Makes me sad >pic related could've Main evented mania
oops, you dropped your hat. be more careful next time, aalewis.
you now realise that there's not a single credible/logical opponent for Undertaker leading up to WM32
They won't do it again so soon after their LAST MATCH EVER
>Cena, Orton, Rollins, Sting, Daniel Bryan
All injured and unlikely to be back in time. Either way, what's the angle?
Tied up in a feud with each other
Lol, fuck off
Tied up in a feud with each other
Only possible options, even though they're ALL shit:
Rusev would be a fucking shit opponent for Undertaker.
Either Undertaker wins because MURICA or Rusev wins and makes Undertaker look even more of a fucking chump.
>What was the angle of Undertaker's past 5 Mania matches besides The Streak?
WM31 - Bray Wyatt wanted to be "the new face of fear" or some shit
WM30 - Brock Lesnar wanted to end the streak
WM29 - CM Punk wanted to end the streak, Undertaker wanted to fucking murder Punk
WM28 - End of an Era
WM27 - HHH wanted to avenge Shawn Michaels
27-30 all had the streak element to them, but Lesnar was the only opponent who was solely focused on it.
The frustrating thing is, if they'd not bothered with that awful match at Survivor Series, we could've had Bray/Taker II at WM32. Same storyline, roughly, as Survivor Series, but with the stipulation that Undertaker's career is on the line. He loses, Bray finally gets over as the nuclear heat tier heel he needs to be, everyone wins.
>That 10 minute squash at SS that made the family look like a total joke
Oh God. Why? I agree though. Had that not happened they could have salvaged Bray rather easily.
I still can't even imagine how they possibly justified Taker going over at SS.
>needs to be kept strong to lose to Lesnar, I guess, Wrestlemania, needs to get a semi-important win back following muh streak
>has his jobber-ass brother to take the pin
>has a 2v4 disadvantage
>still insistent upon going over the Wyatts and their shiny new monster Heel
>following a feud in which Roman went over Bray despite his shiny new monster Heel
>Bray looks useless
>shiny new monster Heel doesn't change the fact that they're still jobbing out hard
>Harper/Rowan are the designated jobbers
It may be about to get even worse.
>There's been a lot more talk within WWE as of late about introducing the Sister Abigail character to the storylines. The rumblings about Bray Wyatt's mysterious sister go back more than a year but word is that the talk has gotten more serious and WWE could be adding her to The Wyatt Family soon.
>Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter
That could actually be cool if they use it and take the Family as a whole forward and make them more believable. Abigail hits the scene, they get a morale boost and become more zealotous and crazy due to their Matriarch being right there beside them, that kinda stuff.
But the WWE will do as they've always done with the Wyatts: introduce some fresh dynamic just to have the Faces go immediately over them.
They keep missing out the important middle-step of "make them believable Heels" with the Wyatts because Bray does a good job selling the faction as threatening even when they're forced to perma-job, which speaks volumes for his mic skills but nothing about WWE's competence.
My problem is that Sister Abigail will be the default leader of the stable. She did 'raise' Bray after all, and seems to have some sort of control or influence over him. He could end up having to take a backseat in his own faction.
Worse still, she'd have to be at least on Bray's level of acting and mic skills. Can you imagine any of the women in this company being able to do that? Barely any of them are decent, let alone great.
This could be done well in theory, but it's WWE. There are just so many problems with it that they don't have the ability to write around.
Agreed but if she's not going to have a role beyond standing around and looking creepy what's the point of introducing her?
Shit, I used to like the Wyatts but they're up there with Rusev for the Slammy of "most poorly managed".
Even her presence alone would kill a lot of the mystique. If she appears rarely, with her face shrouded by shadows or something, maybe it could work. Full time member of the family would be a disaster.
It shouldn't be that hard to pull this off, but again, it's WWE. Their writing is almost on par with Pokemon.
I think if they used her appearances sparingly in order to denote when something of true importance was happening that the Family needed and rallying cry for it could be great.
Other than that she could be used to give his promos a bit more consistent direction and meaning, without necessarily having to be front-and-center?
>Abigail told me that
>I got a gift from Abigail! [reveals something spooky]
Kind of building a mystique around Abigail herself that they occasionally cash in on with sporadic, rare appearances, whilst also giving the Wyatts credence and room to develop on their own.
Of-course, she'll be having cat-fights covered in mud three weeks into the angle so who the fuck cares?
Apparently, THIS is Sister Abigail.
>Sister Abigail coincidentally happens to be someone on the roster
Fucking lame. She should also have to be someone who could be related (not necessarily biologically) to The Wyatts, not someone from Australia of all places.
Could work. Actually either of the other Aussie chicks already have the look but they're too green in the ring. But you could just have her in a non-wrestling role for like a year until they're ready.
>She should also have to be someone who could be related (not necessarily biologically) to The Wyatts,
>literally biologically related
>looks like she was raised in a swamp
>masculine physique that could be given more toning and musculature to give her an imposing appearance even if she never takes to the in-ring (which she shouldn't)
The only drawback is that she looks like Bo much more-so than Bray, so there'd be that magnetism drawing them towards an impending utter fucking burial of a "Bo Wyatt" angle.
Well Bray has all but confirmed that Abigail is dead, yet she still sends him 'gifts' like Strowman. So maybe she is using Emma's body as a vessel or something.
There's also her. I think she was actually trying out for WWE at one point but only as a ring announcer.
Christ, she looks disturbingly like Bo. Ugh.
Who will be the first to beat Lesnar clean after he conquered the streak?
Bray winning would've made Lesnar less important because it was only 1 year later. it's not like Taker's supernatural WM powers would've dwindled that soon, it would've put Bray on par with Lesnar which is a joke.
No it wouldn't.
Lesnar was still booked and treated as a godly slugger well above everyone else in kayfabe.
Even if Taker did go back up to his level, it wouldn't put Bray up there with Lesnar, it'd give the idea he could MAYBE go with them, which is good because it adds suspense, but it wouldn't definitively say "Bray is Lesnar-tier".
Also they were selling the "Taker is a worn-down old shooter" shtick so yeah his power-drop between WM 30-31 was big.
What if Sister Abigail wasn't the type of character we were envisioning?
What if she was a really grotesquely fat, freakishly strong and slothful Woman in a butcher's apron?
Like some "I hear banjos" crazy redneck Matriarchal woman and all the Wyatts are her sadistic kids she beats into line
>Kalisto winning is the best thing to happen on raw in years
Could you have worst taste? It was obvious as soon as they announced the rematch he was dropping it to make smackdown seem relevant for the new channel.
you can't be implying that the weekly LOLROMANWINS is better than this
every outcome is so fucking obvious it's not even fun to watch anymore, kalisto literally made me remember why I started watching this in first place
I'd want to see the division with the best boxing not the one with the biggest people.
Heavyweight boxing has been garbage for ages. Tyson fucking fury is the heavyweight champion.
Kind of a stupid point since Floyd Mayweather has been the biggest draw in boxing for ages.
Why did people want to see Brock Lesnar fight in UFC so bad? Why was he their biggest draw? Because of his technical wrestling ability in the WWF? Or because he's a huge freak athlete?
I think it would be an awesome way to throw the fans a curveball.
Judging by people theorizing how she'll be booked, everyone expects Abigail to be some taciturn, mysterious character, completely enigmatic, veil over her face, never uttering a word or displaying any of her true intentions that stands contrary to the Wyatts' monstrous natures.
So having some mammoth fat bitch with matted-hair and looking haggard as fuck, snarling and oinking like she was raised in a swamp (which they were) like a Female Piggsy from Manhunt would up-end everyone's expectations.
Moving the goal posts because his answer to boxing didn't suit your narative? People wanted to see Brock Lesnar so much because they thought he'd tear everyone apart. People were still excited to see Ronda Rousey (lol) and Connor McGregor fight because they are entertaining ans skilled fighters, their weight has nothing to do with any of it. No one wants to watch 3, 5 minute rounds of guys humping each other on the floor regardless of their size.
Not fat but big like Rowan and Harper
>Kenny Omega at the start of that
I realized the other day that he must be super fucking hyped to be moving up to HW in NJPW because he actually starved himself to stay a Junior.
>we will now get glorious mastadon Omega
Depends how they handle it, it's incredibly sensitive.
Done well and sparingly, could be great and provide the Family as a whole a defined direction and motivation they sorely need.
Done wrong – or "by the WWE" – they'll shit everything up irreversibly.
Better than the scheduled Haitch match because their family of some sorts and it helps Roman's push, because let's face the E won't give up on Roman might aswell give him all the help he needs.
I don't think he really needs one desu.
No talking necessary, just use the fact that fans view him as a nepotism babby and make him smugly beat up fan-favourites. Rarely talk and when he does he should say shit like "I'm a thoroughbred made for sports entertainment" and "you belong in a High School gym".
It'd be interesting.
It would be a match where Rock does some gimmick moves like shitty stomps and punches, Ramen would probably start dominating, then Rock would do some comeback move, hit the peoples elbow and rock bottom that Roman would kick out at two/reverse into sooperman poonch or spear
Because I'm sick of having to download caws who all use the same generic ass entrance with Paige's theme. 2k models may look shit but it would at least feel like I'm actually playing as them.
too bad havocks racist tweets were literally coming out as she was in the ring and one of the personnel there showed everyone and by the time she got done they told her that they couldnt sign her because of them. Prior to that they liked her, liked her look and she was decent in the ring.
>tfw we could have had hightest nia jax and havoc at the same damn time
feels bad man feels bad.
That would surely further channel the True Detective vibe of the Wyatts.
IM MARKING OUT BRO THE DWAYNE VS THE REIGN!!!!
Imagine if Vince would have let Rusev beat Cena at WM and then become a monster heel. Just on principle alone, if you arrive to the ring on a goddamn tank, your opponent is gonna get his shit pushed in regardless of 'odds' to overcome.
What a fucking waste.
Please don't remind us. It still hurts.
The regular crossface is in there, so you can pretty close to the Bank Statement, just without that cool backstabber setup, as well as the bridging.
Bankrupt might be in there. Haven't checked.
>this was rusev 9 months ago
>now he's dancing with new day and it's probably lana's fault
still fucks lana and drives a lambo, fucking based rusev
>>now he's dancing with new day
>implying that wasn't the GOAT short alliance
Anyone getting his metal as fuck Wyatt Family t-shirt with Sister Abigail on it?
Bray's career has been a cycle of gaining and losing credibility but I think someone debuting as Abigail would just destroy him.
Any girl they choose won't even be half as dedicated to the gimmick as Bray "The Euphoric One" Wyatt is to his.
The second one looks like some Bloodborne shit.
It's a cool concept but it's way overdone, the "EMBRACE YOU" writing on the abdomen can go, as can the red markings over the vestments and the sleeve tats.
>Triple H is the only guy to have gone over Brock clean several times since he got back
It was only at mania and it technically wasn't clean at all.
No one has pinned Brock clean since he's returned, Cena used the chain and steps and Haitch used Shawn, the steps and I don't remember if he used anything else like the sledgehammer.
THERE IS A SEVERE LACK OF THE MAN, THE MYTH, THE WORST IDEA EVER
>couldnt handle ribs
>was green as fuck
>sandbagged swaggie and someone else almost breaking his neck in the process had it not been for the pure strength and awareness of swagger.
his theme is still over as fuck.
el torito was over as fuck and so was the chant. even owens got a el torito tat because he was such a big fan.
I'm not going to believe he's signed until I actually see him on WWE Television. In all seriousness, he's probably the biggest talent acquisition the company has had since the WCW days. If they fuck this up, Vince may as well hang it up.
alright wrestling fags listen up real close cause this is the last and final chance i'm giving your fat asses to get off my board.
/asp/ was originally created for people who who actually participate in their sports. which is why you see threads like MMA where people discuss styles and give others tips. NOT because they think it's cool after seeing it on a fucking tv show like you nerds but because it helps us become better fighters in real life. you see our practice of these sports has given us the right to post here. how many of you actually train to become "wrestlers" (i keep the word quoted because it's not really wrestling it's fucking soap opera)? i bet there's not a single one who actually is training. NO you just watching your shitty tv show all fucking day. THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS BOARD WAS FUCKING MADE FOR
IT WAS MADE FOR PEOPLE WHO PARTICIPATE IN THEIR SPORTS
IS IT SO FUCKING HARD TO GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEADS??????????????????????????????????????????????????? YOU FUCKING RETARDED AUTISTIC SHITS
maybe we could come to some sort of agreement since it seems that the guys over on /sp/ really hate you (with good reason) and don't want you back i guess you have no choise but to stay here. BUT can you atleast limit the amount of threads you make? im not saying you can't make threads but add a few rules to it
>only make a new general when the old one drops to page 3
>don't make shitloads of threads about the same subject (really there's no need to)
>smal items don't need their own threads you can just put them in the general
>stop the fucking retared "is he autisic" threads and other shitposting
>STOP FUCKING USING TERMS LIKE "PLAYING WITH TOY GUNS" OR "MMAUTISTS" AND STOP FUCKING CALLING REAL WRESTLING GAY
>that means no trolling of ANY kind
if you can comperehend this set of rules i believe we would be happy to accept you here and allow you to post your threads
What if they had Brock vs Shinsuke at Wrestlemania?
>The biggest star in WWE vs the biggest star from New Japan
How hard would that be to write? With the Network in Japan now then wouldn't they get more subscriptions from there?
When they were tag champs, they had no gimmick other than just being a tag team. That's pretty middle ground booking and only Rosa was memorable due to her forced hispanic bullshit.
They are being repackaged yet again. WWE probably doesn't need to do that but they have to be favored for other reasons outside of family connections.
>Remaking their match from 10+ years ago
You know what, that honestly would be kind of neat to see
Of course they won't, but it would be a bit surprising if they did bring it up. That was shortly after the time when Brock walked out of the company & Nakamura was just some jabroni young boy.
B8 but I'll reply anyway
No one cares about any of the current roster either. What you want to see Heath Slater vs Brock at wrestlemania?
And a stiff as fuck match with Brock in his first year in WWE would help cement Nakamura as a threat in the eyes of the audience even if he doesn't go over but still manages to stagger Brock.
You might as well book Brock against the biggest star with international appeal if he is not in the main event scene. Also since he's starting with a clean slate in WWE he isn't viewed as a jobber joke like the rest of the roster that has been buried beyond repair.
Remember the first Raw in Chicago after Punk left and the crowd tried to hijack Raw with a bunch of rules about what they would cheer and boo? I think they also planned to turn their backs during Haitch's promo or something lel
>Monday Night Raw after the Rumble
>"YES YES YES!"
>"BRYAN IS BACK"
>"I'm back for one reason, to be champion again!"
>"At Fast Lane I'm going to..."
>"WE HEARD THE RUMORS MAGGLE"
>"IT'S SHINSUKE NAKAMURA!!!"
>Nakamura swags down to the ring, Bryan is stunned
>Nakamura points at the wrestlemania sign
>"You... me.... WRESTLEMANIA"
>Crowd going wild
>"It would be an honour... to introduce your opponent at Wrestlemania"
>"THE FORMER TAG TEAM CHAMPION!"
>"THE BIG GUY"
>"HE'S HUNGRY MAGGLE, IS SUSHI ON THE MENU?"
>"Shinsuke Nakamura... meet Ryback!"
>"Can he do it guys? YES YES YES"
>Ryback vs Nakamura at Wrestlemania
Would /wwe/ mark?
>that huge pop and boo when Heyman came out to Punks music
>Regarding Tyler Breeze going from WWE NXT to the main roster, Triple H reportedly really wanted to protect Breeze and saw him as a heel on the level of Dolph Ziggler. Vince McMahon agreed and started Breeze at that level but then wasn't convinced and ended the push immediately
checked monday said says hes still a free agent and hasnt deleted it yet .
Hopefully he signs so he can go be based in NXT.
>"HE WAS OVER AS FUCK!"
How many of these do I have to post?
Own up who is doing this on Noelle Foleys facebook page?
it's some mental case on twitter that keeps posting the same things and claims to have big case against the govt and he will be rich in no time. It was originated from pic related on /pol/
there has to be a Reigns vs Haitch match to end the fued and the Roman vs Authority storyline. Unless they blow it off at Fastlane then make it Roman vs Brock at WM with Brock winning the Rumble, the only logical booking would be H winning the belt to continue the storyline all the way to WM.
It would be smarter to do Hunter at RR so he can get the heat needed to be the top heel to ensure Roman's opponent at WM doesn't get cheered over Roman. Best booking possible at this point desu.
>mfw based HHH gives Roman the Sheamus treatment at Mania.
AND THE NEW WWE WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION
I DONT BELIEVE IT JOHN!
TRIPLE H IS A 14 TIME WORLD CHAMPION, 1 TITLE AWAY FROM TYING RIC FLAIR AND JOHN CENA, HAHAHA I LOVE IT! LEMMY WOULD BE SO PROUD.
Where did I say it was smart booking? Half of Triple H's title reigns have been some of the most idiotic things this company has ever done. Especially when it comes to his feuds with former WCW guys.
Honestly he doesn't get top anything reactions in general
Go listen to Cena, whether they cheer or boo they react
Roman is a little tepid in comparison and this is supposed to be his big crowning storyline that defines him as a top guy. He should be over and smoldering hot right now.
>Lesnar was the only opponent who was solely focused on it
>typed on the same post that featured "CM Punk wanted to end the streak, Undertaker wanted to fucking murder Punk"
Did you even watch the angle leading up to 29? I mean, yeah Lesnar is more memorable because he broke it, but if you go back and come 29 v 30, Punk should've conquered the streak.