>get run out of /sp/ specifically by crying man punk mma fans
>they explicitly demand that we be moved to /asp/
>we move to /asp/ and are happy with it
>now they're coming here with their cm punk memes and trying to claim our board
I don't get it man. Without shitposting, tell me (a casual MMA fan) why people are getting so butthurt about putting a rookie up against a rookie? Is it just because they hate CM Punk so much that they'll bitch about anything because that is what it seems like.
Because he's only getting the shot for his prior celebrity.
The UFC is basically "big league" MMA. You get your fight after you have your successes in "minor league" MMA. Shit like Cage Fury Fighting Championships, Ring of Combat, etc. You win fights and successes there, and then you get a debut fight in the UFC. No one you see in the UFC is a rookie.
So please explain Brock Lesnar's debut. Or Kimbo Slice. Or James Toney.
Face it anon, as much as you may want to believe otherwise, Dana gives two fucks. He wants the cash just like Vince, and he'll throw whoever he can out there to grab it.
At least Lesnar panned out. Kimbo was a ratings grab for a short while before he left while Toney literally came in to fight in the semi-main against Couture (which no rookie would ever get). Punk coming in to fight is no different that the three I listed, so why was there no public outcry then?
Brock had a fight in Japan before his debut, he crushed the can decisively. Plus the genetic freak hype and a weak heavyweight division.
Kimbo had several mma fights in Elite XC before his debut on TUF.
James Toney had a full career in a discipline used in MMA, he was a three weight champion
This is purely for money. I actually like CM Punk and am rooting for him, but it's bullshit his first fight ever is in the UFC.
Brock, as it has been mentioned at least had a single amateur win under his belt. He was also an NCAA champion, etc.
Kimbo, it should also be mentioned, was further back in the free-wheeling carney days, something fans had hoped was left behind. It's not that MMA fans don't know how absolutely awful this sport can be and has been, but we thought we had moved beyond this.
Toney was given the fight entirely to legitimize the sport. No one was under the illusions he would win. That was the point.
The fight was a cathartic excercise and the decisive final argument against nay-sayers who said MMA wasn't as technical or sophisticated as a sport as boxing. Toney was put up against a veteran who was there to show off exactly how carefully even an old and tired fighter can land an expert boxer on his ass, helpless.
Kimbo Slice was a pro street fighter. James Tony was a pro boxer. Any pro boxer could try MMA if they wanted cause it would show BJJ's superiority plus boxers make a shitload more and are more famous.
So is the road to the UFC as follows?:
>Start training at a local MMA gym
>Train hard and beat the local amateurs acquiring a good amateur record
>Promote yourself and get into an MMA minor league
>Do Well in the minors and suck off Dana until he gives you a shot
Or does the UFC have their own amateur circuit?
No that's pretty much it. I'm fairly certain the only MMA promotion with an actual amateur circuit is Shooto, which promotes itself as a martial art/system as well as a company, has schools all over Japan and runs regional tournaments to both help amateurs polish themselves in actual competition and to scout potential pros. It's a pretty sweet setup.
lol my dog wont even get in my guard now. his fight iq has improved so much since i got him
> take the board back edition
> made thursday
> 25 replies
>take back the board
>his thread is a literal ghost town, except for a few brave souls who came to shit on him
go back to humping your training partner, er i mean working on your 'guard' mmautist
What do you guys think would happen if pure hand to hand combat MMA fighters were put in riot gear and given riot weapons for a caged fight?
Because he's a whining hypocrite.
He cried on and on and on and on about part-timers getting big wrasslin' spots having not "earned them" yet he's happy to take a spot in UFC wthout working his way in through the bush leagues like every other fighter.
>What can the dog do?
Evade, initiate some sort of clinch and basic grappling, and most prominently, bite.
From my experience, anyway.
I'm sure there're other dogs more capable than the ones under my care.
I remember some Anon posting about how his dog rolled out of a submission or something like that.
Stop feeding the trolls, post about MMA
I'm going to Vegas for UFC 197, I love both Holly and Meisha. Meisha's the severe underdog, I was gonna put some money on her.
Mcgregor's just awesome to watch. I love his long reach style, and I too am a lanky southpaw with a karate background, and currently fight at 155, so he's someone I'd love to see fight.
been to vegas bbefore, crazy place to people watch, very very bad to leave the tourist areas especially at night.
Is Lyoto Machida just too old now?
Yes, and then there's the issue of the famous "Machida Riddle" having been solved and repeatedly. He has a fantastic and very distinctive game but people have poked holes in it multiple times and already know what to expect and have an idea of how to deal with it.
Look at Pettis last night. Alvarez might not have done it as well as Rafael dos Anjos but he applied the same basic idea for a gameplan against Pettis and came out on top, it's harsh when you have a gameplan with specific holes and suddenly everyone realizes what those are and how to exploit them.
It's been mentioned that Brock had a win against a tin can, someone who tapped out to punches IIRC. Sure he was an NCAA champion, but in his first fight in the UFC he got Frank Mir, and with a record of 1-1 he fought for the Heavyweight belt. Brock's a goddamn animal but you can't tell me 1-1 is deserving of a title shot.
Kimbo joined in late 2009, not "the free-wheeling carny days" of the early 90s. Hell, Dana had the season of Ultimate Fighter nothing but heavyweights just for Kimbo.
And I still don't give a shit about the why, the fact that James Toney came in to fight in the semi-main is still utter bullshit. Punk coming in is in the same position Toney is ("oh, a boxer/pro wrestler thinks this is easy? We'll show him"), save for the fact that he's not automatically fighting the best or even in the semi-main.
Bumping to kill WWE fags
The riot shield is a good anti-grappling weapon, though.
Generally, the shield covers more than half of the body at any time.
Being transparent, you can always keep track of where your opponent is.
Not only can you get bashed with the broad of the shield, you can get hit with the sides and edges of the shield.
Accompanied by a baton, which are generally 18+ inches long, with the telescopic variant commonly being 21 inches, the shield can hold off someone trying to grapple while the baton beats down on the head, shoulders, and any limb that tries to sneak its way past the shield.