>Complaining about dog breeds being inbred >This thread >mfw
ALL pure breeds are fucking inbred. Every pure breed is a torture breed. Because guess fucking what, all pure breeds have shit genetic diversity. So stop fighting over which breeds are better, because if you support any pure breed, you're supporting unhealthy, inbred torture breeds.
Just enjoy fucking dogs instead of bitching, jeez.
yeah i'm sure you liked him, my s/o liked his pug too whereas i cared about her in the sense that i lived with her for a decade but other than that nah...
i just don't care for their personalities (they're mostly just lazy, and disgusting about food), the way that they look, or the constant noise... people who like them really like them, but i've never found them appealing, and the health issues are fucking horrible to witness as they age (they start to head downhill pretty young too) to the point where even my s/o would never want another (thankfully)
>>2037949 >TFW you want to beat a child to death with a hammer >TFW you check to see if there's any chance the tortoise survived and the first result is another story about people in Florida dumping boxes of baby tortoises over the side of a boat thinking they were sea turtles
>>2039437 How do people get this to happen? Same with pugs or whatever breed. I would assume you couldn't just have the dog wear a device that would deform it, since it wouldn't be genetic the offspring wouldn't have it.
>>2039457 Selective breeding. You can see that the slope of the muzzle is already shallow, even in the 1915 picture. The people in charge of the breed clubs decide that this is a characteristic trait of bull terriers, which means that it's one of the main traits that judges look for in shows. The dog who wins the show is likely to have that trait more strongly pronounced than other dogs, and that that dog is going to be in higher demand for breeding, because his or her genes contain the "desirable traits." Same thing happens with the pups, and their pups, etc. Kennel clubs and breed clubs usually don't have any sense of an "upper limit" on what's considered desirable, so whichever dog has the most exaggerated feature (in this case anteater face) is going to be considered the "most" bull terrier. Very selectively picking out the eggiest heads and breeding them together over and over again means that, over the course of sixty years (as much as thirty or forty generations of dogs), you get some really fugly results.
>>2038596 Teenage girls and all my friends before I made them have better opinions. >>2039175 I feel the same way about bostons. Both of them are such friendly dogs, it makes me sad but mostly filled with endless firey rage that they have to suffer. It makes me even angrier that people support cruelty because "It's cute!" >>2039725 Designer breeds made for money. These still require actual pugs and are bred 100% by assholes looking for money. >>2039751 Being predisposed to hip dysplasia isn't the same as purposely breeding a dog that cannot breathe, eat, or cool down properly. One is bad breeding, the other is outright cruelty.
>>2040394 I wouldn't really expect a layperson to be able to tell whether an animal was a turtle or tortoise just by looking at it, but that really isn't the issue. It's that the braindead cunts fucking toss the damn thing into a river like dropping garbage off at the goddamn dump. I mean what the fuck?
>>2039434 Actually why the fuck throw it in the water? It's not a fucking fish. It lives of oxygen. If is not on the water, you dont want to be in the fucking water. But then again the bou in the picture clearly was a landwhale, so, yeah...
>>2041370 >facebook/yousignorg/videos/790575204348863/ i don't like cats and that video pissed me right off
i used to look after little boys, the youngest was about that age.. i would bring my pet rats sometimes for something to do.. i would never leave a baby alone with an animal but you can help them learn to be kind and gentle at any age >: cunt mother i hope she gets rekt
>>2041370 I went into this thinking that surely, you were overreacting, as many do when animals and kids are involved. Maybe the kid had grabbed the kitten too roughly or something, and the video would be short so that the mother could rescue it and teach "gentle touch". You were not.
Growing up (before the internet - I know I know, just imagine!!) I didn't hear or see a lot of "OMG CUTE PUGS" like common on Facebook and Imgur and whatever else today. And quite honestly, I'm stunned by it. When the subject of Pugs came up to anyone in me or my family bask in the day, we were quick to point out that none of us would ever want a freaky looking snot-snout dog with a smashed-in face, repulsive buggy eyes, and asshole showing out under it's tail curling up. I think it was my dad that said, "I can't decide what's uglier on a pug, the back end or the front".
How did this happen?!?
I'm glad for the anons that pointed out the breathing problems and such that they have due to breeding them to being this cute/ugly. Wasn't aware of that before.
>>2042466 Neapolitan Mastiff I believe. Looks like someone bred too much and made the skin far too wrankly. Could also be some sort of growth issue, judging by how the top flap of skin doesn't wrinkle at all and just flops over.
>>2037962 I just googled an Exotic Bully, that's probably the saddest breed I've ever seen. It's like the worst of English Bulldogs and the worst of pugs smashed together with an inbred Pit to create a dog doomed to die a painful death due to it's fucked up body. Holy shit I hate people. You look at things like pugs, they've got a fucked up face but other than that, fine bodies. but this thing? Holy shit, I bet it can't even run straight. I hate people.
A missing dog from my town was found this week in a river with a bag tied around her head. She was a beautiful grey mastiff looking thing and had a 3 grand reward being offered for her return. Pakis, I promise.
>How 3rd world countries treat and view animals is very different from 1st world countries.
Gross overgeneralization to group entire countries into "first world" and "third world" and then imply the first world countries treat the animals better.
India is the country with the highest percentage of vegetarians. Some people somehow try to say "Yeah well that's because of religion"--so what? Religion is a huge part of culture. Indian culture is shaped by Hinduism, Jainism, and Buddhism (though the Muslims all but killed Buddhism in India, it's making a resurgence). Indian culture and ethics in India tie in with religion, just as was the case in the Western world up until very recently.
Also in India, the Jains built a hospital for injured rats.
You can't just act like "first world" people coddle animals and "third world" people are all business and treat them like shit.
Americans involved in puppy mills, factory farms, etc. treat animals way worse than "third world" Jains or Buddhists in India.
Another thing. Some people in China ("second world" country but whatever) sell aquatic animals like fish and turtles trapped in plastic, and eventually those animals suffocate or starve and die. It's fucked up.
10-15 years ago the same kind of shit was happening with the "Aquababy" fad here in the US, where fish or other water creatures would be sold in tiny boxes that were completely unsuitable for them.
And here in the US in addition to factory farms and puppy mills and pet abuse, we have shit like rattlesnake rodeos in Alabama and canned hunts (especially pigeon shoots) in Pennsylvania.
>>2043660 yeah well Indians also have issues when it comes to the whole "don't rape women at any chance and also treat them like human beings" thing, as well as the "please poop in the toilet" concept.
Come back to us when there are no more designated shitting streets, rajeet
>India also has a massive problem with raping everything that moves and shitting in toilets.
And America has a problem with mass shootings. Your point?
The point I was making is that there are "third world" people who care about animals a lot more than some "first world" people do, and you can't generalize and say that "first world" people are soft animal-coddlers and "third world" people just see animals as tools and are okay with animal abuse.
That was literally my only point. If you want to rag on India find a different thread.
>>2047056 There's a big difference between lrtting your unneutered cats out in a preserved area or an environment that never had these kind of predators and letting your neutered cat out in a urban area where the only aviable prey are synanthropic species that aren't endangered at all and used to predators like cats and foxes.
>>2039519 Certain pure breed dogs are prone to more health issues than others. German shepherds for example really only have 2 major issues to watch for. Hip dysplasia being one, which with careful breeding(make sure parents didn't have it) and proper nutrition can be avoided. Another is gastric dilatation volvulus (bloat). Which can be avoided with proper food particle size, proper food portions, managing stress letting food settle before exercising and is less likely as the dog reaches or exceeds 50lbs. The rest are just allergies and such.
Some breeds have congenial heart disease and cancer as their main health issue, which there really isn't much you can do about it other than give then vitamins and hope for the best.
>>2050302 There's a glitch with the PPH count, but the site itself is pretty dead. /v/ on there is run by a hotpocket who instead of banning Gamergoy discussion, he just bans whatever he wants, usually anti-Nintendo and anti-weeb posters/threads. Horrible fucking board. /pol/ and /tg/ on there are really good though.
>>2043458 I have no idea why people don't give a shit about their cats welfare or the local ecosystem and let their pets outside. It's animal neglect. People who do it say it's because their cats get bored inside, but it just seems like they're too lazy or broke to walk them on a harness, or build a cat run or fence that'll hold a cat. Intellectually stimulating your pet is part of taking proper care of it. It's no secret that letting your pet out puts them in danger. Poor thing has to suffer at its owners negligence
>>2052323 some people think having 3 or 4 years outside then getting killed by a car or coyote is better than 15 years constantly inside if their cat wants to get out.
although, there is probably some other underlying cause like the cat isn't fixed and wants to go out and get laid.
also, some people get cats to take care of rodents/rabbits/"pests" like that living outside. My parents' have a cat that lives only outside except in the winter. the thing is like 25 pounds, it's pretty badass. would definitely fuck up a fox or something.
>>2052353 I understand the rationale behind it being a bad thing, yes. Humans acting like the world is just for us. Like sharing a 5 bedroom house with 5 people, only 4 of the people have to share one bedroom and aren't welcome in the other parts of the house.
we can argue all we want, neither of us has the cat with us to look at, but I'm pretty sure a 25 pound cat would fuck up a 12 pound fox.
>>2038236 >step-mom made my dad shell out $900 for a pure bred english bullterrier because 'omgz he looks like snoopy lol ^_^' >of course nobody bothers to research the breed and realize just how much attention and socialization he needs >he's cute as a puppy of course but the kids get bored with him after three weeks because milennial child smartphone-induced ADHD >months go by and he's left to develop under his own devices, crammed into a small dog run in their tiny backyard alone all day, never getting a walk >my dad tries his best to walk him when he's not getting ball blasted at a 12 hour shift at work all day. He didn't even want a dog and my step mom stopped giving a shit a long time ago too >fast-forward to present day, dog is fraught with behavioral problems >barks at and bites absolutely everyone that is not my dad >plays WAY too rough for anyone to handle; dog's idea of a good time is smashing his rock-solid rabbit cranium into anyone vulnerable until they fall down and then puppy-biting into their flesh way too hard once they're on the ground because he doesn't know any better >eats rats >eats skunks >eats rattlesnakes >tried to eat my dog, who was twice his size (rottwieler) left a big chunk in my fella that got infected really bad >worships satan >nobody can get near him without getting seriously injured unless you're 6'2" and 270lbs like my father
pic related is an example of some of the shenanigans he can get into every time he figures out a new way to escape
I feel bad for him. He would be great dog given that he clearly doesn't afraid of anything but he is absolutely not approachable. I've tried interacting with him but he ended up charging straight for me, teeth bared and all so I had to act fast and punch him straight in the nose and pin him to the ground and just sort of sit there on top of him for 30 minutes until my dad got home so he wouldn't escape and maul anyone going for a walk. Ruined my favorite fucking dress doing that.
>>2046540 Not the other guy. I had a hunter way growing up. He was amazing, so friendly and obedient with next to no training. He just chased balls all day and followed you when you walked him. Such a great mate. Still have his ashes in a box 9 years later. Funny is he looked hunter way but I always thought he was cross with a kelpie. Then again they are such a genetically wide breed.
This girl refuse to get a companion for her rat because she claim she give her enough interaction and apparently the rat she had before lived to be six yrs old. She is a firm believer that "all they need is love" and you know, whatever happen is just god's will.
Her rat will live on cuteness and pink fleece I guess.
>>2052701 Make it a meter higher, surround more than 2000 m^2 and don't have any doors. Also you can't have big trees because cats would use it to get over the fence. Then I could hope that my cat doesn't get through anyway.
>>2052716 In order to make this work I would need to cut down like 6 trees that my cat could use to get out and almost all of my hedge. I would destroy more ecosystem with that than my cats ever could. My garden is home for all kinds of birds, butterflies, bugs, rodents and flora and my cats only kill like one mouse or bird per week. I probably eat more animals than that aswell. Of course bringing animals like cats, frogs, bees or whatever to another continent will change the system but what if they were there in one form or the other for a long time?
You've clearly not spent enough time around cats to know a damn thing about them.
Outdoor cats are happier creatures, period. Indoor/contained cats are hyper-skittish little shitstains, with miserable personalities that are a perfect match only for the miserable aging single women who keep them. The possibility of living slightly longer is just part of their torture.
>>2054591 That's because you, like me, live in an area where people don't really give a shit about their cats, think of them as disposable and are completely unwilling to spend any money on them. Keeping your cat indoors is better for you - no dead animals everywhere, less risk of it dragging parasites with it into your home, better for your cat - less likely to get diseases, injuries, getting pregnant or getting other cats pregnant (people with outdoor cats often don't spay or neuter it), or being hit by a car and dying). Most outdoor cat owners don't really care about that though because they don't really care about their cats.
>>2054594 Declawing isn't the same as trimming claws. Trimming claws is like cutting your nails, declawing is like cutting off your finger.
>>2052716 >A domestic cat and a lynx are different The cats he talks about are Felis sylvestris sylvestris, a native feral cat in europe (but it's not the origin of the domestic cats, that would be the african version, F. felis lybica). They were nearly extict once but their numbers are slowly increasing again.
But even so, there are places like some islands where native feral cats or foxes weren't a thing for a long time and problems occur. Populations of stray cats are also a problem and I really don't understand why it's still allowed to let your cat outside unneutered, at least in most parts of germany.
>>2043458 I remember when I was a kid, the house a few doors down had kittens. They left the kittens outside all the time, and when one of them wondered onto the neighbor front lawn, he'd shoot them with an air soft gun.
>>2052736 They're hyper skittish shitstains if you can't bother to actually play with them, which is kind of important when it comes to taking care of an animal. You can't give something clean bowls of food and water, and a place to sleep and expect them to be healthy or satisfied
>living slightly longer Outdoor cats live 3-5 years on average and indoor cats live 12-20. That's a bit bigger of a difference than "slightly". Sorry that you don't care about your cat to the point where you don't give a shit if it dies
>>2054735 Not the person you're replying to, but I keep my cat inside and trim his nails and I very compliments on his temperament. He's relaxed and enjoys being around people, although he isn't the super friendly type and won't go up to you but will let you come up to him. He's rather active for an 11 year old, and requires several hours of play a day, and he enjoys spending time outside in his cat run where he gets to watch the wildlife without the danger of letting him outside
Most outdoor cats I've met are cunts that are aggressive and territorial, but maybe that's just because I haven't met enough cats that are let outdoors. The more calm ones I've met were very skittish and scared easily, though
>>2054978 My cat is let outside and is possibly the friendliest animal I've ever met. Has no fear of strangers inside the house (will jump on their laps for attention) and can basically never get enough attention. Of anything, I kinda wish she was less affectionate, jumping on me in the middle of the night
>>2040532 Something similar happened to me. One of my old friends, who I no longer even speak with, stomped on a turtle and a frog at his birthday birthday party. (10th grade) I was so shaken. I couldn't believe it. I ran inside and told his mom and she ran outside in her nightgown and hair in those curl things and she beat the hell out of him in front of everybody
>>2054634 How does this happen? Honestly asking. I don't know much about breeding, etc. I'm guessing the pictures on the left were from the early to mid 1900''s and the right pics are 2000's? That is honestly disappointing.
>>2054978 Have you met them outdoors or indoors? My cat isn't scared at all indoors, loves to be carried upside down and every stranger is allowed to pet her. But outside she's really careful, doesn't really like to be carried at all, and just our neighbors and family members can even go near her. Maybe because she was a stray and has had some unfriendly encouters. I've also met outdoor cats who really like to be petted by strangers and kinda demand it, too.It's cute but could be a little dangerous for them.
It's no wonder your cat is nice because you play with him and he even has a cat run. The only shitty indoor cats I know have shitty owners who treat them like a house plant and don't really care about their needs besides medical attention and food. Same goes for outdoor cats, too, but I guess they can still get some attention or entertainment outside. Some owners tend to just put them outside if they want to play so these cats just see humans as a source of food.
>>2056281 >thinking cats are an invasive species outside australia, whose ecosystem has been completely fucked up by the aborigenals anyway Eurasia, Africa and the Americas all have numerous species of wild cats and Australia also used to have predators in that niche, if anything we should introduce something to fill the hole left by the extinct marsupial predators and take care of all the unruly emus and kangaroos and so on.
>>2056281 >>2056323 In addition, advocating the killing on sight of unguarded family pets has nothing to do with invasive species being bad and everything to do with a portion of /an/ being autistic psychopaths.
>>2056328 It's legal to kill invasive species on sight in many places. Your argument is full of holes. Rats fill in the same niches as other animals, which is part of what makes them so destructive in some places. They out breed then out compete native animals, then spread disease. It's legal to kill rats on sight, and starlings as well. Feral cats are an invasive species. Just because some of them are tame enough to interact with humans doesn't make them have special status. They compete with wild bobcats, destroy bird and lizard populations, and generally fuck with the ecosystem.
I like cats too but when there was an epidemic of feral dogs we killed em and made leash laws. In my area, those laws apply to cats.
I'd love it if people had to keep their cats inside or on a leash/in an enclosed outdoor environment. Then I'd see less dead cats on the road and less cardinal and warbler heads and feet in my backyard and on my walks. I would only stop my blue heeler and border collie from killing a cat in my yard to save them from the chance of having an eye scratched.
Cats aren't that special. Idiots who don't spay and neuter their outdoor cats or give them a bell to at least try to protect the birds deserve to lose their animals.
>>2037949 Oh oh! I've got a brand new story, this happened 15 minutes ago. >get home with groceries, open the door >set them on the counter, go back to close the door, mom also got up to help put it away >a fucking cat waltz' in >goes to my parrots cage >looks up at him, gets closer >mom yells because a fucking black and white thing is in the house, worried it was a skunk for a second >cat jogs from her towards the door as if resigning to staying near there so it doesn't get shit, goes near where I am, right next to the door >DEUSVULT.jpg >yell at the arrogant cunt, corral it outside with my shoed foot, resisting the extreme urge to kick the fucker >hiss at it a bit because fuck it that might help >instantly remember to close the screen, fucker is waiting to sneak back in >stomp in front of it to get the point across, corral it past our doorway into the bushes, yell at more If it had attacked my bird I'd have kicked it across the room, no regrets. Fucking outdoor cats, I swear, and their owners aren't much better for letting the things wander around. Almost kicked the thing and they probably proudly mention they let their cat have "freedom" outside.
>>2042429 Some Africans rape babies to get rid of their AIDS, is that ok because they're Africans? >not the same Injuring and assaulting something small that can't defend itself, yeah it's pretty close.
>>2056912 I live in a suburban area on the fringe of the city, the cats aren't anywhere near close enough to the bushland though Do they still pose a threat to any native wildlife? I have seen no animals except other cats, dogs and the occasional bird around here.
>>2056915 Different anon, but: If your cat does something stupid or ballsy they could get really hurt. Like I said here >>2056907 I'd rather kick a strange cat, than let it attack my pet. It almost came to that, but luckily it didn't. I'd say the risk isn't worth it. You could still have a place to let the hang out like a porch or backyard if you really want to, but only if you're around to keep an eye on them. Cats can be raised to prefer inside to whatever level, so it just depends on what you're ok with. But this is why I couldn't have a cat, aside from allergies, is I either keep em inside but idiots will rant at me, or I let them run free but they could die terribly. I'll stick with my parrot or a dog.
>>2056931 Thanks anon. They have a decent backdoor area and tend to stick around there a lot when they're not inside. However, they do travel around a little bit like the other cats in the neighbourhood, but I've never seen them on the road or directly on the driveway.
>>2038251 I own a purebred dog >The median longevity of Koolies is about 18 years, which is a typical lifespan for this breed. Koolies have a diverse gene pool and so do not suffer from the many genetic problems found in recognised breeds
We also had an extremely healthy purebred lab who lived to 16 (her mother lived to 15)
>>2057674 What is thylacine? And arguably Thylacoleo, Megalania, Quincana, at lest 3 different species of thnderbirds which might have been carnivorous and some others. And why not introduce Tasmanian devils into australia, they are strong enough to eat cats and foxes.
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