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>if you fap while staring to a blank canvas its a natural human process known as masturbation >if you fap while looking at porn its a degenerate addiction that will ruin your life and make you go blind
Well, actually i have been fapping daily for most of my life but in the past new years i made a promise not to fap ever again at least during the year of 2014 and im holding strong so far so i would say no, fapping is not an addiction
Maybe you just overcame your fapping addiction? Some people break out of their smoking addictions while others just cant, it doesn't mean its not an addiction just because someone managed to break it au naturele.
It's not an addiction, but too much porn is dangerous to your sex life. It gets harder and harder to find things that turn you on. You have to seek out very specific types of porn (such as amateur home-made videos of young girls dancing or such) and nothing else will work. Most porn becomes a parody and impossible not to find funny, not arousing at all.
I think as the years go by and now that the internet is full swing, we'll see a lot more men with the inability to get aroused for their wives or such unless some specific fetish shit is in play. Once you've seen 100,000+ women naked, it takes something special to do it for you,.
>>569032719 I think It is, there are many documented cases which prove it to be a real problem for some people. I would say I have a slight problem with, not so much porn, but just looking at naked women in general. I am always looking for interesting looking women to ogle, now this seldom leads to fapping I just like to look at tits ass backs legs panties faces bellies etc etc
8 months? are you serious? if she doesn't arouse you to the point that you haven't had sex in 8 fucking months then why did you marry her in the first place? i mean jeez i feel bad when my gf and i don't have sex for a few days straight.
>>569032719 Yes OP - obviously not in the same way that physically addictive things are addictive, like heroin, or smoking.
But your brain, releases hormones that are craved like dopamine when exposed to pornography, and eventually after a duration of watching pornography it becomes very habitual to attain this fix, just like someone who smokes. It becomes a part of your daily routine, and you feel odd/agitated etc if you don't get said "fix".
tl;dr yes, and its recognized by medical professionals.
Sex is supposed to be addictive. It delivers a powerful pleasure reward to reinforce whatever behaviors you are doing. If you are sitting in front of your computer with your pants down this is the behavior that gets reinforced. That being said there is little evidence for major harm caused by porn addiction.
>>569032719 I think it's real. I need ever more extreme imagery to get me going, i rarely fap without porn. It's slightly worrying as I like some pretty sick shit and i'd rather not go on the sex offenders register. >>569040048 38 , single & no fuck inabout 2 months: can i borrow your wife anon? Can you post her to Scotland, I'd send her back when I'm done.
The ball shot is the fucking worst. I always fast forward through it. But I never thought about the camera man who has to have bare man ass in his face. I wonder how many times some dude has ripped ass in his face during the heat of the moment
>>569034809 I Watch Porn All The time. I gap like 4 times a day. And even then I still fuck my gf . And I cum in her mouth everytime. One draw back from porn is that you don't really ever build up your current. Reserve. She complains about this all the time.
Porn has made me a sexual demi god. after years of watching kinky shit regular sex is so unstimulating whenenever I fuck my girlfriend I last for hours. Seriously, it's made her all self consious. She blew me for an hour and nothing. I had to wank myself off while I fingered her butthole. still stay hard though.
Porn is safer than real sex. No risk of disease or pregnancy. No emotional pain from breakups - cheating. No high cost of dating or marriage. No risk of legal penalties for indulging your darkest fantasy.
>>569043848 >I need ever more extreme imagery to get me going
This is the real rub of the issue. Once you've acquired a taste for the perverse, normal shit stops doing it for you, which can be a problem should you be one of the few /b/tards who has sex with real women.
>>569047764 Nudes are porn. I only fap to pics (I don't really care for vids because they're too fakey most of the time and I don't want to have to time my jizz so I', mot staring at some dude's face at the time), and I still find myself having to come up with more and more weird fantasies to turn me on. Of course, I've been at this a while.
Yeah you can pretty much get addicted to anything. There are different forms of addiction with the two main ones being physical and mental. Porn can fall under mental where u feel like you need it and cannot stop yourself from watching it.
also I would like to add it's why I like going on /b/, /gif/, and /s/ for my porn because there are more nudes than anything. the only videos i really like getting off to are like, Remy LaCroix and her hula hoop shit, which isn't really porn as much as it's her dancing naked (fucking hot as hell, too).
An addiction is only an addiction when it's interfering with your life. If you keep missing out on things because of it, you need to shut porn off for a bit. And yes, most experts agree porn addiction is a thing.
>>569047817 4chan didn't censor it, but someone else uploaded a pic in the same second you did, and it got the same unix timecode plus extra random numbers. so only one picture "survived". happens every now and then.
>>569041440 When you marry someone its not just about fucking every day. You become more than just attracted to their body. The romantic love may pass but they become family. They become your other half. Not just about the sex.
Talk to men who have had sex with women and who masturbate to a lot of porn. Vanilla sex starts to lose its appeal once your fantasies have moved to incest with a chubby hairy girl who pisses in your mouth.
>>569034572 So is food, sleep, and everything else possible to do in this world. Hence everything is bad. Oh and Porn is actually good for you and keeps the sexual organs in shape. Am aware of pun. Being a dickhead on /b/ doesn't help but I believe OP loves you when you are one.
but I'm saying if you're not sexually attracted to her then why did you marry her? i'm confused. i didn't say being married was about fucking every day, but if your wife can't turn you on at all enough to have sex in an 8 month period then i think you might've married the wrong person.
Ive been fapping like everyone else since I was like 11/12. Since 14 I have watched internet porn. I'd say 99% of my orgasms are reached while watching porn. And I have watched perhaps every type there currently is. I never considered myself an addict until recently. Without visual stimulus I become easily distracted and could lose my erection.
I was having a difficult time maintaining a full erection if I stopped jerking for a few seconds.
So I decided to stop fapping. I deleted all my porn links, and its been 16 long days now. I do get erections that I cant avoid and I try my best to not focus on the blueballs feeling. Its becoming easier. I feel even the unwanted erections are more powerful and easier to maintain. I cant tell yet if my focus is improved or if there are any other benefits. Right now I'm pretty much feeling normal but I just fill up my time without porn.
I started fapping at age 10 or 11, did it completely on imagination until around 18 years old (didn't have my own computer or anything to use for porn in private). over time I had easier and easier access to porn and pornographic material so i used my imagination less and less. now i can get off on imagination but it's a bit more difficult when it's so easy to hop on the internet and find whatever you want.
>>569049386 >but I'm saying if you're not sexually attracted to her then why did you marry her?
Not the guy you responded to, but as a divorcedfag I can say that he was likely sexually attracted to her at the beginning, but over the years the same old, same old made it boring. Add porn and extreme fantasies to the mix, and it becomes even harder to become aroused by the thought of fucking your wife for the 1000th time. Even if you mix in some new shit (my ex went for anal after 10 years together), there's too much sameness to get you going.
Sex with the same person becomes mechanical over time, but you stay married out of inertia. You still love her, you probably think she's still pretty (unless she got fat), but the sex itself is so routine you stop looking forward to it.
Also, once you haven't had sex with your wife for a while, like a month, it becomes even more awkward to initiate, and this just builds over time. After 3 months, it feels weird to just initiate sex out of the blue.
>>569047709 beg to disagree. when fapping on the web I'm as fucked up as the next guy, but I'm aware it's just images on a screen. there was never a moment with any of my exes when I tore apart the bedroom in a rage like WTF YOU WON'T EVEN LET ME TIE YOU UP AND PISS ON YOU
[spoiler]n...not that I would be into that[/spoiler]
I don't think it's really someone on a screen doing a better job, I think it's the fact that a lot of people would rather have access to the tons and tons of porn available on the web rather than a real life woman, especially since most of the people on here don't know how to talk to people IRL correctly. I mean think about it: how is a real life woman, with one body type, supposed to fulfill someone who has an insatiable desire to constantly be watching something new and fresh? We have access to millions of women on the internet, for people who get bored very easily, no real life woman is going to be able to keep up with that if you constantly need something new.
I mean a lot of the fat neckbeards on here will say "hurr durr real life women can't compete with my needs" when they've really just masturbated themselves into a dopamine stupor and can't even get hard to anything remotely vanilla anymore.
Porn addiction is real, I'm experiencing withdrawal right now. I decided to abstain from fapping some days ago after I found out that fapping reduces testosterone, that and sometimes I had trouble getting hard for my gf and when I managed to get hard it took me an hour to come. I managed 3 days without porn, when I fucked my gf I was harder, came faster and was ready for seconds. But then withdrawal kicked in and I couldn't help but open my porn folder. I didn't give up though, now I just edge till just before I come and I feel bad for doing so.
>>569052698 Yeah, but real life woman=real life problems, and real life problems bring real life bullshit. A woman will fuck you here or there (when she feels like it), give you that nut, then later decide she doesn't like you any more. That's when she can claim you raped her, abused her, and collect child-support for a bastard kid that may or may not even be yours. Not to mention that real women (especially in the west) are filthy, and even wearing a condom can still get you one or three STDs.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, I'd rather take a boatload of porn and dating sims before I have to deal with actual women. Contrary to what you might be thinking, I'm not fat nor am I a NEET; I'm a Uni senior, and I love going to school. I've got plenty of female friends in real life, but I'll be damned before I let myself get emotionally involved with any of them.
This is why once you cum after stroking it, you're no longer horny for a while: that's all women are good for.
I hear this kind of bullshit all the time on this goddamn website. People like you are just too lazy to take the time to find a decent woman.
>inb4 hurr durr all women are crazy and will cheat on you
People who would rather masturbate than find an actual woman are pathetic.
And before you say that I'll end up paying for everything for a woman, my girlfriend makes a LOT more money than I do and she pays for a lot of stuff for me.
People like you think that they're better than women. If you told anyone that you'd rather masturbate and watch porn in real life than be a normal social human being and have a relationship, they'd tell you to your face that you're a loser unless they're just like you.
>i've got plenty of female friends in real life
female friends =/= female friends who would fuck you anyone can have female friends
>>569055269 But you know I'm telling the truth. If a lot of people observe the same phenomena, guess what? The phenomena is actually happening.
While it's great right now that your girlfriend makes more money than you do (and buys your stuff), don't be mistaken: she sees you as her child, with the only difference being that she can have sex with you. If you ever get into an argument, guess what? She's going to pull the fact that she has always made more money than you and has provided for you. You are literally at her mercy.
Masturbation is the safest sex, since it only involves me, and I don't need any special protection or worry after I'm finished. If I choose to do it again later, I can without having to ask permission first.
With this post, you're kind of coming off as a S.I.M.P: Someone idolizing mediocre pussy.
>female friends Just putting that out there, so you don't think I'm some socially inept NEET who can't even talk to women. As a man, I am intrinsically smarter, stronger, and overall better than them, and not some beta who has a woman provide for him.
You've derailed my comment into talking about my girlfriend making more money than me. It doesn't make you less pathetic for sitting at home staring at a screen with your dick out all day, making excuses for your porn addiction and your inability to actually have sex with a real life woman.
If you really think you're that much better than women, I can bet you're one of those guys who complains about being friendzoned, because almost every male who has had some amount of sex will never claim that their hand is better than a real life woman.
fapping only makes you last longer if you're still having sex regularly. if i fap for a few days then have sex with my gf i'm still going to cum relatively quickly because sex is of course much better.
>>569056535 Didn't intend to derail anything, but I'm not as pathetic as having a woman provide everything for me. That's really the only reason you're with her: she provides for you, so you've convinced yourself that you "need" her, and have thus become a beta. I provide everything for myself, am a senior in Uni, and going to grad school soon after.
I don't complain about being "friendzoned." Quite the contrary, in fact. Have you heard of MGTOW? It's for those of us who don't need a woman to tell us what to do, when to do it, how to do it, or provide for us. We're not as dependent on women as you.
you're just mad you don't have a woman at your every beck and call willing to fuck you whenever you want and buy you whatever you want, so you are justifying the fact that no woman on this earth could stand to be around you, so you say "hurr durr i don't need woman, me man, me do whatever me want"
>>569057410 >implying Not saying you can't, just that you likely don't since you have a woman doing it for you. It's funny that you say she's at your 'beck and call,' but if she says "no," you'll have le blue balls until she decides you deserve to be pleasured again.
You betas sure know how to call them. It just surprises myself and others like me that you'd defend a woman who likely doesn't give 2 shits about you so virulently. Enjoy that chain...not much of a ball left.
>>569057854 an actual scientific article? no. but if you feel a compulsion to save tons of pics that you dont look at that dont improve your life in any way its an addiction. if you save so much porn you get anxious whenever someone asks to borrow your computer its bad. if you jack off to the point it interferes with your life outside the internet its unhealthy. everything in moderation. dont do things if they start to detract from your life. its not that fucking complicated
The funny thing is that she never says "no" because she actually cares about me and shit. Don't get so bitter so young because you don't have a woman to love.
I'd say probably start by talking to women you don't give a shit about and being confident overall. Talk to and smile at people in public. If you fuck up and look like an idiot to the cashier at Dunkin Donuts, then oh well, they MIGHT remember you as "that goofy awkward dude" but it's just a thing you gotta work on.
>>569058707 She probably says "yes" so you won't feel bad about yourself. Because you know, gotta keep a baby entertained, and that's how she views you. Here, maybe after watching this vid you'll wake up from your seemingly endless stupor. "Love" is that shit women use to control you...other than those meat curtains in their panties.
>>569032719 There is a lot of weird porn on the internet. Im not talking about mainstream basic bdsm, im talking about borderline illegal, absolutely disgusting pornography. And people get off on it.
Sure, there are some sick fucks that actually enjoy those, but the fact remains that most of this porn came into existence because once porn became widespread, people watched it a lot, and the more they watched it, the more weird things they wanted.
Hence, porn addiction is real. People get addicted to porn, watch a lot of it, then they want weird things, creating a demand for weird porn. Then suppy comes in, creating a demand for ever weirder porn. If people weren't addicted, they would've been fine with the current porn content.
so instead of justifying yourself now you're just repeating yourself. i'm a baby because i'm in a committed relationship like a normal adult? come back to me in 20 years when you have no friends and your right forearm is literally twice the size of your left.
i feel bad for people who feel the way you do. it must be sad going through life so bitter at women. i bet you think they all belong in the kitchen and that they shouldn't be able to vote.
>>569060148 I've done more than enough to justify myself, which has been met with constant strawman arguments and ad hominems. She sees you as a "baby" because she not only makes more than you do, but pays for the things you use. Do you not understand that? In her mind, you're not considered a 'real man' because she 'brings home the bacon,' and she buys the stuff. I don't understand how you keep missing that.
I feel bad for men who are at the whim of their women. Unable to do for yourself or think for yourself, because you'd rather let some woman do it all for you. It's easier that way, and you have the possibility of being able to sleep with them. That easily controlled...pathetic.
>>569060365 At no point did I say everyone was. But you need to watch the video, and understand what the word "misandry" means. Better you learn it now, than when you're being screwed by the system.
I honestly cannot believe how asleep everyone in here is.
>>569060864 I'm not 'being an asshole' about it, nor did I say "normal" human beings were unable to care for themselves. It's just that, in your case, you seem to take pride in being provided for by someone who is naturally less than. But, I take it you're considerably younger than I am (I'm 25), and thus don't have your eyes open just yet.
Oh, and if you know how to care for yourself better than a doctor can in some cases, wouldn't it make sense to self-medicate instead of paying some schmuck in a suit to give you a placebo? Think about that.
I said you kept bringing the money factor into this when I actually buy a lot of my own shit, too. Money has nothing to do with the fact that you blame your inadequacies with women on "hurr durr women are useless and evil."
But people on anonymous image boards have quite the confidence, don't they? I bet you wouldn't say any of this to anyone you know IRL. Which is another point of mine that you ignored to call me a useless baby.
>>569061810 *sigh* So I was right then: you are very young. You don't even realize how big a factor money plays when it comes to relationships, but that makes since considering you earn significantly less than your handler.
I actually have said this to a number of other men IRL. Keep in mind, I'm not some young, zit-faced, edgy teenager like the rest of /b/. Unlike you all, I have absolutely no fear in telling people what they need to hear, regardless of whether they want to or not. That being said, I've helped many men who were suffering at the hands of a wench realize their worth as men, and have gone on to recreate themselves without the need or company of a bitch. This is something you'll have to learn at one point or another, or continue being half the man you could be without some broad taking up so much of your time and energy.
>bringing age, an unrelated factor, into the argument
I'm actually in my mid 20s as well. you are too thick headed to realize that you're a lonely, worthless loser who thinks all women are out to get him.
women probably think you're a piece of shit and men are probably too busy to argue with you so everyone just agrees with you to shut you up. i can guarantee than any normal person can't stand people like you.
wait, you're a senior at university? how are you still in school at 25? do mommy and daddy make you pay rent? one class a semester must be hard work on someone who's so mad all the time.
>>569062890 >says age is an unrelated factor >follows it up with an onslaught of personal insults and ad hominem While you may be chronologically in your mid-20s (which I still don't fully believe, but whatever), you're still mentally in your teen-years when it comes to this particular topic.
I don't give a shit what women think; unlike you, I'm not a pussy-whipped S.I.M.P who seeks validation through the approval of women.
I started school when I was 21. Unlike the rest of you, I had a lot to go through before I got here (a few years of military service being one of them). Oh, and I do 6 classes per semester, and no one else pays for them but me; that is, I don't have my girlfriend paying for my college education, which I'm lead to believe you probably did.
The only thing "laughable" here, is how your dick is basically in someone else's pocket.
Pic: One of the things I'll be working on when I'm done. Can you say the same?
>>569063157 And no, I'm not /that/ guy in my classes. In spite of not having to answer up to every thing, I still know more than most of the people in a majority of my classes. But I'm sure this bothers you, knowing that someone who is self-sufficient and fine with being single outclasses you in almost every imaginable way.
>>569054428 Just delete all the porn on your computer. I did it - starting with the porn I didn't really like or was bored of. Eventually it was all gone - and hasn't returned. Feels much better. I wasn't even looking at most of the stuff I was saving or downloading - it was just a constant collecting, sometimes sitting for hours saving images and videos.
>>569060898 that was a shitty video by some autistic loser just repeating the shit he reads on here. the way your rambling on on makes it sound like you have some grudge against women. sure there are some really unfair things some women do towards men, just as there are unfair things men do to women. both have their pros and cons in society. there are plenty of women who are decent human beings so i dont hold them accountable for the actions of assholes.
btw, saying shit like "i cant believe how asleep everyone is" make you sound like a conspiracy nut. seriously whats more likely, you and a few others are privy to a society changing idea, or theres simply something wrong i the way you interact with others.
>>569064256 Did you know that Tesla was actually a 'god among MGTOW?' Think of the greatest minds in history such as Tesla and Einstein, and see that they got there without wasting their time trying to please a bitch just so they can sleep together. Now, think about how much time, energy, and effort you put into basically soiling whatever chance you had at being anything close to these men, simply because you just can't wait to sleep with a woman.
By "asleep," I mean how easily controlled and manipulated you boys are by women. They have you all wrapped around their little fish-smelling fingers, but you're too stubborn to acknowledge or even accept the fact that they basically own you. The clothes you buy, the things you watch, even the way you talk and think on a regular basis are all controlled by them. You're 'asleep' because you don't realize it.
yeah being idle is what does it. like i said even sometimes after i have sex with my gf, she'll go to work and if i have the day off sometimes i'll rub one out a little while after she leaves because i have the afternoon off for 8 hours until she gets home.
i fapped more when i lived back at home with my parents. even then i noticed that going out with friends and such kept me from doing it too much.
that being said, like i said, it's okay to do it as long as it's not too often.
how do you deal with the constant exposure to porn on four chan? i block thumbnails ant click carefully the images i want to see... but sometimes an unrelated filename fools me and i watch a nigger dick... i hate this...
if you want to stop fapping then get off of 4chan. this is a breeding ground for people who sit around doing nothing all day but posting porn and fapping. seriously, i fapped way less when i just altogether stopped going on 4chan (or at least stop going on boards that get porn posted to them).
>>569064806 lol implying scientific smarts has anything to do with social understanding. besides, not wanting to get married =/= hating women. marriage just wasnt for them and thats their thing. not all people want to or can devote their life to science. inventions are not the only criteria for a lifes worth
seriously i wonder if you misoginists are really just gays in denial, or if your just such an asshole that no women wants near you.
lel just ignore him, there's no use arguing with someone so retarded. saying that he'd rather jack off than get up off his fat ass and find a real woman, then equating it to being like Einstein or Tesla, he's so convinced he's this generation's next great mind when he's just a misogynist, military asshole.
>>569065154 Seen the video before - I still wonder though. I stopped porning for a year or so - then slipped slowly back into it. I don't look at it all the time - can go for weeks without fapping - but I would still rather never go near porn again. Yet it has the draw - see it by accident, or more likely - bored, go to 4chan - and >>569065841 >>569066049 happens.
>>569065258 I had dick problems when I was first with my girlfriend. A lot must have been caused by my porn fap habit of 15+ years. I cured quite a bit of it, by months of sex with her, and avoiding porn completely. I was living with her at the time - lately I've been spending more time alone with nothing constructive to do - and unhealthy habits return. Wasting time on computer games, fapping to porn.
yeah i've had times where i fapped, then later that day tried to have sex, and i couldn't get it up. i've since learned how to incorporate fapping into my routine without it interfering with sex, but still i would prefer to do it as little as possible.
>>569068221 Fap no more than once a week to the fantasy of penetrating her vagina in first person perspective (this is extra detail to avoid it being a porn, third person fantasy). Your brain and penis will become conditioned to the idea of having sex with her - and if the chance occurs, you'll be more ready to do it.
If you just no fap, your brain will think girl+you=nosex. Really.
>>569039085 >have to find just the right video This. I'll never understand why I'll spend a half hour looking for a video to fap for 10 minutes. It's not like different videos are going to affect the intensity of orgasm. And yet I still do it.
>>569064928 This is the biggest load of self-contradictory crap I've ever seen. Fuck these people who think this is 'wise' - they're the reason there's a market for self-help books. God this has made me angry...
ITT: People who have no idea what porn addiction is
I am a borderline porn addict. I horde porn almost daily, I look at it on my phone, I even sometimes think about it during sex. I sometimes would rather video tape me and my gf having sex and then use that to get off rather than actually have sex. I have a hard time going ling times (even just a day) without looking at porn
I also hardly masturbate more than once a day to every other day. You guys are idiots
>>569069905 Stop doing it. I managed to - I was spending hours a day harvesting that shit until a few years ago. Then I realised it was controlling me - after I had been doing it for 15+ years. Wasted fucking time and who knows what kind of secondary effects it had on me.
Delete all your porn, use a secure deleter so you can't undelete it - you won't regret it. After a few weeks or months you won't even think about it again.
>>569069658 almost positive, even though were seniors in high school shit is just like 7th grade, all our friends talk to each other bout it and plan shit, now when i see her in the halls i call her out and talk with her, she seems down we get coffee sometimes, can't find a good time to make a move but i'll get there in a week or two, she's unlike any girl i've been with before she's so chill even though she's a hipster, the only bad thing I can imagine happening is when we go to college
it's good for a NEET shut-in neckbeard, which is what he is. that's why he's not in the military anymore and is trying to get a real education at almost 30 years old, yet tries to feel superior on teh interwebz, because you're really a macho man if you win an argument here.
>>569070651 Don't waste any time now - or you'll regret it in the future. Pluck up courage, tell her you like her and would she like to go somewhere with you in the evening or at the weekend. Do something fun where you can talk and learn about each other - not just watch a film.
Don't leave it building up until you spill out "I LOVE YOU!" when you haven't even had one date. Girls don't generally like that.
The reason for moving quickly? Avoid the friendzone, avoid wasting time, avoid someone else beating you to it, avoid her losing interest because you never make a move.
Flirt more, give her a kiss if the date goes well. I don't know if you need this advice.
I fap a ton. 31 now, been flappy daily, often multiple times a day since I was 12.
Not into kinky, extreme porn. Still watch good ol' vaginal sex, lesbians, anal, blowjobs, the classics. Not into bondage, rape porn, scat, piss, BBWs or any of that shit. The normal stuff still does it for me just fine.
I have sex, admittedly, it is often (though certainly not always) with hookers. I can get it up just fine. No issues staying hard. No issues cumming. I do, however, have very good recovery time and stamina. I can cum 4 or 5 times in a session no problem.
Never bought into the whole "masturbating to porn breaks your dick" shit.
>>569071412 I wanna work fast but i've been so fucking busy with college apps, and my saturday nights are spent working, i'm trying to get my shift changed, and yea i've done the beta i love you shit before i'm never doing that shit again, I'm just trying to be cute cause the last girl i was with fucked me up cause she was into hella kinky shit like slapping and choking and i don't want that to be a thing i like
depends on people's libidos then i guess. i'm fine going a day here or there no fapping and no sex. i used to fap once or twice daily, it was rare i skipped a day. i guess my libido just kinda dropped a little, plus sex takes a lot more effort than fapping, and having sex shortly after fapping takes a lot more time and effort as well, and just isn't as good.
with my gf we hugged on the first date, then on the second date we held hands and kissed. it probably just depends. a lot of people have sex after the first date and a lot of people wait months to have sex, it just depends on the person i guess.
>>569071553 Because that "masturbating to porn breaks your dick" bullshit is some feminist nonsense meant to discourage self-pleasure. You start getting backed up, you run to some bitch, fuck her, have x-amount of kids, and find yourself paying out of your ass to support her and those bad ass children. Meanwhile, your masculinity and zest for life fades as you find yourself constantly running behind them, doing stupid shit like dressing up as a giant frog for Halloween or paying hundreds of bucks on toys to keep those little shits from crying all throughout Kwanzaa.
>>569072171 also another thing that I'm actually fucking afraid of, I've never tongue kissed a chick, like my ex and i never did that shit, and any girl i've hooked up with i've never gone for it idk how to start that shit now
>>569071976 Well, my libido is pretty insane these days. It was always fairly high, but a couple years back, I dated this girl, sweet girl, but extremely anxious. She had major anxiety issues around sex, and in the year and a half we dated, I didn't get past the very occasional blowjob (like maybe five or six times total in all that time). Since then, being blue balled all that time, my libido has been through the roof.
I think it's kinda like when Goku gets his ass kicked really bad, then goes super saiyan. My penis went super saiyan from all the abuse it took.
Do you even hear yourself? "Handler"? Seriously dude? Are there actually people like you in the world who talk and act like this? I can't tell if you're trolling because I have never met someone who hates women this much. Don't be so bitter, dude. Seriously. Do you actually believe the shit you're spouting out?
You can think you've "won" your argument, I don't care. You can think I'm pathetic for actually having a girlfriend who makes money, maybe you just dated some bitch who stole all your money and cheated on you with a nigger, and now you think women are vile vermin out to get every last penny out of us, I don't fucking know.
>>569072171 I kissed my girlfriend on the second sort of date too - I could tell she wanted it on the first, but I wasn't sure, so I left it. The moment was better on the second anyway.
>>569072659 It's hard - but if you are thinking about doing it, you want to do it. So just do it - don't hesitate or think about it. Download a file shredding programme and drag a directory of a big chunk of the porn you don't really like into it. Keep going like that, once you've shredded it all - even if it takes a days or weeks of going back to it and deleting another directory each time, you will feel a lot better and a lot freer.
After I did that I didn't really have the same drive to collect porn anymore either. Even if you are viewing it on 4chan etc afterwards, it isn't the same kind of hold or time waste as collecting all that useless shit.
>>569073284 She is your 'handler,' because you orient your daily life around her. You've already said she buys a lot of "your" stuff, so she likely feeds you too, which only cements what I've been saying. Trolling? No, I'm dead serious here, which is probably taboo to do online.
And you're mistaken: no one "hates" women here. I'm just able to, unlike you and the folks like you, look passed women. See a "hot" chick? Don't even look at her. Don't even give her that kind of validation or attention she's seeking. That's what I do. I don't feel the need to go protesting and "hating women" as you people put it (you really don't know the meaning of "hate"), I'm just able to life a decent life without them interfering with what I want to do.
It's find that your girlfriend makes money, but it's a shame that she actually has to take the time to provide for you and do for you what a mother would. Thankfully, I've never had to deal with that, nor have I dealt with some bitch who stole all of my money. I had no woman cheat on me with a nigger, be they a black, white, Asian, nor Hispanic nigger, but I'm smart enough to know that I don't need some bitch to validate my existence and make me feel good about myself.
I realized how much control women have on your average male's life. You don't even think about it, but so many things you do are because of women. The way you dress, the way you act, the way you think, everything.
I realized this, and I wanted out, so I started fucking hookers. Now, I don't even think about women anymore. Sometimes I go out somewhere and I happen to incidentally meet a cool chick, and I'll give it a go, but I don't look for it and I don't need to.
>>569075332 Thank you, that's the way. If you really want to find a lot of low-priced and quality hookers, I'd suggest South Korea. Pic related. The whores there are required by law (though not on-paper) to stay disease free, so they're tested twice a week for a number of STDs. If anything is found, they're released from that career path, and can never be prostitutes in the peninsula ever again.
But you see that's pretty much what women are these days: pump n' dumps. The vaj is just a warm, moist place to put your dick in for a few minutes, and after you cum, you "come" to your senses and realize you wasted a lot of effort, time, and energy on something so trivial and easily obtainable. Don't let it run your life. There are so many other great things a man can get into other than some disease-ridden pussy.
Got a hobby? Become the best in it. I could go on.
>>569039595 virgin pls >>569033761 mmmnn more of this inverted nips are the best, of the two girlfriends i ever had one had inverted nips, hands down the best part was sucking on them watching them slowly get erect
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