Is porn addiction a real thing? What do you think /b/?

>>569032719
it doesnt hurt me so who cares

>>569032870
/thread

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when is the last time you went a month without an orgasm?

>>569032719
It makes about as much sense as telling a male he's a sex addict.

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yawn

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addiction to the orgasm is real

try going without

>posting this on a board that is mostly porn
>all these faggots in self denial
>99% of guys here failed no faptember

>>569033904
>being addicted to a natural desire
Sounds legit.

>>569033836
I wasn't asking about fapping but about porn.

BTW I saw the original painting in Bologna

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if watching porn makes you feel good: see below

porn is addictive

>>569034150
yeah so being fat isn't food addiction
Fapping more than 2 times a week is addiction imo...
I fap at least 5 times a week...

>>569032870
Occupies time and will eventually make it harder for you to stay hard when with REAL women, but basement dweller virgins have all the time in the world and no women, so no problems.

>if you fap while staring to a blank canvas its a natural human process known as masturbation
>if you fap while looking at porn its a degenerate addiction that will ruin your life and make you go blind

my pastor told me this

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the longer you go without an orgasm

the higher your IQ will climb

test it you coward

>>569034572
>following that obviously bullshit guide

What if I do NONE of the above?
Am I nothing?

But I think therefore I am.

So are you nothing?
I think so.

fapping is for the damned

>>569035165

i hope you didn't post that image which is proved to be wrong as a way to try and boast about your IQ

inb4 "eheh aggravated m8?letrollface.webm"

many people look at that and dont know its a false picture, pls remove tks

>>569035770
you are blind

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As an OP I'd like to remind people that, as strange as it sounds you actually can masturbate without porn.

I was asking just about porn, not fapping, faggots.

repent and fap no more

>>569035957
>Implying I'm even talking about the post and not the image

Well, actually i have been fapping daily for most of my life but in the past new years i made a promise not to fap ever again at least during the year of 2014 and im holding strong so far so i would say no, fapping is not an addiction

>>569035948
go without an orgasm for two weeks

see how you feel about it and make a decision

there are at least 2 types of addiction: physical addiction, like being addicted to heroin, and psychological addiction.

>>569036507

Maybe you just overcame your fapping addiction? Some people break out of their smoking addictions while others just cant, it doesn't mean its not an addiction just because someone managed to break it au naturele.

I think fapping might be an addiction

>>569032719

Everything you want to do in life is addictive. You just have to choose what you prefer. And you would probably be happier if you spent less time fapping and more time fucking.

>>569036701

if i go without an orgasm for two weeks will the laws of physics change and that gif suddenly become truthful?

>>569036794

Like being addicted to weed.

OP do you mean by "porn addiction" the act of fapping or can it also be female masturbation?

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>>569037035
ok ill post a truthful gif just for you

>>569037381

HOLY SHIT !

WHICH WAY IS SHE TURNING ?

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FOR THE LAST TIME

I WAS ASKING ABOUT PORN AS A STIMULUS

NOT MASTURBATION IN GENERAL

Is this so hard to understand?

You can be addicted to porn.
You can be addicted to masturbation.
You can be addicted to orgasms.

Sometimes I masturbate while looking at porn a little while after my girlfriend and I have sex. This is partially because she usually goes to work, or we both go to sleep, right after we have sex.

So I would say it is an addiction depending on your personality. I have a somewhat addictive and obsessive personality.

captcha: freemasonry roopto

>>569032719
yes. i just hoard images/videos

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Literally everything pleasant has the potential to be addictive so yeah even porn. That said who gives a fuck

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how many times do you watch porn per day?

>>569037938

lol how can you masterbate without porn tho

>>569038730
I didn't have porn when I started masturbating. It took forever though. Now I can't jack it unless I have a video playing. Still takes forever cause you have to find just the right video.

>>569039085

>i masturbated without porn

nice b8 m8

before porn all people did was rape eachother

>>569039085
you is addicted bro

>>569032719
yes...speaking from personal experience

>>569039256
That's not addiction, that's not being able to concentrate on my own fantasies. That's why it took so long when I first started.

>>569033761
what the fuck nipple craters

>>569039240
There's this thing called imagination, and it works wonders

Its not an addiction, because the male brain is naturally programmed to want to impregnate as many women as possible.
You're still pathetic if you never try to do anything real though.

It's not an addiction, but too much porn is dangerous to your sex life. It gets harder and harder to find things that turn you on. You have to seek out very specific types of porn (such as amateur home-made videos of young girls dancing or such) and nothing else will work. Most porn becomes a parody and impossible not to find funny, not arousing at all.

I think as the years go by and now that the internet is full swing, we'll see a lot more men with the inability to get aroused for their wives or such unless some specific fetish shit is in play. Once you've seen 100,000+ women naked, it takes something special to do it for you,.

>>569039534
when is the last time you went a week without spanking your cheeto?

>>569039595
some girls and guys have inverted nipples. my ex-wife had them.

>>569039690
>too much porn is dangerous to your sex life
>implying any of us have a sex life

>>569037938
dat innie tho

>>569039745
last month.

>>569032719
Do you start sweating and shaking when you stop watching porn for a while?

>>569037381
where you got this gif?

>>569039823
>>implying any of us have a sex life

I am 33 years old, and married, and haven't had sex with my wife in like 8 months. Because of too much porn. She doesn't arouse me at all.

>>569032719
I think It is, there are many documented cases which prove it to be a real problem for some people.
I would say I have a slight problem with, not so much porn, but just looking at naked women in general. I am always looking for interesting looking women to ogle, now this seldom leads to fapping I just like to look at tits ass backs legs panties faces bellies etc etc

>>569039979
the internet

>>569034572
>unsuccessful people criticize
entire image is a criticism of successful people

>>569039952

did you feel sharper and more creative the 7th day?

>>569038513

>livin' the dream

>>569038639
Nice pic, bro.

>>569032719
>Is porn addiction a real thing?
certainly. It's potentially possible to be addicted to anything which gives you pleasure.

I know I've got a porn folder full of gigabytes of images which I'm never going to masturbate to, for instance.

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porn destroys the mind's eye

you need that when fucking because you're going to be fucking a cow or ham beast at best

>>569040226
No. If I'm not at work, I'm at home being a recluse. My brain feels fuzzy most of the time.

>>569037938
I prefer reading for stimulation
Mangas work too, but you need to flip pages much faster

>>569040393

You could just be a collector. An obsessor. The porn itself doesn't bring you pleasure. The collection does.

>>569040517

It's harder to find quality erotic literature than it is to find porn that isn't laughable.

>>569032719
why dont you ask my 2tb hard drive filled with granny porn

>>569040048

8 months? are you serious? if she doesn't arouse you to the point that you haven't had sex in 8 fucking months then why did you marry her in the first place? i mean jeez i feel bad when my gf and i don't have sex for a few days straight.

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>>569037381
>mother of god....really amazing

>>569041291
Where do you get good vids of really old ugly grannies? I'm into that.

>>569032719
Yes OP - obviously not in the same way that physically addictive things are addictive, like heroin, or smoking.

But your brain, releases hormones that are craved like dopamine when exposed to pornography, and eventually after a duration of watching pornography it becomes very habitual to attain this fix, just like someone who smokes.
It becomes a part of your daily routine, and you feel odd/agitated etc if you don't get said "fix".

tl;dr yes, and its recognized by medical professionals.

derp more derpy questions.

>>569041642
google.com

>>569040847
yeah, there are only a few scenes that i reread several times with my dick in hand

much more choice with manga, but also much more crap to filter out, written by guys who never seen or even talked to a woman.

>>569041965
my google-fu is lacking

>>569039595

virgin detected

>>569034634
I fap at least 3 times a day, and have a grill...

Thanks /b/, this thread has made me feel comfortable about my real/virtual balance.

>>569032719

Sex is supposed to be addictive. It delivers a powerful pleasure reward to reinforce whatever behaviors you are doing. If you are sitting in front of your computer with your pants down this is the behavior that gets reinforced. That being said there is little evidence for major harm caused by porn addiction.

>>569033761
i would fucking breed that!

>>569032719
Is that norman reedus?

>>569032719
I think it's real. I need ever more extreme imagery to get me going, i rarely fap without porn. It's slightly worrying as I like some pretty sick shit and i'd rather not go on the sex offenders register.
>>569040048
38 , single & no fuck inabout 2 months: can i borrow your wife anon? Can you post her to Scotland, I'd send her back when I'm done.

>>569032719
It's all natural, so it can't be bad for me.

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>>569038513
Lel

The ball shot is the fucking worst. I always fast forward through it. But I never thought about the camera man who has to have bare man ass in his face. I wonder how many times some dude has ripped ass in his face during the heat of the moment

>>569035165
Btw the solar system is heliospheric, the planets rotate on a plane with the milky way, parallel to the sun's path of revolution

>>569034572
right, the successful person is a woman.

when has that ever happened, in the history of time?

>>569039823
This post is too true.

Anything can be an addiction.
If you mow your fucking lawn 10 times a day, you're addicted.

Most addictions that arent chemical, cause the same problems. Waste of time, and maybe some social problems.

Id say fapping is a bit more of an addiction that mowing a lawn though, since orgasms do effect the brain, thus making desire to fap alot harder to ignore.

Same with marijuana. Its not chemically addictive, but that high is so great that you want it all the time.

>>569035165
Did you just finish masturbating as you wrote that ?

>>569034572
>letting a picture on the internet decide whether you're successful or not

If you actually do this, you're a fucking loser.

>>569044739
I don't have friends and my face is enough to scare girls off so I'm ok with this

>>569034634
It's said to be healthy to fap once every 1-2 days.

>>569035165
It's possible that celibacy enhances cognition in some ways, but there's no way you can permanently boost your actual IQ like that.

>>569034809
I Watch Porn All The time. I gap like 4 times a day. And even then I still fuck my gf . And I cum in her mouth everytime. One draw back from porn is that you don't really ever build up your current. Reserve. She complains about this all the time.

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>>569039690

is that what happened to Japan

>>569044739
That graph is so wrong and it kills me

Porn has made me a sexual demi god.
after years of watching kinky shit regular sex is so unstimulating whenenever I fuck my girlfriend I last for hours.
Seriously, it's made her all self consious. She blew me for an hour and nothing. I had to wank myself off while I fingered her butthole.
still stay hard though.

>>569034572
nice, would add:
Loser spend time on /b/

>>569046078
exactly

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Porn is safer than real sex. No risk of disease or pregnancy. No emotional pain from breakups - cheating. No high cost of dating or marriage. No risk of legal penalties for indulging your darkest fantasy.

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>>569034572
>Believing in WakeUpNow Propaganda.

MK Ultra victim confirmed

>>569037938
>implying that people on 4chan can comprehend anything

>>569040847
>>569042023
google "fenoxo coc" or "fenoxo tits"
you're welcome

>>569046078
afaik japan tried to ban porn, spawning more and more specific sub genres of porn, trying to evade the censors.

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>>569043848
>I need ever more extreme imagery to get me going

This is the real rub of the issue. Once you've acquired a taste for the perverse, normal shit stops doing it for you, which can be a problem should you be one of the few /b/tards who has sex with real women.

Nudes aren't porn right? I prefer just nudes to fap to, then I can imagine sex exactly how I want it, as my imagination is strong. Unless doing that is actually creating porn in your head.

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>>569046782
They censored my image..

4chan confirmed for Big Brother.

I'm on my way.

>>569047764

I think you're right. I fap to nudes way more than porn. I don't really get off to porn unless it's just right, same with nudes.

>>569047817
except 4chan didn't
gr8 b8 m8, I r8 str8 8/8. no h8, m8

>>569032719

Idk, personally some of the best faps i had were to fantasy, to me it'd be more like a masturbation addiction in general but well, thats just me can't say if it's like that for the rest...

>>569047709
Can we talk about her hairy ass armpits?

>>569032719
You can be addicted to anything in the sense that addiction is a compulsive behaviour that interferes with normal life and causes some level of distress.

It's not an addiction in the way that heroin is an addiction, no.

Basically, it's a legitimate problem for some people but those people are weak faggots.

>>569034572
All successful people don't criticize and keep a journal.

Mmmm hmmmmm

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>>569048113
I'm being dead serious. Let me try to post the image.

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>>569047764
Nudes are porn. I only fap to pics (I don't really care for vids because they're too fakey most of the time and I don't want to have to time my jizz so I', mot staring at some dude's face at the time), and I still find myself having to come up with more and more weird fantasies to turn me on. Of course, I've been at this a while.

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Yeah you can pretty much get addicted to anything. There are different forms of addiction with the two main ones being physical and mental. Porn can fall under mental where u feel like you need it and cannot stop yourself from watching it.

>>569047764
>>569047986

also I would like to add it's why I like going on /b/, /gif/, and /s/ for my porn because there are more nudes than anything. the only videos i really like getting off to are like, Remy LaCroix and her hula hoop shit, which isn't really porn as much as it's her dancing naked (fucking hot as hell, too).

>>569035165
>>569039637
>>569039690
>>569040393
>>569040453
>>569041908
>>569043406
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>>569045891
>>569047709


[citation needed]

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>>569048602

>>569039609
About 30 minutes of wonder
Video is better

>>569048551
>>569048113
>>569047817
>>569034572

HOORAY it worked. So wtf? They have scanners or something. I don't know who this is. She has copyrights on her? I'm confused.

>>569032719

An addiction is only an addiction when it's interfering with your life. If you keep missing out on things because of it, you need to shut porn off for a bit. And yes, most experts agree porn addiction is a thing.

>>569047817
4chan didn't censor it, but someone else uploaded a pic in the same second you did, and it got the same unix timecode plus extra random numbers. so only one picture "survived". happens every now and then.

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>>569048347
This is one of the fetishes I've acquired. Deal with it.

Here's another.

>>569035165
Nikola Tesla
Please go

>>569041440
When you marry someone its not just about fucking every day.
You become more than just attracted to their body. The romantic love may pass but they become family. They become your other half. Not just about the sex.

>>569048679
[virgin detected]

Talk to men who have had sex with women and who masturbate to a lot of porn. Vanilla sex starts to lose its appeal once your fantasies have moved to incest with a chubby hairy girl who pisses in your mouth.

>>569049098
>Not just about the sex.
>its not just about fucking every day.
seemingly not about sex at all. 8 fucking months.

>>569034572
So is food, sleep, and everything else possible to do in this world. Hence everything is bad.
Oh and Porn is actually good for you and keeps the sexual organs in shape. Am aware of pun. Being a dickhead on /b/ doesn't help but I believe OP loves you when you are one.

>>569049098

but I'm saying if you're not sexually attracted to her then why did you marry her? i'm confused. i didn't say being married was about fucking every day, but if your wife can't turn you on at all enough to have sex in an 8 month period then i think you might've married the wrong person.

>>569048925
I actually do delve into the midget world from time to time. When I am feeling eccentric.

Ive been fapping like everyone else since I was like 11/12. Since 14 I have watched internet porn. I'd say 99% of my orgasms are reached while watching porn. And I have watched perhaps every type there currently is.
I never considered myself an addict until recently. Without visual stimulus I become easily distracted and could lose my erection.

I was having a difficult time maintaining a full erection if I stopped jerking for a few seconds.

So I decided to stop fapping. I deleted all my porn links, and its been 16 long days now. I do get erections that I cant avoid and I try my best to not focus on the blueballs feeling. Its becoming easier. I feel even the unwanted erections are more powerful and easier to maintain. I cant tell yet if my focus is improved or if there are any other benefits. Right now I'm pretty much feeling normal but I just fill up my time without porn.

>>569049619

I started fapping at age 10 or 11, did it completely on imagination until around 18 years old (didn't have my own computer or anything to use for porn in private). over time I had easier and easier access to porn and pornographic material so i used my imagination less and less. now i can get off on imagination but it's a bit more difficult when it's so easy to hop on the internet and find whatever you want.

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>>569048602

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>>569049386
>but I'm saying if you're not sexually attracted to her then why did you marry her?

Not the guy you responded to, but as a divorcedfag I can say that he was likely sexually attracted to her at the beginning, but over the years the same old, same old made it boring. Add porn and extreme fantasies to the mix, and it becomes even harder to become aroused by the thought of fucking your wife for the 1000th time. Even if you mix in some new shit (my ex went for anal after 10 years together), there's too much sameness to get you going.

Sex with the same person becomes mechanical over time, but you stay married out of inertia. You still love her, you probably think she's still pretty (unless she got fat), but the sex itself is so routine you stop looking forward to it.

Also, once you haven't had sex with your wife for a while, like a month, it becomes even more awkward to initiate, and this just builds over time. After 3 months, it feels weird to just initiate sex out of the blue.

>>569050585
Thank you, Mr. Skeletal.

it's a compulsion, not an addiction

>no chemicals involved = not an addiction

List of Sexy girls CHANS here:

http://chan-rating.info/

>>569051009
So gambling addiction isn't a thing, either?

And what about the naturally occurring chemicals in your body that get produced when engaging in the behavior? Those don't count?

i personally dont like porn because i always hated window shopping. i hate fapping too because i hate the feeling that its the best i can do. i do fap every blue moon though. thats just how i feel

>>569049316

Talk to some older men who have had lots of relationships. Vanilla sex (with the same person) starts to loose its appeal anyway.

Its so common, Science has given it a name The Coolidge effect

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolidge_effect

>>569047709
beg to disagree. when fapping on the web I'm as fucked up as the next guy, but I'm aware it's just images on a screen. there was never a moment with any of my exes when I tore apart the bedroom in a rage like WTF YOU WON'T EVEN LET ME TIE YOU UP AND PISS ON YOU

[spoiler]n...not that I would be into that[/spoiler]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU

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>>569034809
If that's the case, then maybe real women should step their game up, and do something to make a man never go soft. Pretty bad when someone on a screen does your job better than you.

>>569037381
Look in the middle and also look left and right with some portion of your eyes(idk) ...They are all anticlockwise

>>569052036

I don't think it's really someone on a screen doing a better job, I think it's the fact that a lot of people would rather have access to the tons and tons of porn available on the web rather than a real life woman, especially since most of the people on here don't know how to talk to people IRL correctly.
I mean think about it: how is a real life woman, with one body type, supposed to fulfill someone who has an insatiable desire to constantly be watching something new and fresh?
We have access to millions of women on the internet, for people who get bored very easily, no real life woman is going to be able to keep up with that if you constantly need something new.

>>569044492
>that fukkin pic
Thank you oh based anon. I havn't seen that in like 5 years.

>>569052698
>especially since most of the people on here don't know how to talk to people IRL correctly
yep, me included

>>569052939

I mean a lot of the fat neckbeards on here will say "hurr durr real life women can't compete with my needs" when they've really just masturbated themselves into a dopamine stupor and can't even get hard to anything remotely vanilla anymore.

>>569053212
luckily, my needs are simple: a vagina

>>569032870
Actually it does. It causes mental problems. Sperm takes out a lot of nutrients your brain needs. Too much fapping can lead to depression, decreased focus, and problems with memory.

Porn addiction is real, I'm experiencing withdrawal right now.
I decided to abstain from fapping some days ago after I found out that fapping reduces testosterone, that and sometimes I had trouble getting hard for my gf and when I managed to get hard it took me an hour to come.
I managed 3 days without porn, when I fucked my gf I was harder, came faster and was ready for seconds. But then withdrawal kicked in and I couldn't help but open my porn folder. I didn't give up though, now I just edge till just before I come and I feel bad for doing so.

>>569054232

and then of course there are people on here like that as well, whose standards are realistic.

>>569054334

Can the same occur from too much sex? I read somewhere that having a lot of sex actually makes you smarter.

>>569034572
>Criticize
>Take all the credit for their victories
>Hold a grudge
>Newton
>mfw

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>>569052698
Yeah, but real life woman=real life problems, and real life problems bring real life bullshit. A woman will fuck you here or there (when she feels like it), give you that nut, then later decide she doesn't like you any more. That's when she can claim you raped her, abused her, and collect child-support for a bastard kid that may or may not even be yours. Not to mention that real women (especially in the west) are filthy, and even wearing a condom can still get you one or three STDs.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, I'd rather take a boatload of porn and dating sims before I have to deal with actual women. Contrary to what you might be thinking, I'm not fat nor am I a NEET; I'm a Uni senior, and I love going to school. I've got plenty of female friends in real life, but I'll be damned before I let myself get emotionally involved with any of them.

This is why once you cum after stroking it, you're no longer horny for a while: that's all women are good for.

>>569054334
Good thing I eat my cum then. I knew it was a good idea!

>>569044693
win!

>>569054643

I hear this kind of bullshit all the time on this goddamn website. People like you are just too lazy to take the time to find a decent woman.

>inb4 hurr durr all women are crazy and will cheat on you

People who would rather masturbate than find an actual woman are pathetic.

And before you say that I'll end up paying for everything for a woman, my girlfriend makes a LOT more money than I do and she pays for a lot of stuff for me.

People like you think that they're better than women. If you told anyone that you'd rather masturbate and watch porn in real life than be a normal social human being and have a relationship, they'd tell you to your face that you're a loser unless they're just like you.

>i've got plenty of female friends in real life

female friends =/= female friends who would fuck you
anyone can have female friends

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>>569046749

>>569055269
>anyone can have female friends
I can't :/

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>>569046060
and there is always this virgin

>>569055269
I have no female friends I haven't had sex with. If you are an attractive guy and slightly outgoing the world is at your fingertips.

>>569055480
Want to fuck every female friend
Gets friend circled by everyone

>>569055705

this is my point, that if you actually try, and not just sit at home all day being a NEET shut-in, you can actually score. you don't even have to be all that attractive.

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>>569055269
But you know I'm telling the truth. If a lot of people observe the same phenomena, guess what? The phenomena is actually happening.

While it's great right now that your girlfriend makes more money than you do (and buys your stuff), don't be mistaken: she sees you as her child, with the only difference being that she can have sex with you. If you ever get into an argument, guess what? She's going to pull the fact that she has always made more money than you and has provided for you. You are literally at her mercy.

Masturbation is the safest sex, since it only involves me, and I don't need any special protection or worry after I'm finished. If I choose to do it again later, I can without having to ask permission first.

With this post, you're kind of coming off as a S.I.M.P: Someone idolizing mediocre pussy.

>female friends
Just putting that out there, so you don't think I'm some socially inept NEET who can't even talk to women. As a man, I am intrinsically smarter, stronger, and overall better than them, and not some beta who has a woman provide for him.

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>>569032719

Nothing a little chastity cage can't fix OP.

You'll do just about anything to stay AWAY from porn to keep your poor balls from getting tugged by your cage.

>>569032719
Well, yeah. You can develop a psychological dependence on just about anything.

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I surely do hope so!

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>>569055269
I have female friends in real life that wan't to fuck me. (or at least I used to) I just bail whenever eye contact is made for more than 2 seconds. Oh well.

>>569055946

You've derailed my comment into talking about my girlfriend making more money than me. It doesn't make you less pathetic for sitting at home staring at a screen with your dick out all day, making excuses for your porn addiction and your inability to actually have sex with a real life woman.

If you really think you're that much better than women, I can bet you're one of those guys who complains about being friendzoned, because almost every male who has had some amount of sex will never claim that their hand is better than a real life woman.

>>569056296

That's just a confidence issue. You can work on that easily with time and effort, my friend.

>>569032719
Im fapping for my third time today.
usually I do it at least once but often twice a day.
I would say I am addicted.

Downside is that I go through a lot of kleenex and sex with my last gf (recent breakup) was not as good as I can make myself feel.

Positives are that I last longer in bed, and I can have good orgasms by myself multiple times per day.

>>569047709
Armpit hair. fucking degenerates.

>>569056674

fapping only makes you last longer if you're still having sex regularly. if i fap for a few days then have sex with my gf i'm still going to cum relatively quickly because sex is of course much better.

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>>569056535
Didn't intend to derail anything, but I'm not as pathetic as having a woman provide everything for me. That's really the only reason you're with her: she provides for you, so you've convinced yourself that you "need" her, and have thus become a beta. I provide everything for myself, am a senior in Uni, and going to grad school soon after.

I don't complain about being "friendzoned." Quite the contrary, in fact. Have you heard of MGTOW? It's for those of us who don't need a woman to tell us what to do, when to do it, how to do it, or provide for us. We're not as dependent on women as you.

Feels good to be able to do what I want.

>>569056941
Sex is better in a sense that it feels better while you do it. But I agree.

theres nothing wrong with looking at porn and jacking off but the people on here that have terabytes of porn saved that they probably never look at are addicted and at least a little unhealthy

>>569057137

>implying I can't provide for myself

you're just mad you don't have a woman at your every beck and call willing to fuck you whenever you want and buy you whatever you want, so you are justifying the fact that no woman on this earth could stand to be around you, so you say "hurr durr i don't need woman, me man, me do whatever me want"

>>569057252

/thread

>>569050538
rofltits roflarms roflchest midget?

>>569057252
Do you have a proof?

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>>569057410
>implying
Not saying you can't, just that you likely don't since you have a woman doing it for you. It's funny that you say she's at your 'beck and call,' but if she says "no," you'll have le blue balls until she decides you deserve to be pleasured again.

You betas sure know how to call them. It just surprises myself and others like me that you'd defend a woman who likely doesn't give 2 shits about you so virulently. Enjoy that chain...not much of a ball left.

>>569057854
an actual scientific article? no. but if you feel a compulsion to save tons of pics that you dont look at that dont improve your life in any way its an addiction.
if you save so much porn you get anxious whenever someone asks to borrow your computer its bad.
if you jack off to the point it interferes with your life outside the internet its unhealthy.
everything in moderation. dont do things if they start to detract from your life. its not that fucking complicated

>>569058182

The funny thing is that she never says "no" because she actually cares about me and shit. Don't get so bitter so young because you don't have a woman to love.

>>569058070

I'd say probably start by talking to women you don't give a shit about and being confident overall. Talk to and smile at people in public. If you fuck up and look like an idiot to the cashier at Dunkin Donuts, then oh well, they MIGHT remember you as "that goofy awkward dude" but it's just a thing you gotta work on.

>>569058707
Story of my life already

>>569058707
She probably says "yes" so you won't feel bad about yourself. Because you know, gotta keep a baby entertained, and that's how she views you. Here, maybe after watching this vid you'll wake up from your seemingly endless stupor. "Love" is that shit women use to control you...other than those meat curtains in their panties.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo5Rx60l4ME

>>569058854

What do you mean?

>>569059128

Except for you don't know what the fuck you're talking about and that SHE's the one who initiates sex most of the time.

stay mad, my friend. Keep justifying yourself, you'd sound fucking crazy IRL.

is something that feels good and habit-forming, addicting?

yes, yes it is

>>569032719
There is a lot of weird porn on the internet. Im not talking about mainstream basic bdsm, im talking about borderline illegal, absolutely disgusting pornography. And people get off on it.

Sure, there are some sick fucks that actually enjoy those, but the fact remains that most of this porn came into existence because once porn became widespread, people watched it a lot, and the more they watched it, the more weird things they wanted.

Hence, porn addiction is real. People get addicted to porn, watch a lot of it, then they want weird things, creating a demand for weird porn. Then suppy comes in, creating a demand for ever weirder porn. If people weren't addicted, they would've been fine with the current porn content.

>>569035165
8/8

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>>569059340
As i said, you're a baby who must be kept entertained to her. I really hope you don't an hero when she leaves you for a real man.

>>569035165
hah universe sandbox

>>569059821

so instead of justifying yourself now you're just repeating yourself. i'm a baby because i'm in a committed relationship like a normal adult? come back to me in 20 years when you have no friends and your right forearm is literally twice the size of your left.

i feel bad for people who feel the way you do. it must be sad going through life so bitter at women. i bet you think they all belong in the kitchen and that they shouldn't be able to vote.

>>569059821
you losers are just as bad as the feminazis. there are some shitty people in the world. deal with it. not everyone is out to get you,

>>569060148
>come back to me in 20 years when you have no friends and your right forearm is literally twice the size of your left.
a lot of us are probably already there

>>569060650

being lonely and socially inept =/= being a fucking asshole about it and saying that people who live like normal human beings are unable to care for themselves

it's like saying why go to the doctor when i can just take some ibuprofen? fuck the doctor he's just out to control me and make money! i don't need him!

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>>569060148
I've done more than enough to justify myself, which has been met with constant strawman arguments and ad hominems. She sees you as a "baby" because she not only makes more than you do, but pays for the things you use. Do you not understand that? In her mind, you're not considered a 'real man' because she 'brings home the bacon,' and she buys the stuff. I don't understand how you keep missing that.

I feel bad for men who are at the whim of their women. Unable to do for yourself or think for yourself, because you'd rather let some woman do it all for you. It's easier that way, and you have the possibility of being able to sleep with them. That easily controlled...pathetic.

>>569060365
At no point did I say everyone was. But you need to watch the video, and understand what the word "misandry" means. Better you learn it now, than when you're being screwed by the system.

I honestly cannot believe how asleep everyone in here is.

addictions and mental illnesses are only tangible at the point where someone else feels inconvenienced or hurt by your actions.

The funny drunk is everyone's friend at the bar... and no one's every called a workaholic unless someone else is insecure.

>>569032719
of course it is you moron. try going for a few days without it. you'll go through withdrawal.

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>>569060864
I'm not 'being an asshole' about it, nor did I say "normal" human beings were unable to care for themselves. It's just that, in your case, you seem to take pride in being provided for by someone who is naturally less than. But, I take it you're considerably younger than I am (I'm 25), and thus don't have your eyes open just yet.

Oh, and if you know how to care for yourself better than a doctor can in some cases, wouldn't it make sense to self-medicate instead of paying some schmuck in a suit to give you a placebo? Think about that.

addiction is in the heart of the addict.

Any addict know he (s) is addicted.

>>569060898
>>569061335

I said you kept bringing the money factor into this when I actually buy a lot of my own shit, too. Money has nothing to do with the fact that you blame your inadequacies with women on "hurr durr women are useless and evil."

But people on anonymous image boards have quite the confidence, don't they? I bet you wouldn't say any of this to anyone you know IRL. Which is another point of mine that you ignored to call me a useless baby.

>>569039690
this

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>>569061810
*sigh* So I was right then: you are very young. You don't even realize how big a factor money plays when it comes to relationships, but that makes since considering you earn significantly less than your handler.

I actually have said this to a number of other men IRL. Keep in mind, I'm not some young, zit-faced, edgy teenager like the rest of /b/. Unlike you all, I have absolutely no fear in telling people what they need to hear, regardless of whether they want to or not. That being said, I've helped many men who were suffering at the hands of a wench realize their worth as men, and have gone on to recreate themselves without the need or company of a bitch. This is something you'll have to learn at one point or another, or continue being half the man you could be without some broad taking up so much of your time and energy.

Are you even allowed to be online right now?

>>569039690
Yes.

Wish I had known this before I ever looked at any porn.

I think my brain is fucked.

>>569062364

>bringing age, an unrelated factor, into the argument

I'm actually in my mid 20s as well. you are too thick headed to realize that you're a lonely, worthless loser who thinks all women are out to get him.

women probably think you're a piece of shit and men are probably too busy to argue with you so everyone just agrees with you to shut you up. i can guarantee than any normal person can't stand people like you.

wait, you're a senior at university? how are you still in school at 25? do mommy and daddy make you pay rent? one class a semester must be hard work on someone who's so mad all the time.

you are laughable.

also at uni you're probably /that/ guy in class who just has to speak up about every single thing, and i bet you think you're the smartest shit on campus

>>569049619
Good on you dude.
Keep going - after a few months you will feel a lot more normal in your brain and your arousal/desires.

It's alright to fap every week or two, but stay away from porn forever.

I stayed away from it for quite a long time - but I slip back into it when I have nothing to do.

>>569062828

same. fortunately work, school, and gf keep me busy enough to not sit on the computer all day, but i still have a wank every now and then.

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>>569062890
>says age is an unrelated factor
>follows it up with an onslaught of personal insults and ad hominem
While you may be chronologically in your mid-20s (which I still don't fully believe, but whatever), you're still mentally in your teen-years when it comes to this particular topic.

I don't give a shit what women think; unlike you, I'm not a pussy-whipped S.I.M.P who seeks validation through the approval of women.

I started school when I was 21. Unlike the rest of you, I had a lot to go through before I got here (a few years of military service being one of them). Oh, and I do 6 classes per semester, and no one else pays for them but me; that is, I don't have my girlfriend paying for my college education, which I'm lead to believe you probably did.

The only thing "laughable" here, is how your dick is basically in someone else's pocket.

Pic: One of the things I'll be working on when I'm done. Can you say the same?

>>569054334
lol i focus alot better after having atleast 5 faps a day, i get this deadly calm, and i can focus on tasks, i can pretty much disable my brain from thinking and be aware.

i can quit whenever i want

no, but masturbation addiction is and porn facilitates that need

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>>569063157
And no, I'm not /that/ guy in my classes. In spite of not having to answer up to every thing, I still know more than most of the people in a majority of my classes. But I'm sure this bothers you, knowing that someone who is self-sufficient and fine with being single outclasses you in almost every imaginable way.

>>569054428
Just delete all the porn on your computer.
I did it - starting with the porn I didn't really like or was bored of.
Eventually it was all gone - and hasn't returned.
Feels much better.
I wasn't even looking at most of the stuff I was saving or downloading - it was just a constant collecting, sometimes sitting for hours saving images and videos.

>>569063674

lel you should've told me you were a simple-minded military faggot sooner, I would have known to completely disregard anything you said if I had known that.

>>569060898
that was a shitty video by some autistic loser just repeating the shit he reads on here. the way your rambling on on makes it sound like you have some grudge against women. sure there are some really unfair things some women do towards men, just as there are unfair things men do to women. both have their pros and cons in society. there are plenty of women who are decent human beings so i dont hold them accountable for the actions of assholes.

btw, saying shit like "i cant believe how asleep everyone is" make you sound like a conspiracy nut. seriously whats more likely, you and a few others are privy to a society changing idea, or theres simply something wrong i the way you interact with others.

>>569049619
keep it up bro

yes, there are a lot of good things of no fap, you'll feel less anxious, more focus, more self steem, raggind spontaneus erections, you'll get aroused by hot chicks on the street...

>>569064256

he's probably mad because his ex cheated on him with a nigger or something

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>>569064091
>simple-minded military faggot
Oh, so not only not man enough to provide for yourself, but even the type to rip on soldiers because you're too afraid to be shot back at.

Enjoy your girlfriend yelling at you to stop playing Call of Battlefield and become a provide like a real man.

>>569032719
Yeah. Porn/arousal/climax releases pleasure chemicals in the brain with a bonding chemical and you bind to the porn

>>569063595
I was busy for a while.
That ended, now I'm sitting around with nothing to do and I end up looking at porn again.

I need to fuck off for another year and cure my brain like I did before - the difference being I need to stay gone and never go back to being an idle nothing.

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>>569064256
Did you know that Tesla was actually a 'god among MGTOW?' Think of the greatest minds in history such as Tesla and Einstein, and see that they got there without wasting their time trying to please a bitch just so they can sleep together. Now, think about how much time, energy, and effort you put into basically soiling whatever chance you had at being anything close to these men, simply because you just can't wait to sleep with a woman.

By "asleep," I mean how easily controlled and manipulated you boys are by women. They have you all wrapped around their little fish-smelling fingers, but you're too stubborn to acknowledge or even accept the fact that they basically own you. The clothes you buy, the things you watch, even the way you talk and think on a regular basis are all controlled by them. You're 'asleep' because you don't realize it.

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>>569046749
[spoiler]for the love of all that is holy sauce[/spoiler]
[spoiler]yes, I have a problem. bite me, faggots.[/spoiler]

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>>569054428

Ccome on anon! you can do this!!!

>>569064376
provider,* excuse me.

>>569062828
it reverses once you stop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU

>>569064769

yeah being idle is what does it. like i said even sometimes after i have sex with my gf, she'll go to work and if i have the day off sometimes i'll rub one out a little while after she leaves because i have the afternoon off for 8 hours until she gets home.

i fapped more when i lived back at home with my parents. even then i noticed that going out with friends and such kept me from doing it too much.

that being said, like i said, it's okay to do it as long as it's not too often.

>>569064079

how do you deal with the constant exposure to porn on four chan? i block thumbnails ant click carefully the images i want to see... but sometimes an unrelated filename fools me and i watch a nigger dick...
i hate this...

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>>569065841

if you want to stop fapping then get off of 4chan. this is a breeding ground for people who sit around doing nothing all day but posting porn and fapping. seriously, i fapped way less when i just altogether stopped going on 4chan (or at least stop going on boards that get porn posted to them).

>>569064806
lol implying scientific smarts has anything to do with social understanding. besides, not wanting to get married =/= hating women. marriage just wasnt for them and thats their thing. not all people want to or can devote their life to science. inventions are not the only criteria for a lifes worth

seriously i wonder if you misoginists are really just gays in denial, or if your just such an asshole that no women wants near you.

>>569066531

lel just ignore him, there's no use arguing with someone so retarded. saying that he'd rather jack off than get up off his fat ass and find a real woman, then equating it to being like Einstein or Tesla, he's so convinced he's this generation's next great mind when he's just a misogynist, military asshole.

>>569066049

i think 4 chan has good things, b would be perfect without porn... i would suggest moot tho create a /porn/ board where traps, furries, and all kind of porn could be posted

>>569065154
Seen the video before - I still wonder though.
I stopped porning for a year or so - then slipped slowly back into it. I don't look at it all the time - can go for weeks without fapping - but I would still rather never go near porn again.
Yet it has the draw - see it by accident, or more likely - bored, go to 4chan - and >>569065841
>>569066049 happens.

>>569065258
I had dick problems when I was first with my girlfriend. A lot must have been caused by my porn fap habit of 15+ years. I cured quite a bit of it, by months of sex with her, and avoiding porn completely. I was living with her at the time - lately I've been spending more time alone with nothing constructive to do - and unhealthy habits return.
Wasting time on computer games, fapping to porn.

>>569067082

/b/ would be good without a lot of things. a porn board would be a good idea though. i mean if he's going to create a fucking board for ponies, he should create one for porn.

>>569067171

yeah i've had times where i fapped, then later that day tried to have sex, and i couldn't get it up. i've since learned how to incorporate fapping into my routine without it interfering with sex, but still i would prefer to do it as little as possible.

>>569032719
Anything can become addicting

>>569056065
I can't tell you how many of those things I've broken with the sheer force of my erection

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>>569066531
>>569067026
And this is how I know the feminists are winning. You both disappoint me as men.

Oh, and "fatass" from the man-child? That's funny, considering I can run 1.5 miles in less than 13 minutes. I doubt you even remember how to.

>>569067082
agreed. i mean there is /s/, but that doesnt really have much variety. id be glad to be rid of trap and furry threads, and the constant reposting of ex gfs.

>>569033836
i fell in love and it's been 2 weeks since i came, longest since i was in 7th grade, and I don't feel like doing it now unless its with her

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>>569045291
Sauce

>>569054334
[source needed]

>>569068221
Fap no more than once a week to the fantasy of penetrating her vagina in first person perspective (this is extra detail to avoid it being a porn, third person fantasy). Your brain and penis will become conditioned to the idea of having sex with her - and if the chance occurs, you'll be more ready to do it.

If you just no fap, your brain will think girl+you=nosex. Really.

>>569039085
That's why I save videos and pictures, for when I need to fap in a hurry.

>>569068635
tyba, im gonna do this after i get some pot so i can fantasize easier, and i heard fapping is awesome when high

>tfw over 1500 high def videos taking up over 1TB on external HD

yeah, it definitely is a thing

>>569067865
no offense but thats a really shitty mile and a half

>>569069172
Good luck and enjoy.
Avoid porn completely for a healthier sex life in the future.

>>569054334
How to bullshit.

>>569069372
i'm gonna try, thank you

>>569032719

No, it's called a Sex Drive. As your sex drive builds up you want to satisfy it the same way when your thirst builds up and you need to quench it.

>>569069561
You're welcome.
Good luck with the girl.
Does she know you like her?

>>569047230
looks like hes going to throw up so hard.
he needs an oscar

>>569039085
>have to find just the right video
This. I'll never understand why I'll spend a half hour looking for a video to fap for 10 minutes. It's not like different videos are going to affect the intensity of orgasm. And yet I still do it.

>>569064928
This is the biggest load of self-contradictory crap I've ever seen. Fuck these people who think this is 'wise' - they're the reason there's a market for self-help books. God this has made me angry...

ITT: People who have no idea what porn addiction is

I am a borderline porn addict. I horde porn almost daily, I look at it on my phone, I even sometimes think about it during sex. I sometimes would rather video tape me and my gf having sex and then use that to get off rather than actually have sex. I have a hard time going ling times (even just a day) without looking at porn

I also hardly masturbate more than once a day to every other day. You guys are idiots

>>569052698
If anyone picks porn over having physical human contact with another, then I don't know what to say about said person.

>>569067865
Wtf is this

>>569069371
That's fine, so long as you can go farther in less time.

>>569069905
Stop doing it.
I managed to - I was spending hours a day harvesting that shit until a few years ago.
Then I realised it was controlling me - after I had been doing it for 15+ years. Wasted fucking time and who knows what kind of secondary effects it had on me.

Delete all your porn, use a secure deleter so you can't undelete it - you won't regret it. After a few weeks or months you won't even think about it again.

>>569070223
Feminism's final goal.

>>569069658
almost positive, even though were seniors in high school shit is just like 7th grade, all our friends talk to each other bout it and plan shit, now when i see her in the halls i call her out and talk with her, she seems down we get coffee sometimes, can't find a good time to make a move but i'll get there in a week or two, she's unlike any girl i've been with before she's so chill even though she's a hipster, the only bad thing I can imagine happening is when we go to college

>>569067865
That's really not a good mile and a half...like at all

>>569070157

my point exactly. it's people who justify their own pathetic lives who do that kind of shit.

>>569069831
>10 minutes
more like 30 seconds

>>569070714

it's good for a NEET shut-in neckbeard, which is what he is. that's why he's not in the military anymore and is trying to get a real education at almost 30 years old, yet tries to feel superior on teh interwebz, because you're really a macho man if you win an argument here.

>>569044739
I watch 1.1 porn.

>>569070964

I mean who else would spend hours uploading Power Rangers pictures and trying to compare himself to Einstein and Tesla? Only an MRA who thinks he's better than women.

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>>569070714
As I said, if you can do better, show us.

>>569070964
Again, I doubt you can even run 50 meters. I guess your handler let you back online though, after you got done with those chores in the apartment she likely pays for.

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>>569071135
And they're not Power Rangers, they're Super Sentai. Plus, it's hardly been that long.

Pic: Sharivan.

>>569070651
Don't waste any time now - or you'll regret it in the future. Pluck up courage, tell her you like her and would she like to go somewhere with you in the evening or at the weekend. Do something fun where you can talk and learn about each other - not just watch a film.

Don't leave it building up until you spill out "I LOVE YOU!" when you haven't even had one date. Girls don't generally like that.

The reason for moving quickly? Avoid the friendzone, avoid wasting time, avoid someone else beating you to it, avoid her losing interest because you never make a move.

Flirt more, give her a kiss if the date goes well.
I don't know if you need this advice.

I fap a ton. 31 now, been flappy daily, often multiple times a day since I was 12.

Not into kinky, extreme porn. Still watch good ol' vaginal sex, lesbians, anal, blowjobs, the classics. Not into bondage, rape porn, scat, piss, BBWs or any of that shit. The normal stuff still does it for me just fine.

I have sex, admittedly, it is often (though certainly not always) with hookers. I can get it up just fine. No issues staying hard. No issues cumming. I do, however, have very good recovery time and stamina. I can cum 4 or 5 times in a session no problem.

Never bought into the whole "masturbating to porn breaks your dick" shit.

>>569071412

I wouldn't go for a kiss on the first date though, I know some girls are creeped out by that.

Make your move but don't move too quickly.

>>569071412
I wanna work fast but i've been so fucking busy with college apps, and my saturday nights are spent working, i'm trying to get my shift changed, and yea i've done the beta i love you shit before i'm never doing that shit again, I'm just trying to be cute cause the last girl i was with fucked me up cause she was into hella kinky shit like slapping and choking and i don't want that to be a thing i like

>>569071664
He'll be able to tell if she wants the kiss if she is looking into his eyes a lot then down to his lips. Then she's expecting it.

He could just hold her hand - any move is good.
Start physical contact early, a touch on the arm even.

>>569071553

depends on people's libidos then i guess. i'm fine going a day here or there no fapping and no sex. i used to fap once or twice daily, it was rare i skipped a day. i guess my libido just kinda dropped a little, plus sex takes a lot more effort than fapping, and having sex shortly after fapping takes a lot more time and effort as well, and just isn't as good.

>>569071916
That's good dude, sticking with who you are.

>>569071930
yea im trying to initiate contact next, then go for a kiss or something

>>569071930

with my gf we hugged on the first date, then on the second date we held hands and kissed. it probably just depends. a lot of people have sex after the first date and a lot of people wait months to have sex, it just depends on the person i guess.

>>569070868
what?

>>569071553
Because that "masturbating to porn breaks your dick" bullshit is some feminist nonsense meant to discourage self-pleasure. You start getting backed up, you run to some bitch, fuck her, have x-amount of kids, and find yourself paying out of your ass to support her and those bad ass children. Meanwhile, your masculinity and zest for life fades as you find yourself constantly running behind them, doing stupid shit like dressing up as a giant frog for Halloween or paying hundreds of bucks on toys to keep those little shits from crying all throughout Kwanzaa.

Pro-Natal pressures, man...

>>569072171
how old were you at the time? cause with my first girl it was a christmas party and after i gave her a gift i went for it, then just kept moving forward with every date

>>569070354
Yeah I've been thinking about doing that. It's really fucking hard, especially with the internet, and 4chan being my website of choice.

>>569072171
also another thing that I'm actually fucking afraid of, I've never tongue kissed a chick, like my ex and i never did that shit, and any girl i've hooked up with i've never gone for it idk how to start that shit now

>>569071976
Well, my libido is pretty insane these days. It was always fairly high, but a couple years back, I dated this girl, sweet girl, but extremely anxious. She had major anxiety issues around sex, and in the year and a half we dated, I didn't get past the very occasional blowjob (like maybe five or six times total in all that time). Since then, being blue balled all that time, my libido has been through the roof.

I think it's kinda like when Goku gets his ass kicked really bad, then goes super saiyan. My penis went super saiyan from all the abuse it took.

>>569072424

I was 21, she was 19.

>>569071206
>>569072405

Do you even hear yourself? "Handler"? Seriously dude? Are there actually people like you in the world who talk and act like this? I can't tell if you're trolling because I have never met someone who hates women this much. Don't be so bitter, dude. Seriously. Do you actually believe the shit you're spouting out?

You can think you've "won" your argument, I don't care. You can think I'm pathetic for actually having a girlfriend who makes money, maybe you just dated some bitch who stole all your money and cheated on you with a nigger, and now you think women are vile vermin out to get every last penny out of us, I don't fucking know.

>>569072685

Hopefully the girl is cool about it. I hadn't had much kissing experience before my gf and she said I was a really bad kisser at first.

>>569072171
I kissed my girlfriend on the second sort of date too - I could tell she wanted it on the first, but I wasn't sure, so I left it. The moment was better on the second anyway.

>>569072659
It's hard - but if you are thinking about doing it, you want to do it. So just do it - don't hesitate or think about it. Download a file shredding programme and drag a directory of a big chunk of the porn you don't really like into it.
Keep going like that, once you've shredded it all - even if it takes a days or weeks of going back to it and deleting another directory each time, you will feel a lot better and a lot freer.

After I did that I didn't really have the same drive to collect porn anymore either.
Even if you are viewing it on 4chan etc afterwards, it isn't the same kind of hold or time waste as collecting all that useless shit.

>>569072685
Start gradually.
It will come naturally if it does - and you can practise and reciprocate.
If the girl has done it before, you just copy her movements. If not - then just improvise.

Just stick your tongue out a bit and lick one of her lips a bit, just a flick of your tongue - then if she opens her mouth or tries licking you, you can try licking the tip of her tongue and so on.

Don't be afraid to try new things, because every time you try - you will become better at them.
All of life is practice.

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>>569073284
She is your 'handler,' because you orient your daily life around her. You've already said she buys a lot of "your" stuff, so she likely feeds you too, which only cements what I've been saying. Trolling? No, I'm dead serious here, which is probably taboo to do online.

And you're mistaken: no one "hates" women here. I'm just able to, unlike you and the folks like you, look passed women. See a "hot" chick? Don't even look at her. Don't even give her that kind of validation or attention she's seeking. That's what I do. I don't feel the need to go protesting and "hating women" as you people put it (you really don't know the meaning of "hate"), I'm just able to life a decent life without them interfering with what I want to do.

It's find that your girlfriend makes money, but it's a shame that she actually has to take the time to provide for you and do for you what a mother would. Thankfully, I've never had to deal with that, nor have I dealt with some bitch who stole all of my money. I had no woman cheat on me with a nigger, be they a black, white, Asian, nor Hispanic nigger, but I'm smart enough to know that I don't need some bitch to validate my existence and make me feel good about myself.

You are sick, sir.

>>569074053
gotta get a growth mindset, not a fixed mindset

>>569033904
I failed nofap 24hours.
>tfw I fail that a lot ;_;

>>569074624
I know a kid who went all of lent without it, he's sort of a weird lover boy, but he did it and without any type of sex

>>569074624
Keep trying - eventually you'll reach 24 hours without.
First week is the hardest, after that it becomes much easier.

>>569074121
This is basically why I fuck hookers now.

I realized how much control women have on your average male's life. You don't even think about it, but so many things you do are because of women. The way you dress, the way you act, the way you think, everything.

I realized this, and I wanted out, so I started fucking hookers. Now, I don't even think about women anymore. Sometimes I go out somewhere and I happen to incidentally meet a cool chick, and I'll give it a go, but I don't look for it and I don't need to.

It's very liberating.

>>569075332
Thank you, that's the way. If you really want to find a lot of low-priced and quality hookers, I'd suggest South Korea. Pic related. The whores there are required by law (though not on-paper) to stay disease free, so they're tested twice a week for a number of STDs. If anything is found, they're released from that career path, and can never be prostitutes in the peninsula ever again.

But you see that's pretty much what women are these days: pump n' dumps. The vaj is just a warm, moist place to put your dick in for a few minutes, and after you cum, you "come" to your senses and realize you wasted a lot of effort, time, and energy on something so trivial and easily obtainable. Don't let it run your life. There are so many other great things a man can get into other than some disease-ridden pussy.

Got a hobby? Become the best in it. I could go on.

>>569039595
virgin pls
>>569033761
mmmnn more of this inverted nips are the best, of the two girlfriends i ever had one had inverted nips, hands down the best part was sucking on them watching them slowly get erect

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>>569032719
Yes.