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>75 gallon tank
>2 juvie oscars
>2 juvie jack dempseys
>2 juvie green terrors
all fish under 3". I am just keeping them in this tank til I can discern male from female. I already found the male Terror. Anyway, anyone have any tips for cleaning a sand substrate?
a single beta or a single endler's livebearer (cousin of the guppy). These are the only fish that can thrive in such a small tank. The tank can also hold a Dwarf Puffer and they are really cool. They just require constant water changes and water parameters to be happy and healthy.
My plants are doing meh, my corals are doing fantastic though!
Unfortunately a lot of the small 'cool' fish that can be kept in nano's are also quite hard to keep. Dwarf puffers and Scarlet Badis are both incredibly picky eaters, and often only eat live food, most can be trained to eat frozen bloodworms, but even that is a huge pain in the ass. There's a few species of tetras that are only a centimeter or so, those may be good. I'd avoid the larger 'nano' tetras, size tetras need to have 5 or more, even 'nano' tetras schools can have large bioloads. They have some tiny green tetras at my LFS that are fully grown at only about the size of newly born guppy fry, although they are expensive ($5 each), a small group of 10 or so could be kept in a 5-10 gallon tank relatively easily. Honestly though, shrimp are your best bet for nanos. Once you get a large breeding population of shrimp (100+ in a 5g) then you can introduce one of those micro predators I talked about earlier, like dwarf puffers or scarlet badis, and as long as they don't eat the adult shrimp they should be provided with a good supply of constant live food, which you should still supplement with occasional bloodworms.
>My plants are doing meh, my corals are doing fantastic though!
My plants went through a rough patch, it took me a good two weeks to figure out what was wrong. Apparently my nitrogen was very low, below 5ppm.
One week later with 20ppm+ and they're looking so much better.
Nice! I only have heavy root feeders, and really good soil substrate capped by sand, so they are fine on all nutes. I just have two plants that are struggling to deal with my light, but my floating cover plants are getting thicker every day, so soon they will have the partial shade they want.
>Reasons why you shouldn't have a 150w Metal Halide over a 4g tank
psh you noob. I've been cycling my gigas tank for a day already, and planning on rescuing one from petco tomorrow. This is my gigas tank. Suggestions?
That wasn't even my post, fucktard. I assume your the OP, so I'll say this specifically to you. Just because the word 'edition' is in the name of the thread, it doesn't make the thread solely about the word that precedes 'edition'. It's a fucking /aq/ general thread. Anything that has even the slightest relation to the aquarium keeping hobby is discussed here. From fish, to substrate, to tank design, and yes anon, even to corals.
The fact that you'd wish that on any living thing shows me that you shouldn't be allowed the privilege of any type of pet. Unfortunately we can't take people like you and just put them in asylums anymore. You are the autist cancer killing /an/.
>>implying fish don't grow to the appropriate size of the tanks they're in
The outsides of the fish do, but their internal organs do not, and if they can't expand properly it will cause the fish many hernias, eventually killing it from stress/being internally smashed.
Not him, but even doing the craigslist/diy route i spent $500 making a proper 55g freshwater community tank, and about $1,200 on my 30g reef tank, which most reefers would call low tech. The 55g cost me $50, and the 30g cost me $100, as just the base price of the tanks. Everything else went into filters/lights/rocks/substrate/heaters/misc. Even my 4g freshwater Nano has cost me $150, not including cost of the tank itself.
So yes. Keeping a proper fish tank is expensive, and just because you tell yourself your cheap setup is adequate, it likely is not.
Everyone will disagree with me, but I've kept an oto in tanks ranging from 10g-2.5g over the last two years. The little guy has been an absolute champ, basically getting moved from tank to tank to clean up algae. He's pretty much always been by himself, and continues to thrive. Honestly, he seems to make friends with the other species of fish in the tank. He seemed to hang out with my dwarf puffer A LOT.
So yes, a small group of oto's (2-3) should do fine in that small of a tank
>My point was just that you don't need to blow your bank for a decent aquarium.
If have enough money that shelling out $500 for a medium sized freshwater aquarium isn't breaking the bank, then sure! you definitely don't have to spend all your money on the tank. You do however have to provide an adequate enviroment for this animal that you've paid to have captured out of it's natural habitat, transported thousands of miles from home, to die in your aquarium. The least you can do is provide it with a good life, and if you do a good enough job, they will actually breed, hopefully helping to keep more of their wild friends from being captured. Sadly, very few fish captured for us aquarists actually even make it to the fish store to be sold, and of those few, even fewer will ever be able to breed and fulfill their biological destiny.
THAT is why we spend money on our aquariums. Not because we simply want a cool object or decoration to look at, but because we actually want to preserve the species we keep, and want them to thrive like they do in their natural environment.
It's like keeping a snake in a shoebox, I mean sure it will live but it wont be happy and it wont thrive, you wont be able to enjoy it as much and you wont have the peace of mind that you gave your pet the best environment and conditions you possibly could have.
Small tanks are fine for small species. But a small tank doesn't mean a small pricetag. Like I said, my 4g nano still cost me more then what most fish tank owners (note: I didn't say aquarists) ever spend on their 55g tank.
And as for your dog and house argument, pic related. Also for good health dogs need to be walked at least once a day, because they do need exercise, just as a fish needs space to swim around. Are you able to take your fish on walks? I've never seen a Bala shark owner taking a bala shark for a lap around a lake on a chain so it can get it's proper exercise. No, I see people stick those in a 20g tank all the time, and then they think it died of old age after 6 months and it got about 5 inches long.
The whole 'watts per gallon' concept is incredibly flawed. Just a good general idea for people who don't want to devote the time it takes to understand lighting, which is fine. It really does matter what type of bulb your talking though. If thats 30 watts of flourescent, it wouldn't be enough to illuminate the tank even, but if it's 30 watts of LEDs, then you might have enough light to grow any plant. My LEDs over my reef are only 55 watts, and yet my coral thrives.
....So what kind of light are we talkin here?
So from what I read online, those are T8 bulbs, correct? You might be able to keep dwarf baby tears, but they will be long and stringy, and reach for the surface of the water, not spreading out and carpeting like we like baby tears to be. I doubt you'll get much growth. My advice? If your planning on being in this hobby long term, go ahead and buy two of the 165w LED chinese black boxes on amazon for $80. They will literally grow everything you could ever want to keep in the hobby, from the most light intensive SPS corals, all the way down to keeping Java ferns and Anubias. They are dimmable, so you can go from 5% all the way up to 100%, which will probably fry most freshwater plants. They have a life of over 12 years, use 1/3 the power of every other light, and provide a better spectrum then even metal halides. They will pay for themselves 5 times over, just on your bulb replacement costs over the course of 10 years.
TLDR; shell out $160 bucks now and have infinite amounts of aquarium lighting at 1/3 energy cost and no lightbulb to replace for 12 years.
Get five to six white cloud mountain minnows. Or you can get the gold colored cloud mountain minnow.
Hell, you could do those guys AND shrimp. A shrimps bioload is so small it won't overwhelm the tank, even when combined with five or six small fish like minnows. Not unless you have 200+ shrimp crammed in there with the fish.
To be fair, most people outside of /aq/ think it's perfectly fine to house a betta inside of a vase with some pothos vines as it's only source of food for it's entire life.
These same people also think the average lifespan of a goldfish is a couple weeks, and that they never grow larger than the bowl you keep them in.
>what most fish tank owners (note: I didn't say aquarists)
Copy-pasted from other thread, didn't initially see the new one.
>went to flea market
>beautiful antique slate-bottom tank
>iron single-piece stand
>55 gallons, 60 dollars
>no room for it anywhere
>can't justify buying it
Kills me, /aq/. If anyone here is near Glen Burnie, the tank is at the 8th Ave flea market, which happens every weekend. Really close to House of Tropicals.
I hope when you say 2 years, you mean you then moved them to a bigger tank, and not that they died. Because a cardinal tetra that's thriving should live about five years. I think they can live up to 10, like neons.
55g with nice stand, driftwood, rocks, and substrate cost me 80 bucks. Canister filter was only 70 dollars and include media. So no. I went Craigslist route and have a proper aquarium that has been up and running for over a year with happy fish, no one has been sick, and no deaths.
Finally copped two female dwarf gouramis. Or, they were delivered this morning, but I'm at work and can't see them yet. Difficult to find some. I understand chain stores don't stock them because they're not colorful, but still, pretty challenging to find them online.
I wonder if I'd be able to successfully raise some fry.
It's like you think you know about fish care. Nice job. I feel sorry for anything you keep. My fish actually thrive and have proper care. No wonder anything you keep doesn't like to move much. Sorry little boy.
I think most of the neons in one tank are about 6-7 years old now, the angels (which leave the neon alone, thankfully) are about 5. They're technically my father's fish, but I care for them most of the time. Previous angels lived to be 11, neons I think were 8-9.
The current neons in the tank that's solely mine are still young, but they seem to be doing very well. I have high hopes.
>keeps cardinal tetras in a tiny tank
>they die young, predictably
>"lol i am superior fish guy"
All of my fish are very lively, thank you for the faux concern. Anyway, 2/10, obvious bait but I took it anyway.
No, I feed predatory fish to my goldfish and encourage them to masturbate while I politely turn away.
Actually keeping them alive longer than they would be in the wild would be consider good and if they at least lived a minimum life span well then they must have thrived. Do you know nothing about life expectancy and how living things work? Put a bullet in you skull and stop shitting up out threads.
Why, because I don't think you should keep a shoal of tetras in a five gallon, because I can google things and see that you're wrong within seconds, or because I have higher standards than you in general? You're right, my poor neglected fish, living above their minimum requirements.
I'm a monster.
Keeping them alive doesn't mean they're flourishing. I would say that 2 years isn't bad, it's just not impressive. That's how long they should be living if you don't introduce predators and provide the basic necessities. A fish that's thriving should be more long-lived.
My feelings are 100% okay. Don't worry your head about it, I just think you're being a little tryhard right now. I already took enough bait, I've had my fill. Thank you, maybe I'll wrap it and take it another time.
Sage, this has derailed far enough.
I feel like /aq/ just keeps getting ruder over time. It used to be one of the few places on the site where we could just fellate each other about aquariums without much beef, maybe the one rare asshole/troll. Not sure what changed but these threads are almost as argumentative as the rest of 4chan now.
My angelfish recently reached maturity, and have paired off. They're my first cichlids, and I enjoy them a lot. They're in a tank with kuhlis, a pleco, and a rainbow shark. Are these cute little fuckers going to eat all the fry if my angels spawn? I assume the shark will try, but what about the kuhlis?
If they do breed successfully, I can probably sell or donate to my LFS, so I suppose I'm okay with the fry not being eaten. It would be most convenient if they don't breed, though.
>caring about what continent your fish come from when they're working well together and you enjoy them
>implying I'm angry
I can understand why you'd think that, but I'm more confused than anything. Time spent being a jerk is time better spent learning a new skill. It just seems wasteful to me. But I guess a hobby is a hobby.
I try to kick the want to go to this new lfs store almost everyday. He has so many cool and hard to find fish. Even has a few black water tanks set up and freshwater barracuda which I'm really tempted to take home. Along with a super rare brownish pink freshwater puffer named me chunky
Good for you, congratulations on all the success that you're not unlikely to be lying about.
Same. Last time I went in "just to look" I came home with driftwood and a new background. Time before that, new plants. Time before that, cichlids. I can't leave without buying something, so I just don't go anymore unless I have something specific I'm looking for.
And while you may be successful, your friends and family despise you. Trust me, I know people just like you. My roommate thinks I'm his best friend, I've hated that douchebag for years now. You guys just do these mental gymnastics that make you think the people around you like you, where you really just force them to be in your presence, and they hate you for it.
I can't even drive past the LFS without going in to buy a plant, and when I'm in my hometown, I'm constantly drawn to my reef store, because they love me there and always feed me, and give me free shit :) They are truly the best
>Only fiends I have are the same way as me and we get along
That's the lie you tell yourself. Like I said. You guys do mental gymnastics.
Your second bit just further proves that point.
hahaha well they do know how much I've spent there, only like $500 or so, so not toooo bad, considering all of my corals, fish, literally everything in my tank practically, came from them.
They give me free shit and feed me because I hang out there for like 3 hours at a time, and practically work there. While hanging out, I've captured fish and bagged them for customers, cleaned tanks (cuz I oddly genuinely enjoy water changes and general maintenance, and my 30g doesn't give me enough work), I've even sold a customer on a tank system. I've actually helped them make money, and whenever I have a day where i do a lot of work like that for them, they always slip a frag of some zoas or sps in my bag. Last 4 times I've been there, they havent accepted my money, even though i tried to make them take it.
My lfs is great. But if don't spend a lot at once they will not pay attention to you and if you do get there attention they won't talk to you and have a angry look on there face. Luckily a new store just opened 2 miles away and the guy is nice and openly invites people on his business page to come in and help unbox fish for fun.
Go to that new guy. The reef store I go to doesn't have the best selection, but after shopping at their store for a few months and becoming friends with everyone who works there, they will try very hard to help me get anything I want, whether they have to order it, or find a frag of it from one of their other customers. Give your money to the genuinely nice people, and help their business to grow, and I promise it'll make the hobby even more enjoyable.
Yeah, I don't pay close enough attention, but I might have to start. The only non-trip poster I can kind of recognize is nociception-senpai, and I don't think he's /aq/. I could be wrong, though.
>all this taking the bait
Truly the most easily trolled threads on fortune.
Here's your topic change, wankers
Hey, /aq/! What's some interesting/fun/unique fish pairings you've encountered/had in your tank?
>have a betta with two ADF and a bunch of peaceful but fast fish
>betta added last, but still fucks with other fish for the first week
>all the other fish just live with the bullying
>not the ADF
>lunge at him when he gets close
>swim up to the middle of the tank just to hover near him while he eats
>ignores all the less douchey fish even when they're on top of them
They're the hero's my tank deserves
>So easy to make people angry here.
Probably because there's no real cause or context to try to irk people in this thread. It's like crashing someone's book club meeting so you can talk down to everyone about their personal interpretations of the novel of the month.
>I'm a dick in person.
I believe it.
>I belittle people and degrade them to bend them to do what I want.
There's probably a very limited number of people for whom this is an effective tactic of coercion.
>Thats why I own my own business that's never lost a dime in 20 years.
Same here. Of course, my business hasn't made any money in 20 years, but it also hasn't lost any.
I feel like someone who is an accomplished entrepreneur as well as a misanthrope wouldn't be here right now though. But I'm currently at work as I type this, so who knows.
No because I can't fit anymore tanks where I live. If I could, I'd probably be fucked. But I do often feel the urge to buy *something*, and end up in stores just looking at shit. I ended up with a betta most recently.
A lot of my purchases lately are online anyway. LFS suck for when you want a very specific, non-meme fish or invert. I couldn't find RCS to save my life, or if I did they'd be colorless shrimplets or low-grade shrimp. I hate calling asking for a specific species and they don't have them. Almost rather just pay $30+ shipping and get exactly what I want, instead of trying to design my tank around what I can or can't find.
>puffer fish anon (I think there's at least two separate anons who own puffers, but I always recognize the one with the elephants ear in his tank, we had a long discussion about that plant)
>clown fish senpai (May or may not be the same anon who has an orgy sized saltwater tank that is currently being repaired because of some cracks on the bottom)
>mollusc dude (he stocked his tank with live plants collected from the wild, has an adorbs little mollusc that hitched a ride into his tank)
>scream anon (has a clay ornament in his tank that is a human face screaming, but oddly enough it works well, so it's funny rather than tacky)
>zen anon (has an oriental theme to tank, including a sweet Buddha statue)
>office betta dude
>at least a couple blackwater anons but I always remember the one with the long thin horizontal piece of driftwood
>two separate anons that both have pieces of driftwood in their tanks shaped like giant dicks
Whatever happened to the anon that has an awesome betta named after a pokemon?
I'm both puffer fish anon and clown fish senpai :)
i recently got a crayfish i want to add a couple fish with him that he wont kill instantly which species do you reccomend temporarly him in a five gallon until i can clear out space for a 30 gallon
It's pretty good, everyones happy :), except one of my softy corals, but he's always pissed. My puffer is actually a dwarf puffer, so pure freshwater for him :), I would like to get a marine puffer at some point, but they are kind of a gamble with coral, sometimes they eat it, sometimes they dont. And I have several hundred dollars in corals, so I'm not really sure.
For awhile I was trying to get a cowfish or a boxfish, but the first cowfish showed up to the LFS dead, the boxfish lasted a night in my tank and died (probably because he had already traveled two days in a box, then I picked him up, and took him to my house two hours away, i think the temp variations got to him), then the replacement boxfish (all of these were under warranty from LFS) died in transit to the store. At that point I decided I already did enough damage to the species, so I'm not going to try to get any more.
Is Bob naturally that blue? Or do you feed him special vitamins or something to bring out that vividness?
Also, why do crayfish, lobsters, shrimp, always look so damn pissed off all the time?
lol you crack my shit up man. Nah, have you ever kept a large group of DP's together? The males find their own territories, while the females stick together and swim through all the males territories. The territories my males would always pick would be like the size of a freakin betta bowl. This 4g is more then enough room for my little male to have his territory, and then some.
Here's a shot I literally just took of my puffer. He's doing what he literally always does, hunt. He's never bored.
Danios or white clouds, likely. They're pretty fast and stock to the to of the tank.
Tbh though the best thing you could do is hold off on fish until you get the bigger tank set up. A holey rock and some shrimp might work out better.
They're selectively breed. They also come in red and white.
The fact that your puffer eats mostly live food, and he actively searches for it, and you made damn sure there are plenty for him to eat before introducing him, man. Your puffer must be more mentally stimulated than most people's fish in 50 gallon aquariums.
My only question is how do you keep it so clean if there are constantly shrimp and snail corpses to clean up?
That's what I figure. My fish in my 55g always just swim around, and get really excited when I feed the tank. You should see this guy when he wakes up though (He actually sleeps completely vertically, wrapped up in my roots from floating plants), and once the light comes on he gets really excited and happy, swimming around everywhere super fast, because the snails (which have learned to mostly come out at night) are usually still out and about, and he gets to go on a quick morning rampage before they all bury themselves and hid for the day. Then he just continues to hunt pods all day, and snatches the occasional snail that comes out of cover.
Really one of the most interesting fish I've ever owned.
I use special filter pads that absorb ammonia, which takes most of the brunt of the puffers eating frenzies, and then I also do 75% water changes once a week.
Does he have a go at the grown shrimp or just the smaller ones? I've been wanting to do this for about a year and it's only gotten worse since one of the local lfs I go to has some pea puffers in.
He only has eaten newborn shrimplets. After they get to about half an inch in size, he stops messing with them. I'd say go ahead and do it. It's very challenging, and a unique tank. Just make sure you let your tank run for atleast two months with snails and shrimp before you introduce a puffer. Even then, you have to be careful about which puffer you select. I spent probably 15 minutes looking at the pea puffer tank at the LFS, finding one with the right personality.
No, it's wild territory really isn't any bigger then my tank. Good try though. Why don't you read a bunch of scientific reports on malabar puffers before you continue this conversation.
Are saltwater hobbyist the worse of the hobby? 95% if saltwater fish are captured from the wild. They use a poison to force them out of reefs so they can catch them easily and some die and some won't even reach the store. This automatically puts saltwater hobbyist on the bottom tier of any list. But they don't care because it's a dick measuring contest who spends the most money. Fish come second or third to them.
I'm a saltwater hobbyist, and do my best to only buy tank raised fish, not wild caughts. None of my fish in my tank are from the wild, none of my corals are from the wild, and furthermore, I frag corals often and give them out to fellow reefers, to spread out the species, hopefully prolonging their life on this earth, since I'm pretty confident that we wont have corals in our oceans in 20 years. I see it as conservation
Set up this tank a few weeks ago for my betta who's a few years old, once he kicks the bucket I'll throw all the rcs from my 55 in it and look for a dwarf puffer but for now this guy is digging his home, hell of an upgrade from a 3 gallon, no plants, no heater.
What type of fish did you look for when you were buying yours?
After keeping a betta in a tank as large as that, you'll realize how they truly aren't meant for small tanks. Watch him bulk up and put on lots of muscle in the next couple months, He'll honestly probably live quite a bit longer.
When I was selecting my puffer I was looking for a male that wasn't super dominant, and more passive(to hopefully not go after my shrimp). I watched for big ones that were hunting snails and avoided them (because they probably will eat a lot, and some puffers are literally bulimic, theyll eat eat eat eat, puke, then go back to gorging. They just love to eat. I also went for a male, not a female, because they stay smaller, and sometimes the females are just insatiable and just always want more food.
Thanks for the info, he's only been in there a few days and I already see a difference in him, always exploring. Might put some rcs in there to see how he acts with them, he's been a pretty aggressive fish which is why he was in a 3gal instead of the 55 so there's no telling what he'll do.
>an aggressive betta?! No way!
Back when I had a betta in my 55g it was the same thing. He'd chase off my bolivian rams and angels all day. Even though the entire tank was his territory, he would spend all of his day in a mason jar that i had turned on its side, and filled with air, a small beach (was for crabs to crawl into), and a nice plant. It was kind of an interesting thing. I bought him from the store in a mason jar, and it was actually that mason jar that the breeder grew him in his entire life, that was then his home in the 55g. Then one day I put a group of gouramis in the tank, and since they were also labrythian fish, he was having none of it. He got out of his mason jar and chased them all throughout the tank and beat them up pretty bad before I was able to remove them.. Up until that point I thought the mason jar was his territory, but in fact it was the entire tank lol
Lol I had one betta that was the biggest pussy you've ever seen. You know how most bettas will flare when they look at themselves in the glass? Not this guy. He'd see himself in the glass, and turn around and sprint the other way.
My betta seemed miserable in my 40 gal. I didn't think there was such a thing as "too big" but I guess it was for him. Now that he's in a 20 gal, he's happy as can be. Very active, much bigger than he was.
After seeing so many bettas just sit at the bottom of 1-5 gallons, looking like sad lumps, it's really refreshing to see one that's lively. I don't think I could keep one in something smaller than a 10 gal, they like having a good bit of territory.
Yep. Mine would chase my 5 inch acara and rivulatus away and would creep up on my bichir and just stare as you can see in this image.
And here's his ugly ass before I gave him to someone who had the neatest planted 10 gallon for him. Honestly I miss him but none of my other fish would come out anymore.
What can I add to this tank in terms of plants/decor? I think it's almost where I want it to be, but needs improved aquascaping. I was thinking maybe another patch of moss on the other side, and some tall plants in the back behind the driftwood.
Lmao! Mine would do that to my Cardinal tetras because he knew he couldn't catch them.
When he'd go up for air he'd have a go at the cloud minnows I originally used to cycle the tank.
Is there a rule that says a filter HAS to be on the back of an aquarium? My fish store told me it was unwise to put it on the side of the tank and then didn't give me a reason other than, "it messes with the flow"
Then it wouldn't be a hob filter...
There's really no reason, I don't see flow/dead spots being an issue if you run a cheapo power head(which you should do anyways). Tell lfs guy to fuck himself.
I've always read that RCS breed every month but I've never seen this. I've only had mine breed once then non ever became saddled again despite waiting 6 months.
But I recently bought some high grade females, not only did they become berried within a week of being introduced into the tank. But a few weeks later they are berried while at the same time saddled ready for the next breeding cycle.
Is this how they're supposed to be?
>Is this how they're supposed to be?
Yes. I wish I could get mine to *stop* breeding. I take about 15 out of my 10g every week, but the population never seems to change. They're like rabbits.
it'd be a HOS filter :P. Geez >>2073569, don't you know it's in the name?
For reals though, no it shouldn't matter at all, especially if you do what >>2073582 said and have a cheap powerhead. Everyone should have powerheads in their tank. Much better for the overall health of the system, and makes the fish much stronger.
I get around that by feeding more at once.
if you're feeding one wafer a day, make it two at once and only feed every other day.
or distract your angel with some treats when you feed wafers. Maybe some bloodworms or krill or something first, then drop the wafer when he's eating the good stuff.
Maybe put the algae wafers in something like pic related?
The thing is, I usually feed them flakes and wafers at the same time, but he'll happily eat a full portion of flakes and then swim off to the wafer before it's even had time enough to soften in the water for the intended recipients to get started, and then he'll gorge until he looks ready to burst, while the shrimp and catfish are too scared to go near for their portion. If I feed them the wafer a bit ahead of the flakes, I get pretty much the same thing.
That might be an option. I don't doubt that the amanos would go into it to eat, but I do doubt that the catfish would. Have you ever tried something like it? I suppose getting rid of trumpet snails is a side benefit to trying, and it's not like it could be worse than it already is anyway.
I got myself a shitstained twig from the pet store today and it was only $10.
Happy birthday to me.
A lot of tanks don't even have a "front" or a "back"; an aqueon tank can be faced either way, a rimless cube tank has four potential orientations. And realistically you could turn a tank sideways if you wanted to. What he said fundamentally makes no sense.
There are a hundred different variants. You could probably find one that'd work if you look around.
If not, try a water bottle with a large enough neck that the catfish can get in, but not the angel.
LMAO, he sounds awesome. Maybe you could try finding one of those rubber dog toys that are hollow, maybe one manufactured for a smaller breed, and every other day hide some food in it so when he's fucking shit up he receives a pleasant surprise.
Get some rotala and attach them to the top of that wooden spire, like pic related. And then there are many different vallisneria you can google, but I strongly recommend corkscrew val for the background.
And of course you can never go wrong with a couple marimo moss balls. Marimo moss is incredibly versatile. You can slice it to flatten it and sew it on to certain objects to make all kinds of cool tunnels, domes, carpets, and decorations for rocks/wood.
DERP, forgot pic.
Back when I had a crayfish I'd do this with seashells. I had a bunch in there and would put a pellet in one. She always figured it out pretty quickly.
>make heavily planted tank for my rasboras and rcs
>rasboras have all disappeared except for the original 4
>shrimp are slowly dying
>my new otos and corys seem to be doing great
Well fuck. What should I try with my otos and dwarf corys since all my shrimp and rasboras are dying off?
In the previous thread an anon told me to make a homemade cave for my Corie's and I'm doing that right now.
Going to add the java moss soon fellas
>white/gold cloud mountain minnows(benefits: extremely hardy, cold water fish so heater isn't required unless temperatures wildly swing or get below freezing within room of tank)
>betta(benefits: labyrinthine organ, so can breathe surface air if filter breaks)
>mollies(benefits: if gradually acclimated over time then can live in both brackish and saltwater, which means a drastic reduction in possibly catching freshwater illnesses such as ich)
That was me! Sorry I didn't get to answer your question on time, but the holes I suggested was essentially a place to thread the cotton string through to hold the java moss in place, sort of like the holes in shoes that the shoelaces go through.
Looks like you're doing a great job! Hope they like it!
Not that anon, but goldfish are terrible starter fish. They shit so freakin much, and are extremely prone to randomly dying because they can be inbred as fuck. On top of that, they all get fuckhuge, and will most likely eat any fish it can. They aren't even attractive.
Lol I'm totally fucking with you man. I have two mosin nagants leaning against the wall right now, and usually I have a 54r API round out and about, because I just love to look at it and fiddle around with it.
In my honest experience I had a bala shark in a 20 gallon for a year and forgot to change its water the entire time and he lived. Very hardy but probably died of old age because he was like 5 inches when I got him and that's a realistic maturity size
Just added a new, larger snail to a little tank only to find one of my old snails immediately ran up to it and has been riding the new snail's shell around the tank as if it's a tiny horse. The smaller snail will even pull most of it's body out of it's shell to try to keep a hold of the bigger one.
No matter what it tries the big one can't shake it. It has tried things like dropping off the glass or sitting at the top of the water. The smaller snail was sitting above the water line riding the other snail's shell.
I don't think this is mating behavior is it?
Pic related: Snail on Snail action.
This is a young bala that probably died way to young. Now, do you really think yours was mature?
i know it might trigger a few people here but i have a pearl gourami and a betta in the same tank. absolutely zero aggression and they even chill in the same corner. the gourami likes to feel the betta with its feelers. its not permanent though the gourami is going into my 55 as soon as i get rid if the male that tried to kill her.
The smaller snail might be eating a hole in the larger snails shell due to a calcium deficiency.
You can fix this by dropping a cuttlebone into the tank. The same kind you give to parrots to chew on.
If you don't have the time/money for a cuttlebone, then take a single egg, use a thumbtack to poke a hole in each end, blow the yolk out, then use some kind of file to widen the holes and smooth the edges out. Then use a toothbrush and water to thoroughly clean out the inside of the shell. After it's all clean, drop it in the tank.
Just got this 29 gallon set up a couple days ago and introduced a school of 6 zebra danios today. I know I know it's a little early to introduce fish but luckily I'm not a dumbass and know to do a couple 25% water changes a day for a while til my nitrogen cycle finishes. I just wanted some life in there. Next fish is probably gonna be a khuli loach. Eventually I'd like to do a couple guaramis and an angel as my center piece. Oh and some ghost shrimp for cleanup detail.
Eventually, I'd like to do live plants instead of the fake ones I threw in there, but that won't be for a while.
Oh and last thing, the big empty spot in the back left of the tank I am going to mount a small piece of driftwood with suction cups eventually, just to fill in that empty space I'm not too fond of but still leave plenty of room for swimming
Would a calcium supplement tablet work (the kind with magnesium in it) or should I just use animal-tailored products?
In the mean time I'll remove the smaller snail as a safety precaution. I got the smaller snail last week and it's shell was pretty pale, so a calcium deficiency might have something to do with it.
The only couple of gouramis you can have in a 29g is a 1M:2F trio of Honeys or Dwarves, or a shoal of Sparklers. Even then, they might not take kindly to a bunch of hyperactive danios. A single Angel might be fine, or if you want to do a single lone gourami you can do Thick Lipped/Pearl
Do your Kuhli Loach last, they like more aged, "dirty" established tanks
Hey thanks for the input, fair point I didn't really look into the guaramis temperament so thanks for the warning there. Yeah I'm only planning on doing one angel cuz they get pretty big. Maybe instead of guaramis I will do some kind of tetras or something, maybe another little school of something.
Oh and how do you think a german blue ram would fair in this tank with the above mentioned tank mates? Would he be bullied by the danios and tetras? I'd like to do one of them if he would jive with a community tank
Roughly how many litres/gallons?
I haven't run anything that big in years so feel free to ignore me, but here's what my fuzzy memory recalls...
As to heating, you'll probably use the same sort of heating as a hot tub or pool as you're looking at effectively making a pool. Heat the water before putting it back into the tank and have several outtakes so there's no really hot or cold spots.
Multiple intakes to a good canister filter/refugium combo should help on the filtration front. Be wary of dead zones near corners. Test with food dye and water long before adding fish!
I think a GBR would be fine, hyperactive danios stay near the surface and rams stay near the bottom in caves and shit. It might not take kindly to the kuhlis hanging out in his crib though, I don't really know too much about rams and kuhlis
Awesome thanks for the advice I'm looking at pool heaters now.
Well this is going to be on the floor in I'm basement/man cave. The basements wall is strong enough to support the water and started waterproofing it. Then just side glass and front panel. Slowly building it until it's planted, find some big pieces of driftwood, and lots of sand. Pretty excited. I don't know what's going into it. It'd be cool to make a almost self sustaining tank with constant breeding of smaller fish, shrimp, and snails for the larger fish to eat but still supplement with fish food. I don't know. We will see.
not him but you could easily dig a hole underneath for the sump or at least pour a concrete bottom with a fat drain line in it that runs to your filter.
Something that size you'll probably just have a 55 gallon drum full of silica sand for your filter. Set it up to backwash to the sewer when you need to clean it.
>The basements wall is strong enough to support the water and started waterproofing it.
you might actually want to check that.
Just because it can take the weight of the house on it straight up and down doesn't mean it can withstand constant huge pressure from one side.
Having it directly on the floor might make having a sump a little bit more difficult. You can try looking for any appropriately sized pressurized pond filters since you already have the tank volume to run them. Just do your research on plumbing and which return pumps to use. Monster Fish Keepers is a good place to start.
the bacteria you want to grow are already present everywhere. That includes in the air, in your drinking water, under your fingernails, and in the guts of your fish. Just not in large amounts.
lake sediment is usually anoxic, it doesn't grow the type of bacteria you need.
Dude you could go an Amazon biotope. Do the self sustaining thing, start small with things that self sustain like guppies and snails. Leave them to populate then add large things that eat them but not at at fast enough rate to diminish their numbers, like the puffer guy earlier in the thread did with snails for his puffer. With a tank that big you could actually get a SCHOOL of oscars, like 12 or so fish, with that amount they would actually mimic natural behaviour. Also if you go Amazon you could have gigantic cory cat schools and big fuck off plecos. You have near limitless potential friend.
I hope you have a fuck load of time and an even bigger fuckload of money. We all think about doing shit like this, but your getting into car territory here before your monthly utility bills and shit even take effect, I hope you like that house, because that is gonna be a huge bitch to get in and out too.
Power went out for at least one hour, less than 3, stayed up to prime the filter, Is my shit fucked? should I need to do a bunch of water changes now? I dont have a test kit, just strips for pre-cycle measures. This is a 2yr old tank with 4 WC minnows and a nerite, 2 swords, a few decent wads of Java Fern, 2 Anubias hostas, and one Anubias coffi. Assuming my pre filter sponge and all the plants/gravel/wood have been bacto-covered and the minnows are pretty fuggin hardy, I assume im fine, im just wondering if my bio-maxx/fine pre sponge are gonna re-cycle today which would kind of suck.
I'd say the most likely reason to do it is because most aquarium hoods have that little pre-cut out notch in the back.
Hang your filter however the hell you want.
Just keep an eye on the water parameters and watch your fishies, my 40 gallon tank with RCS/Amanos went through the same and everything was fine
If you feel really insecure, buy some Tetra Safestart Plus from your LFS and pour some in to help reestablish your cycling bacteria
hmm, ive got a planted 1.5 gal ive been pouring my wc water into cuz of muh fish poop nutes, that filter crapped out to obv, but it was submerged too, if shit goes pear shaped, could I use that instead of the pre bottled bac culture?
Cory cats randomly dying off, all water parameters are fine, other fish/shrimp are fine. Lost 5 corys over the span of a month, last one started acting weird yesterday so I threw him in an established hospital tank and this morning he's just gasping for breath.
Running high tech in the original tank so moving him into the hospital tank I was thinking it might have been the co2, but he's no better 20 hours later.
Could they have been starving? Stocking list is 13 Cardinal tetras, 7 otos, shit tons of rcs.
Yeah, I feed frozen blood worms on the weekends before water changes, Omega slow sinking for the tetras, some fluval shrimp food for the shrimp and a few bottom feeder pellets every other day.
It seems like they pretty much ignore all food but the blood worms though. If my last guy is alive when I get home I'll try to get him on a blood worm diet for a week or two to fatten him up and just keep him in the low tech set up since there's no shrimp it it.the
Week 5 of the new tank setup. Removed most java ferns. Microanthetum starting to grow a bit
Removed all the leaves of the dead amazon sword in the back. The root bulb thing still has healthy looking white/green roots coming off it. I left the bulb in the substrate, thinking it may be able to summon enough energy for a new leaf? is it possible for a sword to recover from this point? The tiny one in the front I was sure was 100% dead is sprouting new leaves. The new melon sword in the back has sprouted about 5 as well, doing nicely. Root tabs and flourish excel definitely help.
The little stalk plants in the lower right are actually surviving too, against all odds, I have given them zero help. I guess i should try to crumble the brown algae off.
Betta is by far the most beautiful one I've ever had and has stopped attacking the nerite 24/7. I named him Liberace.
>What I've been doing is dropping the food on the current of the filter so it shoots all the flakes to the bottom. Would this not be a good idea for some reason?
>for some reason
how about for every reason? why the fuck do you think sinking pellet food is made?
Anyone have an idea how long until she gives birth? all the other mollies were huddled around her so i assumed they were waiting for the "food." I put her alone in a 10 gal with a breeding trap.
Are you under the impression that there's some inherent nutritional difference between flakes and pellets? Cories can eat flakes just fine. Literally the only reason you wouldn't want to do like >>2074048 is saying is if the flakes sink under the gravel to where the bottom feeders can't get to it. Barring that, it's fine.
>You can't expect cory cats find food
Can you really be this stupid?
My betta died today, he was 3 years old. I knew it was coming, he stopped eating a few days ago and has been lethargic for over a month, but it still makes me sad. I have no idea what to do with his tank now, just have an empty 10 gallon sitting around until I do. I'm just going to keep it running until I make up my mind. Any suggestions?
>Can you really be this stupid?
Can you really take my post out of context any more, dumbshit
Cory cats will undoubtedly find food if they were the only occupants but they're competing with 13 tetras and a large RCS colony
I've had her for about a month now and she just got bigger and bigger every week. I think she's pregnant, shes acting like shes getting ready to give birth. but i will do that, thank you for the suggestion.
Yeah, I realized after posting that the picture didn't really give a good sense of scale. Normal price was apparently $22, but they marked it down on account of being "used."
Speaking of, how important is it that I get all of the bird/chameleon poop off of it before putting it in the tank? I imagine it's no worse than the chicken manure in that MiracleGro Organic Choice soil.
Funny that you would recognize me by that tank, since I post my others far more often. Admittedly this one is probably the most distinctive of them. I'll gladly accept "scream anon," though.
The tank is mostly water lettuce at this point. It's out of control.
>>clown fish senpai (May or may not be the same anon who has an orgy sized saltwater tank
I am usually both of those guys.
As anon above notes however, I am not the only anon here with clownfish.
Thank you for being the one person to respond with an intelligent reasoning instead of "that's bad and ur stupid cuz that's not what I do". Yeah I watch to make sure all my fish get properly fed and the flakes stay out of the substrate so I think it's a good alternative unless somebody has a legitimate argument.
I've personally never had any of my plecos eat any of my plants, mine are always well feed though, sooooo maybe your not feeding enough?
If you have a smaller tank get something like a rubber nosed pleco. Online it says they get up to 7 inchs, but I've never seen that. My two year old rubber pleco is still basically the same size he was when I got him. I'm sure he's grown, but it's so slow and miniscule I don't even notice.
That sucks anon :( at least you know you gave him a better life than 99% of all bettas. If I were you, I would just buy a couple RCS, and maybe get some smaller fish like sparkling gouramis or something after the RCS colony builds.
5 gallons is too small for anything other than dwarf panfish, shrimp, or a single betta. Tetras are schooling (all species), and all need at least 20 gallons and 6+ members. You could try dwraf mosquito fish, but for a first tank I'd try betta. Shrimp are difficult for beginners and really sensitive to water quality.
If you have a siphon that you're using to vacuum, just swirl it on top of the sand and the detritus should lift up easily. If not, just reach your hand in and ruffle the sand slightly, the light stuff will be sucked up by the filter while the sand should settle.
>I have no idea what to do with his tank now
Are you up for a challenge?
You can technically submerge anything... whether it will DIE in that state varies. Porthos shouldn't be 100% submerged for more than a month or so. It will need one month on land at least after each time submerged in order to let it recover. It makes an AMAZING "marginal" plant, though, where you leave most of the vine out of the water but bury the roots in the aquarium for water and nutrients. Porthos loves water.