They always the ones to call out contact-martial arts/combat sports not working in the streets just because it doesn't involve a gun/knife/third party niggas.
Though it's obvious an MMA fighter would lose against 1 trillion US Marines in a street fight, some still call it out like it's never been said 100 million times before. In order to sound knowledgeable and edgy with their un-trained ass.
Many people (who have never been in streetfights) will disagree, but honestly "street fights" are pretty much about how well you time your suckerpunch and how ruthless you are. This and psychology (i.e. "who is afraid of whom").
The most dangerous guys I've met didn't look dangerous. They were often rather small and weak guys who carry a knife all the time and attack you from behind or smash an ashtray in your face when you dont look. There's not way to protect yourself form such stuff unless vigilance and not misjudging people.
Or let me put it like this: IF (and only if) the martial artist can turn an attack into a fight, he has plenty of advantages.
But weapons change a lot. And it changes a lot if friends are there - mind they often won't stand up and introduce themselfes. A former "friend" of mine (who is rather an asshole) had trouble with some other drunken guy in a bar. Now when they were facing each other off, another buddy of my "friend" behind the drunken guy stood up silenty, walked towards them, grabbed the drunken guys face from behind and put him to the ground where then they both kicked him. Even if you are Hulk Hogan you have no way to protect you from such stuff.
What does help you? Situational awareness. If someone is stopping you and you have a "no, no" feeling and a group of gagsters is watching both of you from a distance or if two guys approach your from two sides at the same time in a dark alley - expect an assault and run.
If you have trouble with someone and he can't look you in the eye, that's a bad sign. If someone has troubel with you and is suddenly putting his hands at his pockets in an incidental way - that's a bad sign. Keep you distance and prepare for a sudden rush (i.e. prepare to move to the side very fast, try to get something between you and the attacker, grab something..).
>>894853 Think of it this way. Sure a Street fighter may argue that they don't need martial arts training because they have friends, weapons, fight dirty etc. However, these are all things that a Martial Artist may have as well. Just because they know how to fight, doesn't mean they are against using weapons or bringing a pal along to jump you. And it certainly doesn't mean that they will fight you with their sport rules in mind. They may kill you, but they will most definately try to fuck you up. That takedown thats illegal in Judo? He's gonna use it. That submission that's been banned because of high risk permanent injury? He's gonna use it. The part of the body that he has to avoid in order to not be disqualified? He's gonna attack it in a street fight.
>>893896 Except for that one time Billy Bob got a 4th dan from hanging out at the McDojo for a couple years of being beer drinking buddies with the owner and the time the "street" fighter was a builder/construction worker that laid brick for a living and has the body of a demi-god AND wrestled in high school AND occasionally gets some bag time in with the local boxing club.
No, it's not accurate. It's a fucking macro image that designed to be wildly inaccurate on purpose.
Of course I was generalizing. We can only talk about experiences here. But my experience is, that strong guys (either trained martial artists or people that are tall and strong by nature) tend to be cool and calm and smaller, weaker, untrained guys tend to be trouble makers.
That's why I wrote: > IF (and only if) the martial artist can turn an attack into a fight, he has plenty of advantages.
Weaker guys know they are weaker, that's why they act more like assasins and less like warriors, if you know what I'm saying..
To be ruthless you need a ceratin amount of violence in your life, often people who experienced violence. People who are afraid. Most martial artists have conficdence in themselfes, because you get to know yourself and to know your limits and abilities. They have honour. When you fight someone with honour, it's not a problem to lose. Someone punches you, you go down, no biggie. But if you fight some asshole without honour they start attacking you when you go to the ground. And sadly that's how a lot of street fights go down.
>>895082 >He's gonna use it. >That submission that's been banned because of high risk permanent injury? >He's gonna use it. >The part of the body that he has to avoid in order to not be disqualified? >He's gonna attack it in a street fight.
Not really, you fight how you train when under adrenaline and fight/flight stress. I've seen guys in real fights release chokeholds because the other guy tapped only to be sucker punched after letting go.
>Being the best-known figure in unlicensed boxing produced for McLean not only fans, but also enemies, including some of his rivals' supporters, and some who had lost money betting on McLean's opponents. McLean also made enemies from years of ejecting people from pubs and clubs. He suffered two bullet wounds from separate attacks, and was attacked from behind and stabbed on two occasions.
>>897235 And ive seen a guy get choked out by someone that trained in mma then had his face ground back and forth into the pavement. It all boils down to how much the martial artist wants to hurt the other guy, not if they train to kill. Usually martial artists follow some gay honour code, like not attacking a knocked out person or fighting them one on one.
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