Is there anyone who lives in Japan? What do you do for living? How can a non-native English speaker find job in Japan?
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OP I think you probably need an extremely prestigious degree that will benefit Japan's economy in some way. Like to the point where you can offer them something they can't find in Japan.
Even a non-native English speaker can get a job teaching English here. There was an Israeli and a Venezuelan at a convo school where I used to work.
You need to be pretty competent, though, to compensate for an accent.
The JET program is the Japanese government's program to bring native English speakers over to teach in their high schools. That's how a lot of American and UK/Commonwealth people get over there.
Now, that doesn't apply to you, but they used to also bring a (much smaller) number of teachers over from Germany and France and maybe 1 or 2 other countries.
So like >>567930249
asked, what's your mother tongue?
A couple of friends told me I should get a job teaching in Japan and China. Said some don't even need you to speak the language.
They also said I could get laid.
And these were both female friends, one an ex.
Though China pays amazing, dunno if I would want to work there. They already own enough of US. Japan is tempting.
I think that is what my ex did. She even had little grade school kids that were adorable until they drove her nuts.
I think another friend started in that then found a job in his field over there at an actual company. Then he married a girl over there. He's black. She's from Shanghai. Both gaijins there.
China can be good, but watch out for their employment practices. There is often some horribly shady shit going on there: withholding pay, "company store"-type bullshit, keeping your passport... And there's little or no recourse if they pull that shit.
Why bother? The place is being filled with radioactive pollution ...Even as far from Fukushima as Tokyo is apparently showing dangerously high levels ... Then again since its being dumped into the Pacific by the megaton daily the rest of the Earth will be just as radioactive eventually.. http://enenews.com/japan-govt-tokyo-area-hit-unnoticed-wave-fukushima-radioactive-material-newspapers-heavily-contaminated-high-concentration-radiation-prime-minister-verge-evacuating-50-million-people-audio
If you're going over to teach English then, no, you usually don't need to speak Chinese or Japanese. However, you need to get up to speed quickly, or you will have a hard time getting by.
You can get laid anywhere.
Listening to females is a decision of questionable merit.
Unless things have changed a great deal in the last 10 years, the pay isn't that great in China.
Japan owns almost as much of the US foreign debt as China.
Yeah, the JET programme is the easiest way for the average person to get their foot in the door. Good pay and benefits, good support from the programme with regard to housing, taxes, health insurance and other legal crap.
My wife was a JET for a few years before she got a gig at a university.
The students get English grammar and reading in their regular schooling. They want to bring over native English speakers to teach conversational English in English, without relying much on Japanese or Chinese.
The average Eikaiwa (convo school) job will not have you diagramming sentence and lecturing on the subjunctive mood. You're paid to chat with the adults, and play silly little games with the kids.
You don't need to speak a word of the local language, but of course it will make things easier.
Yup. You'd probably only be teaching grammar and reading at the university level. That's what I do. The money (and respect) is massively better, but your speaking skills need to be good and your literacy excellent.
No, I'm an American teaching English in Thailand and I can say that Japan is becoming harder and harder to teach english in because weeaboos flooded the market. Unless you have a master's in English and more then 3 years teaching experience your gonna be hard pressed to find a teaching job unless you know somebody.
FYI, If you're a weeaboo who whats to live/work in Japan just know that nobody takes you seriously there. Japanese people find it weird that you abandoned you're country and cultural identity just because you like anime. They all make fun of you behind your back, even the kids you teach.
I fucking hate weeaboos.
How long has it been since you were teaching here? A bachelor's is still pretty much a guaranteed eikaiwa job, and a master's in *anything* - not just English - is often enough to land a university position.
I've not noticed this weaboo flood. Maybe it's a Tokyo thing.
I have never teached in Japan, I had 2 roommates that did and they basically both gave me the information I posted. I applied to like a dozen places and they all said they had no positions available, and I have a B.A in Linguistics.
Another problem I heard is that jobs are gonna be even harder to find because Japan's economy is shrinking and their population is also shrinking, people aren't having kids and schools are closing down because of lack of students.
See if the Jet program is still going, teach faggot jap school kids english, it's the easiest way.
I did it in Japan and China, Chinese girls were so much hotter than the japs.
The linguistics degree can work both for and against you.
If you're applying to an eikaiwa, they would be justifiably concerned that you'd bugger off at the first chance.
If we're talking about university positions, how did you apply? You need to check the organisation's hiring pages. If you don't know enough Japanese to apply *in* Japanese, of course they won't even consider you.
I heard it is easier to get laid in Japan though because in China they still have old school moral values, like girls get looked down upon if they are not virgins when they get married. Maybe in tier 1 cities it is better though.
Not quite, but it's more difficult, and you'll need something else with which to distinguish yourself.
I teach at the university level, and I only have a two-year diploma in software design from a community college.
I also have a kanken pre-1 certification which makes my resume really stand out.
It isn't hopeless, though.
Fuck I don't remember off the top of my head, im not in my apartment right now, when I get home I can find out their names.
I appreciate the help guys but I am no longer interested in moving to Japan as I am quite settled in Bangkok.
I don't watch anime, I've never played Pokeemans and I'm married to another foreigner, so don't chase local pussy.
I don't know what 'weeb' means to you, but you seem to be using a non-standard definition.
My family does a lot of business with the Japanese here in the US.
Basically, if you want to get a job there it will probably be through a staffing agency.
Otherwise their own people struggle to find work if they dont:
high exam scores --> top university --> keiretsu
English grammar, writing and conversation. I also do translation work.
Yes, it's a Japanese orthography certification notorious for its difficulty. I have the second-highest; most Japanese can't even pass the fourth-highest. It reeaally looks good on a foreigner's resume.
>been living in tokyo for 8 months
>dont speak a word of japanese
>working as a full time model since i got here
>free entry and drinks in clubs
>easy access to any drugs i want
>will probably be dead if i stay here much longer
just stay the fuck away from this place
I'm one of those weirdos who actually likes to study. I've always been interested in languages and linguistics in general, so it wasn't work preparing for it; it was fun. I was pretty relieved when I finally walked out of the testing room, though.
I cut my teeth on Heisig's stuff ages ago, but I also used various materials from Japanese publishers: collections of past questions, 4-character idioms, etc. I also studied up on classical Japanese as well, since it becomes important from level pre-1.
I thought the thread was 404ed. Sorry.
My mother language is Turkish, which is pretty useless. I am a business administration graduate and worked in an IT company back in my home country. Unfortunately Japanese IT companies want fluent Japanese and mine is hardly conversational.
I also lived in London for a while, i took toeic in Japan and got 950 score. I have no noticable accent and I speak fluently.
As for teaching jobs, I applied a few but i have to compete with Americans and other native speakers.
If your mother language is Turkish, I'm betting you're not white. If you're not white in Japan things can be weird.
Teaching and translation jobs come and go, there's a pretty high turnover rate, if its what you really wants you don't have a choice, stay active, keep searching and applying.
I used to read an article by a big black american guy who went to japan through the jet program. He taught in a highschool, married a jap woman, ended up getting some tv work, translation job.
Havent heard from him in a while, but really enlightening.
Well, I am white. I would post a photo but well, this is /b/. I applied few teaching jobs like I said, but i am not very good at interviews and i screwed up in demonstration lessons. Last week i had an interview in an IT company which doesn't require me to speak Japanese and i thought it went well, today they sent me an e-mail saying "unfortunately bla bla"...
Pic is to attract more people to the thread.
Also my wife is japanese and i have a spouse visa which grants me non restricted permission to work. I thought it would help, but it didnt so far.
I'm hoping to go to Japan after university to teach English for a few years just to help build up the cash to buy a house.
I'm planning on actually becoming fluent in Japanese before I go too.
Are weeaboos really flooding the job market that badly?
Thank you for your reply, I am glad to hear that. Any agency/company/whatever that you can suggest? Only one i tried was interac. (applied for an international kindergarten and they set me up an interview at IT company. I was ok with that) Also what about international kindergarten jobs? Should i aim for kids or adults?
From my personal experiences and those of my wife: no. That said, circumstances may be different in the major cities of Tokyo and Osaka.
Although having a good command of Japanese certainly helps, it is not necessary. If you are planning to come after having completed a bachelor's, do your best to come in through the JET programme. It offers the best pay and conditions for an new English teacher here.
Counter-intuitively, a good knowledge of Japanese can actually *reduce* your chances of being selected. The committee wants you to come and teach English for a few years, then return to your own country. Strong Japanese skills suggest that you are making longer-term plans.
Just something to consider before killing yourself to achieve fluency when it would probably be a better idea to apply immediately, get selected, then go for fluency within Japan, which will be far easier.
JET is the best way in.
I've known a few people who came in through Interact, but they certainly had some complaints about the way things were run. Namely, if you have any problems here, they will not be very helpful. The pay's about the same.
Be sure to check: http://www.eslcafe.com/joblist/
My wife got a pretty good gig at an eikaiwa through a listing there. You should be able to find something within a few months.
Weeaboos are very frequently found working in Japan, studying here, and applying for scholarships to come. A lot of them do come and live the dream but, I would say that it's also as possible to just have their otaku heart crushed because Pikachu won't come greet them at the airport.
I suppose that does make sense. I'll do what you suggested and try to become fluent after I get a teaching job since I'm not planning on taking up permanent residence there.
I just figured that if I was going to live somewhere for a few years it'd help to know the local language. The keys for your input though, I'll definitely look into the JET programme now.
i do, i work as a waiter. that depends if your visa will let you, becasue you can obtain visa only in one profession, however you can change it at any given moment in the town hall and in the immigration bureau
I have a spouse visa/non restricted work permission. I would work as a waiter while i study (self study) japanese, but even that requires some japanese speaking ability. Where exactly do you work? Also why sage :(
accidentally typed sage, tokyo hongou district in this moment, well if you have non restricted permission then thats awesome for you, you just have to learn japanese, its the easiest language that i have ever encountered, it shouldn't take you too much to learn it even the basics, and then everything will go easy like from mountain
Its well beyond Chernobyl as far as radiation released and is still dumping death without any possibility of stopping it.. how can you be so unaware of the facts? People may not be dropping like flies or glowing yet but there's no way you're going to tell me its safe... think long term... not only would I not visit japan I;d have to be completely out of my mind to actually consider moving there.. http://enenews.com/senior-scientist-melted-cores-damaged-containments-theyre-leaking-like-swiss-cheese-fukushima-one-nuclear-fuel-spread-paper-other-substances-flowing-ocean-making-contamination-serious-highly-radioa
and to add that, just learn hiragana and katakana, and you are almost half way there. then slowly learn kanji
thats funny, i have been learning hmm i dont even remember 6 or 7 languages (english,polish,german,italian,hungarian,swedish and something more i dont remember) The Japanese is definitely the easiest one, the way of talking writing and reading is more intuitive instead of creating long ass sentences
Are you a native English speaker? If so any tips or resources?
just go for it, hit the visa requirements, and see if you are lucky, i basicially haven't finished highschool, just (gymnasium) so to call that. however i had a bit of experiance in work on my cv and stuffs, but definitely just read about it on internet go to the embassy and ask.
i'm not, i dont remember, but i definitely use english as my primary language now.
For hiragana and katakana: Learning Japanese Hiragana and Katakana, Takagaki and Henshall, 1990
For kanji: A guide to writing Kanji and Kana Book 1 and 2
there is awesome site where you can learn japanese, at least i have learn it from there www.learn-japanese-adventure.com/
An entire website that devoted to Fukushima fear-mongering without having the balls to call itself such. You should probably post some links to whale.to and naturalnews. Maybe some Timecube stuff, too.
I thought it is hard language to learn for a english speaker. It is quite similar to turkish though. I can read and write hiragana/katakana, i know some of the grammar, but unfortunately i suck at vocabulary. pic related its my anki progress.
Also i am thinking to take JLPT but i dont know which level i should aim for.
>creating long ass sentences
What do you mean by this? Japanese is a medium-inflected language, while English is largely non-inflected. That tends to present a challenge for Anglophones. Not only that, but auxialliary verbs can chain together to form rather long, one-word sentences. Ex: ?????????. "I did not want to be forgiven." One base verb, plus four auxilliary morphemes.
I heard a few people say you could get a English as second language license, go on a tourist visa and look around for jobs. If you find one then fly over to Korea get a work visa though the company then fly back.
It does sound sketchy but there's been more than a few that have said this and mentioned ALT jobs aren't too hard to come by if you can speak English well along with some Japanese.
>If you find one then fly over to Korea get a work visa though the company then fly back.
Yeah, I've known a few people who've done that. It's also possible to upgrade from a tourist visa to a work visa, but that's a lot more trouble for your employer; they don't like to do that.
I actually applied Yokota airbase. The next day they called me and told me I couldnt apply with spouse visa and i needed permanent residence status. I also applied atsugi base and they called me for an interview - didnt get the job though.
Problem is each application took 2 months. 3-4 weeks ago i applied atsugi for another job, still waiting. Is there any way to speed things up ?
Yeah the same sources also said customs dislikes when people do it due to the stetchiness. However do you know if it would be very difficult to find a ALT job if I used this route, would I need more than a English as second lang cert?
try the lvl 3 its not that hard
and for vocabulary and stuffs, there is let's learn japanese picture dictionary, use similar stuffs it will be easier to understand with pictures and stuffs.
thats what i was telling its in reality two words glued together(you should get my idea) you dont type exactly as in english "i did now want to be forgiven." so its intuitive becasue you dont give every simple detail such as "I" "DID" and so on and on instead you just use ???(forgiven) ???????(dont want). you should get my idea. and i havent seen ?? used in a long time now
The immigration people may dislike it, but they won't hassle you unless you give them a reason to do so. Your employer probably won't care at all.
I don't see why it would be difficult under those circumstances. But your work history, personal appearance, etc. will all help determine this.
Well, ?? is just the ??? form, needed to attach the passive auxilliary ??. That's what makes Japanese more challenging for Anglophones, as English is a analytic language; root morphemes generally don't change.
?? -> ??
?? -> ?
?? -> ??
?? -> ?(?)
That's a lot of inflection for an English-speaker.
Well I don't look like a neck beard so I don't think appearance will be too much of an issue. However my work history is rather limited, only 2 jobs in fact. Will this be a big issue or will it be overlooked if everything else is in order?
I mean you probably don't know all the variables however you would have a better idea then I would.
Are either of those teaching-related? Do you have any other interesting or special skills?
Of course your personal presentation is important, but here it can make or break your chances.
well for me its easier, since i just memorized most of the main stuffs such as verbs(te/nakatta/tai-form bla bla bla) so its as simple as remembering how to multiplicate, if you will be abble to remember those plus words and vocabulary, its K.O for "i cannot speak or use japanese" it took me i dont know about half a year to remember most o those stuffs plus hiragana katakana and a little bit of kanji. "if you want, nothing is impossible"
The jobs aren't teaching related I'm only 20, but I did teach kids how to use Auto CAD when I was in a vocational Drafting class, along with showing people how to use their computer in school. That probably doesn't hold too much weight though. Also yes I heard you cannot be overdressed for anything in Japan, which is why I wouldn't take chances.
in addition as you wrote its just to remember the formula of adding stuffs to eachother, and just remembering how to create different forms, and thats the entire magic of the japanese language really, maybe its just me or i'm doing something wrong all the time. but there is only that much to that language except kanji
and one more, well in realitly they did called English the easiest language there is didn't they? so yeah, thats why it might be hard for native english speaker, however as i said remembering the forms is as easy as remembering how to multiplicate(which i have never learnt ...lol)
Also I forgot skills wise I'm moderate with computers but again that probably wont help too much. I'm also able to explain things in detail well, however it's really not anywhere on paper so it doesn't help too much either.
Don't go for JET, with the exception of one person I know they seem to hire autists and put you in the middle of fucking nowhere.
I live in Tokyo and failed JET application (which is 1000 forms and bullshit)
Also if you didn't waste your life studying Japanese I would go to Korea or China, maybe even Thailand if you are craving for some ching chong wong dong. Unless you want to make friends with Japanese people in their 30's and other foreigners.
Sorry it didn't work out for you. I've known at least twenty or so JETs over the years, and all but one were really good people, not autists at all. Of course, you can easily end up way out in the countryside, but that can be a plus depending on what kind of person you are.
Were you already in Tokyo when you applied? That may have worked against you.
Anon sir, thanks for posting. I find your thoughts extremely insightful.
Is it possible for a university dropout to find some work in the media/arts sector? I have experience in my own country.
>Is it possible for a university dropout to find some work in the media/arts sector? I have experience in my own country.
Alas, I cannot speak to this. I expect it's pretty similar to finding work in that sector in the West: difficult, and all but requiring contacts in the industry.
Cheers! Australia or Brtish perhaps sir?
You're absolutely correct. However in the context of an application popping up I wonder if they would reject you for lack of a completed degree.
In this situation, is it wiser for one to become a JET or English teacher and scout Media/art jobs or directly apply from the start with some backed up money?
haha, i know that, trust me i dont have degree i didnt finished the high school becasue i went on the "journey" and to tell you this i'm young (18years) and i have already two years of experiance in food stuffs as well as begin in health care(private buttler) and thats everything you need just experiance, in this age degree doesn't give you anything, well if you would aim for companies such as ubisoft or nintendo or whatever bigger there is, then that would be a problem not because of degree but decause you would need atleast 4+ years of experiance in graphic stuffs. So its not like they wlll cut your arms and legs off if you wouldn't make it, just give your best and try every time, as long as they will take you, and thats all
Ok, I'll throw the question out there.
I'm permanent employed so I'm not desperate for a job, I just want to try something new. I currently earn ~$85k a year so I don't want to go down to shit pay. I'm Swedish.
How is the pay in japan and what is my chances to get a good job without any super high degrees? How much does it cost to live over there? Talkin japan. Also will there be annoying ugly women clinging to me because I'm "exotic"?
Just send your resume to Westinghouse Electric Company and ask to be employed at the ?i Nuclear Power Plant. It's the safest nuclear power plant of Japan because of it's location and they need English speaking people to help in time of crisis.
Filthy hoser Canuck, actually.
If your degree is incomplete, that would probably become a strike against you. If you have no other form of complete higher education however, it would likely be best to include it anyway and imply that you're completing it via distance education. A complete lack of college/university looks pretty bad.
I'd try to get some form of employment before coming if possible, but you can certainly try to break into the media industry with a small nest egg, if you're gutsy. You could just end up spending thousands of dollars with nothing to show for it.
honestly thats huge pay for me, i have always been living at minimum 20k without any troubles. that depends on what work you want, for me as a waiter without any troubles 5 days a week and 8-10 hours i can get 20-30k depending if i want more or not. adding to that the rent depends for my apartament its i dont know in dolars let me calcualate its almost 700-800usd/month for my apartament. food and stuffs in shop as well as electronics are somewhat cheap.
and no they dont cling to the exotic people, its just a stereotype
yeah, dont even ask how many stuffs i had to do just to get to the japan, but i made it, and somehow "i'm living the dream" so yeah nothing is blocking you
and to add, the questions such why and for what, and you are just 18 they wont hire you and you are underage in japan and bla bla bla bla, and more and more. just gaaaah i wanted to punch them in the face, but patience and nerves, everything worked out somewhat ok
Haha ah a Canadian- we're practically the same. From the Outback.
I see~ yes I have an incomplete degree
I have had media employment here with about 7 years experience.
What sort of small next egg?
Thanks for reply. How's quality of life on only 20k in japan? What kind of jobs a possible to get if I don't know any japanese? Well of course I know the general konichiwa, some colours and stuff. I'm a fast learner so would probably learn to speak and write basic japanese pretty quick, though I understand kanji will be a real hard nut. What's the "good" jobs over there?
Hey there my kin. My goal is the same as yours. I studied Translation and Interpreting. My mother tongue is Turkish aswell and also learning Japanese recently. I believe there are plenty of options for us to make a living there. But as other /b/ros said. Teaching would be our best bet. How do you feel so far?
well there isn't many, you just have to learn the language even the basics, becasue you will be the next "gaijin" that i have to throw out each time form the restaurant. and the good jobs i dont know, i have been working as a waiter thats everything i need.
and hows the quality, for a small apartament 14m2 with all the media, its pretty normal i guess food and everything enough money to buy stuffs, and some extra to buy something for myself such as console or something like this, pretty "decent" still the best that i have ever lived
I've always lived in smaller cities (I'm in a prefectural capital now), so the cost of living in the larger ones can only be greater. If you're planning on trying to hustle up a job in Tokyo for a few months, I'd been thinking at least a few thousand dollars. You should probably try to find someone who actually lives in Tokyo and ask him for accurate figures.
nah thats cool, dont worry
why so, japanese women are sweet and care taking, however if you will do something wrong they will literally beat you up, pff what i'm even talking you have Japanese wife so you know how does this work
There are some translation jobs but Turkish is very rare i am afraid. Just a few short term translation or voice recording projects.
>My wife is Japanese, don't make the same mistake as me.
uh? i think its too late for that. I have been married over a year.
Once you wifey up with them the well completely drys and its all business from there. I mean, they're good with finances and take care of the kids and shit but all of the cool stuff (blowjobs, going out to eat, buying stuff for yourself) goes out the window, plus if they divorce you 100% chance shell take the kids since Jap courts always rule in women's favor.
i know, and what about it? however not every woman is the same, just becasue you are not lucky with your marriage doesn't mean everyone will have it the same, you should know what you were getting in to. however i feel pity and sorry for you situation in reality i dont but still shame
>plus if they divorce you 100% chance shell take the kids since Jap courts always rule in women's favor.
Listen to this anon right here.
Fathers have few rights here, and foreign ones have essentially none. Be forewarned of that.
in most cases fathers have almost no rights to take the kids, maybe a little bit, but usually judges and other stuffs doesn't take the facts that kids tell that they want to go with father and stuffs
Once you wifey up with them the well completely drys and its all business from there. I mean, they're good with finances and take care of the kids and shit but all of the cool stuff (blowjobs, going out to eat, buying stuff for yourself) goes out the window, plus if they divorce you 100% chance shell take the kids since Jap courts always rule in women's favor.>>567953330
This is truth, truthfully I don't regret gettin married to my wife, I say most things in jest (except the kid things) but transitioning to a life in the US has been a difficult experience for us, since she literally knows nothing about how to live (bills, taxes, no credit score) etc.
thats the funniest part, taking care of the other person, there are different kinds of people i personally dont care about sex more about having "fun" no alcochol involved just some you know funny stuffs, and of course taking care of other person even though i'm personally broken and as well bad person, i still love to calm down and see as someone is happy just becasue i helped him/her with something
Pretty late to this one and I haven't read any of the posts but I live in Japan. Currently stationed in Okinawa. From what I've seen so far most of the locals know decent enough English to figure out what you need and they're all really nice for the most part. Most non natives that I've seen here usually work at self owned shops that sell American attire and the like.
I visited Naha for a few days while I was travelling down that way. Made it as far as Iriomote-jima.
Most people were nice (as elsewhere, here) but I definitely overheard some less-than-flattering comments about local army dudes from people who thought I couldn't understand them.
Oh yeah, military gets a pretty bad rep because of things that we've done in the past. It's unfortunate but understandable. So long as you don't have a high and tight haircut you'll do just fine.
I could be waaay off here, (ex-JETs, please chime in) but I seem to recall that my wife was making around 4,000,000? per year. This was several years ago, so the pay may be better now. There are some benefits, too, I think.
Outside the major cities, the cost of living is actually quite low, as well.
My wife and I live in a huge house, one about three rooms bigger than we even want, for 80000? per month. 1Gbit internet + cell service (unlimited and not filtered or throttled in any way): 6000~7000?. Food: about 15000?/week for the two of us. Maybe another 15000? for various other utilities.
Taxes are very low; eating out is super-cheap; there's no tipping and tax is always included.
You can live pretty well on that. If your wife makes efforts to save money here and there, by cooking and such, you can live well and even put away money.
Observing basic customs helps a lot. Honestly you will need to learn japanese.
Otherwise you will end up like the non english speaking people in san diego standing outside the riteaid shouting, "work? work? $5!"
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