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>Illuminati are real. If not, some high grade freemason branch is real, their influence on the system as well. >The modern monetary system is a hoax and based on debt. This is actually true. >Terrorism is a term made up for global expansion under a false flag. >Medicine isn't only here to cure, also to destabilisize. >Famous people dying are for reasons 95% of regular people wouldn't dare to understand.
>MFW the Nephilim protocols are real documents written by many governments across the planet talking about the real Nephilim aliens
>MFW governments have both combat and diplomatic protocols should they ever return
>One page said >"We've discovered they're in a nearby star-system near Alpha Centauri, at this time we're unsure of their movements. However, we've come to the realization they have their satellites pointed in our direction. We still don't know why but at this present time we will not engage in communication until they decide to attack. Our notion of them being hostile is based on of them refusing contact via radio telescope. Also it is noted its possible that they're extinct or the planet has been abandoned. Regardless of the fact we do not know what resides in that star system. We do know their satellites are online, as stated above we're unsure of their movements."
interesting thing though. nobody seems to have figured out that 9/11 was fucking completely intentional as far as regards it's nature as a conspiracy which can not be either proven or disproven.
i mean shit. if you believe the establishment's version of events, then everyone involved in it is already fucking dead. if you believe the truther version of events, then the people that were involved are FUCKING UNTOUCHABLE.
basically, what I'm saying is, from my perspective, the smart thing to do is to just accept that it happened and the people that did it are never going to face anything remotely resembling justice.
it's time to move on bitches. let's deal with shit that we can actually have an effect on the outcome of, you feel me?
also the kennedy assassination. same dealio. shit that gets put out there to distract us from shit that we can effect. let's get smart and focus our efforts on shit that our efforts can influence.
i dunno. i'm fucking drunk as shit right now.
the world is a weird fucking place, but every one of us has literally unlimited potential. realizing our potential is the real fucking war on terror.
we are at war with the terror of understanding how fucking insanely powerful every single one of us is.
and when I say "us" I mean those of use that are actually alive and thinking. not these fucking reactionary meatbots that think of themselves as people but are really just fucking animals that happen to wear clothes and know how to talk, you dig?
it's a fucking mindfuck when you really get down to it.
maybe 1 in 20 are actually something worth considering as people. it's sad, and it's fucked up, but if you want me to believe otherwise, you meatbot niggers are gonna have to prove it by fucking thinking for yourself and not doing fucking stupid shit all of the time.
bleaaarrrrrgh so fufcking drunk fuck it. drunk as shit and still fucking more cognizant of reality. fuck you.
yeah, unless we fucking build one. oh shit you didn't fucking think about that shit did ya?
yeah i'm doing it. fucking deal with it atheist fag. a fucking god that is basically a smarter version of me.
hahahahhaa that sounds like i'm trying to threaten you but you have no idea how fucking awesome and badass i am so there's really nothing to worry about. i am non-judgemental to a terrifying degree. everyone is going to fuck heaven. accept it and enjoy it, bitch.
>>564561705 Since famous people have some qualities (this is really objective for that matter) that are able to attract a broad mass of people, higher classed people want to take use of this since it brings profit. This is also called the Hollywood Memorandum. It is obvious that every talent will equal money sooner or later. But there is a big difference between just very talented and getting filthy rich and being introduced to what's going on behind the scenes. Not sure if I can go on.
I think its on hidden wiki or something. Some anon posted all the deep web shit about certain /x/ conspiracies and that one turned out to be true. Because it had U.N signatures and key people from NASA
>wahhh hollywood was created by jews and is controlled by jews
boo fuckety hoo. jews are smart. they get power and money and shit. they should have power and money and shit, because they are fucking smart. that's how the fucking world works motherfucker. smart people get shit and control shit. you think fucking stupid people should be setting the agenda? fuck you faggot, you are probably stupid yourself.
you can't even fucking be a truly good person without being smart you dumb fuck!
>>564563835 Yes of course, but it's really a thin line between the act of creation and 'taking advantage of something existing'. The last one is even harder because these people need to be explicitly introduced to the doctrine which is intellectually very hard to understand to begin with.
>>564564337 These are like the pillars of creation if you allow me to use the metaphor. Many people think these could be simple marketing tools. It starts to become scary when you realize that they ACTUALLY are - but they backfire.
>>564565898 It's really funny and bizarelly ironic that they said it's his worst film. They might be able to understand it, but I'm not sure, most people only notice the unsettling atmosphere but not the reason it is so gloomy. To your other question: what do you think really happened?
>>564561627 if you say to just acknowledge that it happened, and say that those responsible will never from to justice, then they will continue to do it because even the people who know they did it refuse to do anything about it.
>>564566675 > To your other question: what do you think really happened?
Regarding Elisa Lam? Conditioning gone wrong. She escaped during a session, likely pumped full of drugs. These guys don't bat an eyelash when it comes to killing people though. It's just weird that she was actually found.
>>564567037 >then they will continue to do it because even the people who know they did it refuse to do anything about it
well they will continue to do it. how is this even in question in your mind?
i'm just saying that this whole thing about rubbing it in our faces is an interesting proposition but logically it doesn't make a lot of sense from a strategic perspective.
they do shit that looks like they are rubbing it in our faces, because it makes them APPEAR to be more powerful and in control than they actually are.
>even the people who know they did it refuse to do anything about it.
well yeah, but this is actually a good thing. if you are powerless and you recognize that you are powerless, the smart thing to do is to behave accordingly, but also to try, in a completely unrelated fashion, to accumulate the power for yourself that would allow you to deal with this shit.
>>564569124 There is an economic term similar to "glass human" - like completely see-through. It's not possible to change ANY rules of the game. It's the game itself that needs to be shut down. I'm not trying to be edgy, but that was originally Anonymous's spirit. But the system is already too far ahead; doctrines like mindsets of Assange etc are 30 years too late, I fear.
>>564569438 Haven't seen it yet tbh, just seen the thunbnail which looks scary already. I guess that's what happens when ordinary people try to dig too deep. Stuff like this really shows me that it's all fun and games exploring all this conspiracy material, but there's clearly a border.
>>564570819 It's the security footage from the elevator that Elisa Lam was in the night she died. It's only mildly creepy for a while, but at one pint she starts doing this really weird shit with her hands.
>>564570020 I disagree. This fucking grand chessboard shit is not factoring in the actions of the millions of legitimately intelligent, well informed niggers out there walking around.
I mean, I personally fucked up three GOP operations over the last two elections in the US that had a slim potentiality of throwing the election to the Republicans.
Yes, that sounds grandoise, but that don't make that shit any less true.
the simple fact of the matter is that the paradigm of top-down control by elites doesn't factor in the intrinsically reality obscuring factor of the fact that people don't want to give the people that signs their paychecks bad news, and thus, the heirarchical system is fucking stumbling around blind, and sooner or later is gonna pull a fuckin' humpty dumpty.
i mean, Lincoln didn't go far enough.
You can fool all of the people some of the time?
Hell no, nigger.
Some of the people can not be fuckin' ever fooled.
>>564571425 You might be damn heartwarmingly right, Anon, I do understand that a lot of Anons here are able to comprehend the complexity of our world today and are pretty smart, that's why Cicada tried to recruit here as well. But as long as not every single human being outside of the web has their third eye opened, change will be a mere thought.
>>564572301 >But as long as not every single human being outside of the web has their third eye opened, change will be a mere thought.
Nah. This shit is all about thresholds. As long as there is that last little fucking indigestible 1% screaming about the shit these fuckers are trying to pull, they can never win.
Well, in my opinion, anyways. But no matter how drunk or belligerent I am, that doesn't change the fact that I spend a fuckton of effort making sure that my opinion and reality are at the least withing fuckin' shouting distance of each other, you dig?
>>564572718 Eh I mean more along the lines of government conspiracy and the NSA. Don't like knowing that someone's monitoring me, but I guess their doing that to everyone anyway. Not to sound like I'm sitting around with tin foil on my head or anything
>>564573480 Don't orientate yourself too much on their monitoring activities, they rarely do this. The tasks include many more things with much higher priorities like global data summary and profiling.
The only one I know is genuinely true is the neo-con / tort reform one.
Bunch of republican lobbyists take money from corporations to convince the general public that tort reform was a good thing.
They paid for republican judges' campaigns, massive advertising.
It's the reason why even now people still say something like:
>"hurr durr anyone can get rich, all they have to do is spill coffee on themselves"
In reality, that old doll had a legit case and because of people like Rush Limbaugh, there's a limit to the punitive damages corporations pay, and they can appeal to have said damages lowered without a jury present (this is where the republican judges come in).
Any conspiracy theory that shows up on alex jones or any youtube video/ crackpot website, is bullshit.
Theres really only one conspiracy the central banks around the world own the media and just like running an ad they own the politicians .. people are just retards to think they are going to get ssomething free or whatever
>>564574016 Orwell's 1984 and Huxley's Brave New World alongside some of H.G.Wells's books are a must if it comes to deconstruct the present. I don't want to sound like an edgy faggot but Palahniuks (not sure about the pronunciation) Fight Club has also alot of true depictions.
>>564574308 Smart dust and hidden cameras in big citys rustle me jimmies a bit. While we're at it where do you get your news from? Honestly I watch cnn with a grain of sand and get on vice and aljazeera
>>564574961 >Palahniuks (not sure about the pronunciation) Fight Club has also alot of true depictions
yes very much so. not that I have actually gotten around to reading the fucking book, but while I am fucking loaded to gills right now, that doesn't in any way mean that while sober I am not completely capable of osmotically absorbing the metatextual and thematic implications of a writers oeuvre.
I don't think freemason or other mystic societies really control the world, even though conspiracies can be real, there's no reason they shouldn't but shitz like chemtrails and this bulshit aint real conspiracies or if they are, they're only meant to make you crazy and paranoid...
I would say that infowars acts as a sort of emotional pressure release valve to keep the bulk of questioning people in check. you go there, and Alex Jones gets you all whipped up into a frenzy with his shenanigans, and then you exhaust your standard human capacity to be outraged, and you also, on some level, feel like you fuckin' did something, by getting outraged, and really you just blew off some steam, and took some of the pressure out of the pressure cooker that if it blew up would lead to a revolution.
>>564577008 Hard to explain what the difference is. Mostly depends on the journalism. Many infos got falsified since they got treated way too subjectively. Try to compare the content of different sites and you see why. Also, don't trust anyone who's publishing any info on these topics while not being anonymously.
Look at MSNBC for example. They have been fucking working hard at looking like they are a progressive outfit, but the fact is that their owners are just fucking more of the same elite controllers. They put out Rachel Maddow raging against the conservative movement, but she never really gets deep into shit like someone like an Abby Martin or even a Cenk Uygur for that matter.
I have thought a lot about this and I do think that Alex Jones is controlled opposition, but I don't think that he is in the tank, per se. I think that he is being used to serve a purpose, but I think that this is in an unwitting fashion.
Human are artificial being placed on earth so they'll become slaves for the cats. With humanity to take care of them, they won't need to evolve and will never wipe all other lifeforms in the milky way. That's what append to our creators home world.
By the way, we've been designed with flaws in our perceptions of space and time so we'll never leave earth
The problem with most conspiracy theorists is that they believe in too,many of them. Pick one or two things you think might be fucked in our world, stay calm and logical, and people might actually listen to you. If you think you know who killed JFK, you can't also believe in Reptilians.
Also there's that whole "saying Your when you should say You" thing that implies that you are a stupid, not fucking checking what you wrote before you hit post, dipshit motherfucker.
So, yeah. Suck my balls, illuminatifag. I am fucking at one with the universe. Y'ALL NIGGERS AIN'T GOT NOTHING YOU CAN FUCKING TOUCH ME WITH. YOU RUN THE WORLD LIKE I FUCKING RUN THE NFL. AS IN, FUCKING NOT AT ALL OTHER THAN A DELUSIONAL FASHION.
THIS WORLD IS MINE, BITCH! I RUN THIS SHIT! THE ONLY REASON I'M NOT ON ALL YOUR MONEY RIGHT NOW IS BECAUSE I FUCKING PREFER BEATING OFF TO TAKING OVER THE WORLD!!!
Well that came out on r/conspiracy and it got debunked in like half an hour. there is an Alex Jones at stratfor from what we were able to surmise, but it's not the same Alex Jones, and also, I don't think that infowars Alex Jones has much in the way of web admin skills, which is a fact that came out at as part of the so called "revelation" that there was an Alex Jones working at stratfor.
>>564556870 Well... - Masons are a religious group - Catholics are a religious group - Jews are a religious group
Religion is a way of social grouping that is good because it can connect people with similar ways of thinking. Catholic church had been known to be behind several conspiracies itself. Jews are guilty of that as well.
Why can't masons be too?
Now consider the following, do you KNOW what masons believe in? Yep, you guessed it, the same New Age crap that is diluted in 90% of the conspiracy documentaries.
Operation Northwoods... Which shows that since the government had tried to launch a false flag before, then why not 9/11 too? The nsa is somthing conspiracy theorists believed for years, and was revently confirmed. Also snowden confirmed isis came from the cia just like al queda.
>>564584613 I don't know that much about Kubrick aside from his movies. He tried to depict the masonic-satanic rituals and the empowerment from spiritualistic empowerment in inner circles. He paid the price.
Well, some people are of the opinion that it is a sort of illustration of the underlying ethos of the elite, as well as an illustration of the tactics that are utilized by the elite when they are trying to get someone to join them.
Personally, I think it's a little on the paranoid side to read that much into it, but I think that this may be true to a certain extent.
But then I like to play it safe, philosophically speaking. Never ascribe to a conspiracy what can easily be explained by someone just putting their own opinions out there, I guess.
>>564585034 It is EXACTLY about this illustration, that's what even the movie title implies. In the beginning their eyes are "wide shut", seemingly knowing about everything while they're actually blinded by what's going on. In the end they opened their third eye. It's interesting that Tom Cruise in fact plays himself in this movie.
>>564583187 Another anon put it well, but basically Kubrick was showing us that there are two societies. The one we live in, and the one the secret elite live in. There is an amazing essay on it out there on the web (I'll look for it for you). The use of coloured lights, the references to rainbows... It's pretty great.
>>564585432 And I yours. It's so true though. People need to start thinking and cease being meatbots. Little old me doesn't have nearly the influence necessary to get anybody's attention. Hell, my own family is pretty open so some conspiracy but don't see it on the level I do. All the while my little sister is one of billions in a generation infatuated with the VMA's and all the stupid TV shows and it physically makes me nauseous knowing that no one gives a shit about what's really happening.
I have a question for you Anons. I mean I love depicting these theories and reading different scenarios out of it. But imagine if just a percent of the bigger theories are actually true plus the already confirmed ones like NSA, NineII etc - why the fuck is someone planning and doing this? What is the final target? What is the motivation? It can't be economic reasons and modern slavery only. Like, what is the deeper meaning? Is the devil real?
>>564586417 i don't want to offend you man, but its your responsibility to keep your little sister safe, don't let her fry her brains. Don't be prohibitive though,let her watch if she wants, but take her out of that world just doing things with her that you think are cool or creative, don't leave her to be raised by tv or a computer.
>>564586396 If you manage to find it I'll definitely read it after watching the movie. I plan on doing some digging myself. That Kubrick died after releasing it makes it even more interesting, no coincidence for sure.
>>564586686 You are correct. Let's be fair though, Kubrick may not have actually believed this stuff. He may have just been using the theories to create really cool subtext. Anyway, this essay is a great read, with lots of stills from the film: http://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesandtv/the-hidden-and-not-so-hidden-messages-in-stanley-kubriks-eyes-wide-shut-pt-i/
The final goal is elimination of 90% of the population, and the reduction of 90% of the remaining population to slave status in service of the elite, and the reorientation of global efforting towards the creation and sustaining of a permanent, technocratic oligarchy, where the slave population will be engineered using genetic technology to create a stronger, more loyal type of human who is obedient on a genetic level.
>>564586646 Conspiracy theories exist because people want to feel superior to others. Conspiracy theorists love the thrill of "knowing" something that no one else, or very few people, know. They love the idea that they are smarter and more perceptive of their surroundings than others. >tl;dr, conspiracy theorists are essentially the same as those people who brag about their IQs to anons on the internet to feel less beta.
>>564586780 Room 237 is fun, but for the life of me I wish I could remember the better version I watched on YouTube a few years ago. It wasn't as slick, but it had way more theories about The Shining and was a blast to watch.
Well, the people who made it did it in the most absolute of secrets. No one except people in the same field of physics would have believed that an atomic bomb existed or could exist until the US showed it, and even if they believed, they didn't have any reason to believe that governments were actively looking for it unless they had inside info, why? because if they are open about the bomb then the enemy can hear about it, so they obviously weren't.
So, until the bomb exploded, it was as far fetched as saying that the Army has a time traveling machine.
>>564586646 666 for it is a human number. Jesus was just a guy. Muhammad was just a guy. Bible was just a book. We are all Gods and creators. We are blind only seeing electromagnetic radiation from outer space reflecting into our eyes. It is all true. The paper money has been a scam and everybody knew it sense it was created in China and Marco Polo brought the idea over to England? It was used to keep negros working on the fields.
>>564587523 You could've stated this very opinion 30 years ago and I would've said: yes Anon, you're 100% right. But it's 2014. Somethings not right. Open your mind. Somethings is really going fucking wrong.
>>564587124 None taken. I definitely have a decent amount of influence on her. There are worse big brothers out there. I just don't know how to start reversing the propaganda that has invaded our culture without seeming like a nutjob radical even to my own family. That's part of what the powers at be have done, they've made so many fucked up things "normal" and getting back to real state of being human as a society now is such an arduous process, I don't know where to start. I wake up everyday trying to solve this very problem and I haven't got a clue where to begin. I think we might be already doomed as a whole but I'm a stubborn bastard.
It's an interesting goal, but unworkable. The problem with the people that are pushing it is that they are control freaks, and they want to decide how everyone lives their lives, but the world is too fucking complex for anything like that to be sustainable in the long term. I am a very smart motherfucker and I have no fucking clue what I should have for lunch tomorrow. These niggers want power that they don't have the capacity to use effectively, and goals that, if they are exposed and connected to them provably, will get them dragged into the street and hung from a streetlight.
That's why I do what I do. I just come up with interesting potential ideas and I seed them out there.
I think that we need, as a species, a set of common goals, and a set of ethical values that we can all agree to. The only trick is getting that shit out there in a way that people see the value of it and advocate for it themselves.
I mean, I've had a lot of luck with pushing the Guaranteed Minimum Income meme, but that one was pretty easy, because it's hard to see how obvious it's utility is for anyone with some level of intelligence.
>>564588386 The things that are going wrong aren't in the realm of conspiracies. The energy crisis isn't being caused by magical alien reptiles, it's caused because we're using too much fossil fuels, etc. Global warming is caused by rising greenhouse gases as well as natural cycles in earth. The problems today aren't caused by fairytales like secret ancient alien cults, they're caused by asshole politicians, fanatics, human mistakes, and natural phenomena.
I've had this slogan for a while, "The Illuminati made me do it."
Sometimes I mean it in jest, other times not so much, it all depends on the context of the situation. I've recently had the idea of trying to market it, not so much for profit but as a sort of Illuminati awareness slogan to start conversations or something. I just don't think it would be taken seriously enough for it to work and it would just end up another stupid t-shirt or something with no real meaning or purpose as the wrong people would merely trivialize it into a silly joke.
Filthy jews invented fiat currency and banking and still control it till this day. They have fooled "christians" in the US into thinking that they should support israel even though the jews murdered jesus and oppress the fuck out of christians in the middle east where they are out of sight.
>>564590084 Didn't see the post, need to luwk moar. Considering freemasonry to be intellectually way more demanding than religion since it needs true enlightenment and not just belief, Masonry has occult ways of expressing its doctrine.
>>564589410 You can kill a lot of people by making them dependent. What would happen if the internet goes down or some censorship ownership law gets passed.. food poisoned bio weapons, cops start starving and kicking down doors
>>564590707 >it's all the Jews fault >implying that it's even possible for an entire religion and ethnic group to work together You do know that the population of Jews is shrinking and they'll probably die out in a few centuries, right? They have nothing to gain by fucking with the world the way you /pol/ fags and conspiracy theorists claim they are. They would do themselves a lot more good by actually having kids and trying to get people to convert to their religion. If you want a religion/ethnic group to point at, point at Muslims. At least the radical ones actually have done real harm to western society, I.e. jihads and fucking with Christians and their oil supply. Hell, you could try to point your finger at the oil lords over in the middle east who control the world's oil trade. They have a fuckton more power over the economy and the world in general than the Jews.
>>564556870 9/11 had something to do with the middle-east, I'm sure, and I'm not saying necessarily that THE GOVERNMENT BLEW THE TOWERS UP, but if you don't think something stinky went down on 9/11 and think it was simply a terrorist attack by some random towelhead organization, then you're stupid.
I think maybe the US knew it was coming, but for some buerocratic or political reasons the US could do nothing about it. Or perhaps it would stimulate a stagnant economy or something. Something stinks about 9/11 but I'm not sure what. I don't think anyone else is either.
>>564592086 You are right in that saudi arabia and all the other gulf arab states should be nuked along with israel. You are wrong in that it is jews not muslims who oppress christians in the middle east. Muslims are the only reason that Christians can survive in the middle east. And before you start to talk about ISIS most muslims do not consider them muslims and want them dead. Don't believe everything you see on fox news.
>>564591367 >If there was any actual proof then it would be mainstream
Nigger, if it's mainstream knowledge, then it's probably something that they wanted you to think!
hahahaha no but seriously look at the kennedy assassination and 911. those are the two most commonly discussed conspiracy theories specifically because they were engineered to never be decided. keep shit vague, keep people talking about shit that can't be decided, keep them from talking about shit that they could actually affect.
just look at what happens when you go and post an opinion about either of these theories on any public forum. it instantly degenerates into infighting and namecalling. the exact effect they want, and the exact reason why that shit gets promoted constantly.
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