A girl and her dad died when they were hit by a plane on

http://m.ajc.com/news/news/georgia-girl-9-hit-by-plane-on-beach-dies/ngqLK/

>>559481882
Did it happen on the beach? In Venice?

>>559481882
poor plane. Is it ok? Can they fix it?

>>559481882
Venice has sand left? What

>>559481882
Plane looks okay though.

>>559482049
The plane looks ok. Thank god

>>559481882
This was preventable homicide. Pilot literally chose to hit people instead of steering into the ocean.

How fucking stupid do you have to be to get hit by a plane?

Darwinism at work.

BAN PLANES CAUSE THEY KEEP KILLING PEOPLE

>>559481882
Father was an army sergeant...
Was it a hit?

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>>559482241
The Dad was an American hero

Who the fuck doesn't notice a PLANE crashing down near them? If they got hit/died because of it, it's their fault for being hellen kellerish.

>>559482234
Pilot was a /b/tard.

>>559482234
Yeah, exactly. Maybe it was intentional then, he was trying to kill him.

ironic choice of first name

>>559482241
Please tell me again how much noise a plane makes when it's engines are off?

>>559482379
so basically your average retard.

>>559482516
Oceana dies by the Ocean

>>559482385
Not what you'd expect - it is the same with a train. By the time you hear it (if, of course, you don't see it first) it's too late.

>>559482385
They should have ducked

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>>559482334
Yes, someone hired a fucking pilot to kamikaze into the guy.

The fuck? Why didn't the pilot just honk for these people to get out of the way.

>>559482638
nigga, I hear trains all the time from my house, none have ever fallen out of the sky and hit me

>>559482517
He could have sounded his horn at the least.

>>559482385
Also, the report indicates the plane was quiet- dead engine -as it landed. Have you ever heard a glider? You never will.

>>559482179
Except for the prop strike which fucked up the entire engine. That plane is years and several hundred thousand dollars away from flying avian.

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>>559482572

>>559482857
Ha - I know what you mean. Stand in front of one. You won't hear it.

>>559482741
Why is there a bust of Don Cheadle?

>>559482741
What's so far fetched about that?
Remember that whole seal team that supposedly killed Osama bin'Laden that all died in 1 crash?

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>>559483196

>>559483196
Seal team 6 died because their blackhawk was shot down by an rpg.

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From his facebook

>>559482234
A waterlanding takes a large amount of skill, while landing on the beach takes the same amount of skill as landing on a runway.

If the pilot did a waterlanding, he would have put himself and his passengers at risk.

>>559483705

Yeah, no plane in this picture. This is a illuminaiti conspiracy.

captcha: landing

>>559483181
please be b8

>>559483915
He tried to do a soft field on wet sand. Not exactly a great decision.

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>>559482385

>hellen kellerish

Today, 9 years ago, I tied my life to my beautiful wife,Rebecca Irizarry. Wow, how fast time has passed! They say time flies when you are having fun. It is true. Thank you for being with me through thick and thin. I love you with all my heart, mi Roma. I am very happy and can't wait to see what the next 100 have in store for us. I love you, Becci. (His last Facebook post)

>>559483915
So risk the lives of children playing on the beach and accidentally kill one?

>>559483915
So he saw that little girl and landed anyway to save his own ass

>>559484347
Probably just assumed that people would see the plane ditching on a sand beach and run the fuck in the opposite direction?

>>559482517
also how slow they travel

>>559482379
looks like he was in germany. he wears a 'Schützenschnur' (German Armed Forces Badge of Marksmanship)

>>559483705
YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THE APPROACHING PLANE IN THE BACKGROUND FFS

>>559484527
When you are pitched for glide with no engine, it's pretty much impossible to uncommit to a landing.

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The pilot will have to live with it

>>559484224
Wet sand = soft field

Still better than attempting a water landing, and the guy's own fault for not getting out of the way.

they probably thought it was just a big bird... how many times did you get hit by a bird?

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>>559484625
Fucking this, like normal people.

Notice how no one else got killed?

Also, this happened today. No fatalities on MIAMI FUCKING BEACH.

>>559484839
And will undoubtedly face civil litigation from the family and their insurers that will go on for years.

by the looks of the sand, he literally sat the plane down and it stopped. The sand all around is undisturbed.

>>559485065
This was days ago. The father was killed at the scene, the little girl passed away earlier today.

>>559483915
>A waterlanding takes a large amount of skill, while landing on the beach takes the same amount of skill as landing on a runway.

It's called ditching, and it's very safe. The biggest risk is drowning, which wouldn't be much of a risk this close to shore.

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ayyyy lmao

>>559481882
>hit by a plane

Wut

>>559485206
No, the plane in the picture I posted landed today on Miami Beach, only everyone there was smart enough to move out of the fucking way.

>>559485397
My bad

>>559481882

test

>>559485214
Maybe the pilot couldn't swim

Probably was making sandwiches and people was like plane. And he's like you want your sandwiches plain? Why I have all this great stuff like pickles and cheese? And then their like "NOO PLANE!" And he's all like alright alright you don't have to bam dead

>>559485620

> This.

Book it, done.

>>559485206
Yeah the dad probably got chopped pretty good.

>>559485151
Pilot couldn't flare due to lack of airspeed. Wheels hit the wet sand, plane went nose-low and stopped just beyond point of impact. Also, the two humans most likely contributed to the braking action.

>>559485390
we gonna bubble these?

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>>559485620
He liked to eat sandwiches. A true American hero

>>559485750
Therefore making the landing safer. Pilot should be commended for using humans for added braking power.

I wonder how many Muslims he killed

>>559486182
the answer to that is always: not enough

did they think da plane was a birds?

>>559483047
Except prop strikes != destroyed engine, its probably at most minimal damage to the engine and undercarriage on a plane worth less than $50,000

>>559485750
Would impact marks not be present in the sand from the wheels digging in?

>>559485575
Let's be serious he was fully clothed, nobody want to be wet fully clothed. They're trying to victim shame the pilot !

>>559486443
pilot was black?

>>559486530
Bet he stole chicken on his way back to insurance fraud.

>>559486261
In their defense, a Piper Archer gliding doesn't make much noise. The prop spinning due to forward airflow would barely counteract wind noise at a beach. Plus the ocean and other people. If they were walking in the opposite direction, they may never have known it was coming.

Natural selection. Who doesn't notice a plane?

>>559486443
Good point. Glad that little sluts dead. Can't get my khakis wet

ITT people pretending they're pilots and A&Ps

>>559486401
That's an Archer II, with Nav, auto-pilot and GPS, most likely $125-150K

>>559482002
i think london

Also, Can anyone tell me why the engine in the police boat is still running?

>>559486743
yes i has sim and youtube

>>559484347
>>559484527
Are you guys really retarded enough to think you can perfectly see a kid from the cockpit of an aircraft?

>>559485214
lol no

Fixed gear like that hitting the water would mean an instant flip, which in turn would mean instant death by drowning unless the occupants were trained to escape from a sinking aircraft. And it certainly doesn't take a lot of water to drown. Some people drown in their own bathtubs, even.

Also, ditching is informal terminology.

>>559486838
female driver trying to park

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You are LITERALLY retarded if you travel by plane.

Pilot and everyone onboard needs to get the death penalty for this and I'm not remotely joking.

FUCK anyone who flies.

>>559487025
ah right, that makes sense then.

>>559487038
Found the kid with autism.

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I think the son did it. He looks like a Muslim

If you can't dodge a fucking plane you deserve whatever happens to your stupid face.

>>559487235
evil looking fucker

>>559487038
Found the kid with autism.

>>559487157
9/11 really had an impact on him.

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>>559485308
ayy lmao

>>559487429
He does look evil.

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>>559487038

>I'm a Europe
>Let's go to New York
>oh shit flying is the dumb
>better fire up my magic portal

No seriously, what kind of fucking logic is that, how else do you travel thousands of miles over a huge sea??

>>559487038
Found the kid with autism.

>>559486804
Its a Piper Cherokee, a 1972 Piper Cherokee to be exact. Its in the link that was posted http://m.ajc.com/news/news/georgia-girl-9-hit-by-plane-on-beach-dies/ngqLK/

>>559487038

Are you seriously that stupid?

>>559485214
>ditching
>very safe
ayy lmao

>>559487573
>>559487573
google says to kayak

I bet it's a closed casket

>>559487452
>>559487573
It's bait, you retards. That fucker has been posting that shit for days.

>>559487645
Yes, a Piper Cherokee Archer II. Look at the nose of the airframe in the photo. You can see the word "ARCHER" in giant letters.

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You are LITERALLY retarded if you travel by bus.

The driver and everyone onboard needs to get the death penalty for this and I'm not remotely joking.

FUCK anyone who rides.

Weird... I thought this was a CSI:Miami episode.

>>559487235
Robert DeNiro says that's Ben Stiller's son

>>559488043
>>559488043
YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>559488015
>implying buses in cities are retarded

>>559484880
>Killing 2 people is so much fucking better

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No more Dad for you

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>>559481882
How do you sit there and watch a plane fly up your ass? Its not even a bid plane. Were they asleep on the beach with headphones on?

>>559481882
I'm confused, why didn't they just move out of the way? Surely, even if the plane hit from behind they should have heard it, right?

>>559488202
Than killing yourself ? You'd be retarded not to value more your life than others in our society ...

>>559488101

Spending your days lazing around and watching classic films eh?

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You are LITERALLY retarded if you travel by boat.

Captain and everyone onboard needs to get the death penalty for this and I'm not remotely joking.

FUCK anyone who flies.

>>559481882
>Time flies when your having fun.

>>559488241
he will have daddy issues

I am laughing so hard at this thread, it hurts.

>>559488202
If there's one thing I hate about situations like this, it's all these Captain Hindsights coming in and declaring how things should have gone. Same thing happens when a cop shoots someone.

>herf derf he should have shot him in the legs

And bullshit like that. All failing to take into regard that the situations people are in are stressful and need to be resolved quickly. Nevermind that Captain Hindsight always has more information to act on than the person in the moment itself.

By the time you see someone is in your path, you're already committed to the landing. You can't magically veer off when you're out of power.

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At least the ugly sister died.

>>559481882
I've done this in GTA 5

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You are LITERALLY retarded if you travel by Space Shuttle.

The control center and everyone onboard needs to get the death penalty for this and I'm not remotely joking.

FUCK anyone who goes to space.

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Younger one is cuter but will be fucked up with daddy issues.

>>559488943
Roger, Challenger, go with throttle up.

>>559488907
no wonder she couldn't see da plane her glasses are hideous.

>>559489062
Haha. Move you stupid cunt

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You are LITERALLY retarded if you travel by walking.

The person walking and everyone watching needs to get the death penalty for this and I'm not remotely joking.

FUCK anyone who goes walking.

What was the 9 year old doing on an airfield?

>>559481882
how the fuck do you not get out of the way of a plane coming toward you

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>>559481882
How stupid you can be to get hit , by the small fucking plane,on a beach and dont fucking sidestep. Im glad they died and I hope they took their genes away from earth

>>559489250
her dad was coming home from Afghanistan

>>559489243
Crank dat soulja boy

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>>559489047
>Younger one is cuter but will be fucked up with daddy issues.
you always think the younger one is cuter

>>559489271
thats what i was thinking
"he didnt tell us to get out of the way so its cool"

>>559488943
I had to look into these for my education before I went full NEET, and to be fair, the way NASA handled the shuttle was completely retarded. It's a miracle the entire program lasted as long as it did.

Basically, the space shuttle never left the prototype stage, but NASA just said "fuck it" and pretended it was finished.

>>559489517
That's true. Ill be her daddy.

>>559483705
which one is the girl that died?
I hope it's not the hot one in the back...

>>559489920
Hahahaha. So that's what happened

>>559489920
ha good one

>>559481882
anyone got the video?

The mom wants everyone to pray. Thank you Jesus

>>559482379
Leave it to an American to get hit with a plane

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>>559489486

>>559487890
>implying i look at photos
Well then that first link was wrong with 1972, because only the piper archer was around in 1972, found another report that does indeed label it as an archer 2, but if its a 1970's archer 2 its still only worth $60-70,000 second hand.

>>559485865
>>559481882


>/b/

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The daddy issues have already started. Little cunt got a black boyfriend

planes dont has horns?

>>559490672
You have no clue how this plane is equipped, or TBOH on engine. You can not express any realistic or accurate opinion of value.

>>559491003
disgusting

>>559490672
>>wants to play pseudo airplane appraiser
>>can't be arsed to look at, much less, notice details on a photograph

You really are a fucking idiot, aren't you

>>559491003
Nigga u jealous cause u aint gettin none of that delssious pink pussy. Stay mad white boi

First you have to pick the skull fragments out of the prop. That's gonna be expensive

>>559491003
Absolutely shameful

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If da bitch didn't wanna get land on she can just move da hell out da way

>My first photoshop

What a stupid bitch. Glad she died before she could breed.

Darwin

>>559491013
Except theres this thing called google.

http://www.trade-a-plane.com/search?s-type=aircraft&make=piper&model=Archer+II&s-page_size=25&s-seq=2&s-lvl=2&s-page=2

well maintained planes with new tech still $50-70,000 unless you think someone is going to put executive jet instrument panels into a 1970's piper the price i have stated seems a pretty fair ball park figure.

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His Dad is dead.

At least he knows how to suck

>>559491394
Reads a news report over looking at a photo, called a fucking idiot by someone who doesn't into average price range...

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I know that this is /b/ and people getting killed is funny.

But I thought we had an understanding that little girls getting killed isn't funny...

>>559484716
You dont have to be in Germany to get one

>>559492389
Does the plane have 2 or 3 axis autopilot?
Is that a Hartzell variable pitch prop?
Does the plane have de-icing capability?

Does a plane that size have De icing

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>>559482234
Not sure if trolling or just immensely stupid

>>559493015
Yes, it can. Although from the looks of the leading edge of the wing in the photo, this one does not. You'd actually see a membrane on the leading edge. By slightly inflating, it knocks the ice off the leading edge of the wing without significantly disrupting lift.

>>559492925
EVERY plane that flies in Florida in late July really needs de-icing capabilities.

>>559494196
Planes fly into a variety of different climates and encounter extreme temperatures at altitude which, under certain humidity and convective situations, can include icing, even in summer, and even in Florida.

>>559481882

We should ban planes because they kill people

>>559494859
It should sound just as stupid when you replace the word "planes" with the word "guns."

Plans don't kill people. Stupid pilots do.

>>559482021
You can always fix them.

Source : I fix them

>>559494859
They literally need to be banned.

I'm pretty sure this pilot is going to get his ass sued off for wrongful death. He was worried about his plane and now he's going to have to sell it to pay for legal fees.

Maybe don't land on the fucking beach

>>559483047
Prop obviously wasn't turning at point of impact so the prop strike shouldn't have done much damage. But if the engine had stopped and it wasn't just the usual lack of fuel, it would have to be inspected nonetheless, which can get pretty expensive. Wing and undercarriage should be easy to repair, i'd guess a five-digit cost in total. Still pretty expensive and could be more than that thing is worth, but that depends on how it is equipped.

>>559492925
Is this some dumb attempt to ask questions to win an internet argument that isn't actually an argument? its just some guy going hur dur you cant say average price ranges for something.

How am i supposed to know what autopilot it has built in?

http://hartzellprop.com/wp-content/uploads/Hartzell-Propeller-Piper-Full-Catalog.pdf

Considering they only seem to make 3 bladed props for cherokees "at this current time" i would say no

THIS IS NOT A JOKE I WAS JUST SENT THESE PICTURES FROM SOMEONE FROM THIS PLACE AND I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING SO. AFTER READING OVER WHAT ALL OF YOUR HAVE WROTE I HAVE DECIDED TO TURN THIS INTO THE POLICE! THIS IS NOT FUNNY! WE ARE GRIEVING OVER THE LOSS OF OUR FAMILY! I CANNOT BELIEVE SOME OF THE RESPONSES I HAVE READ HERE! YOU'RE MONSTERS! I HAVE NOTIFIED THE POLICE OF THIS LINK AND AGAINST THEIR ADVICE HAVE COME HERE TO SAY TO PLEASE HAVE SOME COMMON DECENCY AND RESPECT FOR MY FAMILY WHO DIED IN A TRAGIC ACCIDENT! YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO LAUGH AT OUR PAIN! I WAS HOPING THIS PAGE WAS A JOKE OR A MEMORIAL BUT TODAY I LEARNED HOW CRUEL HUMANITY TRULY IS. YOU'RE BASTARDS AND I HOPE YOU GET WHATS COMING TO YOU. IN JESUS NAME I PRAY FOR YOU. ALL OF YOU. YOU NEED JESUS IN YOUR LIVES. I SINCERELY HOPE YOU FIND PEACE AND STOP MOCKING MY FAMILY AND ANYONE ELSE WHO LOST A LOVED ONE. GOOD BYE. THE POLICE WERE INFORMED. GOD BLESS YOU.

>>559496412
You didn't express an opinion on an "average price range." You alleged that the plane was worth "less than $50K." But the fact is, you have no real idea what you are talking about. Planes are not cars. There is no "Blue Book." Each plane's FMV is affected by equipment, maintenance records, time since last overhaul, general condition, and cleanliness of title and airworthiness certificate.

>>559491013
>tips fedora

>>559485750
And here i was thinking it just scared them to death

>>559497085
I expressed that original price range on a 1972 cherokee which second hand is usually under $50,000, i then changed my price range for an archer II to an average second hand price of $50-70,000 for a 1970's version even later models aren't much more.

Considering i was making a comment to a poster that thought the repair costs would go into hundreds of thousands, you seem to be so far stuck up on my opinions that you sound like a fucking ball to be around.

average price range exist for a reason, because on average that thing will go for that much, do you really think that all the factors that contribute to an aircrafts resale value is really going to push an old 1970s piper past $100,000.

The second hand link that i put before had well maintained aircraft, book keeping, condition etc still $50/70,000

>still cant into average price range, but wants to be a big man with his big boy pants

>>559498303
Hardly a fedora tip. He didn't even say anything that euphoric.

>>559486743
This right here. Cant even discuss a retarded plane crash without people rping faa investigators

>>559481882
COLE JONATHAN H
2460 BUCKSKIN DR
ENGLEWOOD, FL
34223

Straight off the FAA. Rek him /b/

>>559500631
Last time he filed a flight plan was February. I am guessing this guy did not fly a lot.

>>559481882
I live a mile away from here. How about you OP?

>>559500965
You don't have to file a flight plan in these little planes. Only if you want to fly IFR, which you don't have to do on a day like that.

>>559500631
let's have our justice for recklessly killing that little girl before she ever got to get fucked!

>>559501237
Yes, I know. But a flight from SC to FL would have most likely been IFR in February.

Hey check this out:

http://www.thekathrynreport.com/2014/07/piper-pa-28-181-archer-ii-n8826c.html?showComment=1406568681084

>>559488406

Flying boats?

Shit way to die. Chances of getting run over by a plane must be pretty fucking slim.

>>559486743
am A&P for real haha, but I work tonight so I can't correct all your wrong asses.

>shitty night shift
>working in the fucking rain

^ here's how to recognize a real A&P

>>559484527

do you have any idea how hard it would be to see beach walkers while attempting a crash landing? even in a plane as small as a piper cherokee, youre going to be moving at a decent clip and by the time youre close enough to see the people, its going to be hard to divide your time between instruments, controls, and keeping your eyes up .

i compare this to someone driving, looses their brakes, and makes a decision to go onto a sidewalk as opposed to hitting a telephone pole. sad, but damn, life is hazardous.

this guy did what he could and sadly it wasnt good enough. no need for criminal charges. the family will certainly get some insurance money. leave well enough alone.

>>559486917
You can actually. The pilot had the full realisation that he was going to land on that kid, a second from the act. He will live with that until he dies. Good for him, he will regret not going on the water for that one

inb4 hurr durr drowning. If he went a bit one the side, he would have landed in 12 inches of water, 5 seconds away from being rescued.

>>559501402
Every little girl deserves to get some dick before they die

>>559502605
Pilot will not face criminal charges. But he and the plane's owner (Jonathan Cole) will be civilly litigated into a blue fog for the next 10 years.

>>559500631

Don't know why we're pissed at the pilot. If I was given the same choice between me likely dying in a water landing or me potentially hurting/killing someone else in a ground landing I'd mow those fuckers down every time.

>>559488378
Not without the engines running. Take the time to realise that a 747 could crash on your house right now, and you would never hear it before it start destroying your house.

Let that sink in, because that's what will happen when every airliners let the chink ''fix'' those planes for 1$ per hours.

Source : underpaid A&P

>>559502971

thats what insurance is for. he'll be fine.

also to anyone saying the dude should have tried to turn for the ocean last second are retarded. im not going to get into it because you wont listen but youre all retarded, for real.

>>559491009
Small ones like this don't. The only reason to have a horn is to alert others that you are powering the hyd sys or starting the apu/engines.

Small mosquitoes like this don'T have horn.

>>559503019
>>559500631

This was not the pilot. This is the agent of record for the plane with the FAA. Could be a partnership ownership situation.

>>559503753
Read the pilot's account at the link I posted. He did not have enough airspeed to complete a turn. He would have stalled and probably rolled, and most certainly would have been killed or seriously injured, as well as totally destroying the aircraft.

>>559504106

oh i know you dont have to tell me. im fully aware of the situation. that was directed to the tards who think this guy did this shit on purpose.

>>559484839
But he will live, nonetheless.

>>559485151
You can tell by the pebbles.

>>559504896

same shit happens every day with motor vehicles. thats why they call it an accident, fucknut. because the dude was not TRYING to kill anyone.

dont you fucking dare say 'he did anyway. the guy didnt get to live' this conversation is over.