Rage thread?

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Rage thread

>>2037949
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHk_rTna4CI

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>>2037949
>Aww, pugs are so cute!
>omgggg!!!! pugs!!!!! xD
>omg I want one!
>pls buy me one!
>I know they aren't healthy, but they're just sooo cute!

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>>2038178
Don't bump things after three fucking minutes. It's not necessary. /an/ isn't a fast board, stop being so impatient.

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>>2038182
Fuck your shit anon, pugs are great.

Go back to fapping over whatever inbred shit breed is your favorite.

>>2038182
Everybody who's had a pug knows they have the best personalities.

>>2038190
>pugs are great.
>>2038193
>Everybody who's had a pug knows they have the best personalities.

Do you anons really think that people who dislike pugs as a breed do so because they dislike the animals themselves?

If you give a shit about how your pet feels, you shouldn't get a torture breed.

>>2038190
>pugs are great.
>Go back to fapping over whatever inbred shit breed is your favorite.
>inbred shit

Pugs are one of the most inbred breeds that are you delusional faggot.

>I only liek le dogs becuz they look funy guise xD

>>2038190
>>2038193

> I support degenerative breeds

>>2038184
this thread was on the third page when i bumped it

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>>2038190
If you like pugs get one of the healty ones, not the torture lines

http://pedigreedogsexposed.blogspot.mx/2010/12/pugs-lets-face-it.html

http://biologyweeps.tumblr.com/post/65041677238/so-you-think-pugs-are-cute

>>2037964
>americans

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>>2038182
How does /an/ feel about Bull Terriers since they're also inbred as fuck but not nearly as unhealthy?

>>2038229
That's a Mexican. Das it mane.

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>>2038236
The show dogs are shit

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>Complaining about dog breeds being inbred
>This thread
>mfw

ALL pure breeds are fucking inbred. Every pure breed is a torture breed. Because guess fucking what, all pure breeds have shit genetic diversity. So stop fighting over which breeds are better, because if you support any pure breed, you're supporting unhealthy, inbred torture breeds.

Just enjoy fucking dogs instead of bitching, jeez.

>>2038251
> being this misinformed

>>2038251
Not sure if you're trolling.

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>>2038223
>He thinks healthy breeds are a thing

>>2038193

my s/o had a pug his mom got at a shelter for 14 years... she was obnoxious, and gross... i've been around other pugs as well, they don't have great personalities at all...

>>2038182
>>I know they aren't healthy, but they're just sooo cute!
Whay kind of people say this shit

>>2038282
My dad had one when I was little and he was the best! When I was tiny a man tried to take me from the front yard and Rocky ran him off and chased him for like 7 blocks

>>2038616
> being scared of a pug

>>2037962
Is that a pug-pit bull mix?

>>2038621
It's an Exotic Bully.

They don't have a very good life expectancy.

>>2038236
Brian?

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>>2038617
anon sure was a tiny child, living in a neighbrohood with tiny people

>>2038616

yeah i'm sure you liked him, my s/o liked his pug too whereas i cared about her in the sense that i lived with her for a decade but other than that nah...

i just don't care for their personalities (they're mostly just lazy, and disgusting about food), the way that they look, or the constant noise... people who like them really like them, but i've never found them appealing, and the health issues are fucking horrible to witness as they age (they start to head downhill pretty young too) to the point where even my s/o would never want another (thankfully)

>>2037964
>kills
It's seen on the land at the end of the full video

>>2038777
That's the full video.

>>2038190
>Fuck your shit anon, pugs are great.
>posts a picture of a pug looking (being) retarded because lol so funy Xd

Every single time

>>2038777
that didn´t happened

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>>2037949
>TFW you want to beat a child to death with a hammer
>TFW you check to see if there's any chance the tortoise survived and the first result is another story about people in Florida dumping boxes of baby tortoises over the side of a boat thinking they were sea turtles

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>>2038182
This is what they used to look like.
>just fuck my shit up

>>2038251
>Just enjoy fucking dogs
2x4chan has a zoophilia board m8

>>2039163
>people that make honest mistakes need to die


Aspie.

https://youtu.be/CnSAvOVifpU

Take care of your dogs.

>>2039325
Honest mistakes, no.
Not knowing something as common as the difference between a tortoise and a sea turtle, yes. That's 5th grade knowledge.

>>2039385
Not really. Only an aspie would know that.

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>>2038236
Tragic story, what happened to them.

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>>2038190
>>2038193
Sure, looks good to me, mang.

>>2039437
How do people get this to happen? Same with pugs or whatever breed. I would assume you couldn't just have the dog wear a device that would deform it, since it wouldn't be genetic the offspring wouldn't have it.

>>2039457
Get desirable mutation. Find a mate with desirable mutation. Have litter. Get puppy with best form of desirable mutation. Find mate -- or just inbreed. TAAADA

>>2038251
Yes, because these dogs look soooo unhealthy to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDaMdkrDXKE

>>2039457
Selective breeding. You can see that the slope of the muzzle is already shallow, even in the 1915 picture. The people in charge of the breed clubs decide that this is a characteristic trait of bull terriers, which means that it's one of the main traits that judges look for in shows. The dog who wins the show is likely to have that trait more strongly pronounced than other dogs, and that that dog is going to be in higher demand for breeding, because his or her genes contain the "desirable traits." Same thing happens with the pups, and their pups, etc. Kennel clubs and breed clubs usually don't have any sense of an "upper limit" on what's considered desirable, so whichever dog has the most exaggerated feature (in this case anteater face) is going to be considered the "most" bull terrier.
Very selectively picking out the eggiest heads and breeding them together over and over again means that, over the course of sixty years (as much as thirty or forty generations of dogs), you get some really fugly results.

>>2038223
what about pug mixes like puggles or chuggles or whatever bullshit name they use?

>>2039380
oh god why am I so entranced by this it's so satisfying to watch

I'm fucking drooling what the shit

>>2039725
No. Jyst stop.

>>2039519
looking healthy isn't the same as being healthy, dumbass

>>2038596
Teenage girls and all my friends before I made them have better opinions. >>2039175
I feel the same way about bostons. Both of them are such friendly dogs, it makes me sad but mostly filled with endless firey rage that they have to suffer. It makes me even angrier that people support cruelty because "It's cute!" >>2039725
Designer breeds made for money. These still require actual pugs and are bred 100% by assholes looking for money.
>>2039751
Being predisposed to hip dysplasia isn't the same as purposely breeding a dog that cannot breathe, eat, or cool down properly. One is bad breeding, the other is outright cruelty.

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>>2039814
Wow, I fucked up that formatting somehow. Anyway, have more cruelty as a result of human apathy.

>>2038190
There's just something so appealing about a dog whose eyes could potentially pop out. I've always wanted a pirate dog.

Why did this suddenly turn into a conversation about pugs

>>2039944
Because idiots use xDd and >

>>2039434

Not being a moron makes you an aspie?

>>2039437
damn thats a freaky looking skull

>>2040407
looks like my ball sack

>>2038193
2/10 but I bait...

all people with downs syndrome I know also have happy great personalilties... dosent make them healthy or good for breeding.....

>>2037949
I watched my friend impale a turtle on a iron rod after melting its face with a lighter. I'm not proud of it but it happened.

>>2040407
what happened here?

>>2037963
>>2037962
Poor thing can't even stay upright. Why the hell is this desirable

>>2040539
Animal abuse in the form of breeding.

>>2040532
Faces don't melt.

>>2040595
you're right, what actually happened was much worse.

>>2039815
Here, have a few more.

https://dogbehaviorscience.wordpress.com/2012/09/29/100-years-of-breed-improvement/

>>2040394
I wouldn't really expect a layperson to be able to tell whether an animal was a turtle or tortoise just by looking at it, but that really isn't the issue. It's that the braindead cunts fucking toss the damn thing into a river like dropping garbage off at the goddamn dump. I mean what the fuck?

>>2039434
Dude, turtles have fins. Tortoises have pawns; with fucking nails on it. You don't need to be a bloody biologist to spot the fucking difference.

>>2040532
Murder your ''friend'' before he kills again.

>>2039434
Actually why the fuck throw it in the water? It's not a fucking fish. It lives of oxygen. If is not on the water, you dont want to be in the fucking water. But then again the bou in the picture clearly was a landwhale, so, yeah...

>>2040634
>Turtles have fins. Tortoises have pawns; with fucking nails on it.
????

>>2040634
Also, aquatic tortoises and turtles usually have a more flattened shell while normal tortoises don't.
Sorry if I mixed the terms, our language has only one word for testudines.

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>>2040634
> turtles have fins

>>2040650
Apparentely yes, like I said there is only a word or to name all testudines. And even when we have a word for terrapins we call them "turtles" anyway

>>2040660
Not every language has those distinctions tho.
Spanish for instance:

>Tortoise= tortuga
>Turtle= tortuga (marina)
>Terrapin= galápago or tortuga (acuática)

>>2040660
>you might as well call all of them turtle.
that's what I do. tortoises are a kind of turtle and terrapin is a common name.

>>2040739
>phenotype=habitat

>>2040794
I think he was mocking you.

we all know phenotype isn't habitat, you're the one that seems confuzzled.

>>2040799
>the people who don't know.
like you 15 minutes ago?

>>2037949
Theres always that one person who loves all animals but hates spiders because "They might be dangerous"

>>2041276
I hate spiders because they're leggy. I've let a tarantula climb me once ,and that's more than enough.

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>facebook/yousignorg/videos/790575204348863/
>Video of a toddler picking and hitting a small kitten.
>Mother only giggles while filming it.

Call me a faggot, but I couldn't stand to see the video at least 2 seconds before to pause it and wanting to punch a wall.

>>2041370
>facebook/yousignorg/videos/790575204348863/
i don't like cats and that video pissed me right off

i used to look after little boys, the youngest was about that age.. i would bring my pet rats sometimes for something to do.. i would never leave a baby alone with an animal but you can help them learn to be kind and gentle at any age >:
cunt mother i hope she gets rekt

>>2041370
Boys will be boys

>>2041370
I went into this thinking that surely, you were overreacting, as many do when animals and kids are involved. Maybe the kid had grabbed the kitten too roughly or something, and the video would be short so that the mother could rescue it and teach "gentle touch". You were not.

I'm sorry I doubted you, anon. That was awful.

>>2041370
>>2042401
>>2042426

It's called culture shock. How 3rd world countries treat and view animals is very different from 1st world countries. It's 2016.

>>2040407
>>2040411
Looks more vagina than ballsack to me.

>>2038193
And I know my airedale has the best personality.

Fuck off, if you cared about dogs you wouldnt support the continued breeding of an unhealthy, inbred, degenerate breed

>>2042434
my friend you need to look at nicer pussies

>>2038182
>>2038190
>>2038193

Growing up (before the internet - I know I know, just imagine!!) I didn't hear or see a lot of "OMG CUTE PUGS" like common on Facebook and Imgur and whatever else today. And quite honestly, I'm stunned by it.
When the subject of Pugs came up to anyone in me or my family bask in the day, we were quick to point out that none of us would ever want a freaky looking snot-snout dog with a smashed-in face, repulsive buggy eyes, and asshole showing out under it's tail curling up.
I think it was my dad that said, "I can't decide what's uglier on a pug, the back end or the front".

How did this happen?!?

I'm glad for the anons that pointed out the breathing problems and such that they have due to breeding them to being this cute/ugly. Wasn't aware of that before.

>>2042460
I've seen all kinds, my friend. All kinds. Mostly really old ones. I'm a nurse.
(I also happen to have one of my own.) ;)

Was just being silly, anyway. I like when 4chan makes me laugh.

Anyway, what IS up with that wrinkly dog >>2040407 ?
It almost looks some type of growth issue or cancerous problem. I hope it's not a breed but an accident, or something.

>>2039163

>run it is course

Come on.

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>>2042466
Neapolitan Mastiff I believe.
Looks like someone bred too much and made the skin far too wrankly.
Could also be some sort of growth issue, judging by how the top flap of skin doesn't wrinkle at all and just flops over.

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>>2042429
>3rd world countries
>culture

>>2037962
I just googled an Exotic Bully, that's probably the saddest breed I've ever seen. It's like the worst of English Bulldogs and the worst of pugs smashed together with an inbred Pit to create a dog doomed to die a painful death due to it's fucked up body. Holy shit I hate people. You look at things like pugs, they've got a fucked up face but other than that, fine bodies. but this thing? Holy shit, I bet it can't even run straight. I hate people.

>>2039438
I agree that Pugs are an unhealthy breed but this is pretty nitpicky

>>2042466
me too which is probably why I rushed to defend pussy! I'll admit I haven't seen old lady bits.

>>2042587
They can barely even hold their heads up. The leash is always pulling up, or there is a hand holding the head, in most of those pictures

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>>2042429
>>2042473
>2016
>3rd world countries

tbqh senpai nobody cares what side country was on during the cold war

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUR0f-l9oE4

>>2042967
Holy shit just leave him alone for a second
They're gonna traumatize the poor dog even more than he already is

>>2042987
Did you watch the whole thing? She turned out fine.

>>2041370
Punch a wall you big girl. The vid was cool, any longer versions?

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>>2040644
>>2040655
Yes, sea turtles (the kind he's talking about if you read the comment chain) have find/flippers

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>>2042967
That's just sad.

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>>2037949
I want whoever did this to suffer. Seriously who shoots a cat with a pellet gun? WTF is wrong with some people? That poor thing I hope its owner wasn't a poorfag and took it to the vet.

>>2041836
I fucking lost sleep over this one i was so mad

>>2043458
Shoot to kill not mane

A missing dog from my town was found this week in a river with a bag tied around her head. She was a beautiful grey mastiff looking thing and had a 3 grand reward being offered for her return. Pakis, I promise.

>>2040621

HOW ABOUT SEEING WHETHER IS HAS FLIPPERS OR FUCKING FEET YOU PIECE OF SHIT I THINK THAT WOULD BE A CLEAR INDICATION YOU SHIT

>>2043458

why was the cat outside?

>>2042429

>How 3rd world countries treat and view animals is very different from 1st world countries.

Gross overgeneralization to group entire countries into "first world" and "third world" and then imply the first world countries treat the animals better.

India is the country with the highest percentage of vegetarians. Some people somehow try to say "Yeah well that's because of religion"--so what? Religion is a huge part of culture. Indian culture is shaped by Hinduism, Jainism, and Buddhism (though the Muslims all but killed Buddhism in India, it's making a resurgence). Indian culture and ethics in India tie in with religion, just as was the case in the Western world up until very recently.

Also in India, the Jains built a hospital for injured rats.

You can't just act like "first world" people coddle animals and "third world" people are all business and treat them like shit.

Americans involved in puppy mills, factory farms, etc. treat animals way worse than "third world" Jains or Buddhists in India.

>>2043592
victim blaming

>>2043660
But can they poo in loo?

>>2043660

Another thing. Some people in China ("second world" country but whatever) sell aquatic animals like fish and turtles trapped in plastic, and eventually those animals suffocate or starve and die. It's fucked up.

10-15 years ago the same kind of shit was happening with the "Aquababy" fad here in the US, where fish or other water creatures would be sold in tiny boxes that were completely unsuitable for them.

And here in the US in addition to factory farms and puppy mills and pet abuse, we have shit like rattlesnake rodeos in Alabama and canned hunts (especially pigeon shoots) in Pennsylvania.

>>2043663

>implying outdoor cats can be victims

>>2037949
Sorry but I actually thought this was funny. I mean I feel sorry for the tortoise but that's still a comical image.

>>2040532
>friend
So he was no longer your friend at that precise moment in time, right?

>>2040532
HOLY SHIT, FUCKING BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THEM CALL THE FUCKING COPS FOR ANIMAL ABUSE.

I AM FUCKING ANGRY AS SHIT

>>2043670
>Cat privilege

>>2039175
Would totally own one of the original pugs. And definitely not those ugly inbred little shits people glorify nowadays.

>>2043458
What the fuck

>>2043458
I worked at a vet hospital. We got a kitten in that had been shot in the leg. The leg was amputated.

Very nice kitten. She belongs to one of the doctors now.

>>2040581
Dick waving through animals, that's why.

>>2042590
What's nitpicky about pointing out how blatantly unhealthy they are?

>>2044023
Google retromops. There's also plenty available for adoption that you could own and use to educate others.

>>2043592
>it's your fault cause you let it out
you're the one who shot the cat, aren't you?

>>2043660
>India also has a massive problem with raping everything that moves and shitting in toilets.

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>>2042429

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Always one of these faggots

>>2043660
yeah well Indians also have issues when it comes to the whole "don't rape women at any chance and also treat them like human beings" thing, as well as the "please poop in the toilet" concept.

Come back to us when there are no more designated shitting streets, rajeet

>>2037962
This shit is atrocious. I hope whoever breeds these poor guys dies horrible death.

>>2038251
The New Zealand Huntaway is a purebreed and has one of the largest genetic bases of any breed. Catch up or shut up

>>2046530
it's a working breed with no standard and no rules against outcrossing. That's not a "purebreed." There's nothing to keep it pure.

>>2046532
So "Pure" equals line bred and identical? Because I work Huntaways and we base them off of working ability over looks and they can easily be classified as a breed.

>>2043483
Oh my fucking god

>>2046540
you base them off of the dogs in your yard fucking eachother

>>2038629
O rly now

>>2045895
https://news.vice.com/article/one-of-the-worlds-biggest-extinction-crises-is-being-caused-by-cats
fuck your cat

>>2047056
This is why cats are fucking scum and why cat owners are retarded for selecting a garbage animal for a pet.

>>2042429
The "it's 2016" was a nice addition.

>>2045901

>India also has a massive problem with raping everything that moves and shitting in toilets.

And America has a problem with mass shootings. Your point?

The point I was making is that there are "third world" people who care about animals a lot more than some "first world" people do, and you can't generalize and say that "first world" people are soft animal-coddlers and "third world" people just see animals as tools and are okay with animal abuse.

That was literally my only point. If you want to rag on India find a different thread.

>>2037964
>throwing it like that
The bitch knew what she was doing.

>>2038193
Grew up with a pug.
Fucking hated the thing; still do.
Not that I treated her different; it's not her fault she is so disgusting and awful.

>>2042853
>it's a ninão thread

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>>2039306
kek 2x4chan has been dead for a while,
>not even on google
>homepage says "0 post made in the last hour"
dead

>>2042471
>wrankly
fucking kek'd

>>2047056
>Australia

stopped reading right there. who cares about that shitty hellhole

>>2047056
There's a big difference between lrtting your unneutered cats out in a preserved area or an environment that never had these kind of predators and letting your neutered cat out in a urban area where the only aviable prey are synanthropic species that aren't endangered at all and used to predators like cats and foxes.

>>2039519
Certain pure breed dogs are prone to more health issues than others. German shepherds for example really only have 2 major issues to watch for. Hip dysplasia being one, which with careful breeding(make sure parents didn't have it) and proper nutrition can be avoided. Another is gastric dilatation volvulus (bloat). Which can be avoided with proper food particle size, proper food portions, managing stress letting food settle before exercising and is less likely as the dog reaches or exceeds 50lbs. The rest are just allergies and such.

Some breeds have congenial heart disease and cancer as their main health issue, which there really isn't much you can do about it other than give then vitamins and hope for the best.

>>2040649
>>2040644
>>2040655
>>2040660
>>2043590

Brah turtles have fins, they swim. Tortoise have feet and nails, they dig. Anyone who throws an animal that clearly is not equipped for that environment into said environment is literally retarded.

>>2050302
There's a glitch with the PPH count, but the site itself is pretty dead. /v/ on there is run by a hotpocket who instead of banning Gamergoy discussion, he just bans whatever he wants, usually anti-Nintendo and anti-weeb posters/threads. Horrible fucking board.
/pol/ and /tg/ on there are really good though.

>>2051930
>But anon, some swimming breeds have feet too, how can you tell.

Are they webbed?

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>>2041370
I hope the ASPCA equivilant of that country takes that cat away.

>>2042405
Girls do the same, if not arguably worse, shit to pets.

>>2037964
hahahahahaha that splash/smack at the end.

>>2037949
anyone who names their dog "bailey" or "bella"

>>2043458
I have no idea why people don't give a shit about their cats welfare or the local ecosystem and let their pets outside. It's animal neglect. People who do it say it's because their cats get bored inside, but it just seems like they're too lazy or broke to walk them on a harness, or build a cat run or fence that'll hold a cat. Intellectually stimulating your pet is part of taking proper care of it. It's no secret that letting your pet out puts them in danger. Poor thing has to suffer at its owners negligence

>>2052323
>Intellectually stimulating your pet

>>2052323
some people think having 3 or 4 years outside then getting killed by a car or coyote is better than 15 years constantly inside if their cat wants to get out.

although, there is probably some other underlying cause like the cat isn't fixed and wants to go out and get laid.

also, some people get cats to take care of rodents/rabbits/"pests" like that living outside. My parents' have a cat that lives only outside except in the winter. the thing is like 25 pounds, it's pretty badass. would definitely fuck up a fox or something.

>>2052332
It is the pest. You and your parents are just too dumb to realize that.

>>2052336
I don't live with my parents, or even in the same state, and I never said I did, so I don't know where that came from.

you might notice pests was in quotations.

>>2052332

>would definitely fuck up a fox or something.

Doubt it. But even if it were true, do you not see that that's a bad thing?

>>2052353
I understand the rationale behind it being a bad thing, yes. Humans acting like the world is just for us. Like sharing a 5 bedroom house with 5 people, only 4 of the people have to share one bedroom and aren't welcome in the other parts of the house.

we can argue all we want, neither of us has the cat with us to look at, but I'm pretty sure a 25 pound cat would fuck up a 12 pound fox.

>>2052356
>cat owner logic

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>>2038236
>step-mom made my dad shell out $900 for a pure bred english bullterrier because 'omgz he looks like snoopy lol ^_^'
>of course nobody bothers to research the breed and realize just how much attention and socialization he needs
>he's cute as a puppy of course but the kids get bored with him after three weeks because milennial child smartphone-induced ADHD
>months go by and he's left to develop under his own devices, crammed into a small dog run in their tiny backyard alone all day, never getting a walk
>my dad tries his best to walk him when he's not getting ball blasted at a 12 hour shift at work all day. He didn't even want a dog and my step mom stopped giving a shit a long time ago too
>fast-forward to present day, dog is fraught with behavioral problems
>barks at and bites absolutely everyone that is not my dad
>plays WAY too rough for anyone to handle; dog's idea of a good time is smashing his rock-solid rabbit cranium into anyone vulnerable until they fall down and then puppy-biting into their flesh way too hard once they're on the ground because he doesn't know any better
>eats rats
>eats skunks
>eats rattlesnakes
>tried to eat my dog, who was twice his size (rottwieler) left a big chunk in my fella that got infected really bad
>worships satan
>nobody can get near him without getting seriously injured unless you're 6'2" and 270lbs like my father

pic related is an example of some of the shenanigans he can get into every time he figures out a new way to escape

I feel bad for him. He would be great dog given that he clearly doesn't afraid of anything but he is absolutely not approachable. I've tried interacting with him but he ended up charging straight for me, teeth bared and all so I had to act fast and punch him straight in the nose and pin him to the ground and just sort of sit there on top of him for 30 minutes until my dad got home so he wouldn't escape and maul anyone going for a walk. Ruined my favorite fucking dress doing that.

>>2052391
I laughed at that picture for a whole minute.
They should ley that dog out more often.

>>2052391
>my dad is the best that's why I suck his dick until my face turns blue and I pass out

>>2052405
dude wat

>>2052405
>>2052561
This board is retarded

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i just saw this lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlUvBI9VyA0

>>2046540
Not the other guy. I had a hunter way growing up. He was amazing, so friendly and obedient with next to no training. He just chased balls all day and followed you when you walked him. Such a great mate. Still have his ashes in a box 9 years later. Funny is he looked hunter way but I always thought he was cross with a kelpie. Then again they are such a genetically wide breed.

https://youtu.be/sleFY6FKSWI?t=737

This girl refuse to get a companion for her rat because she claim she give her enough interaction and apparently the rat she had before lived to be six yrs old.
She is a firm believer that "all they need is love" and you know, whatever happen is just god's will.

Her rat will live on cuteness and pink fleece I guess.

>>2052617
12:25

>>2052391
>favourite fucking dress
Seriously, who fucks with a dress on?

>>2052323
>fence that'll hold a cat
Good luck with that
Letting your cat go innawoods is just as neglecting as letting your kids go innawoods. (Not at all)

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>>2052669
No luck needed. It isn't hard.

>>2038184
Did this not make anyone else lose their shit?

>>2052701
Make it a meter higher, surround more than 2000 m^2 and don't have any doors. Also you can't have big trees because cats would use it to get over the fence.
Then I could hope that my cat doesn't get through anyway.

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>>2052669
There are fences specifically for containing cats. It's not hard when you take into account that they can climb

And there's a difference between letting a human and an animal that's not in its natural habitat and an invasive species go outside freely

>>2052714
I am in Germany, cats and especially lynx lived here until humans changed everything.

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>>2052703
The thing is spring loaded. The idea behind it is when the cat climbs it it'll just chuck it back into the yard. At that point I'd just build an outdoor cat run

>>2052715
A domestic cat and a lynx are different, but I don't know jack about Germany so I'll take your word for it

>>2052716
In order to make this work I would need to cut down like 6 trees that my cat could use to get out and almost all of my hedge. I would destroy more ecosystem with that than my cats ever could. My garden is home for all kinds of birds, butterflies, bugs, rodents and flora and my cats only kill like one mouse or bird per week. I probably eat more animals than that aswell.
Of course bringing animals like cats, frogs, bees or whatever to another continent will change the system but what if they were there in one form or the other for a long time?

>>2052323

You've clearly not spent enough time around cats to know a damn thing about them.

Outdoor cats are happier creatures, period. Indoor/contained cats are hyper-skittish little shitstains, with miserable personalities that are a perfect match only for the miserable aging single women who keep them. The possibility of living slightly longer is just part of their torture.

>>2052714

>Spayed/neutered
>Invasive species

Pick one.

>>2040617
People are monsters. AKC especially for showing these genetic freaks and making them desirable.

>>2052736

>believing this bullshit

>>2040532
I hope you mercy killed this individual before they had a chance to devolve into a full bred serial killer?

>>2052736
Not mine.

I live in rural wales, everyone has a cat, the concept of keeping them locked indoors is alien.

And then I come here and read people saying "Cut out their claws, lock them inside, never let them out, they'll be much happier" and I think that you people are insane.

>>2054591
As full of idiots as /an/ is, I have never seen anyone recommend declawing.

>>2052617
Like most people who get bunnies, or birds, yet most people here doesn't seem to care. What's so different with rats?

>>2054591
That's because you, like me, live in an area where people don't really give a shit about their cats, think of them as disposable and are completely unwilling to spend any money on them. Keeping your cat indoors is better for you - no dead animals everywhere, less risk of it dragging parasites with it into your home, better for your cat - less likely to get diseases, injuries, getting pregnant or getting other cats pregnant (people with outdoor cats often don't spay or neuter it), or being hit by a car and dying).
Most outdoor cat owners don't really care about that though because they don't really care about their cats.

>>2054594
Declawing isn't the same as trimming claws. Trimming claws is like cutting your nails, declawing is like cutting off your finger.

>>2038238
Will be the majority within our lifetimes so might as well go ahead.

>>2054609
Well yeah, obviously, but he said "cut out their claws" which sounds more like declawing than trimming to me. But I dunno, I guess I might've misunderstood.

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>>2052716
>A domestic cat and a lynx are different
The cats he talks about are Felis sylvestris sylvestris, a native feral cat in europe (but it's not the origin of the domestic cats, that would be the african version, F. felis lybica). They were nearly extict once but their numbers are slowly increasing again.

But even so, there are places like some islands where native feral cats or foxes weren't a thing for a long time and problems occur.
Populations of stray cats are also a problem and I really don't understand why it's still allowed to let your cat outside unneutered, at least in most parts of germany.

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>>2039380
After all these years the internet still manages to surprise me

>>2042401
I would wreck you if i found out you let rats near my baby
>inb4 they're smart
That's not a good thing

>>2052323
>walk them on a harness
People who walk cats are far lower than paedophiles and serial murderers in the socially shunned scale.

>>2052336
Get off the internet skavenscum.

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>>2039380

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>>2052591
>those comments
Fucking dindus, I swear

>>2043458
I remember when I was a kid, the house a few doors down had kittens. They left the kittens outside all the time, and when one of them wondered onto the neighbor front lawn, he'd shoot them with an air soft gun.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4eb_1454570466
>Niggers

>>2047086
Mad little bitch right here

>>2052701
>catcentration camp

Archer already made a 'Meowchwitz' joke

>>2054609
I bet your cat is a cunt

This guy should be thrown in a cauldron
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4eb_1454570466

>>2054745

>open link
>see title
>close

>>>/b/

>>2052736
They're hyper skittish shitstains if you can't bother to actually play with them, which is kind of important when it comes to taking care of an animal. You can't give something clean bowls of food and water, and a place to sleep and expect them to be healthy or satisfied

>living slightly longer
Outdoor cats live 3-5 years on average and indoor cats live 12-20. That's a bit bigger of a difference than "slightly". Sorry that you don't care about your cat to the point where you don't give a shit if it dies

>>2054735
Not the person you're replying to, but I keep my cat inside and trim his nails and I very compliments on his temperament. He's relaxed and enjoys being around people, although he isn't the super friendly type and won't go up to you but will let you come up to him. He's rather active for an 11 year old, and requires several hours of play a day, and he enjoys spending time outside in his cat run where he gets to watch the wildlife without the danger of letting him outside

Most outdoor cats I've met are cunts that are aggressive and territorial, but maybe that's just because I haven't met enough cats that are let outdoors. The more calm ones I've met were very skittish and scared easily, though

>>2043178
My voodoo doll of you has just been given herpes you edgelord cunt.

>>2054969
Wild animals live longer in captivity too. So what's your point?

>>2054978
My cat is let outside and is possibly the friendliest animal I've ever met. Has no fear of strangers inside the house (will jump on their laps for attention) and can basically never get enough attention. Of anything, I kinda wish she was less affectionate, jumping on me in the middle of the night

>>2040532
Something similar happened to me. One of my old friends, who I no longer even speak with, stomped on a turtle and a frog at his birthday birthday party. (10th grade) I was so shaken. I couldn't believe it. I ran inside and told his mom and she ran outside in her nightgown and hair in those curl things and she beat the hell out of him in front of everybody

>>2054634
How does this happen? Honestly asking. I don't know much about breeding, etc. I'm guessing the pictures on the left were from the early to mid 1900''s and the right pics are 2000's? That is honestly disappointing.

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>>2051930
>>2040634
Every type of turtle I knew growing up had feet and claws and they swim just fine. It's a pretty easy mistake to make for someone not into animals.

>>2054978
Have you met them outdoors or indoors? My cat isn't scared at all indoors, loves to be carried upside down and every stranger is allowed to pet her. But outside she's really careful, doesn't really like to be carried at all, and just our neighbors and family members can even go near her. Maybe because she was a stray and has had some unfriendly encouters.
I've also met outdoor cats who really like to be petted by strangers and kinda demand it, too.It's cute but could be a little dangerous for them.

It's no wonder your cat is nice because you play with him and he even has a cat run. The only shitty indoor cats I know have shitty owners who treat them like a house plant and don't really care about their needs besides medical attention and food. Same goes for outdoor cats, too, but I guess they can still get some attention or entertainment outside. Some owners tend to just put them outside if they want to play so these cats just see humans as a source of food.

>>2055000
Is that an Iriomote cat? If so goddamn.

>>2055092
Picking up a snapping turtle to throw it in the water is still retarded

>>2040466
Downies are mad as hell when you upset one or meet a mean one.
Some even bite.

>>2055426
Nonsense, Common snappers don't have that far of a bite range. Pick them up by their tail and they can't bite you at all.

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>>2039175
My folk's pug-mix is similar to that.

RIP Sugar the cat

http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/mc-north-catasaqua-cop-killed-sugar-cat-911-20160205-story.html


http://www.yellowpages.com/catasauqua-pa/mip/north-catasauqua-police-dept-21354538
http://www.catapd.org/

Oh wait, he just killed it because it hissed at him. Wasn't even injured.

http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/mc-north-catasauqua-cat-shot-dead-20160108-story.html

>>2056166
>>2056162
No one gives a fuck about an outdoor cat.

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>>2052617
I wish I could get a buddy for my boy, but none of the local breeders (NYC) seem to be willing to put a single rat up for adoption.

On top of that, our apartment is pretty tiny, so if the two rats don't get along for whatever reason, there's literally no place for a second cage.

feels sad man

>>2055002
The point is that you should not let your pets outside.

>>2052736
You sound like the type of moron that has a new cat every month and says "at least they died happy" when they find the mutilated corpse in the bushes.

>>2037949
>still getting mad about this

Honest mistake faggot.

>>2056172
You must realize /an/ is unique in it's "outdoor cats are vermin" meme, irl not even Koreans are that cruel.

>>2037949
Ok

>>2056278
>cruel
>thinking invasive species are bad is cruel

>>2056195
Pet stores don't exist. Rescues don't exist. Your rat needs a companion.

>>2042464
Men in Black

>>2056281
>thinking cats are an invasive species outside australia, whose ecosystem has been completely fucked up by the aborigenals anyway
Eurasia, Africa and the Americas all have numerous species of wild cats and Australia also used to have predators in that niche, if anything we should introduce something to fill the hole left by the extinct marsupial predators and take care of all the unruly emus and kangaroos and so on.

>>2056281
>>2056323
In addition, advocating the killing on sight of unguarded family pets has nothing to do with invasive species being bad and everything to do with a portion of /an/ being autistic psychopaths.

>>2052702
I think only the tiger one did.

>>2038632
O-oh I get it, b-because there's a dog in that one show, family guy, right?

>>2056328
It's legal to kill invasive species on sight in many places. Your argument is full of holes. Rats fill in the same niches as other animals, which is part of what makes them so destructive in some places. They out breed then out compete native animals, then spread disease. It's legal to kill rats on sight, and starlings as well. Feral cats are an invasive species. Just because some of them are tame enough to interact with humans doesn't make them have special status. They compete with wild bobcats, destroy bird and lizard populations, and generally fuck with the ecosystem.

I like cats too but when there was an epidemic of feral dogs we killed em and made leash laws. In my area, those laws apply to cats.

I'd love it if people had to keep their cats inside or on a leash/in an enclosed outdoor environment. Then I'd see less dead cats on the road and less cardinal and warbler heads and feet in my backyard and on my walks. I would only stop my blue heeler and border collie from killing a cat in my yard to save them from the chance of having an eye scratched.

Cats aren't that special. Idiots who don't spay and neuter their outdoor cats or give them a bell to at least try to protect the birds deserve to lose their animals.

>>2056353
Typical american.

>>2056784

American here. I'm the nice kind of American and don't advocate killing cats.

I still don't think you should let your cats roam at large. They decimate wildlife populations.

They cause a lot of suffering when they're allowed to roam.

>>2054591
This

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>>2037949
Oh oh! I've got a brand new story, this happened 15 minutes ago.
>get home with groceries, open the door
>set them on the counter, go back to close the door, mom also got up to help put it away
>a fucking cat waltz' in
>goes to my parrots cage
>looks up at him, gets closer
>mom yells because a fucking black and white thing is in the house, worried it was a skunk for a second
>cat jogs from her towards the door as if resigning to staying near there so it doesn't get shit, goes near where I am, right next to the door
>DEUSVULT.jpg
>yell at the arrogant cunt, corral it outside with my shoed foot, resisting the extreme urge to kick the fucker
>hiss at it a bit because fuck it that might help
>instantly remember to close the screen, fucker is waiting to sneak back in
>stomp in front of it to get the point across, corral it past our doorway into the bushes, yell at more
If it had attacked my bird I'd have kicked it across the room, no regrets.
Fucking outdoor cats, I swear, and their owners aren't much better for letting the things wander around. Almost kicked the thing and they probably proudly mention they let their cat have "freedom" outside.

>>2042429
Some Africans rape babies to get rid of their AIDS, is that ok because they're Africans?
>not the same
Injuring and assaulting something small that can't defend itself, yeah it's pretty close.

>>2054591

I don't support declawing cats but I do support keeping them indoors.

Outdoor cats torture and kill native wildlife.

>>2056912
I live in a suburban area on the fringe of the city, the cats aren't anywhere near close enough to the bushland though
Do they still pose a threat to any native wildlife? I have seen no animals except other cats, dogs and the occasional bird around here.

>>2056915
Different anon, but:
If your cat does something stupid or ballsy they could get really hurt. Like I said here >>2056907 I'd rather kick a strange cat, than let it attack my pet. It almost came to that, but luckily it didn't. I'd say the risk isn't worth it.
You could still have a place to let the hang out like a porch or backyard if you really want to, but only if you're around to keep an eye on them. Cats can be raised to prefer inside to whatever level, so it just depends on what you're ok with. But this is why I couldn't have a cat, aside from allergies, is I either keep em inside but idiots will rant at me, or I let them run free but they could die terribly. I'll stick with my parrot or a dog.

>>2056931
Thanks anon. They have a decent backdoor area and tend to stick around there a lot when they're not inside. However, they do travel around a little bit like the other cats in the neighbourhood, but I've never seen them on the road or directly on the driveway.

>>2056934
Good, you raised 'em right.

>>2056256
If you really care about the animal, why toss it in the water like a rock?

When I got my corgi, I was told that his dad was 35-40 pounds and that recently, bigger Pembrokes were being bred. I about shit my pants.

>>2055085
Selective breeding at work as usual.

>>2050302
well i think google blocked them or something, and the boards i visit are not ded at all

>>2055426
snappers live in the water right?

>>2057187
Yes and they are known to snap.

>>2057219
HES GONNA SNAP

I wonder how cats would turn out if they domesticated that cat.

>>2039175
And now they breed them with beagles to get them to look like that.

>>2056195
You need to find a way to get another rat or give your rat to someone who can provide for him. There is no excuse to settle for having a single rat.

>>2038251
I own a purebred dog
>The median longevity of Koolies is about 18 years, which is a typical lifespan for this breed. Koolies have a diverse gene pool and so do not suffer from the many genetic problems found in recognised breeds

We also had an extremely healthy purebred lab who lived to 16 (her mother lived to 15)

>>2037949
i laughed
a bitter laugh but still
poor tortoise

>>2056323
Australia never had a predator in the niche that foxes and cats have filled you fucking moron. Australia has the worst mammal extinction rate in the world because of cats.

>>2057674
What is thylacine? And arguably Thylacoleo, Megalania, Quincana, at lest 3 different species of thnderbirds which might have been carnivorous and some others.
And why not introduce Tasmanian devils into australia, they are strong enough to eat cats and foxes.

>>2037949
Not that I approve of using rivers as dumps, but maybe the kid had to mow his lawn?

>>2057716
what if the kid had to mow his river? huh?