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>>556711846 I merely wanted to make this thread interesting. Fact is, I am kinda bored and in the mood to answer a couple of questions, because I think I'm able to give a lot of insight - especially on questions whose answer can be derived by logical deduction and intuition.
>>556713491 From quickly reading the wiki articales the categorical imperative seems more useful, because its application can be used to achieve things by justifying taking certain actions in the first place.
However, "useful ethics" is ill defined in my opinion.
Also I don't think that one necessarily excludes the other, because these concepts rely on an individual's perception and intention of his own actions.
>>556714574 In general, how do you notice you're better or worse than somebody or anybody else in the first place? You compare. I noticed from talking to other people. Intelligence is by no means 1 dimensional, one who takes great pleasure in sailing might be equally intelligent as one who takes great pleasure in solving mathematical problems, for in my opinion intelligence is acceptance and appreciation for what can be found in the interior and exterior world.
While I do study physics (and compared to others fairly easy at that), I don't think my strengths lie in the mathematical areas, I think my strengths lie in observation, perception and most of all self reflection. When I talk to others there's always a point where that person can no longer follow through or keep up with how far reaching my self observation is. I think I'm a genius in that regard.
>>556715130 No, not even by the 4chan buzzword definition of autistic can I be considered as such. I have too much self control to be either of these things.
>>556715173 One of my biggest mannerisms is to "constantly over-analyize everything" as some of my friends say. Also lifestyle choices is kinda vague. I try to better myself and gain as much self control as I can. I work out, meditate, study. I take cold showers and eat healthy, I waige and try to do what I consider right.
>>556715173 I've been called a genius before a few times, but I am a moron.
I could tell you what it is like being a moron. You walk around all day thinking how stupid everyone is compared to you. You sit and ponder all day about dumb shit like if everyone hates Jersey Shore why is still on the air? Being a moron is something special, I get to breeze though life without a real care in the world because someone smarter than me made it easier for dumb people to live happy lives. I would hate to be a genius, then I wouldn't be able to preform mental gymnastics to convince myself that I am happy and that I am not a failure.
>>556715094 Well, that was unexpected. I was waiting for some sort of IQ bogus. Since you seem like an interesting person, I'll just go ahead and ask you something that's been on my mind for some time. Do you think that one can "predict" things in the future unconsciously? Like, process lots of possibilities and chances and simply realize the most probable outcome without taking notice of the long line of thought that would have lead him to this conclusion? it happens to me quite oftenly and I end up seeming like a clairvoyant to my friends and peers.
>>556715626 >constantly over-analyize everything That's strange. I always find that I don't worry or overthink anything. I just have this feeling that by the end, everything will just turn out ok. The only thing I worry about is making decisions, fearing that I may be missing out on something. But I try to take as many opportunities as possible. A quote from my middle school math teacher, "In the end, everything will be alright and if everything isn't alright, then it's not the end."
>>556716075 Yes, I do think that's possible and maybe even learnable. This is how it works for me: First of all, there are feelings and thoughts. Without long derivation of why I think this is true, feelings = thoughts. To be more precise, through introspection I have noticed that feelings are the very first thoughts we were able to think as living beings, which gives them a much stronger "feeling" than ordinary, more complex and abstract thoughts do. I think instead of making long trains of thought, it is possible to develop a feeling for what it would be like to ask yourself a very precise question and answer it very precisely as well, but without ever doing either of these things. This is how I actually do it, I sort of wrap up the whole trains of thought in a feeling that I can sort of "lean into" and experience how it would be to have that feeling for much longer - that is actually think through the thoughts.
It allows me to come to conclusions very quickly. At least that's how it works for me or what I have noticed might be what is going on for me sometimes.
>>556716464 >The only thing I worry about is making decisions, fearing that I may be missing out on something. Before I even read this I already had the impression you were acting out of fear/insecurity. You rely on incomplete knowledge to compelte tasks, because you fear the complete set of information might not be to your liking. The reason that it often turns out okay is that we actually worry too much, though. If you reflect on all the times you have worred about something, how often did you worry even though there was no real need to?
>>556716871 I study, no job but I've already worked for a year
>>556716971 I don't think that I am the best person to answer your question. To myself, I think that I am a laid back guy with little to worry about. I think I would need an outside opinion because I am prone to ignore some of my personal features. For example, recently I learned that people around think that I have a big ego, which I have never even thought if before.
>>556716971 let me give you some insight buddy, stilted speech does not mean you're a genius it means you're either autistic or you actually believe that the way you write makes you a genius in conclusion get the fuck outta here you faggot
>>556717058 Well some people say that a statement is either true or false. Not both or not neither. That would contradict the law of non-contradiction and the law of the excluded middle, bivalence, etc.
So given this, when I say you are going to die tomorrow for being a faggot. My statement is either true or false.
If it's false then that means the universe is determined. If it's true then, all the more, the universe is still determined.
>>556717782 Well, I don't feel any pressure to do something. Anyone can go out and help find the cure for cancer, or find the next replacement for silicone, or help stop global warming. But I wouldn't be happy doing those things. I like playing the guitar. Some may say I am wasting my talents, but I am happy. For now.
>>556717374 First you need to tell me what you consider success. Real success imo is learning to live with oneself. I don't think there's anything you need exactly.
>>556717462 I don't see what makes it a concept exactly, but of course, you should follow your dreams even if it souns naive. Especially in the 1st world (and you have internet) there is no reason not to.
>>556717560 >Are you happy ? Is it so important to be constantly happy? I think it's counter productive, because what makes you happy (and also what makes you sad) is the contrast. You can't have one with the other and I try to have equal amounts of both, so I'm good.
Yes, but my intelligence is still in cocoon mode, but I am convinced that I will achieve great things.
When I'm with my friends I'm always right, when I'm alone I'm always wrong.
>>556717729 For spiritual and physical/health reasons. First I think hot water washes my body, while cold water washes my soul (I shower hot then cold). Taking a cold shower is always an overcoming, because it's uncomfortable. But I would think lowly of myself if I couldn't do it, because what am I going to achieve if I can't even take a cold shower? If I don't take one I might as well go back to bed and not do anything the whole day. Also I think they're healthy, help with circulation and may even raise testosterone levels.
>>556718218 >You can't have one with the other and I try to have equal amounts of both, so I'm good yes you can its called cognitive
stop fooling yourself buddy you're no genius you're just an above average joe like the majority of this site and you've convinced yourself you're a genius because you think you've figured out some shit
>>556718639 Well, the average person would not come to a place filled with porn, gore, and general faggotry. Posters here are not average. Whether or not they are exceptionally stupid or intelligent is up for debate.
Regarding Hegel's views on knowing God through attaining an elevated sense of self-consciousness, do you think it would be safe to say that what he meant by "God" is really just that God = complete self-determination?
And if that is the case, do you think that's what Nietzsche was describing as the superman - a man who has transcended his nature through self-determination?
>>556715094 I also study physics without any effort. I also think my strengths are in critical thinking. I'm pretty much the same as you, except for the fact my intelligence is slightly above average at best.
>>556718941 >If the whole universe (and earth) was at the same temperature could you ever notice or find out what temperature it is? No. This is how I know you dont know shit about physics. Fuck off dude
>>556719682 Indeterminism isnt about the instruments, its property of the universe. Like time dilatation on special relativity, its not the clock, its te spacetime itself. Technology will not erase the impossibility that indetermination presents in quantum mechanics
Also, according to some, the belief that modern life has evolved by chance is as likely as a tornado going through a auto wrecking yard and a Cadillac coming out. And creationism is pretty far-fetched as well. How do you think we got here?
Alright then, I'm considered by others a genius yet I find my intelligence very average, I have 0 self-esteem, I can't keep friends because of some paranoid thought that they all actually hate me and are faking it for some reason which makes me completely antisocial and reluctant to em and I'm constantly depressed and sad, I lost hope in everything there's nothing that keeps me going yet I don't want to an hero not yet, the girl I love probably hates me, how do I turn my life around?
>>556720091 >Indeterminism isnt about the instruments, its property of the universe. Not really, since the "properties of the universe" are something that we must measure first, and since we are imperfect creatures using imperfect methods, you cannot be sure that things at the quantum level are random.
>>556719292 It's not really about 'self-determination', it's more about a re-evaluation of all values. It's about the balance of Apollonian / Dionysian forces within your being, so that you achieve the full realisation or extension of your Will.
It really depends whether you're looking at Hegel from a metaphysical or a non-metaphysical viewpoint also.
>>556720406 Im not saying that these proprieties cant be measured. Im saying that the indetermination principle lays in the universe itself, not on our instruments. You cannot build a better, more precise instrument to simply take indeterminism out of the equation. This is all inside the quantum paradigm. If you want to conceive classic, relativistic and quantic physics, you just have to wait some time, they are still on it
>>556716971 You are autistic. Please leave. You just churned out a huge pile of nonsense in the form of easily understood buzzwords and expected congratulations. Weird thing is that I'm not even sure if this is bait or simply pure, unadulterated spergism. Regardless, nothing you said is of any philosophical worth, despite what you might think, and you should reevaluate your life. >mfw I swallowed this bait
>>556720815 >You cannot build a better, more precise instrument to simply take indeterminism out of the equation Of course you could. If we'd be able to measure things perfectly/near perfectly and by taking enough factors into account, we could be able to predict the outcome of things (which side the dice lands on, and so on), essentially giving us precognition.
>>556711543 Aight OP, as someone who lost his teens to the sort of bullshit you're going through right now, dealing with these guys who're attacking you and calling you pretencious, etc, just remember that people's actions reflect their inner selves .
If they're attacking you and calling you names, it's probably just that you've unintentionally hurt their precious ego.
I recommend you read "the power of now" and "how to win friends and influence people". I realize now that it speeds up the process of coming out of the shell when you retreat into it.
I'm pretty confident you'll be comfortable in reading and accepting the kind of talk to "the power of now", seeing as you're into meditation and feeling for thinking.
>>556720265 You're asking me to prove my intelligence online? I.. What? What would throwing Medicine and Physics degrees in your face prove?
Truth of the matter is, if you think you're a genius, you're probably not a genius. Try spending more quality time with people to realize that. If nothing else it'll stop you from using intelligence to define yourself.
Friend's mom's a software engineer. His mom's coworker said this riddle. 10 people are to be assigned a random digit (0-9). There can be repeats, and some digits might not be represented Each person will be locked in a room devoid of communication from the other 9 participants. In the room they have access to what digits the other 9 participants have. Each participant does not know their own digit. All participants get to discuss a plan beforehand. What plan did they decide on to guarantee at least one participant will always guess their own digit correctly?
>>556720398 If others perception is truly correct then yours is truly wrong, this means you have shitty self perception and most probably this causes a train of other inefficiencies such as low self esteem.
I think you should take some time off from everything and learn to accept and live with yourself. You need to self reflect and see where you stamd, then you will know where others stand you will realize they (most probably) don't hate you. I believe true change and motivation only comes from within. Most certainly bring dedication and maybe look into meditation.
>>556720441 Yes, I think there could be a god. No, I don't think there is a god.
>>556720513 My spiritualy comes from constantly doubting and reevaluting myself, that is, being real with myself. In my opinion, it is useful to hold practical concepts and worldviews, not practical in the way that they are immediately applicable to anything or testable in any way, but practical in the sense that they help me cope with myself. Such as, I think there is some sort of metaphysical universe where lie all the ideas and mathemaitcal identities predetermined and bound to be found by any self reflective species. Also I think there needs to be a balance between mind, body and spirit, which is why I work out, study and meditate.
>>556720845 The fact that there cannot be presented a logic based counter argument to what you just said is proof that what you say does not contain a point. So why are you talking?
>>556721036 You are dodging the question, also >probably
>>556720943 That's true inside classic deterministic paradigm. If you take that out of it it doesnt work. And you are thinking about chaotic sistem, which mathematicians in my uni love, but I wont pretend to understand because I dont.
>>556721226 It's funny that you mention that balance of mind, body, and spirit - my research seems to show that that balance was the original trinity which manifested in various forms throughout religion.
What do you think can be done to better the human condition? What do you think of the current geopolitical and economic situations the world finds itself in?
>>556720610 easy. nucleosynthesis = nucleons create atoms = big bang = atomic nuclei that formed hydrogen/helium aka formations of stars that we see today
basically, the universe expands and contracts throughout billions of years and the big bang has happened more than once. it's just that it takes so long that we'll never ever get to notice in the entire span of the human race.
>>556721185 I've been working on a solution for the past 3 days. I don't know if there is a solution. Difficult riddles are hard to come by, and I hope you have as much fun as I do trying to crack this nut.
>>556720398 First, you need to recognize that you're a weak coward. At least for now. Your lack of self-esteem and paranoia are due to your general lack of confidence. This leads me to believe you haven't done much with your life - at least not much profound.
There are three areas in which a man must be proficient if he is to be generally respected: fitness, social skills, and financial skills.
1. Commit to parkour. Study proper condition techniques and do your plyometric exercises. Learn about parkour and find a place to take yourself to new heights.
2. Think before you speak, but talk to people a lot. Talk about what they want to talk about with the goal of making them like you. Read Robert Greene's The 48 Laws of Power and The Art of Seduction to inspire yourself.
Learn about finance, business, and law on the internet. Read Warren Buffet's Books. Analyze rich people you know of - study their ways. Learn how to make money work for you.
4. Avoid non-productive activities - video games, porn, and drugs should be avoided. These things can serve as useful substitutes for the lazy and unsuccessful, but you don't want to be that. Also, remember to eat well; learn about nutrition.
For moral support, check out Davis M. J. Aurini on YouTube.
Take my advice: you need to figure out what it is you want out of life by experiencing more life, then you need to create an extremely challenging life goal and avoid anything that would deviate from it. You are your only hope.
>>556721550 Your post has to be bait because if you yourself (as is implied) have discovered and comprehended the secrets of esoteric knowledge you would: >not hold this over another's head >not be the one to bring it up needlessly ("if you know, keep silent") >understand that everyone is on their own path and that recognizing, understanding, and utilizing the laws one finds in his environment ultimately leads to esoteric truths since everything points to those truths
It truly sucks to be thought of by others as intelligent and capable, and at the same time being unmotivated and lazy. Honestly, I don't admire others possessing intelligence--people expect more from you while not considering the possibility that you may be a goddamn idiot in spite of your accomplishments or intellect; none of your negative qualities seem to be taken into account.
>>556721226 >proof that what you say does not contain a point You must be baiting me here. It did contain a point. If you're such a genius you will have read my post and understood it. What I'm saying is that nothing you said is at all relevant. Just because you can't think of a logical counter to my point doesn't mean the point is non-existent. All it means is that I'm right and you're wrong. Furthermore, there are some things in this world (few and far between, perhaps) that are irrefutable. That you are a sperglord is definitely one of them.
Like, according to Boolean algebra, you can get infinite DIFFEERNT formulations for the conditions which lead to the same outcome / results.
So , which one is the ultimate truth? When they're all EQUIVALENT in the domain you're analizing?
At best, and this is a point I'm conceding to you (with a further catch), at best you can say that they're not the same for a different and BROADER domain. Which is to say, that the moment you add more information that you're going to interpret and try to validate your models with, One of the two (or neither) will have diverging results given the same input.
So the catch now is, if all the information you have to validate your theory with is in fact a limited piece of the infinite and unmeasurable truth, how can you say that something isn't "truth" when all formulations work as an approximation?
You don't deny the truth to those formulations. You accept their validity in their pertinent domain.
>>556721349 This is true and the first real counter argument against my person. To this I have to say that I do not yet consider myself a complete person and I will try to defeat that in me as I grow older.
>>556721230 I'm high and on holidays, I want to answer questions in a more or less relaxed fashion right now if you've ever been high you know how much I want to do this right now,
mean vealue theorem, boundedness, w/e
>>556721530 >can be done to better the human condition? better in what sense? make them superior, that is to Übermenschen? make them more wealthy?
Also, as a physicist I hardly give two shits about politics.
>>556721565 A truly just society would pick one (the best, that is fittest as in fittest for the job) person to rule them all. As a member of this truly just society he is also truly just and thus can be trusted.
One is just if he can live with and in front of himself.
>>556722228 Human progress splits (in my opinion) up in progress in the physical, mental and spiritual area.
This is, get healther, smarter/wiser, wiser/happier.
As I said I don't really care about politics, but to further stimulate this process we should stop helping the weaklinges and weed them out, we have not surpassed nature yet in what we know about evolving. At least most of us haven't and I think it is wrong for the species to help those with shit genes - those with cancer, those with weak minds, those with ugly and weak bodies.
We should not conserve and respect but extinct and devour the weaker races.
>>556722395 The one does not live in front of himself, but next to himself.
>>556722565 Of course. You have to get good grades in order to go to college so you can start a high-paying career. I know it may not seem like it now - you're only ten - but when you're old you'll depend on the savings you've made throughout your life.
>>556722905 I'm INTP, and I just sit in my room all day reading books and browsing 4chan, and going to college. In proportion to how much of a chance I have of getting a gf, I think it is the same with other INTPs.
Typical first year science major. You're not special and you're clearly not a genius so stop deluding yourself and more importantly, why can't people like you just be smart? Why do you have to be a genius? If every person described them self as a genius, the word would be meaningless.
If you're above intelligence that's great, good for you but that doesn't mean you're a genius or that anyone should treat you differently. In my 5 years of studying Electrical Engineering I learnt that unlike in high school, no one gives a shit if you're the smartest kid in the room it's how much work you do and the quality of your work. Some of the smartest people I have ever met have completely wasted their lives because they think because they're smart they can just coast through life. I myself was guilty of this but learnt very quickly that I had to work hard to achieve what I wanted.
My point is if you're smart don't expect to be able to rely on your intelligence if you want to actually make something of yourself
>>556711543 Ok, here's a question from another anon who can be considered a genius, going by >150IQ SD15:
Do you think people with high IQs are generally more prone to mental illness such as severe depression and anxiety, brooding and melancholia, etc? If so, what do you think is the primary cause of such a correlation?
Coming from a non-genius, I would assume that the primary cause has something to do with not having a social life and going on message boards with something to prove and getting utterly stomped and ridiculed for being autistic.
>>556723095 I'm INTP and I'm married. Most INTP have problems understanding emotions because emotions aren't logical sometimes but if you at least try, you can understand. Try it this way: think of what YOU would feel if you were in that same situation. Doing this helped me out a lot and I've been giving good advice since I was 12.
Oh god, I really should not have said that. Fuck it. I'm going to bed anyways. Goodnight, everyone.
>>556723252 Indeed, but the morality of the slave favors that which grants most to all, as these types cannot create qualitative distinctions between people. He views himself as equal to all, thus certainly he will not faithfully observe your statement since it grants most to the socially apt - who are clearly perceived as being in some way better than others.
>>556722927 No, I did not say it was dependent, re-read. He made the proposition of the existence as such.
>>556722971 The purpose for me is to kick back and do w/e The purpose of you is to ask somebody a question who you can expect insight from
>>556722989 Is it really impossible to be infallible as a society from the society's point of view? Because yes, this is what I assumed.
>>556723290 I really don't have the sample size to make such a statement. But imo, suffering from severe depression is a result of actually lacking the intelligence to comprehend one's own intelligence.
>>556723448 Yes, I think it is important, because there are basic needs such as safety. Ofc it is possible, but it is not healthy.
>>556723570 I don't play video games anymore, but I liked Starcraft, Morrowind, and Baldur's Gate, maybe some others, too
>>556723361 I could have a girlfriend but the personality test I took in my junior high school counselors office says I'm too introvert so I don't care. Has nothing to do with the fact that I am unattractive or that I can't hold a conversation with a girl for anything longer than my McDonalds order. I'm too intellectually superior to pursue physical human intimacy; I would NEVER stoop so low as the rest of you ape-men who think only with their phallus.
>>556719831 >I am not sure I could beat you as I never play, but I am convinced I could beat you easily if I had the same amount of practice as you. >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
>>556723531 Is it easy for you to relate to people with 80 IQs? Why would it be any easier for a genius to relate to 'normals'?
Geniuses need to get over a whole slew of issues, some internal and some external, to simply be able to relate to normal people. Until you've mastered it, you come off as an arrogant asshole to most people. It's lonely, and being lonely is usually depressing.
Wait, before I go. I noticed someone asked what the genius thought about government, to which he replied he didn't give a shit and gave a half-assed answer.
I doubt anyone cares but I believe that the world governments will collapse and will resort to a form of anarchy sometime soon - within our life times. It will be chaos but not nearly as bad as you think, since our world is already very nearly there as it is, believe it or not. After this happens, people will band together to naturally form tight-knit communities like the old days and gangs will spring up ever more. We will then be met with another chance at a primitive government such as monarchy but likely under another title. People don't like the names monarchy or communism, so I'm sure those names will be struck from the list and something else will be used instead but I'm sure the world will function for a long time under something similar.
The only thing that really matters is treating each other with respect. We don't have to like each other, we just have to live with each other. As long as we can do that, everything will be ok. Or the world will end. If that happens, then it won't matter.
Question: >What is the proper size, scope, and function of the government in a truly "just" society. >Please feel free to explore the term "just", before you answer.
Answer: >A truly just society would pick one (the best, that is fittest as in fittest for the job) person to rule them all. As a member of this truly just society he is also truly just and thus can be trusted.
>One is just if he can live with and in front of himself.
Clarification >For clarity sake, What you just said was that a truly just society is dependent on the existence of a single, purely just, person, who will rule in the form autocracy? Or have I misunderstood this?
>So then, what is the Size, Scope, and Function of this type of government?
>No, I did not say it was dependent, re-read. He made the proposition of the existence as such.
And you feel okay with this performance as a "genius"
The task is simple:
What is the proper size, scope, and function of a truly just government?
If you need to explore the idea of "just", as you have already seem to have done in a fairly clumsy manner, then do so.
Bear with me, I am not a genius like you. Break it down for me in to parts and then summarize your thesis.
What is the proper size, scope, and function of a truly just government?
>>556723290 And since he couldn't answer this one.. (fuck I really need to go to bed) you already know the answer. Yes. Everyone that is smart is depressed and everyone that is dumb is happy. Or at least, they are inclined to be.
The reason why is because smart people understand the stress of life and meander on small problems that need fixing. The stupid people don't really give a flying fuck and don't let anything bother them. If nothing bothers you, you tend to be happy.
>>556724087 I have never seen someone balls deep even in the ugliest of females with just a look of discontent and boredom; or even just making out with a semi-attractive female I have never seen a guy that looks like he just wants to go back out and end it all. You are obviously kissless virgin. No other explanation possible.
Once you've mastered it, it still entails not saying a lot of what you're thinking and talking about things you think are boring. Yes, everyone deals with this. Geniuses deal with it more.
When you're a kid, you don't know how to evaluate social situations yet, you just know that other kids are slower, don't like to read, adults don't like you, etc. It's hard to turn out well adjusted without extra adjusting.
>>556724045 You can make the choice to fuck women and/or men, but I don't you can make the choice to what you feel actually attracted to.
>>556724172 The answer is that I do not care. I'm sorry. Also there are far too many ill defined words in your question, I'm not sure what you mean and I hardly care.
>>556724202 Yes. Ignorance is fake bliss, if you know you're ignorant, because then your perception of yourself and your surroundings does not agree with the way you live or act. True ignorance is fake bliss, because then your perception of yourself and your surrounds is not in agreement with the actual and factual world.
Either way there is always a discrepancy.
>>556724349 21, Europe Every form of communication is manipulation and yes.
Do you believe that meaning is derived through the empirical verification of analytic classifications, or would you say that meaning is intrinsic to synthetic a priorisms?
What are your thoughts on noumenal reality? Is the classification useful? Can it be transcended?
Do you think a categorical imperative is possible?
If you answered yes and no to the last questions, do you believe there is a way to escape the radical individualist subjectivism of post-modernist philosophy?
If so, do you believe questions of morality succumb to error theory or expressivism?
Do you believe that the species-being of man is a) the product of the interaction of the sum of all social relationships with preordained needs b) an essence that precedes your existence c) a dumb generality with no content d)a set of common categories and a priori concepts that allow for intersubjective understanding in an inherently subjective phenomenal world. e) some of the above.
Finally, what is god? a)The projection of our species-being into an ideal b) the first cause c) the pantheist everything d) a triangle with three angles e) something else.
>>556724592 If you're worth a single fuck you should be able to meet and associate with other at least half-fuck-worthy people. Interested in philosophy? Go find some students - at least one should be worth a fuck. Math? Biology? Seek out those who share your interests. Join clubs. Fucking socially participate in the shit you enjoy.
>>556718218 >I think it's counter productive, because what makes you happy (and also what makes you sad) is the contrast. You can't have one with the other and I try to have equal amounts of both, so I'm good. Reading your posts in this thread, you may be a genius but you are very naive. It's alright, you're only 21, you're practically still a kid. You'll get over it.
I would also like to point out that this is a pretty standard question brought up in most 1st year political philosophy courses.
Your inability to articulate even the most simple response outside of some vague allusion to an autocratic Machiavelli society followed by a simple "I dont care", is pretty impressive for a genius endowed with the gifts of logical deduction and intuition.
>>556725424 and this is why communicating with normals is hard. They just say blatantly and obviously un-true things because they either haven't thought about it thoroughly or arrived at a false conclusion.
and then... what? Try to explain a basic fact? Or just carry on and pretend that you didn't just vomit on your shoes?
>>556711543 Firstly what you think of yourself doesn't mean shit, its up to other people to call you a genious
Trying to sound existential and saying you think you're a genius in certain ways and that other people are in others blah blah blah does not smart. Anyone with half a brain realizes this
Using the term "one" doesn't make you sound intelligent, it makes you sound like a dickhead
And last, don't try use the fact that you study physics to justify you being a genius, like some elitist asshole. Anyone can study a science if they want to. I bet half the reason chose to study physics was you thought it would make you seem smart
I myself study a science and I fucking hate people like you in my field who think they're better than everyone.
I couldn't bare reading past the first quarter of this thread, I'm sure some people have raised similar points
>>556724872 >Do you believe that meaning is derived through the empirical verification of analytic classifications, or would you say that meaning is intrinsic to synthetic a priorisms?
Let's not discuss this as if those two options are mutually exclusive. It seems obvious at least to me that one who seeks knowledge should value both empirical analysis and reflection upon their apparent a priori convictions as tools for discovery. That said, I think the desire to learn - a quite necessary quality of the philosopher, can be easily ascertained from metaphysical and/or phenomenological inquiry, especially inward.
>>556725632 Meh, he was referring to the utopians like saint-simon and fourrier.
His framework doesn't really allow for anything other than some form of extreme communism. I mean if your remove the state, money, competition, private property, what are you left with? Actually in all honesty I don't think it allows for any coherent positive framework. I don't see why stirner wouldn't reject occupancy-and-use along with everything else if it didn't serve the ego.
>>556711543 Op, I know you probably answered this but, you aren't as smart as you think. At least I think this way because someone will always better then you at something. How do you fell more superior then someone else? You aren't anymore "genius" then me.
>>556714314 You're 21, you can't be a genius even if you were nobody would really give a flying fuck. Being a genius doesn't mean being smart, it means just that you are able to do something better than someone in which case most of the people who we think are smarter than us are just not lazy and try harder.
Anyone want to talk to a real genius? I graduated with my PhD in biomechanical systems engineering at 22 and have a $500,000 grant for research into nanotech involving enhanced production of water in mitochondria to reduce the water intake to very little/zero for athletes.
>>556724872 First off, I have not read any philosophy at all
1) Meaning is intrinsic to synthetic a priorisms, which is a sort of expectation to what is something going to be like. However, I think that meaning has to he changed once it does not agree with the empirical verification of analytical classifications, if these classifications can be derived formally
2) Explain what noumenal reality is and what it means exactly
4) Did not happen
5) If so: not so
6) I am not doing your homework, fuck off
>>556725247 Violence is only justified if that person shows lack of insight, for then he commits a crime against a rule of the metaphysical world for which you are allowed to separate him from his body, if you will.
>>556725615 I don't know anything about it, some of these questions are tedious as fuck, provide some shared knowledge
>>556725956 >How do you fell more superior then someone else? You imagine what it is like to be dumber and notice it is inferior, then you imagine others are dumber.
>>556725128 Interesting. So your school wasn't full of other children who you could socialize with? Or were they all just too different from you?
It's curious to me why you'd rather settle for nothing than something. For instance, you should have had some non-intellectual hobbies; why didn't you at least go and try to find people to share those experiences with. Even if you can't appreciate others intellectually, why can't you appreciate them from a place of warmth and humanity?
Maybe you can't connect with others because you are boring, immature, and insecure.
>>556726118 >First off, I have not read any philosophy at all Then stop commenting on it you ignoramus. Who here do you think wants to hear about you talk about something you know about?
>I don't know anything about it, some of these questions are tedious as fuck They are only tedious because you are ignorant and want words defined when they already have pretty clear definitions. Why dont you go research it yourself you lazy moron.
>>556726170 1) I never claimed it applied to me or labelled myself a genius. I'm not 2) I've always had friends, and I'm much better at socializing now. I played basketball and soccer in school, and played music. I didn't say I couldn't socialize, just that I found it somewhat difficult and relatively unfulfilling.
>>556726118 >Violence is only justified if that person shows lack of insight, for then he commits a crime against a rule of the metaphysical world for which you are allowed to separate him from his body, if you will.
OP, if you're still around, I think I am a lot smarter than the average person, not in all ways but certainly in the lateral thinking aspect, but by far my best intelligence if you can call it that, is that I can easily read people very well, tell whether they're lying, see hidden intentions etc etc, I do it without trying, not looking for signs but just sort of reading them all together and I was wondering if others are the same
there is a card game called cheat/bullshit and I am so ridiculously good at it it's not even funny, whenever I play I notice people's tells straight away and I just know if they're lying about it, it's good for poker and things as well but I don't like poker as a game and I don't gamble at all
>>556726118 >Violence is only justified if that person shows lack of insight, for then he commits a crime against a rule of the metaphysical world for which you are allowed to separate him from his body, if you will.
What would be such an example of a lack of insight? Also, where does your understanding of the metaphysical come from if you have not read any philosophy?
Also, do you maintain a regular sleep cycle and how important is it to you?
>Overcoming the post-modern condition requires a re-evaluation of all values.
Nietzsche is a post-modernist. Nietzschean egoism is exactly the radical individualist subjectivism I'm talking about. That's how he demolished nihilism. The overman doesn't get out of post-modernity, he embraces it. Otherwise you can not transvaluate all values, you must necessarilly conform to some or others which is neither very egoist, nor very life-affirming.
>What about l'existence précède l'essence?
I put that under a)
>Havent you heard, we are transitioning towards the End of Ideology.
>>556726118 1) You are a critical rationalist. Congratulations. Popper will be a condescending dick towards you before giving you your degree.
2) Noumenal reality is the thing-in-itself as it exists, and not the image of the thing that we register through our sense-perception and rational processing. It's not the mental image of the object that we can know but the object itself.
>>556726169 I know stirner was an egoist anarchist. The thing is that his framework is only consistent with either mutualism or communism, and I think mutualism requires the egoists to unite under more conditions than the latter.
>>556727447 well, this is a spoiler but [spoiler]no, portals are logically impossible, even more so if you allow moving portals (relative to each other) because it allows two different frames of reference, each completly valid and invalidating the other.[/spoiler]
>Nietzschean egoism You know nothing. Zarathustra foretold the collapsing sea of nihilism and the death of god, all preludes to the 'post modern' condition.
>That's how he demolished nihilism He didnt demolish it, he demolished ultimate values with a tuning hammer.
Nihilism is just a concept, it is what rushes in once you collapse ultimate values.
>he embraces it The overman transcend post-modernity. The re-evaluation of all values means you go beyond the current zeitgeist.
Btw: the post-modern "period" exists *within* the modern period. It's not a time reference like 'modern' is, it's a concept.
Post-modern is not after modern, it is within it.
>you must necessarilly conform to some or others which is neither very egoist, nor very life-affirming. Like how Zarathustra came down from the mountains to the marketplace? No that wont do. Where do you think he went after the marketplace?
Trans-valuation has nothing to do with 'conforming' or 'egoism' or whatever you call it. It's beyond that.
>>556727181 I dont speak/read german, even though one should if you want to touch german philosophers. My apologies.
>>556727576 Karl Popper is probably the most famous philosopher of science, he conciliated hume's damning critique of induction with the scientific method and created a demarcation criterion for science / non-science. He also took part in the full frontal assault against logical positivism, which is the belief that all meaning is derived from empirical verification, so everything that can't be empirically verified is literally meaningless. Ethics, aesthetic judgement etc are all gibberish and feelz. Unfortunately the logical positivist had some issues, like the fact that the verification criterion of meaning is metaphysical, thus can't be verified, thus it is according to itself meaningless gibberish, but they were still kicking while everyone from the frankfurt school to popper to quine were passing it around in a massive epistemological gang-rape.
>>556727997 You can't escape the fact that psychological and ethical egoism are themselves frameworks. The rejection of ideas as existing above the ego to be served, is a framework.
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