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>>2064533

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And that's all I got

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I would need your help identifying my 3 months old snake.

He was sold as a texas rat snake, but the shop wasn't sure whether it had some yellow and/or black rat snake in it.
He clearly isn't a pure texas rat snake from the pictures I've seen on the web, but I couldn't find wich intergrade it was.

The closest I've seen is yellow x grey x texas rat snake

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>>2064611

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>>2064613

>>2064611
>>2064613
>>2064615
Sorry for the huge pictures.
Also, his chin is rather yellowish but you can't really tell from my crappy photos

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Cobra porn

I'm using a lamp and a rock under it. Would that be sufficient for basking or do I absolutely need a heating pad? They seem expensive, unreliable and snakes go on rocks to bask anyway in nature.

>>2064665
Never get a heating rock tho. This is kill

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>>2064533
>>2064613
I take it your seek is extremely curious too? My best guess is a Eastern Rat snake, dunno rat snakes that well.

>>2064701
>This
I invested in a rheostat for my undertank heater, have two hides, water bowl, thermostat/humidity gauge on each side. I used the AstroTurf crap made for reptiles and have a branch for her to climb on.

>>2064616
This >>2064533 snake is not mine but eastern rat snake is just a generic term for all the rat snakes in north america if I'm not mistaking

It's mine, she's constantly periscoping/staring at me too. My ratsnake knowledge is weak, and google wasn't much help. There are a few other herp threads running that might have answers

>>2064719

not the anon you're asking but yeah, rat snakes have a lot of personality.

>>2064665
I hope you mean just a plain rock and not a heating rock. Heating rocks are almost guarantee to cause burns.

Most snakes get most of their warmth from belly heat, so a UTH is pretty necessary. Look into heating tape if you don't want the UTH. Both go on the bottom of the tank and heat up through the glass/whatever and there should be a bit of substrate on top of that.

>>2064719
The snake in the post you replied to is a ball python

>>2064649
Kauthia morphs?

>>2064613
its a rat snake friend

>>2065019
Yeah well for the 3rd time I know it's a fuckin rat snake. I mention it in the goddamn post.

>>2065012
Yup. 1.0 albino 0.1 Formosa phase

>>2064728
Eastern rat snake describes only P. alleghaniensis; of which are only found east of the Mississippi river. Central rats (P. spilodes) and Texas rats (P. obsoletus) are the other two.

>>2065295
Im pretty sure rat snakes are now elaphes

>>2065335
Nope, other way around. They used to be classified under Elaphe, and are now Pantherophis as of a few years ago. The three region-based species distinctions are also recent.

Source: https://ssarherps.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/HC_39_7thEd.pdf

>>2065341
Ahh you're right anon. I've been lately looking at so many rat snakes sheet that still call them elaphes that I thought it was the contrary.

Holy fuck. I got my ball python a few months ago and he has continuously refused to eat. Tonight I wiggled a nice and warm dead mouse at him and he went actually took it. I am like a proud father right now. Its so exciting.

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Heres my carpet python. Best reptile i've ever kept. Beautiful as hell, easy to keep, and a joy to work with.

>>2064445
Fuck yeah, blackheads!

Are you an aussie? Fucking jealous as shit if you are. Those fuckers are really expensive in the states. Always wanted a black head. Hear they're very intelligent and inquisitive captives.

>>2067404
That's fucking beautiful

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He is fullllllllll

>>2064445
Anyone know of the best place to order online for snakes? I'm looking for either corn or CA king. I have no breeders around me. Closet breeder is 4 hours away. I live in the U.S.

>>2068253
Or a rat snake. Fuck. Which of this list is the best?
>King snake
>rat snake
>corn snake
>milk snake

Best as in which is overall the best to keep around? I want something that can chill and be a beautiful bastard but not be a bulky looking ball python. Also something I can keep in a 20 gal and not have to worry about a tropic climate so much. (Made a thread earlier for beginner snakes.)

>>2068258
First of all you will need something bigger than 20 gallons eventually for any of those snakes.
I would personally say to go for a rat snake because even though they're a bit snappy, they are diurnal, more active than cornsnakes, don't require much humidity and there's a ton of nice subspecies and paint jobs out there for a lot less than 100$. They will also tame down eventually if handled frequently and correctly.

>>2067777

>>2068258
I like king snakes, they have several gorgeous species and they make great pets, pretty docile and they don't get too large. Perfect beginner snakes.

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>>2064445
My borneo short tail python

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>>2068798
She is a lot bigger now but these are good pics

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>>2068799
>>2068798
I also have a pastel ball python

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here's a midget snake

I have a cal king. Anyone have ideas for something I could easily make for my snake to climb on? He keeps slithering up to the top of the tank and then falling down.

>>2069033
Sterilized wood. PVC pipe pieces. Bamboo stakes ziptied together.

>>2069036
This.

You can sterilize wood by sanding or scraping the bark off, soak it in wate overnight, and bake it in the oven at 300 degrees for a few hours. Water will steam gross shit out of the wood and leaves it cleaner looking. If you don't want to soak it just heat it in the oven. It looks way better sanded though so it has no rough edges

>>2068442
>bigger than a 20
I have seen on multiple sites and multiple breeders have told me and have shown that you need a 20 gallon for milk snakes and corns

>>2069576
I would still argue to get a bigger set up. I have always heard that the vivarium should almost be as long as the snake
for colubridaes or a bit shorter. I don't know about milksnakes but I'm pretty sure a 6' snake would require something bigger than a 2´ long enclosure.

>>2069576
Also, breeders and pet shops tend to keep snakes in these plastic drawer type enclosures. A snake requires bigger space if it is in a clear enclosure like an aquarium because it feels more exposed.

>>2069576

Snek rule o' thumb bare minimum tank size is tank length + tank width = snek length. So, 20g long is 30" x 12", meaning maximum snek length for that would be 42". Now that is absolute minimum. 30g breeder tank (L36" x W18" x H12") would be much better for a snake of that size.