Hey /an/. I've become curious about tortoises recently. How smart are they? I don't intend to teach one tricks or anything, but can they be socialized with? Are they interested in any toys or games? Do they like human contact at all, or are they one of those animals that doesn't really have any business being a pet but people like having "exotic" animals so now they're everywhere?
Also, tortoise/turtle/terrapin/miscellaneous armored reptile thread, I guess.
Some people will tell you "reptiles aren't capable of complex emotions" and try to back it but by saying "muh reptilian brain" but they're wrong. Tortoises are very capable of forming an emotional bond with their keeper.
When tortoises look like they're enjoying something, they're actually in intense pain that deeply scars them in both the material and metaphysical senses.
>Being this retardedly assmad
Some tortoises pretty definitely enjoy neckrubs and scratches. I've had aldabras do pretty much everything a tortoise is physically capable of to get me to do that.
Sorry you have a warped view because you probably have only been around red eared sliders or something.
> tortoises pretty definitely enjoy neckrubs and scratches
and you're able to tell this because?
> I've had aldabras do pretty much everything a tortoise is physically capable of to get me to do that.
no you haven't.
you've been watching cartoons for too long.
>What's another good choice for a companion when you live someplace with a "no dog or cat" rule?
Tegus make great companion lizards, they're affectionate, smart and with a wicked sense of smell. But if you can't have a dog or cat I doubt they'll let you have a 4ft lizard.
Tegus will want to be with you even if they're warmed up and have a full tummy. They have no need to use you as a giant heat mat when they're already warmed up and the ambient room temperature is optimal. But they'll still want to climb on you.
As kinda related side note: They're also partial endotherms (warm blooded) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4737272/
I attribute human-like characteristics to my car. How does this make you feel?
>and you're able to tell this because?
Please explain what else a large tortoise walking up to you and stretching it's neck all the way out while just standing there is. Why the hell else would it just keep sitting there ignoring food/whatever else for as long as you were doing it?
I'm not saying tortoises form complex emotional bonds with people, but you're retarded if you think an animal can't enjoy something as simple as scratching an area they can't reach.
Good job whining and trolling and posting no evidence beside "W-WELL I THINK"
I have actual experience with the animals. You've yet to give any sort of anything past spewing a bunch of bullshit.
You're retarded if you think tortoises aren't capable of reacting to positive stimulus.
>Please explain what else a large tortoise walking up to you and stretching it's neck all the way out while just standing there is.
>Why the hell else would it just keep sitting there ignoring food/whatever else for as long as you were doing it?
I don't know, you don't know either, but atleast I don't pretend to know like you do.
>Good job whining and trolling and posting no evidence beside "W-WELL I THINK"