ITT: We post our definition of ART
lel what is this faggot talking about
this is my example of art - not my definition
Vojvodina reporting in
Favourite painting of all time. Auguste Renoir - Le Moulin de la Galette
reminds me of this argue
>not modern warfare 2
Hell fucking nah, mw2 is what started the shitfall of the cod series.
Have a thing for Day of the Dead themed stuff
Here's the greatest masterpiece of all time.
And yes, there's more where that came from.
Right, kinda bored. Leave you with a shiggydiggy face.
Have that picture as my background, Day of the Dead shit is just cool.
ikr, same about the background btw.
Agreed, Sadly I misspelled his name /:
here is another from him
my personal favorite album from Baroness
something like this in tattoo form, i would die happy
I've always wanted one of these but never had the money or the space : (
can't leave out alphonse mucha
since art is a subjective matter and everyone got his own definition. but a little discussion and dialogue about it never killed nobody
would like to see more controversal art here.
This thread tickles the fuck out of my art boner.
This is why I love art.
It is vast as the minds who can grasp it.
probably walking a fine line between some weeaboo garbage but i love this guy too
I'll be that dick, who posts his own work
I like his work, even if I don't fully understand it.
Objectivity and tolerance aside, OP, I think your taste is pretty awful if you actually think that is good art.
I'd go so far as to say that your pic is literally the embodiment of art's worst possible standards.
>even Basquiat himself did plenty better
this is one of my favorites
Have some Caravaggio. It's my favorite of his.
This thread needs more Dali
Okay, okay, we get it, you dont like anime, now fuck off summer.
>didnt have the space
hardcore rape videos for me... jesus fucking christ i love hardcore rape.. or real rape, i think how the women suffer and how you see the guy put so much rage into fucking her is art in the purest of forms.
I've always wondered what those look like from a different angle.
Actually, I got good grades until I dropped out because I was sick of waistcoats and berets and pretending that anyone can be an artist if they really like the idea that they are one.
Good art takes time, skill and a clear concept. It conveys a message unambiguously, because it is clear and concise visual language.
It doesn't have to be representational, but I agree with Tolstoy that an artwork is only truly "good art" when there is a tangible delivery of emotion from the artist to the audience. Pic related, for example.
Bad art is jumbled and messy, unskilled, clearly hurried, and is the visual equivalent of word salad. In the particular case of OP's pic, it is literally word salad.
The only emotion I ever pick up from Basquiat is a kind of schizoid, frightened bewilderment.
Art is something that by being exposed to it helps me focus or reshape my thoughts, endulge or accept another ones, that gives me a new perspective, makes me realize something, helps me get an idea of times past, clears my head or occupies it. Art to me can be anything, and quite often, art that does not meet my usual standarts of beauty or concept makes me realize more that something I think is beautiful or interesting right away. Art is food for soul and brain at the same time, for eyes or ears. Art can make you realize what you were about, what you are about, the concept of life or people, ages long before you.
But most importantly, art is binary, there is the piece of art itself, and it is basically meaningless to you, what it is and means is inheretly different from what it does to you.
The latter is the impact and relevance of art to me.
So yeah, that must sound crazy pretentious, but I really believe this profoundly.
My tumblr if you feel inclined to view what I think is art. http://kasopay.tumblr.com/
The expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power:
the art of the Renaissance
great art is concerned with moral imperfections
she studied art in Paris
I never said it wasn't art.
I just said it was the embodiment of bad art. There's a big difference.
Also, I explicitly informed him that objectivity was going out the window - I'm not trying to change his opinion, just expressing my own.
To me, art can be more than just a painting or a picture.
We had this on our wall at home when I was a kid and I always loved it. Now that I'm grown up I like Schiele even better
Elmgreen and Dragset is definetly among my favorite artists
>a bunch of wannabe hipsters compare their respective tastes and dicks.
Fuck off to /ic/ or even better: Tumblr. The lot of you.
dont make fun of my love for artgerm.
Beksinski was brilliant. took the angst and autism so far that it went all the way around and somehow became appealing.
God-damn if more people going to art school were more like you, maybe the modern world of art wouldn't be the stupid mess of government sponsered heroin addicts selling signed blank canvases for millions to idiots that it is today. Art has to have meaning or be pretty, most modern art does neither.
The Akira manga, 10 years of hard work, pure art to me. Every page is pure gold
It´s probably the fact that today, enjoying art is almost synonymous with being a beta fedora faggot, sadly. But what the hell, doesn´t really bother me that much. Usually the haters are gamers, which is arguably a worse kind of escapism if you ain´t making money of it.
Considering its a VW we can say it's an art piece
Fuck you, It's pretty, and both captures and relays a scene and it's emotions. It's art.
I bet you are the kind of person who pretends the like the works of andy warhol aren't you?
For the sake of argument, I'll respond.
Firstly, this is /b/. People come here for entertainment purposes. There are better places to discuss art, music, literature, you name it.
Secondly, I haven't read one (yeah, not ONE) relevant opinion in this thread. This is all about "I like this" "I like that better" complemented with images pulled out of the arse of the internet. Additionally, many people seem to have difficulties to distinguish art from graphic design, illustration and other forms of postmodern bullshit.
Thirdly, art, like music or literature, is completely irrelvant these days. Nobody cares for quality or content. Categories that used to be applied to art have no meaning in the 21st century. In other words: art is meaningless and so is this thread.
I guess you got a point there. Gaming is 100% escapism, which does not mean no art whatsoever exists in video games, but thats a debate I would hate to start.
However, if you take a crash dive in the creative community of a major city you will realize the percentage of beta faggots is rather low.
On the internet, eh, different story, hard to say.
I guess you'd prefer it if we all started posting shemale porn, or maybe if we turned this into a dragonslayer thread?
Perhaps we could play the hundredth game of /b/ros since yesterday, or maybe you'd like to see some gfur?
It's not like anybody asked you to look at the stuff we're posting, but it might not do you any harm to at least TRY to experience something other than cancer and degenerate porn.
I think he refers to the Ikea mass produced paintings, which suck out the life of art as an individual expression of emotion, sold as decorative pieces, in large quantities. It appeals to the average joe based on aesthetics, without any deeper thought into the meaning of said mass produced paintings, which gives the whole scene a very postmodern feel, and as such the scene in Ikea with the paintings and people buying them is art in it´s own way. Good job Ikea.
Thats what post modernism is, the vanishing of categories. I guess thinking about the culture industry and how it warped the meaning and function of art can be depressing, but it makes sense to adapt art to our changing needs.
Old masterpieces and categories or concepts of art will always exists as judge and foundation of what future art may produce.
But I would be interested, care to elaborate why you think music and literature are irrelevant?
I would argue the opposite.
I couldn't have put it better myself, man. It's a real shame, but what can we do?
Just take comfort in knowing that when a truly breathtaking work comes along, all the scummy pretenders get flushed with shame and envy - in fact that's probably why they end up on smack in the first place, trying to escape the knowledge that they chose a career that calls for talent when they never had any.
That really depends on which anime you are talking about. It´s like with music, Justin Bieber is not art, he´s a product. Likewise anime like Naruto is not art, it´s a shitty cartoon.
However I would argue that an anime like Serial Experiments Lain, is a work of art, it meets the qualifications, It has meaning and substance, is visually appealing, very well executed and will have you thinking in a mind boggled state for a long time afterwards.
the only pretentious tosspot is you
art history class flashbacks
pre-raphs.. waterhouse is mah nignog
willy blake noice
hipster pathetic, not even the original and the drum/tambourine doesn't even look like one.
good choice, i prefer Newell over his offspring
Exactly this. You summed it up perfectly.
These paintings would be nice in my kitchen. Or in the meeting room of my company.
"average joe based on aesthetics" is becoming the new definition of art judging by 1/3 to 1/2 of the pics of this post.
Art, just like music and literature, pretended to enrich our existence by giving us moral, emotional and cognitive support. They provided values and orientation. Come the 20th century mankind realised that this entire concept is a scam. We're bags full of blood and shit and it all doesn't matter. Actually buying into the illusion of art (music, literature) having any metaphysical value has been going on for centuries, pretty much like the cultural predominance of religions, but that doesn't work anymoe.
Don't get me wrong, I earn my living as an author, but that is precisely the reason why I became such a cultural nihilist. You are creative, sell you shit and move on to the next thing. It's demand and supply. Everything else is make believe.
I'm not preaching, to each their own. But threads like these are waste of bandwidth, that's all I'm saying.
>my opinion is that you people are pretentious tosspots
So? Better to be a pretentious tosspot who knows what the fuck he's talking about than an obnoxious tool with a chip on his shoulder.
People like you are the guts of the social organism - enough neurons to believe you're in charge, but all the grumbling and shit-spewing in the world won't make you a brain.
Mmm i can see that point as valid, but i disagree with it. To me art has two pinnacle functions, which are aesthetics, and emotion/meaning. A work that is pretty, but devoid of feeling is still pretty, it's pleasing and so fills the role of aesthetics and bringing forth feelings in the viewer. Something that conveys feelings but is not pleasing to the eye is also art. Something that does both is a masterpiece.
See the funny thing is i "get" modern art. Te pioneers of it, like that guy who painted that painting that was hung sideways forever, thats just lines and colours, he was trying to reduce the aesthetic of art to it's core. That certain figures and colours juxtaposed in certain way could illicit a response, and that is beautiful. But what passes as art now days? Fuck on my last visit to an art gallery i saw a shoe on a pedestal. It wasn't painted or anything, it was just a shoe that anyone could have bought and placed somewhere, and people would have called it retarded, but because some "artists" did it, and it was in a gallery people were crowded around it trying to pretend they were so cultured for liking it.
I consider that a compliment, I guess.
It's not that I'm elitist, it's just that I don't like to see a community of people lying to each other about how skilled they are, when there are thousands upon thousands of people with real, obvious and tangible talent who never get exhibited because they don't play the part of a "professional studio artiste" and make little ragdolls out of used tampons and bin liners or whatever.
And I comfort myself by knowing although the mountains of shit produced daily nowadays (waistcoasts and berets) there is still and always will be some rare gems that helps us recenter our conception of art.
Yeah, I have no problem with the idea of non-representational art, and interpretive dance routines and interactive sculptures and all that jazz, so long as it is any combination of (a) aesthetically pleasing, (b) emotionally evocative, or (c) transmitting a clear message.
For example, I can appreciate Dadaism for the comment it was making, but Warhol and the Pop Art shite just strikes me as unnecessarily irreverent. As in, Dada was about challenging the VERY present and well-established elitism in art at the time, but when Warhol came along, there was no culture of elitism left to challenge, so his message was lost/retarded.
We'd already had decades of art that was deliberately unlike anything that had ever been considered beautiful before, what the hell was he trying to say with Brillo Boxes?
So, in a way, it's a shame that Dadaism and subsequent modern movements were so successful in destroying elitist culture in the art world, because the pendulum has swung the other way completely since then, and it's going to be really hard to try and kick off a trend of challenging the art world by actually being talented and taking time over a work.
Haha, i like you anon. Glad to know theres someone else out there, who appreciates art, and sees Warhol for the hack he was.
The problem with his and many following movements is that they actually created a new artistic elite. That of the "bohemian" and.. well i cant think of any better term, or anything it better applies to thhan this, "hipster" art elite. Where unless you are doing something ironic or "different", then you just must not understad because you are too pleb.