used when decrypting the 18-character string. If this sentence does indeed continue into part 2, it's very likely that the same method can be used to decipher part 2 as well. So that's what I'm going to be doing.

In the meantime, all systematic lists of grammatical errors in Zodiac's writings are appreciated, and analysis of the map and crime scenes (patterns, predictability, mathematical relationships).

Old thread:
>>570154525
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> John 10:15-38New King James Version (NKJV)

15 As the Father knows Me, even so I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep. 16 And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd.

17 “Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again. 18 No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This command I have received from My Father.”

19 Therefore there was a division again among the Jews because of these sayings. 20 And many of them said, “He has a demon and is mad. Why do you listen to Him?”

21 Others said, “These are not the words of one who has a demon. Can a demon open the eyes of the blind?”

The Shepherd Knows His Sheep
22 Now it was the Feast of Dedication in Jerusalem, and it was winter. 23 And Jesus walked in the temple, in Solomon’s porch. 24 Then the Jews surrounded Him and said to Him, “How long do You keep us in doubt? If You are the Christ, tell us plainly.”

25 Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father’s name, they bear witness of Me. 26 But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you.[a] 27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30 I and My Father are one.”

cont.
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>>570178626
Renewed Efforts to Stone Jesus
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. 32 Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?”

33 The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”

34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods”’?[b] 35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), 36 do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’? 37 If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me; 38 but if I do, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, that you may know and believe[c] that the Father is in Me, and I in Him.”
cont.
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Our map so far.
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>>570178341

Ok OP I don't want to waste your time, but I got on a few minutes ago and saw this. Can you run me through what's going on here, tl;dr version, because this has my solid interest.
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I seriously need to drink some coffee and brush my teeth and stuff. Starting to hear music playing, but it disappears when everything's silent. ;_;
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>>570178704
I think the Zodiac had a god complex is why I posted that and relation in to what >>570177390
posted 10:15:30 had a relation to these verses, and seeing as he was a narcissus looking for recognition.... .
But I believe 10:15:30 could be a locker combo
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>>570178341
i will assume you're still OP
im defending but-questioning-you-stoner-spanish-speaking-guy
also bump or whatever
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>>570178743
Sure. There's a cipher by Zodiac that was never fully solved. There were 18 remaining unsolved letters. Today I succeeded in solving their meaning, and it's the necessary step to be able to solve the second and third parts, which have never been solved at all.

Anons are now theorizing, contributing knowledge, helping with finding patterns and stuff like that. The Zodiac killer was pretty elaborate.
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>>570178732
Can I get map at a larger display?
I wanna check streets and interstates besides those shown.
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All the geocoding pictures I posted were from the U.S.....posting from a vpn in m.e. right now..
The geocode thing makes doesn't pan out...your theory isn't bad, but trust and believe the geocode thing is the wrong path.
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>>570178945
Excellent, I always knew that bastard was tricky. So, unsolved (and possibly undiscovered) remains are around the suspected areas and points on the map?
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>>570179040
>>570178341
And now from the Ip I was geocoding caps from
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>>570178975
It's a very rough sketch, /b/ro. Not precise enough to match up with exact tiny roads and other landmarks.
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>>570178341
damn anon, i saw the start of the 1st thread earlier today.. like 11 hours ago.. you slept yet?
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>>570178743
op claims to have deciphered something about zodiac, 18 characters that were still a mistery
apparently those characters read - i quote. op paraphrased - like:
>There was a girl feeding fish in Blue Rocks VWYP
OP found that some geolocation thing made VWYP ponit to Tracy, CA, near Mt Diablo and Tracy supposedly is the place in which a victim escaped from Z.
People used Tracy to orient a compass Z made to find bible verses?
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>>570178975
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?oe=UTF8&ie=UTF8&msa=0&mid=z09UX1kqiMEM.kEJUweGjE0oY
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>>570179276
>Claims points to Tracy

Sorry, but is wrong
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>>570178341

whats part 1 say then faggot
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>>570179148
It simply confirms an already known point. The planned murder failed, so it was never marked as a crime scene, but I think it should as that was obviously his intentions. In addition it sheds a new light on how to solve part 2, which I'm gonna attempt right now.

>>570179239
Nope. I'm literally hallucinating visually now. It's weird. But not feeling sleepy, the quest for Zodiac doesn't stop now.

It stops if I get nowhere with part 2.

Captcha: singmea cartoons

>>570179276
This is basically it.
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>>570179443
wut?

I think that, if OP wants to get some credibility he has to say how did he find what he says he found, what exactly did it say, how does it help with the other still encrypted messages and several other things.
face pic if you want the credit i guess
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>>570179742
Gotcha, I'll skim around any excess info that may be of use. To the best of my ability, that is.
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>>570179040
If you are in Germany and you get German areas while those without a VWYP area in their country get California, it's obviously not the cartographic system's fault. The values are what they are. Zodiac didn't live in Germany or anywhere but the US. He didn't care about how Germany arranged her citizens. Zodiac cared only about himself. And America. Bless

Basically, you keep finding some bullshit, abstract thing to criticize, something without substance or logic or even actual existence. The fact that this guy who doesn't live in America ends up in a German system instead doesn't say anything about America's system, now, does it? It sure does not. Google is not the keeper of areas. The internet is not the keeper of areas. Countries are the keepers of areas, and Germany is not in America.

Also, if you accept "There was a girl feeding fish in Blue Rocks" as more than an astronomical coincidence, how can you consider the following VWYP landing on Tracy a coincidence? That's astronomical, guy. That's apocalyptic, buddy. You're gonna live many eons before that happens.
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If someone knows a lot about Zodiac, could you tell us what would this mean? What does it tells us? And, if it's not much to ask, maybe a quick description of the relevant incidents or parts of the story you might mention
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>>570179758
I've explained that providing BOTH the exact cipher AND the exact (or even approximately right) decryption means anyone can calculate how to solve it. If you discovered this, you wouldn't simply let it free immediately without any thought at all either.

I'm at least gonna try to solve part 2 before I release the method.

Unless you're gonna be doing deciphering of your own, you don't need to know the method, and you really only need paraphrasing.
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>>570179758
The last thread shows op doesn't have a basis for Tracy, other than that google geocode indicates that VWYP is the code for that city. You are missing important info about that conclusion.
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>>570180224
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>>570180460
you should really go get a few hours sleep mate.

>>570180524
baw i only have an iq of 128 i no caz super secret chat club?
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>>570180524
>>570180524
>>570180524
GET IN

30+ of us geniuses with 150+ iq in here
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>>570180224
>Show Me How Vwyp code Was Assigned to Tracy...
And when?
>Show Me VWYP = Tracy Any. where. But. Google. Geocoding.

Btw, what Is Your 4 Letter CitY Code?>>570180520
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>>570178732
>>570178975
>>570179169

Fuck, dudes. Here's the star map for June 26, 1970 at exactly 10:15 AM PST, as seen from Mt. Diablo.


Coincidence?
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This is my third Zodiac hunt thread lurking. Also in the /sci/ thread.


Godspeed based OP.
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>>570181154
Here it is alone.
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>>570180989
Gee, I don't know my 4 letter city code...
That's weird...
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>>570180460
I'm still on your side, mate. I'm just pointing stuff out. Guess now we know we're back to waiting for you to deliver?
I'm >>570179758. Power failure, idk if I lost my ID.
>>570178787
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>>570180524
>ZodiacHunt
Relax, he's likely dead by now.


>>570178341

One thing of this all gets me... Z used a lot of massonic code reference, overlays, everything on the map was obtained pinpointing / rotating / cutting piece of sheet, drawing lines, connecting dots, rolling dices etc... This is his style. Why should he get so technical and give us coordinates to a given place ???
Based on this thought, I don't think those 4 letters belong to an encoded place. OP, are you supersupersure that it's a place ?
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>>570181154
I don't see any relation.
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>>570178341

omg i solved it bro :3
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>>570180524
OVERLOAD

>>570180989
This is probably the 20th time I've explained this at least. Here we go again.

After encrypting, what I had was a message. At the end of this message were "VWYP". I had no idea what this was, and I had no bias towards it. I tried to see if it was an acronym by using acronymfinder.com, but none of the acronyms were relevant. I noticed the "location search" function on the site, though, and I entered VWYP with no expectations. It took me somewhere, and when I scrolled out, I realized I was directly east of Mt. Diablo.

VWYP is a geocode.

That's how VWYP was assigned to Tracy. Such a coincidence doesn't happen. It's almost impossible. If you're gonna say that's not the intended meaning, you must also say that the rest of the message was complete bullcrap as well, otherwise you're basically saying the gods are mocking us with astronomical coincidences.
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>>570181441
It outlines stuff like San Francisco, crossroads, where the murders were, and there's a big fucking arrow of a constellation pointed towards Mt. Diablo.
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>>570181490
10/10 lul'd
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>>570181532
stfu kid ur nothing

my iq is tested 155 range
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>>570181370
>4 letter city code
It's not a city code, though, it's an area code. Geocode. It's used by the government and postal service while most don't even know the system exists. I didn't know either until today, and it sure took a while until someone knew what was going on.

It's fitting too because the suspect had military training in cryptography and showed a big interest in cartography as well.

>>570181154
It's never coincidence with Zodiac. Zodiac plans it all.
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>>570181532
Go to bed
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fuvk....
He used Masonic imagery?
Then vwyp means more than I thought
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So what happebs after you solve it you'll find the zodiac and talk to him? Or he's dead?
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Why don't we move all discussion to /sci/?

>>570181997
He's most likely long dead, but this could lead to some major findings.
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>>570181385
If you're waiting for me to type out step by step how to crack the 18-character string, you'll be waiting quite a while. I'm currently trying it out on part 2.

>>570181649
Rude

>>570181838
Couldn't sleep if I tried

>>570181997
He's up with the gods now. He has berried his secret so deep into the matrix whoever can pull it out will be crowned autist
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It>>570181748
Yes...An area Code with 4 letters and, wait.... doesn't thaT sound familiar?
HmmmE
Mmmmm
Gee whiz...I Can't think Of it.
guess I'll Catch some 90210 reruns Instead
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>>570182280
I'm sorry, I can't understand what you're saying.
2cryptic4me
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>>570181532
Maybe its the name of a local business?
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>>570182237
yup, i just realized that
actually, if you're being honest, that's probably not gonna happen until we read all about it in our fb feeds, so, keep the /sci/ post alive or set some external place for us to refer to when you have something to say or need a recap of the 404d threads
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>>570182650
All this has been considered and has caused a lot of turbulence in our threads. No, they're confirmed geocodes. VWYP and VWUP are interchangeable and will both lead to Tracy (dead center of area, not on a business or building of any kind).

At first I was pretty disappointed with having leftovers that didn't make sense, but when those leftovers turned out to confirm it tenfold, it felt good. Kind of spooky.
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>>570181154
>>570181387

I still think geocoding is the wrong way.
This is what I get connecting the dots,
VWYP, on a quadrant, clockwise, each letter (or constellation) is on each portion of the circle he drawn. Actually, you can make 2 guesses where the V could be. I think this could be a better track, based on previous work done with his messages.
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>>570182918
explain
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>>570182918

you know when they say "a picture is worth thousand words" ? well, this should be the case, if you knew how previous code was solved, you'd shit brix.
Or maybe it does not mean anything, but still a nice cabala
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>>570181748
>>570182280
>>570182504
Area Code For City = ZIP CODE
Implemented starting In 1963
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>>570181387
If it's not intended as geocode, it's simply a coincidence less probably than winning the lottery twice in a row. But there's always the possibility.

I just mean that considering he started the whole map with radians and magnetic north and stuff, that he wouldn't have a problem showing off his super rare military geocode skills. I'm actually wondering if the reason it hasn't been cracked earlier is because no one really knows about that system, and this time it was only a coincidence that I discovered that it wasn't nonsensical, but represents one of Z's exact crime scenes. That's "probably" not coincidence. And I would rather assume he uses all the cartographic methods he has in his arsenal, including geocode, than ignore the fact that the 4 seemingly pointless letters were more directly related to Zodiac than anything else. I think the geocode path is the right way to go. The odds are simply enormous in comparison to anything else.
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>>570181490
underrated post
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>>570182878
oh, i forgot, it was relevant in the moment but w/e, i saw somewhere an image of the area, theres a grid with names for the squares, one's called diablo, other is called tracy, and theres several others
might have something to do with why vwyp=tracy? something else entirely that is still related to it?
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>>570183516
A geocode isn't a zip code. They have different functions.
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>>570183667
it is
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>>570183780
The relation is that Zodiac was planning on using Tracy as one of his murder sites, so he put a clue in the cipher. If they had cracked the cipher and figured out that it's geocode, they could have prevented that murder. The murder failed, though.

So yeah, he mapped out this spooky zodiac shape on the map and noted the geocode (probably had a cryptic feel to it back in the days) and put it in his cipher as a clue. That's all, really, so when you crack that code and find that geocode and it happens to represent Tracy, you can be pretty certain that it's not coincidence.
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>>570184064
In this very moment I am euphoric...
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>>570183423
keep explaining
it might just be that OP is right about everything 'cept for the geothing yet he still pointed in the right direction
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>>570183825
>>570183540
What does a geocode do?
>How are they assigned?
>What is the geocode for Cleveland?
>How did Z know VWYP = Tracy?
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>>570184331
this was supposed to be the pic, still, that other image kinda feels appropriate
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>>570184331
>'cept for the geothing
What's the basis for this assumption? You can't ignore the fact that Tracy is tiny, tiny little patch of land on a huge globe, and that the code leading to this was four letters from a ZODIAC CIPHER "coincidentally" leading to Tracy. It's just not possible.
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>>570184442
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geocoding

>>570183423
Keep investigating this. Why would he not project the constellations exactly like this? The problem is finding the right scale I guess.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZJt7TFMA8I
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>>570183540
>less probably than winning the lottery twice in a row

Why ? Assuming your previous cracking on the code was right, and you still end with VWYP, I find more logic to be bound to a "connect the dots" riddle, rather than pinpointing a location via coordinates. Z showed more interest in mason and symbolism, rather than military skills.
If you look at my picture, there are several elements of consistency:
> overlays (star map and landmap)
> connecting dots (constellations/stars)
> quadrants (each letter is on its own)
> the green square with the dot in the middle
(ok the last one is far pushed maybe...)

What is in support of your theory ?
> supposed military preparation (where else in his clues does it show?)
> casual (and indeed rare) match of VWYP with tracy

Look at the previous clues, how were they solved, then look again at what I've drawn. I find it muh consistent.
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>>570184521
I'm not assuming it. Dude, do you know how IDs work? I'm on your side. I think you are right, BUT maybe, just maybe...
Also, how can interested people find more about this later? I know I am quite interested in this and I want to know more about it, even if it drags for hours I want to come back. A BTSync folder maybe?
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>>570184521
We found him years ago. The FBI knew enough to decipher what you have.

When we caught him we were forced to detain him only to find out he was the son of a national politician.

We were forced into secrecy and Zodiac was jailed for the rest of his life and written up as POW/MIA.

Nice job, though. You'll have visitors within 12 hours.

Just be honest and forthcoming, for your sake...
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>>570184764
>connecting the dots
But that's pretty much impossible when all you have to work with that isn't part of a sentence is VWYP and you have no idea what to do with it, no expectations. No abbrevations. VWYP has no meaning besides "Vote With Your Penis" and Tracy's geocode.

It's profound how improbable it is that the geocode match is a coincidence. That was the moment of realizing the code had been cracked.

>>570184868
Sorry, man, I'm very sleep depraved and I keep misinterpreting things.
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>>570184694
EaT code Faggot:
https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/geocode/json?address=Torun&components=administrative_area:TX|country:US&key=API_KEY
#
# Returns
#
{
"results" : [
{
"address_components" : [
{
"long_name" : "Texas",
"short_name" : "TX",
"types" : [ "administrative_area_level_1", "political" ]
},
{
"long_name" : "United States",
"short_name" : "US",
"types" : [ "country", "political" ]
}
],
"formatted_address" : "Texas, USA",
"geometry" : {
"bounds" : {
"northeast" : {
"lat" : 36.5007040,
"lng" : -93.50803900000001
},
"southwest" : {
"lat" : 25.83716390,
"lng" : -106.6456460
}
},
"location" : {
"lat" : 31.96859880,
"lng" : -99.90181310
},
"location_type" : "APPROXIMATE",
"viewport" : {
"northeast" : {
"lat" : 36.68395670,
"lng" : -91.70601210
},
"southwest" : {
"lat" : 26.99809190,
"lng" : -108.09761410
}
}
},
"types" : [ "administrative_area_level_1", "political" ]
}
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>>570185235
wacha mean?
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>>570185409
Why post this?
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Found it.
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>>570185678
He's trying to throw you off op don't fall for the b8
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>>570185313
>connecting the dots
>But that's pretty much impossible

I mean, LITTERALLY connect the dots !
If you connect the stars of those constellations, you litterally obtain those letters VWYP.
What does it mean ? I don't know ! It looks like another clue, another part of the code to crack, or just see what's there in the green spot in the center of the square. Are there any golf fields nearby ?
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>>570185678
No secret 4Letter Code.... In The cOde for Grocoding...
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>>570185784
Oh, lel. Misinterpretations everywhere. That is kind of spooky. But that's not really a clue on Z's part, though, is it?
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>>570183423
Additional note: Those aren't V, W, Y and P as much as zodiac characters:

http://zodiackillerciphers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Sfchron340cipher.png


Anyway, I found two promising routes on the 340 cipher. I'll see where it goes.
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>>570185678
>>570184694
>>570184521
>>570184442

https://developers.google.com/maps/documentation/geocoding/#ComponentFiltering

Google code has No component to enter
area Code....
Read and Weep...

>>570183825
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>>570185313
>>570185784

You say that VWYP <-> Tracy is winning the lottery... what about my picture then ? Assuming that pic is
>star map for June 26, 1970 at exactly 10:15 AM PST, as seen from Mt. Diablo
how many chances are there that stars align within the symbol he drew on the map, each in one quadrant, in the precise clockwise order ? And possibly indicating a known symbol (square with dot in center) that was part of previous code decyphering ?

> But that's not really a clue on Z's part, though, is it?

No idea, I'd look into the position pinpointed by green dot at first. I don't know what part you made it to crack, maybe the VWYP is just the key to help you understand the first part ?
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>>570186396
>tl;dr
what about it?
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>>570186882
>>570186396
>>570185870
>>570185784
>>570185678
>>570184764
>and, the reason why 4 letter area codes sound right...
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>>570180520
SHUT. UP. GEOCODE PROVES VWYP = TRACY.

STOP. RUINING. THE. THREAD.
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>>570186396
?

>>570186882
I mean, it could be a clue if it says something about direction of rotation, and a lot of things really. We have two routes to investigate in any case.
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>>570181532
Mang, take a print screen of this post and whenever the non-believers start bitching, post tinypic url of img instead of typing = save time
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>>570186885
Some very silly people think the letters VWYP are a secret code, because when they enter them into a spacial map program the city of Tracy shows up. But, the silly google computer is just trying to make sense of nonsense letters.
When you look at the dev code for.the gepcode, there isn't a place for a secret area code, only the normal city, state, zip, that kind of stuff.
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>>570187083
No. And. You. Are. Wrong.
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>>570182280
wut._.
THEMGICOIC
???
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>>570187156
>direction of rotation

not sure what you mean... If I got it right, the direction of rotation is clockwise, but it's not really a clue for me. Does it change anything for you ?
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>>570187592
It can always change something. For example if the decryption is supposed to be done in a spiral, you need to know which direction to go.
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Closer than I thought you guys would end up.
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> ITT: Zodiac Killer finds 4Chan and wants to reminisce and prove clues to his identity since the person arrested and eventually put to death really wasn't him.
> Death Bed Confessions of the Zodiac Killer by moot will be a best seller turned box office smash.
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Method 1 failed on part 2. Trying method 2.
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>>570187359
Please stop.
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>>570187898
Dead end, keep going though!
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>>570187013
what is this?
http://www.uspostalbulletins.com/PDF/Vol84_Issue20268_19630627.pdf
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>>570187083
Accept that you have been cock blocked from getting into Tracy and move on
>mfw I found a "blue rock" reference near one of the clock hands that make sense.
>found it while looking for other VWYP meanings....
>mfw I think you are at least partly right
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>>570183917
kid shut the fuck up
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>>570187946
If both turn out to be dead ends, I need to try doing it vertically and figure out if a new element was added, like one shift per character or similar.

Can only try over and over again until the first line makes sense.
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>>570188094
Going to save you some trouble, there was, and no it's not as simple as one shift per character. Have to go now, will be back in about four hours, interested to see how this progresses.
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>>570187936
My Pleasure.
(You said Please!)
Bye....
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>Zodiac's cipher are the lyrics to Skyrim's theme song
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>>570188035
Stfu, don't you know ANYTHING about the ZK? Don't you know the meaning of 'Blue Rock'?
If no, then Stfu.

I' ve been following different decoders trying to crack the ZK's letters for a long time.

Peace, bro, but you are only making things worse. And I don't believe you found fuckall.
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>>570188206
>Going to save you some trouble, there was
?

>no it's not as simple as one shift per character
That's of course in addition to the method I'm using. Otherwise this would have been solved within half an hour.
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>>570181490
this is it... its solved
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I've got a raging clue
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>>570178341
Don't give up the search and eventually you will find the Zodiac. I'm Fox Mulder. The truth is out there.
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>>570188307
Okay, I was going to be disappointed. There is hope yet.
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>>570187592
>>570187781


so... nobody checked the green spot already ?
Just checked myself... apparently it's St. Tracy Boulevard.
Our roads are going in the same direction, eventually...

My keks
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>>570188350
what do YOU know?
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>>570188267
Wrong...Found A Connect Between Geocoding InThe 60S And a California College And A Blew Rock Reference, Not confirmed As related to.Your boy.

And I Don't EveN Care About Zodiac....
just Can't Stand to See people make Such An embarrassing Mistake...Kinda makes me sad to Watch
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>>570188743
here m8 got something for you
>>570188080
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>>570188743
>no relation between Blue Rock and the Zodiac Killer

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lS9D6w1GzGY
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>>570188743
Blue Rocks is where Zodiac killed a couple, I believe.
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>>570188968
I'm out...but, your responses should say, "why yes, there was a fundamental flaw in the theory. Thank you for caring enough to address it with us, so we can more profitably focus on achieving the end results instead of being distracted with bad data."
Thank you for allowing me to show you the errors you have made.
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google thinks
VWYP = VWUP = Valley West Union Pacific, California
which is a rail crossing in Tracy
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here. guess what Chistopher Walken was/is zodiac killer.

check the dates he was in SF

the end.
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>>570181490
Noice
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>>570189730
huh... look at this:
http://www.uspostalbulletins.com/PDF/Vol84_Issue20268_19630627.pdf

page 8

apparently that early system abbreviated stuff in a very simple way, and apparently the y and the u are quite interchangeable
maybe VWUP is:
-another intentional typo (the Y)
-actually yes, a location marked officialy by the gov that the location service got his hands on and decided to implement
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>>570189730
Both are accepted geocodes for Tracy. Don't make the mistake of using Google Maps, you should be using a specialized app. Plain old Google Maps doesn't show geocode areas.

Method 2 on 340 cipher looks promising so far.
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I just wanna point out that the ZK was an educated man. His language - grammar and spelling skills - is perfect for about 85% of the time, but here and there he put misspellings to throw people off, make the investigators think someone of less education was writing.

I don't think misspellings in his letters mean anything, unless they are in a cipher.
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>>570190510
Plain old Google Maps DOES take you there:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Union+Pacific+Railroad,[email protected],-121.3819678,12z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x809c8b643858bd1d:0xb62661b9281ddfa3
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>>570190928
No, they mean something, they were necessary to solve it. They were planned.

>SLOI DOWN
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>>570191071
That's a physical entity, not the center of the geocode area like VWYP is. They're basically the same area, but are very different in an abstract sense.
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>>570191262
see:
>>570190221
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>>570191143
Agree
>>570190928
those misspelled words have a meaning, clues, like 'paradice', in a way or another, they are part of the solution. I don't think they were made to fool investigators, as most of the symbolism known to him denotes his high education and knowledge.
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>>570190131
Why do you have to be such an edgy faggot and post that picture?
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>>570191404
NOTHING to see there, pls stop derailing thread
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>>570191653
k
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>>570191071
>still doesn't get that we are talking about geocodes and not googul maps

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New information, guys. Here's the original 18 solved characters without the expanding information. Figured this isn't enough to calculate.

>f f b u s h d o w n l a k e v w y p
What is FF? Forest Falls?

Keep in mind that vwyp stays the same after expanding into sentence.
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>>570191964
Fullfrontalbushdownlakeveiwplaza
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>>570180224
I like the way you express yourself. Keep up the good work i actually think you are going to solve this thing. I'll try to keep up with the threads but i'm sleepy and lack your enthusiasm.
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>>570191964
offi
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>>570181490
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>>570182237

inb4 it turns out that OP is actually Zodiac who is alive after all, who grew bored knowing that no-one ever solved his elaborate puzzle and turned to /b/ having lurked hear for years (if Zodiac was alive, of course he'd be a /b/tard), lurked cicada and thought, maybe these autists can do it so I can finally rest.

OP/Zodiac probably has ebola or something and wants his legacy revealed before he dies.
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MISSPELLINGS

The Bus Bomb letter of 1969
http://www.zodiackiller.com/BombLetter1.html

* comitt = commit
* entirle = entirelly
* descise = disguise
* efective = effective
* boughten = bought
* efect = effect
* wipeing = wiping
* clews = clues
* som = some
* bussy = busy
* useing = using
* cruzeing = cruising
* cicles = cycles
* abot = about
* supicious = suspicious
* waveing = waving

Will continue in a bit
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>>570191964
holy shit op
should have posted that earlier
its obviously "lakeview"
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>>570194163
Then what is YP? And what does "pek through the pines" mean.
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>>570194163
Nah, he used lots of lakes. There's no i.

But I'm in the process of adding spaces as a possibility, which will change both messages. There was one thing I thought was very weird about the final message.
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>>570194525
>"pek through the pines"
"peek through the pines" maybe ? where is this line from ?

>>570194629
> There's no i.
Another intentional typo maybe ?
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>>570194629
"vw" is used as "view" in alot of road names in the area
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Have given up on most anons in this thread, still holding out for OP though. Make me proud.
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>>570193540
Cont.

* runnig = running
* dissapeared = disappeared
* noze = nose
* positivily = positively
* ventalate = ventilate
* all ready = already
* machiene = machine
* aprox. = approx.
* oute = out
* " at the sight" = " at the site" - at what site? The "bomb" could still be there.
* re-roat = re-route
* busses = buses
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Please refrain from looking further into the cyphers i wish to live in peace. You are fairly close to getting what you seek. Yes i browse 4chan.

- Z
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>>570195128
Yeah i misspelled. He also talks about that police must have " holes in their heads" and he punched a lot of holes in some letters, one letter said" peek through the pines"
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>>570195867
Lel op already knows who ZK is. And he died ages ago
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>>570195867
keep trying fellow redittor :D XD
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Lakeview Pines maybe? There's a Lakeview Pines Road in Big Bear, California with homes that were built at least during 1961.
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>>570196013

This is amusing its taken so long for you people to get this far.

Good luck.

>reditt?
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>>570196060
Try finding a place called The Pines or similar, in something to do w Mount Diablo or the town Tracy. Maybe a street in Tracy called Lakesomething.

All I found was Coulter Pine Trail at Mt Diablo which is more or less a trail through wilderness.
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>>570196508
Im on my phone so I cant compare the map but what about sunset pines apartments in tracy?
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Maybe it's a trick. Maybe it's an anagram.

Everyone make anagrams of these two:

p d n s w - l k h w f e v u c y a o

(- is space)

d n s w a l k h f f u e b o v w y p
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>>570197276
>d n s w a l k h f f u e b o v w y p

http://anagram-solver.net/dnswalkhffuebovwyp?partial=true
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>>570196809
Could be something. Idk.

OP, there are three lake names in the Tracy area.
Waterski lake + Bass lake which make up Eagal Lakes (sic)
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>>570197697
I get " no words found"...
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>>570198850

partials
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>>570197276
what are those 2 lines ? Are they 2 different possibilities of decyper or are we supposed to mix them together ?
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>>570196278
the only way you can prove youre affiliated with him/are him is by revealing some info
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>>570199371
Part of one of those lines contains a key
I am not Z
offi
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>>570199371

Aaaaand they won't bc troll. This is the first interesting/ original thread on b since #nudefor1d excluding the fappening. Don't be a homo.
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>>570199356
Two separate possibilities, depending on whether or not you allow or ignore spaces.

But I doubt there's anything to take from anagrams, they can be almost anything you want them to be.

>f f b u s h d o w n l a k e v w y p
(ending of extended message):
>FEEDING FISH IN BLUE ROCKS VWYP

I have to rest now. I'm close to moving forward with the 340 cipher.

I'll be back with more information.
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Top Kek. Look at these inferior humans trying to crack MY puzzle. Yes, it is me, the Zodiac Killer. But fear not as I will give you a hint: Moot. That is all. Good luck.
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>>570199064
When searching partials for
pdnswlkhwfevucyao

I get Duchy of Naples (historical place), unshackled + " can you help"...
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>>570199682
Godspeed, based Mang
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>>570178341


I'M WRITING A LETTER TO TRACY'S GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS

HERE IS THE LETTER

"Hello, I am helping someone follow a clue about the Zodiac Killer's 408 cypher. The last 18 letters of that letter have remained undeciphered but someone on 4chan's /sci/ board thinks they have decrypted the last 18 letters.

Here is the link to the thread
>>>/sci/6770005
Please look at post number 6770784

He is not releasing anymore information on what the message is other than he has decrypted this into a coherant message. But, in the decrypted code, he has gotten "VWYP" as a word.

He entered "VWYP" into Acronymfinder.com and searched for locations.
"VWYP" came back to Tracy, California.
Here is a link
http://www.acronymfinder.com/~/search/af.aspx?Acronym=VWYP&string=zip

We are all stumped as to WHY "VWYP" is code for Tracy, California.
What kind of coding system is it? Is it still being used or is it an old system? Could someone in the Tracy governmental system know why "VWYP" is used as a code for Tracy?

Once the anonymous OP gets these questions answered, he will release the decrypted message of the undeciphered 18 letters of the Zodiac's 408 letter.


I'm probably not supposed to bring in outside people, but I'm emailing every department in the Tracy governmental system hoping that 1 person recognizes that "VWYP" code. It could be a legal code, zoning code, geocode, or a code of a system that has been replaced years ago.

If anyone knows just email me back and post in that /sci/ thread what it means.

Thanks.

Sincerely,
Jimmy Rustle"

SHOULD I SEND THIS??????
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>>570200332
no
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>>570200332
Do it for science
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>>570200594
What if I replaced the name "Jimmy Rustle" with "Digger Nicks"?
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>>570200332
Fuck yes dooo eeet
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>>570200675
No. And besides, Op has told us in prev threads that the code says the killer's name in full = prime suspect at the time. Now he is to decipher the OTHER HALF of it. Very exciting.
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>>570184064

Look man I've been following you all night and been supportive, so take this piece of advice in return.

People are never going to get over this geotag thing until they see your decryption and how you got it. Even if you show it with all the proof of non coincidence we've found from the beginning they aren't going to understand it and will thus be easily made skeptical (even I became skeptical way back when that first guy was arguing with you).

The thing is, until you show your decryption and how you got it, some people are just going to have the feeling of "this kid just wrote something into some search engine and is sending us on this goosechase."

Hell someone could even say you just came accross the weird thing on acronymfinder and had recently read/saw something about zodiac and said "hey what if I try to troll /b/ with this"

My main point is that the doubters will be doubters, just brush past them. If you're right we'll all be going crazy about how you and /b/ solved something about the zodiac after 40 yrs of people couldn't.

And if you are somehow a troll, you'll be screencapped by a few people and forgotten in a few ways.

Anyway good luck man. I gotta step out for an appointment. But I'll check back later on your progress.

Ignore the doubters though I'm telling you. They've already costed you hours you could have spent decrypting. Don't let them take any more time from that. And let others bring people up to speed.

good luck bro
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>>570200947
>code says the killer's name in full
No. It's indirect. When I googled about the Blue Rocks murders, I read that Arthur Leigh Allen was confirmed to be the killer. The message basically says "I committed the Blue Rocks murders, here are some obscure details to prove it."

If Allen = Blue Rocks murderer, Zodiac = Allen

The clues are that the Blue Rocks woman was feeding fish (for some reason???). I guess there was a little pond or something, I don't know. The 18-letter string not expanded sounds like it's hinting there's a body in/by a lake, next to (?) a bush in (or related to) VWYP. This relation could be on the straight line from Tracy to Mt. Diablo, which goes straight through the "Watershed" on the side of the mountain. This could be the true murder scene on that axis.
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>>570201628
Holy shit
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>>570199682
Hey Op
Idk if this means anything
But i searched for 'dnswalkhffuebo' and left out the VWYP intentionally. Partial finds are:

- HANDFUL OF KEYS
"Handful of Keys" is a composition in the stride piano style by the jazz composer and pianist Fats Waller and originally published by Chappel & Co. in 1960.

The piece has been the subject of a large number of interpretations, mostly for piano solo, but sometimes also with lyrics.
/wikipedia, 'citation needed'

And

- BUFFALO NEWS
A NY based newspaper founded as a Sunday paper in 1873.
" the primary newspaper of the Buffalo – Niagara Falls metropolitan area. It was for decades the only newspaper fully owned by Berkshire Hathaway."
/wiki page
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>>570201756
Nah, that's the thing about anagrams. There are way more possible arrangements that sound like they make sense than you expect.
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>This thread
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This is the most elaborate troll I've ever seen.
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>>570202274
Yeh thatvs why hevs been up all night, right?
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>>570202049
How goes the chase? Time to make another report, m8.
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>>570204072
OP is sleeping

Go here
>>>/sci/6771086
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>>570194525
It's a misspelling of "kek through the pines."
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>>570181490
Ayy lmao
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>>570204679
No

This Zodiac Killer card is still as confusing as it was then
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What if we solve the anagram for four words each starting with VWYP
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Do you guys realise that the Zodiac killer is actually dead? This is still very interesting, I was just hoping you knew
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>>570178341

It's cool you're trying to solve and all, but I defy anyone to read this and not know who the killer is.

http://www.zodiackiller.com/AllenFile.html

The really interesting question is, how many more did he kill.
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>>570206818

I find Richard Gaikowski more believable suspect. He looked like the drawing of Zodiac and he spent three years at mental asylum - during these three years Zodiac didn't send any letters to newspapers.
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GODSPEED, OP
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>>570207138

did you even read the link?

>naval background
>significant dates match
>wore a zodiac watch with the same logo as zodiac used
>lived in the same area as all the murders
>owned the same typwriter used to type confession letters
>confided in a friend that he 'wanted to hunt people' 'would use flashlight and a gun' and 'would call himself zodiac'
>was in jail during the 3 years you mentioned
>surviving zodiac victim identified him in a lineup as 'the guy who shot me'

Plus lots more, on the link.

READ THE LINK
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>>570207138
Interesting.

Also, there are still unsolved cases of killings in the larger SF area from the 70's, even one of a woman killed outside Tracy 1970
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>>570207758
And still he roamed free? WTF.
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>>570178945
>Today I succeeded in solving their meaning

u hav no proof
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>>570207758

He's good suspect indeed, but didn't they compare Allen's DNA to Zodiac's and it didn't match? Although they got the Z's dna from back of stamps he used, so it could really belong to anyone.
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>>570208736

Allen was known to ask other people to lick his stamps for him, claiming he 'hated the taste'
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http://www.zodiackiller.com/SuspectGaikowski.html

He's the man
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bump
- Zodiac here
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Zodiac good at all these puzzles, but dude sucked at killing. Couldn't finish off most of the victims he claimed
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Posting in a hopefully epic thread.
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I hope we get another cool serial killer like the Zodiac soon :(
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