>>2053776 >implying that the whole of north america, the third largest continent, is well mapped and easily accessible >implying that the whole of russian taigas is well explored and mapped and that NOTHINg and i do mean NOTHING higher than 3 feet can exist there >implying you're not a fucking retard
>>2053691 >>2053776 No, you're an idiot. Native people knew it was there and it wasn't 'hiding' in plain sight for european explorers. It was just the european explorers didn't bother much with Africa aside from the coasts and slave trading until the 19th century,which was when they really started expeditions. They hardly touched Africa aside from the coasts and gorillas don't exactly head down to the beach to get a tan. The ones that did do it earlier, their goal was to reach point A to point B, they collected and told of what they saw along the way. Believe it or not, exploring a new contentient is fucking hard, especially in a place where you are at a serious risk of diseases unknown to you(another reason why exploration took so long, the other being that europeans didn't see much value in trading/trade routes in Africa). If you're limited to funds, supplies, medicine, hauling your ass and shit through an unknown continent to you, you aren't going to take a look at mountains and go, "Well, we can go around, save two days and not risk anything more than we are already risking but fuck it, I prefer to waste more of our everything."
>>2053789 >>implying that the whole of north america, the third largest continent, is well mapped and easily accessible I'm not sure about Canada and Mexico, but there's nowhere in the US you can go where people haven't been. Usually millions of people.
>>2053790 oh you mean the same like the native people of tibet "know" about bigfoot ? please do tell how is that case any different than yours also > Believe it or not, exploring a new contentient is fucking hard, especially in a place where you are at a serious risk of diseases unknown to you you yourself just explained why people dont explore taigas and you yourself have just admitted the posibillity of a large undiscovered creature living in northern russia/canada. thanks for proving my point. its past your bed time billy boi.
>>2053792 I'm not that other anon who mentioned russia or canada, but you're still an idiot. The case is different because it's the 21st century. While there is plenty of rural areas in North America, there is no bigfoot. I am sorry to break this to you. At most, we might discover subspecies of animals that already live in the area that probably looks so similar that you'd have to test it for genetic differences but you will never find Sasquatch. Yetis are even less plausible if you're one of those people who imagine them to live on the peaks of mountains.
>>2053799 i never once said i believe there is such a creature out there. i do say that you cant dismiss the posibility of such creature existing with a 100% certainty, not even with a 90% certainty. why ? simply because humans dont have and never will have all knowledge about the earth.
>>2053804 not to mention i never said that. i just said i meant the whole continent so i didnt specify USA+CANADA+MEXICO you special snowflake you. the saddest part is that you're probably serious and not even baiting and that im talking to a woman.
>>2053387 >arguing about cryptids actually existing Christ, I thought those big foot shows were all just fun and games for views. I didn't know people above the age of eight years old actually believe this trash.
What the fuck is a Batsquach? The only Cryptid I know anything about is the Paddler of lake Pend Oreille in norhtern Idaho. It's one of the deepest lakes in the United States, so the government used to test submarines there. The conspiracy was that the government was actually testing advanced sonar technology in search of the Paddler, a long, multi-finned sea-serpent or also described as a pike of monstrous size.
>>2053387 So, since when did things like the wendigo, Jersey Devil, mothman, and skinwalker get lumped in with cryptids? I was under the impression that termed was used for more "realistic" (and I use that loosely) creatures, and not blatantly supernatural ones.
Depends on what kind and if it's attacking me. If I saw Frogman I would take a picture of it, if with friends I would capture it. Frogman doesn't sound too scary, just ugly. If I saw a shapshifter or skin walker I would run for my life.
>>2053789 Actually, no "wilderness" exists anymore. Every single square kilometer has been either fully domesticated or in some other way altered by humans. Most of Europe, Asia and the Americas have been agricultural cultural landscapes for thousands of years, and the rest of the continents for hundreds of years. There is no undiscovered land. There is no land untouched by humans. There is no land that hasn't been shaped by humans.
>>2057107 >antarctica >many parts of the Sahara and a good amount of Siberia >99% of the ocean floor, and the sub-surface ocean >much of the great forested areas on the planet no one has ever really gone into or known to have ever explored Nice hyperbole, buddy.
>>2057107 >There is no land that hasn't been shaped by humans. this is a lie there is plenty of land in my country alone where no human has ever been in centuries if ever, huge tracts of old growth forest and barely any human presence ever
Large parts of the forested areas on Earth hasn't only been "discovered", but are in fact also cultured and used in logging industries. Even the "savage" Amazon is now known to have been transformed into an agricultural landscape by pre-columbian Americans.
Also: >many parts of the Sahara and a good amount of Siberia Top fucking kek. For "exploring" tundras and deserts, Google maps is more than enough. >inb4 google is in cahoots with le guvnent and illminato and hiding things from us
>>2057132 >Large parts of the forested areas on Earth hasn't only been "discovered", but are in fact also cultured and used in logging industries again not true at all many areas that are "discovered" are not inhabited or utilized by humans in any advanced way
its easy if you're some urbanite twat to say this but if you've ever lived out in the rural areas you can easily see even with loggers and mining towns it still very wild all around
>>2057135 >or utilized by humans in any advanced way From this notion, it became clear that you don't only live in a colonial nation, but also do so in the belief that your ancestors "brought civilisation to a savage land". This notion might have a small truth in it if you live in Australia, but for the rest of the world, the landscapes have been shaped by humans long before the European arrival.
>its easy if you're some urbanite twat to say this Kek. I live in a major city now, but I grew up in a very remote, sparsely populated town in northern Europe. The proximity was densely forested, yet every single tree was planted by human hands, and used in the logging industry.
Britfag here, I once saw a black panther walking across a field. Wish I'd taken a picture, but this was the era before camera phones were any good, so if I had done it would have just looked like a black pixelated blur.
I suspect I might have been stalked by a panther as well. Would have been shit to be attacked by it, but at least it would have been physical evidence that they're around.
>>2057144 You're the one stereotyping. I'm a geologist. 8 years ago when I was fresh out of school I got a job doing soil samples for a logging company in Canada. You ever look at Canada on Google Earth? You see those fucking huge swaths of forest? There are areas of old growth trees that have been growing since modern Europeans colonized north America. We were logging in a place so remote that on our free days there was no where you could go. You were stuck in the logging camp. We'd get shipments of supplies by plane from the nearest town. It was quicker than using the logging roads.
I also worked a mining operation that was almost as remote, except we were right by a lake to make shipping easier.
Never saw anyone out there who wasn't working on the camps. Spent entire free days drinking and fishing and no one asked me for a fishing permit even. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if there were undiscovered creatures in remote rural Canada.
>>2057161 >It wouldn't surprise me one bit if there were undiscovered creatures in remote rural Canada. This is a whole different matter. There are probably undiscovered fauna on all continents. I doubt they're half as spectacular as any of these cryptids, however.
>>2057145 That would be hilarious. I've been stalked by a cougar before. I was hiking around mendiceno in a pretty rural, unpopulated spot. The day before some other hikers spotted a cougar and her cubs by the trail. It was still sun rise when I pulled into the parking lot. The only other car there was a ranger's vehicle. I was just heading up the trail when I noticed two rangers heading back towards the lot. They warned me about the cougar, told be I shouldn't hike alone right now. They had one of the signs they were posting along the trail and walked me through what to do.
Well 3 hours later I'm about half way through the trail. It's a very old logging area so there's a nice mix of virgin red wood and red wood planted by the old loggers. The trees are absolutely gigantic, growing out of the mountain side. Elevation would go up and down. There was a fine mist that you climbed out of at the high parts of the trail, then descend back into at the low parts. It was at one of those low parts that I started feeling a little sketchy.
I couldn't see more than thirty feet in any direction and a stream that was beside the trail drowned out all noise. I decided to take a break and eat lunch while watching the stream. There was a large flat rock at the base of a large half dead redwood. One of those ones that still lives but it's hollow on the inside. As I was eating I inspected the river bank. It was all muddy and shitty so I didn't want to get too close, but there was something obviously imprinted in the mud. It was obviously a giant paw. Still wet, with only one good print. The others all looked swished like it was moving fast or jumping from the spot across the stream.
Anyway, I walked as fast as I could (no fucking running) but once I'm about 60 feet away I look back. Just a bit further down the stream is that fucking cougar. It just stared at me then walked away. Who knows how long it was watching me. I had no option but to keep going down the trail.
>>2057182 Oh, and before you say it, the mist was that thick in certain areas, but not by the stream. It was also a lot more clear by the time I sat down for lunch. Ocean mist is so cool, but I still don't get how it works. On cloudy days like that one it lingers until mid afternoon or even later. We don't have shit like that in Chicago.
>>2053685 The government knows the exist. They just sure as hell aren't going to confirm them because the last thing anyone needs is every idiot going to hunt/harass native rare species because they want to be the first person to shoot a bigfoot or something. Poaching has already wiped out a few of the cooler US cryptids back in the day.
>>2053801 Ah the old "you can't prove 100%" line. I can't prove to you 100% that there aren't pixies at the bottom of my garden, that dosen't mean its likely that pixies live at the bottom of my garden. No you can't rule out bigfoot with total certainty, its just highly unlikely. And it gets less and less likely with each passing day that more and more of our wilderness gets explored, exploited or developed, and people fail to find any evidence at all of such a creature. We would by now have found something of such a large animal. Fur, tracks, evidence of foraging/hunting. There would be something. There are only about 3000/7000 snow leopards left in the wild, living in some of the remotest and most inaccessible parts of the world, and reacently a bunch of skiers just bumped in to one. Its getting harder and harder for large animals to hide from us. Then there's the fact that there are plenty of "reliable accounts", but no one has any physical evidence. If people are encountering them at a relatively high rate, why has no one ever been able to whip out their phone for a quick snap? This photo of said snow leopard shows an animal of comparible rarity, encountered for just a few moments, and the people involved managed to take a reasonable photo. So no, its not impossible, just very, very unlikely.
>>2063736 There are Plenty of Lazerus Taxon out there. Of course the idea of a large mammalian being an undiscovered taxon is a problem. The problem is that none of the rediscovered species are over 2 feet in length and the majority of them tend to be small mammals, frogs or lizards.
my favorite being the Arkan Forest Turtle, which was thought extinct, until they found a few specimens in, shock and surprise, a chinese food market, where it is harvested for food and "medical cures"
fucking chinese folklore remedies. Driving so many species to the edge of extinction....sorry, got sidetracked there.
Also, there have been a few larger new species of mammals discovered in the last couple of decades, but again, not nearly the size of these cryptids (One example is the Saola. A small deer-like creature in Vietnam, that is about 3 feet tall at the shoulder. Remains were found in 1992, and it was first seen alive in 1999)
Oh don't even get me started there... Hey you want to study this rare, unique, scientifically and ecologically important creature? Lol fuck you, maybe snorting the last of its species will make my dick bigger.
No, that's the main issue really. New species are discovered all the time, but they're mostly invertibrates, amphibians, small reptiles and fish. It would be a hell of a feat for a large species of ape to remain totally undiscovered. Given how long the Bigfoot myth has been alive, to not even have found remains isn't promising. But strainger things have happened.
Jersey Devil was an interesting story of a side show tourist trap and an actual story that happened. The monster image obviously comes from the "Stitched together animal thing" however there was a case back in 1954 about a family who lived out in the woods, and had some fucked up hillbilly retard babies with severe physical deformities. One of these children was extremely aggressive, and is the initial reason behind the attack and myth. There was indeed a manhunt and the "freak" children were killed off because, hey, it was the 50's man. However, there are some rumors about some of the non freak members going on and living in society. However, its all up to personal belief when it comes to that end. Some say that the manhunt ended with burning the entire woodland house down, sparing no one.
Ogopogo however is a fucking palesiosaur.
Wendigo was an old Native American folklore tale to prevent cannibalism. However, it was most likely another genetically deformed human that managed somehow to live for a bit, scaring the shit out of others.
Thunderbird was a really big bird from back in the 1800's. Long dead now.
Altamaha-ha, abnormally large newt.
Swamp Ape, Sassy, Mogolion Monster. Believe it or not, there is (or at least was) a very small Ape population in the US until the late 80's.
>>2063797 >Jersey Devil was an interesting story of a side show tourist trap and an actual story that happened. The monster image obviously comes from the "Stitched together animal thing" however there was a case back in 1954 about a family who lived out in the woods, and had some fucked up hillbilly retard babies with severe physical deformities. One of these children was extremely aggressive, and is the initial reason behind the attack and myth. There was indeed a manhunt and the "freak" children were killed off because, hey, it was the 50's man. However, there are some rumors about some of the non freak members going on and living in society. However, its all up to personal belief when it comes to that end. Some say that the manhunt ended with burning the entire woodland house down, sparing no one. Holy fuck that is the wrongest thing ever to be wrong. The Leeds family were in fact real people but they weren't some rural deformed hillbillies. Daniel leads was a publicist and heavily involved with politics. He died in 1720. I don't know where the fuck you got the 50s from when this myth is far older.
One of the big reasons there haven't been many sightings is probably because almost everyone carries cameras with them now. If they can't provide proof even with something so convenient, they know there's little chance they'll be taken seriously.
But anyway: If I was in a position where it's not going to kill me, I'd take a picture. Anything else would probably result in me running away or being killed.
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