Best guitarists thread.
Remember /b/ros playing fast does not always mean good.
Separately Nick and Albert from the strokes are alright but together they are God Tier
those reading comprehension skills
driving force behind an amazing progressive metal band
I spend a lot of time researching music and these guys are in my eyes the top of the line
Best guitar players are some indie basement players who do nothing but jerk off guitar all day.
For a long time i considered Hendrix the best guitarist.
Then when i took fake acid i saw Jimmy Page doing dazed in confused live from the Zeppelin movie and it blew my god damn mind.
Maybe Jimmy Page isn't as technically good as say Hendrix or Clapton but i think he has a better feel for what sounds good.
"People say it's the guitarrists and not the guitar... Bulshit, it's the guitar".
Dave Mustaine about Buckethead:
''...But then you see some guy like Buckethead… Buckethead is probably twice as good a guitar player as me and Slash combined, and can stand having fried chicken rubbed up against his face all night for a couple of hours.''
You're legitimately retarded.
Also, the fact that you're throwing out names like Hendrix, Page and Clapton just tells people you don't actually listen to any guitar music besides what your dad gave you and what you hear on the radio.
Have a nice day.
the 2nd law and the resistance were pretty crap compared to their first 3. black holes was good, but had some pretty atrocious lyrics like the later two albums also had.
I was just playing some live Stevie Ray this morning at work. Live at the El Mocambo 1983. His version of Voodoo Child at that show was the best of all the various live recordings, IMO.
obviously he is
but I also like alexi wildchild laiho
the 2nd law wasn't my piece of cake either. it had it's moments but overall not my taste. but you're right, the first few where godly and also resistance had many great pieces.
but as a bass player, chris wolstenholme should not be forgotten
OP here to tell you John Frusciante is in fact the correct answer to the question. Which question you ask? All questions.
This guy is my fucking hero
It's about fucking time!
This thread needs some Satch
That's because Eric Clapton is slop. Sorry if that flares up your autism but face the facts. And we're not talking cream years Clapton.
You're the autistic for disliking someone because they're old or popular or obviously good you fucking dipshit.
I love a lot of people mentioned in this thread, but you cant say someone like jack white is anywhere near as good as jimmy hendrix. Good guitarists ARE rare these days, i like dreamy synth pop as much as the next guy but it doesnt enshrine the guitarist in the same way a classic blues act does.
This is coming from someone who doesnt care for hendrix or like blues, but i can't deny how how they make guitars sing, Fucking douchebag.
Too bad Buckethead wen't crazy after his mom died. Dudes released 56 albums in two years.
Also a shame this song will never be released or played again.
Technical skill, Highly musical, better than anyone alive. Hendrix is always #1
thanks for proving everything i said
You're thinking of the art of song writing. This is a thread about good guitarists. The only way to measure if someone is good at an instrument is by the difficulty of what they are able to play.
I have professional concert guitarist and violinists very close to me. They both agree that speed is only to impress. Speed means muscle memory, meaning lots of practice on one thing.
Imo versatility and technicality over speed any day.
Actually not, if you can play very fast you can be skilled, but if you can't create a piece that has a special sound to it, you are not very good as an artist. That's why almost no legends of the guitar did very fast music, they may not be fast, but they were creative.
I agree, but the other guy didnt say that wasn't the case! Playing fast and clean does show a reasonably good level of technical ability and makes you a good guitarist. BUT being a good guitarist does not mean you're a good musician. You can be the worlds fastest player and have reached the absolute pinnacle of technical playing, but if your music sounds like shit, who cares?
Ray Toro. He really loves his instrument and never cared about having the best guitars or being a rockstar
I completely agree with you, but you don't understand what I am saying.
You are talking about being a good song writer, which is not relevant to someone's skill at an instrument.
>disliking someone because they're old or popular or obviously good
Nice assumption. The point of my post was that you don't seem to know anything about playing guitar or any guitarists that aren't household names due to their popularity among people your dad's age. You're just a parrot.
Sorry, can't hear you over all your inherent inferiority.
Frank Zappa's Rat Tomago. Anyone curious should listen to this. It's like heaven smashing into hell and both of them crashing into the Earth.
>unique death vocals with massive range
>beautiful, expressive singing voice
>excellent guitar player
Some people are just born to be musicians, man.
I love Jack white.. closest dude to Robert plant as far as how he sounds, which is amazing. The guy is one of the best musicians of all time.. not just as a guitarist.
Good god yes,
Gyat Damn YOU ARE CORRECT!
They're all fucking great!
He's everything that is good.
Too many drugs.
What is it with you and dads? I like hendrix and Page because i'm deeply impressed when i see them play.
Why dont you have the courage to like what you like instead of avoiding popular names because you think you'll look uninformed? Are you deeply insecure anon? Are you projecting your insecurities on me because i like Hendrix and Page and you want to look special and informed because in reality your personality is pretty boring? Are you ok?
Somewhat. But the songwriting and melody should overwhelm it. Let's compare two great Progressive bands Tool and Dream Theater
Dream Theater has amazing technical ability for each individual instrument. Each player (from Petrucci to Portnoy) each showcase their own ability to play fast, technically, and very random (scale wise, out of the ordinary notes and drum patterns etc.)
Tool has an amazing technical ability as a whole. Contributed with polyrhythms and rhythmic technicality as a whole. Adam Jones himself has a simplistic guitar style, nowhere near on par to Petrucci. The bass also follows suit to the simplistic style of Jones, but Danny Carey compensates for extremely complex drums. Overall there is a complex songwriting theme, but not an individual complex style.
Which band would you take to listen to for hours on end? Personally, I would pick Tool for the overall songwriting ability of the band. DT are astounding technical players and musicians, but they try to incorporate too much of their technicality into their songs.
Bet none of you faggots don't even know who this is.
Robert plant is a rip off of janice joplin.
Painful to say, because i love the guy, but Joplin is on another level and it's pretty clear she was a big influence. Listen to her live.
Fuck all them niggers and hippies.....JUNIOR FUCKING BROWN!
Just to name a few.
Not a god-tier guitarist but a Titan-tier songwriter. HE WROTE COLORED SANDS ON PIANO! HE WROTE FUCKING COLORED SANDS ON PIANO!
petrucci = god
You guys are all looking in the wrong place. Every single one of you. If we really want to talk about the BEST guitarist ever, then we need to talk about Andres Segovia. He is, for all intents and purposes, the greatest guitarist to have ever lived.
>What is it with you and dads?
You're on 4chan and you haven't heard the term "dad rock" yet? Maybe you just need to lurk more.
>Why dont you have the courage to like what you like instead of avoiding popular names because you think you'll look uninformed?
You're impressed with them because you're uninformed. I am not uninformed which is why I'm not impressed. It's not rocket science, kid.
>all that armchair psychology
Letting charlatans like yourself pretend their opinions are worth consideration just allows stupidity to breed. So, no, it's a problem you have. Not me projecting.
Not the best technically but god damn it he plays with passion, which is pretty rare these days. I love listening to his work
just found this on youtube...
Also a great death metaller.
Any of you guys got any advice for a beginner?
Well I say beginner I've been playing 5 months I know 18 songs already and I practice 4 hours a day. Am I doing it right? I have a list of songs I have to get done by the end of summer and the last song on the list is Holy Wars by Megadeth, do you guys think I can pull it off? I'll be attempting it 9 weeks from now, I practice down picking all the time. So for example if I'm watching a youtube video or anime or something I'll be practicing at a steady tempo. Also have any of you tried out Rocksmith I've taken up the 60 day challenge on that too and I'm getting regular lessons from a guitar teacher.
If we want to talk about speed, then I bring to the table Paco De Lucia.
>thinking any of these alternative rock fags could hold a candle to paco.
>implying anyone in this thread is even worthy of basking in his glory
Prove to me he isn't the fastest
lol, your reply only makes your insecurity even more obvious.
>charlatans like yourself pretend their opinions are worth consideration just allows stupidity to breed
haha, read that again and tell me you dont sound like a fat fedora who no one wants to hang out with because he autistic enough to think everyone else is stupid. Do you also love to argue about religion?
You dont even know anything about guitar do you?
appearently not, can´t you read, uneducated pleb
Please stop. Listen to CAB, then go back to talkin about your shitty metal bands. If it ain't jazz fusion it's not the best. No matter how good you think your metal band musicians are, they won't be as good as someone who has Dennis chambers as their drummer
I think he might know more than you do, unfortunately he's just slightly buttmad.
The fact that you're arguing "greatest of all time while having a limited experience of other great artists is what he is upset about.
>explain how it's not insecurity
>lol see how insecure he is even though he just explained how that's not the case!
>haha, read that again and tell me you dont sound like a fat fedora who no one wants to hang out with because he autistic enough to think everyone else is stupid
I'm sorry if other people not dumbing down what they have to say to the point where a mouth-breather like yourself won't have to go google the "big words" makes you feel uncomfortable.
Yeah. You're done. Better luck next time.
>If it ain't jazz fusion it's not the best
And I thought Death Metal elitists were bad. I like jazz, but don't be a faggot.
Shitty guitar player. Saw them live and he was sloppy as fuck even playing his own songs. How did this assclown even graduate from berklee?
Overrated as fuck. Wont even play death metal anymore. Mediocre lead guitar. Can't sing death metal vocals anymore because he does it wrong and destroys his voice. Used to be a huge Opeth fan until almost the entire steady lineup left and Mikael decided to go full retard with boring ass prog (coming from a fan of prog rock/metal)
/b/ makes me sad because there is no Yngwie in the 'best guitarist' thread. What the fuck is wrong with you guys? I see some really talented, even god-tier guitarists here, so why is there no Yngwie? Have you forgotten the face of your father?
probably not the best, but the best dressed
Try none. You might get jazz cats coming out with metal albums, but not the other way around. I could play circles around John petrucci. He's a talentless hag. Dream theatre sucks balls. Get over it. Nothing anyone of them do is original or tasty or creative.
When all you listen to is classical geniuses and jazz virtuosos, metal becomes a joke. Metal was always a joke.
Muhammed Suicmez: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ3vFMjfxYc
It's fucking HENDRIX. flat out. If you're going to pick a dude that actually used his talent to the fullest, it's that nigger. We can all say Gilmour, Frusciante, Page.. whatever.. but Jimi CHANGED the whole thing and god damn if you listen to those isolated guitar tracks. it's just the sexiest, funkiest shit ever.
if i had to pick a no.2 it'd probably be just a mash between Page, Gilmour, Clapton etc.. maybe even frusciante solely because of under the bridge and how fun that shit is to play.
>I think he might know more than you do
Why, because he keeps saying he does?
It's not know how much either of us know about guitar or music in general. But do you really think someone who sounds like this >>554335360 knows really good music or can offer an impartial opinion on it?
That's why he had to leave Bloodbath and had to take Opeth in another direction, right? Because his technique is superior?
His vocals SOUND good, but they've gone and destroyed his voice. I've spoken with a couple vocal coaches and a few vocalist friends about it and we all seem to agree.
He left Bloodbath to work on Opeth shit. Opeth was formed 8 years prior to Bloodbath. He's on two out of three Bloodbath albums. THE FIRST AND THE THIRD.
He stopped growling because he didn't like the sound anymore. He wanted to move in a different musical direction. Have you listened to Heritage or the new single from Pale Communion? He sings like a fucking angel. This would leave one to believe his VOICE WASN'T DESTROYED.
Don't take my caps as anger, just as bold points.
I know Frank Zappa has already been posted more than once, but hey, one more ain't gonna hurt anybody.
Holy shit the nitpicking.
We're not talking about his vocals. But his cleans are amazing and (imo) I like to hear them more than the growls, even dating back to BWP and Deliverance. But switching between the growls and cleans are still amazing.
Mediocre leads? How? He isn't playing fast, I know, but he can incorporate an insane amount of sounds and feel into his lead, including the acoustic. More of a proficient riff-writer and rhythm player, but his leads are more than mediocre.
Music is art. Like a great painting, it needs to show mastery of all areas. I'm not gonna upload anything for you guys to all talk shit about. I could be buckethead and upload myself 8 finger tapping and you would all say it sucks.
I never got into metal. My favorite metal albums are buckethead tony MacAlpine and that's about it, both guitarists being jazz masters.
You mean go harmonic minor up and down then sweep the diminished triad a little bit? Jason Becker on the other hand would make my ass red, but John patrucci? Come on man, try harder.
Too much Metal not enough Jazz... John McLaughlin anyone?
>I've spoken with a couple vocal coaches and a few vocalist friends about it and we all seem to agree
Oh, you talked to your friends?
I think your friends and those "vocal coaches" are retards. And so are you.
qq more dude, I loved the shit out Opeth and they were my favorite band and main inspiration for a solid half of my music career. I own almost all of their albums, I know Still Life from cover to cover on 2 instruments. I spent thousands of dollars trying to nail their guitar tones. I've seen them in concert SIX times. I've met Peter and Martin Lopez, I've met Mikael walking down the street in Portland, OR when literally nobody else recognized him.
I have a right to my opinion, which is pretty well founded.
Great band but Mikael is horribly overrated as a vocalist and is really a mediocre lead guitar player. He writes good music, especially his acoustic stuff, but he's not a 'god tier' guitarist nor is he even close to god tier on vocals.
Another god-tier guitarist, one of the best I've ever seen live, nailed the shit out of every solo he played.
>Oh the irony.
Pretty sure he was referring to the fact it's plural & only listing Jimi would be singular.
He doesn't play any combinations of notes that I haven't heard before. He spend so long building up chops to nt have a creative brain.
Compare him to buckethead. Buckethead can shred just as quickly, and on top of that, he can play so many different unique techniques that it makes every one else look like a clown. He also plays in kick ass bands, like his project with Tony Williams, or all his jazz fusion project. Bucketead can improv a tasty jam and then lay down some sweep tapping and blow everyone's mind. He's unbelievable creative and writes in every genre possible. Including dub step bluegrass pop classical horror movies funk jazz metal fusion everything man. Patteuci is predictable as holy hell.
Hey buddy, you sounded great out there, but I have a question, you do know that there are many many other scales than simply major pent atomic and major melodic. Here, I'll show you
What about me guise?
God dammit I meant pentatonic, fucking iPad auto-corretctfag here
>He doesn't play any combinations of notes I haven't heard before
I think you just went full retard. Would you like a prize? The rest of your posts are now proven invalid. I don't even have to say why.
That sounded like dog shit. You really thin that was a beautiful creative unique never been thought of before piece of art? You've gotta be kidding me. Listen to cab, or hermann Szobel, or even chick corea.
Opinion respected. At least you said his songwriting ability was astounding. I don't really agree on the mediocre playing part, but whatever. Vocals aren't something I really worry about when listening to music, so opinions are scattered.
Jari is amazing. Time II soon pls.
Come on niggers, Gary Moore is a better guitarist than all these fuckers combined. And he's dead.
So you're telling me that you only listen to guys that play unique combinations of notes that have never been combined before? Pardon my redundancy.
You're going to use that argument then go on to talk about how Buckethead can play any genre. This entails the use of many chords, notes, scales, and chord structures that have been used over and over. I mean, I really don't understand what you were even trying to say there or how it is in any way shape or form a valid point.
but this the only guy who deserves "the best" mark
all the others ITT are fucking amazing guitar technicians but without playing with the feelz ....that's why i hate motherfuckin yngwie malmsteen
Me dicking around over some jazz chords, all written on the spot, first take, only 8 years of self taught practice. In 8 more years, when I would have been playing for as long as John Patrucci, man I can't wait. There's nothing John can do that I can't.
Trailblazer, FELT the music. This Talent while dealing with heroin. BOOM