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>The Wrestling Observer is reporting that WWE Chairman and CEO Vince McMahon apparently wants the upcoming WrestleMania 32 event to be the start of "several years" of Roman Reigns in the company's top spot that was formerly held by John Cena.

>According to the report, "the plan is for Reigns to go over and be the top babyface in the company for years to come."

>The overall attitude within WWE is that it doesn't really make a difference if the fans boo Reigns because, as is evident with Cena, cheers and boos aren't damaging to the babyface of a franchise such as WWE, and diverse reactions from fans can often be seen as a good thing since they can launch stars to bigger levels of business. However, it's also well known that Reigns is not as big of a star as Cena, even though his merchandise numbers are good.
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>>1028004
Cena didn't get booed out of his first Wrestlemania moment desu
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>>1028004
based fucking vince, the roman empire will reign supreme!
the IWC neckbeards BTFO
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>>1028006
This, He was cheered.
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>>1028004
See here, if this is truly Vince dream then he could achieve it but it's like he's doing everything to make people dislike Roman.
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>>1028004
>Vince doesn't care about who fans like or dislike

How is this news? The booking of Roman's rise to the top has just been Vince saying

"I literally couldn't care less if people like him, I'm pushing him anyway. Because...he looks cool?"
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Do women and kids still like Reigns?
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>>1028004
Thank you based obvious report
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>>1028022
Kids cheer for whoever Vinny tells them to cheer for.

Women like him because omg he's so hawt XD
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I'd rather have half the arena cheering for my guy than the entire arena cheering for their guy

t. Vince McMahon
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>>1028038
>I would rather make half the profit as long as they stop liking what I don't like

Sounds about right.
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>>1028022
Women like Dean more.
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>>1028038
>than smarks cheering for their guy
because 3-5 months later smarks will start to hate him and jump on someone elses bandwagon. Might as well stick with the marks that last longer.
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>>1028024
Except for that one kid that yelled "Roman you suck" right before Trips hit him with the bell.

Kids cheer for the one that looks the coolest, and that's Triple H.

I've never understood how anyone can think Roman looks cool in his tacticool gear. It looks like the most generic action figure ever.

And then Triple H comes out all pissed, wearing his awesome t-shirts and jeans, wielding a sledgehammer and a waterbottle and spits water like a fucking dragon.

Now that's cool!
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>>1028048
maybe the trailer parks or tumblr but even tumblr doesnt like ambrose anymore.
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>>1028004
>>The Wrestling Observer

Stopped reading.

Back to woo or reddit or wherever
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>>1028004
WWE's main event scene is going to be so fucking shit for the next decade. I hope the rest of the card makes up for it or I'm done.
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> However, it's also well known that Reigns is not as big of a star as Cena, even though his merchandise numbers are good.

This is actually a huge problem.

It didnt matter that Cena was getting booed cause like every casual and mark loved him.

Reigns isnt even that over with normal fans.

Kill yourself Vince.
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>>1028059
This post reminds me of that segment where the Rock asked Eugene who his favorite wrestler was, and he said Triple H because of the way he spits water.
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>>1028077
>SUPERMAN PUNCH!
>SPEAR!
>ROMAN REIGNS STANDS TALL!!

Rinse, lather and repeat until the product dies.
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>>1028057
>daniel bryan was over for his entire run
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>>1028159
The chant was over the whole time
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>>1028163
>smarks liking someone because of a chant
you don't even know what memes you're posting anymore
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>>1028090
See, little kids think that's cool. Triple H posing on the ring and spitting mist up in the air.

Roman is just, I dunno, he's dressed in black gear and he's tiredly fistbumping his way down aisles escorted by businessmen. Then when he's in the ring he jerks off his fist, jumps and punches, yells his stupid battle cry and spears. Not very cool gimmicks.
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>>1028220
>>smarks liking someone because of a chant
the dwayne says hi
and the marks liked him because of the duck dynasty gimmick/look and the chant.
Look at smackdown and raw this week, the chant is over as fuck and it wasnt directed at bryan hell it was directed against hhh who it was used against during bryans run.
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>>1028004
It's like x-pac heat but in reverse.
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>>1028004
>even though his merchandise numbers are good.

whos buying his merch?
I've never seen a roman shirt in the crowd, tho Ive never actively looked for it and i have no clue what they look like.
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>>1028311
Kids and women buy his merch, along with the occasional literal downie as seen on Raw
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>>1028311
>I've never seen a roman shirt in the crowd,
they are there especially in mark cities a lot of them.
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>>1028311
Roman's shirts are about as generic as they get, so you may have seen a lot of them without realizing it.
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>>1028401
They've got the latter down, but aspies keep buying merch in droves.
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>>1028401
But smarks have stopped watching, that's why the ratings keep going down. But Vince already said he doesn't care about ratings either.

It's not going to get any better so might as well just stop watching.
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>>1028004
>a report that's finally saying in plain english that Vince doesn't care about the fans

well here's hoping this Circulates and Mania can't fill even half the arena.
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>>1028407
>But smarks have stopped watching, that's why the ratings keep going down.
yea fuck all those streams not being watched really hurt lol
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>>1028480
>well here's hoping this Circulates and Mania can't fill even half the arena.
Smarks will go to boo.
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>>1028488
>implying someone would by a ticket to an event just for one match on the card
>just so they could boo it
I know you think smarks are retarded. But they aren't as retarded as you claim them to be,
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>>1028506

Begging you to lose weight
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>>1028311
I'd buy something if his shirts weren't the worst designed. Holy shit they are walmart tier cringe shirts.
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>>1028506
Absolutely begging you to have sex
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>>1028524
>>1028549
nice samefag, but you're criticising my lifestyle doesn't prove how I'm wrong.
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>>1028545
theres been maybe 2 decent designs but much like most wwe shirts the back is terrible.
The roman empire one is the only one i would buy and wear.
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>>1028589

You were saying faggot?

Fix your teeth before you post again
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>>1028597
again though. Doesn't prove how my claim that not all smarks are as retarded as you claim them to be is wrong. You're just deflecting my argument with personal insults.
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>>1028006
Cena was white hot for a year or so before he became stale. Roman was stale before he was even pushed.
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>>1028004
Wow thanks Meltz I had no idea that Vince was going to have Roman Reigns be the top guy thanks for the heads up!
>smark: ugh wow how unbelievable i'm upset and i rage as if i had no previous knowledge but i'll keep watching for those years
>anti-smark: argh how dare you say that smark i'm going to post google trends proving you wrong hahaha take that smarky!
This will happen for several more years
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>>1028701
>anti smark: argh how dare you say that, I'm going to call you a virgin and tip fedoras proving you wrong, haha take that smarky!

FTFY
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>>1028734
To be fair it's only necessary if you call the WWE wrestlers by their indie names
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>>1028740
Tell that to the windowlicking anti-smarks who flood the general with it.
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>>1028004
>>The Wrestling Observer is reporting that WWE Chairman and CEO Vince McMahon apparently wants the upcoming WrestleMania 32 event to be the start of "several years" of Roman Reigns

Wow profound news here Dave Meltzer. I'm going to subscribe to your newsletter ASAP to get the latest scoop in the mandrama business because I had no idea they were planning on making Reigns the top guy until I just read this!
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Entry level wrassle biz philosophy:
>"Believe half of what you see, and nothing of what you hear"

Y'all a bunch of marks.
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>>1028901
Sounds like you're falling for the shoot
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>>1028057
>stick with the marks
Marks are turning on Roman. For example, in one of the threads about the broken nose work there was some kid thinking it might be legit and saying that would be a good thing because it would mean Roman not headlining WM.

The only people sticking with Roman are Vince marks, and they'll ditch the guy the moment his push ends.
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>>1028901
>im[;ying that's not just a marvin gaye lyric
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>>1029006
>Marks are turning on Roman

Only someone who is vapid beyond belief believes this.
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>>1028288
Thats because they respect HHH for putting Bryan over.

The chant is over as it is thanks to Bryan.
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>>1028288
>What? Chant still used even after Stone Cold retired
>Chant over not SCSA
That's how retarded you sound
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The SCSA and Bryan chant comparison is retarded
Austin was mega over before the chant was a thing
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>>1029063
so was Bryan
stop posting.
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>>1029043
Standard Vince mark strategy. You can't rebut the point made, so you try to change the argument to insult trading.

Yet it's very clear that Roman is being turned on by marks. He's getting jeered by children. The third hour of last week's RAW was a big turn-off for women. The claims that anti-smarks have been making about Roman's core audience are being demolished by the evidence, and there's nothing to take their place.
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>>1029080
>so was Bryan
kekerino
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>>1029082
>The third hour of last week's RAW was a big turn-off for women
What?
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>>1029082
>The third hour of last week's RAW was a big turn-off for women

What
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>>1029021
son you're drunk
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Don't make him John Cena, make him Roman Reigns

He can still be a face or a tweener at worst
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>>1028004
>diverse crowd reaction

the only time he gets cheered is on smackdown.
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>>1028068
>one statement on one blog
Nah Tumblr is still very much Ambrose/Reigns because they want to see them fuck
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>>1028077
It won't. Vince is a millionaire and on his way out; he cares more about his vision being put into place than anything else and he'll bury anyone who the fans like more than his paramilitary tacticool babyface

Stop watching RAW; Stop watching Smackdown. Watch good matches online after they've aired but don't support a product you don't enjoy as a whole
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>>1028288
>and the marks liked him because of the duck dynasty gimmick/look and the chant.

Oh, look, it's THIS guy.

You are by far the most retarded poster on here, and that's including Poochador + Jewcucca.
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>>1029239
>He can still be a face

Every time he's gotten stymied by heels (MITB cash-ins, Bray costing him MITB, HHH breaking his nose) the crowd has sided with the heel.

The longer he remains a babyface that nobody likes, the less chance there is of him EVER getting over properly.
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>>1029120
>the delusion of an anti-smark
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>>1029082
>The third hour of last week's RAW was a big turn-off for women

What did he mean by this?
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>>1030201
Presumably the demographics?
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>>1030210

Based on what?
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>>1030223
Nielsen ratings?
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>>1029080
Bryan only reached Austin levels of popularity with the chant. Austin was there at at least three years prior. How over was Bryan before the post-Wrestlemania smark crowd decided to chant yes, and it caught on with the casual viewers? Or better yet, where was he in 2011?

There is no comparison at all. Whether or not Bryan was over or could've gotten more over, the chant was absolutely instrumental in what did happen and that is absolutely not the case for Austin.
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>>1030477
Did you miss the part where WWE was basically attempting to force the YES! chant onto somebody else?

Bryan stopped doing it basically right after 18 Seconds and only started doing it long after his popularity skyrockted
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I don't believe for a second that Ramen's merch is near Cenas. Cena gets a lot of shit and rightfully so, but Cena is gi-fucking-gantic. Normies know who he is and he's done four thousand make a wishes.


I wouldn't expect anyone who hasn't watched wrestling consistently in the last year to know who Ramen is. And by that logic, his merch is probably not remotely close to Cena'a
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>>1030492
It was already associated with him, it really doesn't work like that and that's a pretty silly argument. I'll give him credit for doing it during his entrance, esentially creating the chant and getting it over, but it esentially grew and ended up getting him over.

To be honest I might have jumped in at the wrong point, if your side is arguing against the claim that Bryan wasn't over, which he clearly was to some degree. My point was that comparing it to the "WHAT" chants and Austin is an absurd comparison for the reasons I mentioned.

Regardless, you didn't address any of my key points.
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>>1030524
The point is, silly, that if it was only the chant then co-opting it somebody else would've worked (it didn't) or he wouldn't have gone for the better part of a year without doing it only to get even more over.
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>>1028159
>mizdow
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>>1029122
>>1029142
>>1030201
RAW on the 22nd of February drew 4.2 million viewers in the first hour. Second hour drew 4 million. Third hour drew just 3.4 million. It wasn't just women flicking the switch, but they did so in larger numbers, despite Roman working the main event.

It's an open question as to why women stayed for the second hour but didn't want Reigns, but the anti-smark's article of faith that Reigns is super-over with the female audience is in pretty bad shape regardless.

>>1030269
Yeah, Nielsens.
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>>1030571
They did it for literally every popular wrestler. They do it all the time, with or without Bryan. Even when he wasn't doing it, he was pretty much pandering to it and they were doing it because it was associated with him. They couldn't stick it on Brie because she didn't create it.

Still doesn't mean he wasn't as over as he was because of the chant.
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>>1030621
people dont want to see league of jobbers vs roman again
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>>1028407
The hardcores are the only ones watching because of the 3 hour Raws, WWE has a low casual audience which is mostly made of children of the hardcores.
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>>1030626
> for literally every popular wrestler

Literally once when Big Show was feuding with The Authority.
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>>1030655
Your memory is so good that you can remember not only everything that happened, but also everything that didn't happen for a whole year. Get tested for autism.
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why isn't anyone making a new general?
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>>1030670
>wanting another skype meme general
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>>1030672
It was a work.

Jewbacca literally just got btfo. He's trying even harder now to get (You's)
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>>1030665
> actually knowing what I'm talking about
> y-you have au-autism

sick comeback bruh
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>>1030677
Be that as it may, the threads get better discussions than the general.
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>>1030686
> he comes to /wwe/ for discussion
Fuck off wewtist
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>>1030686
tru
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>>1030689
> shitposting

Breaking your poor mother's heart.
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>>1028068
>tumblr might but they don't
The fuck kind of talk is that
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>>1030706
> he thinks shitbox means arse

learn2bants, lad
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>>1030710
What is a shitbox then lad
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>>1030714
A junky car.

Or sometimes a toilet.
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>>1030714

Your life
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>>1030721
Holy shit.

DESTROYED.
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Well I guess I stumbled in to a Roman Reigns promo.
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>>1030718
A shitbox is your arse, google it

>>1030732
Pathetic samefag
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>>1030752
> everybody else is wrong, not me

Retreat in shame.
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>>1030755
Tips*
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>>1030683
I don't believe that you have an idetic memory of the entire year of 2013 to the extent that you can exclude all occurrences of a chant which was popular at that time. Unless, that is, you're autistic.

I'll give you one example without having to look: Raw after Wrestlemania.
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swaggy mc jack
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>>1030778
>2013
Meant 2012.
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>>1030778
You are trying way, way too hard to sound far more intelligent than you are.
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>>1030778
> /asp/ies
Fuck off back to Applesteve's thread you tryhard cunt
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>>1030791
>ad hom
How would you have worded it, smart-ass?
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People just need to start pelting garbage into the ring like the old days, they'll get the message across, also a lot harder to edit out
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>>1030797
Literately?
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>>1030655
>Literally once when Big Show was feuding with The Authority.
I think we're agreed that this is bullshit.
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>>1030801
You can insult my intelligence all you want after you've answered my point. You're admitting defeat otherwise.
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>>1030814
I'm admitting that I have no fucking clue what that garbled buzzword salad mish-mash was even trying to say.

>You're admitting defeat otherwise.

There you go again...
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>>1030814
No one gives a fuck about your point. Fuck off nerd
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>>1030828
Apart from the cunt arguing that nobody except Bryan and Big Show one time got YES chants in 2012.
>>1030823
>getting proven wrong by a dyslexic retard who may or may not be underage
Time to end your life.
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