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Discuss anything aquarium related here, including inhabitants, decor and issues.

Google is your friend.
Feel free to ask questions but know that there are a lot of resources out there that could answer your question a lot faster and accurately than /an/.

Make sure to include these things in your post before asking because we can't help you if we don't have the full picture:
-tank size
-parameters
-any and all inhabitants + how long you've had them

Links:
>How to cycle your tank:
http://pastebin.com/x4WnB0Ah (embed) (embed) (embed)
>General aquarium care sheets - http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/
>Livestock and plants for sale - http://www.liveaquaria.com/
>FUCKING GOOGLE - http://www.google.com
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So now I have obvious traces of nitrite and nitrate in my cycling tank. The thing is, I haven't had to feed the bacteria ammonia for two days now because I had a sudden ammonia spike and I don't know where it came from. I would bring the ppm up to 3 every time it went down but not it's just sitting around at 4 ppm. Is this normal?
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>>2033263
ive located a newborn snail in my tank, any special steps i should take to ensure its survival?
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>>2033328
Nothing at all.
It will soon multiply and be all over your substrate.
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Can this be a no rcs version? 90% of the thread is usually the same few people talking about their dead rcs.
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>>2033338
How about we talk about how well our CRS are doing?
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I have a 50x25x25cm tank. Would it be reasonable to have a small school of pygmy corys in there? I wouldn't want any other fish in the tank, besides some inverts.

Kinda related to >>2033345 since there's a pygmy cory in the pic :^)

How big is your tank m8?
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>>2033345
That's what I've been feeding my fish lately. Now their color is amazing.
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>Tfw have 20+ assassin snails from 3 originals.

Think I need to start selling
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>>2033187
They're really peaceful. Mine actually keeps getting beaten up by my bristlenose pleco. They'd be fine with the tetras, but they'll eat the shrimp. I've read that they can be slightly territorial towards each other.

>>2033207
2-5mL/gal of H2O2, put into a syringe and squirted directly on the algae daily for a week.
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>>2033345
That ain't a CRS bruh.

>>2033347
More than big enough. You could have as many as two dozen in there without issues.
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>>2033360
Damn, that many? Well, I think I would go for something like 8-10 corys + some snails and shrimps.
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>>2033366
Yeah, pygmy cories are kind of like shrimp in that they're almost impossible to overstock.
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Gunna replace all of my substrate with Walstad-style stuff. The only problem is I don't know what I want to cap the soil with. I have sand at the moment, which is good for my loaches, but it's almost impossible to clean.

What are some heavy/large grain non-silica sands I can buy? Or should I just go with 3mm pea gravel?
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>>2033373
>one per twenty gallons
Woah, I'm overstocked.
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>>2033381
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>>2033378
Garnet?
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>>2033353
>Neocaridina shrimp
So is there anything special to keeping shrimp? To be honest, I don't even know what they eat. I mean, I know they eat algae, but what would I need to drop in the tank every now and again for food?
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>>2033397
Here >>2033365
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Well, shit, son. I thought my last yellow shrimp just died in some crevice where I couldn't see her, but I guess she's just been really good at hiding for that last week and a half. I guess I'm glad I didn't change my mind and put blue shrimp in there.

Also the nerite is a shit machine.
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>>2033397
They're pretty simple. Don't keep them with fish big enough to eat them, make sure they have hiding spots (caves and driftwood and so, they love it), and toss in an algae wafer every now and then. I keep two amanos and give them one wafer every third day. If you keep them with fish and plants you may not need to feed them at all, they eat algae and fish shit.
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'sup /aq/.
A friend of mine is moving out and I could get his 10 gallon aquarium for free.
Is there any interesting fish "setup" to be had with a 10 gallon aquarium? Got suggestions? Also I never had fishes, so uh, if there are species a bit more resistant to mistakes than others... The aquarium's a bit cube-shaped, this changes things compared to a longer but not as tall aquarium, right?
Any example 10 gallons aquariums, maybe?
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>>2033419
Ten gallons is perfect for a school of small tetras, shrimp, or a betta. Make sure you also get a filter and a heater, you'll need them to keep your fish healthy.
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How should I feed my kuhli loach?
I know some of you put algae wafers in dishes for other bottom feeders, but will a loach go into a small dish?
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>>2033263
Anyone here have experience with those small front yard ponds? What kind of animals do you put in them besides goldfish or koi?
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>>2033404
>>2033406
Here's a shrimp thread for the idiots who can't read >>2033365
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>>2033406
I had a beta that died of fin rot. Would I need to cycle the water out/100% change if I'm putting shrimp in the tank?
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>>2033442
That's the exact same thread with a different title.
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>>2033434
Oh yes, it comes with a heater, a filter, a programmable light and a small pump.
Is there any way to check if the filter's still good before fishes start dying? The thing's a bit old.
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>>2033440
>What kind of animals do you put in them besides goldfish or koi?
Dojo loaches, minnows, channel catfish, grass carp, gambusia...
It all depends on the size and temperature of your pond.
If you live in a very hot place or use a heater you can try tropical fish too.
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>>2033448
But it's for shrimp anon
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>>2033442
Yeah, and if it weren't such a lazy and transparent shit excuse for a containment thread, someone might actually use it.
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>>2033440
Depends on where you're located, but usually sunfish do well. They're also edible.
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>>2033461
>Autism the post
I wish death upon any shrimp you ever care for
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How do these things even work?

How tight they are seems to have no baring whatsoever on how open they are.

Sometimes when I tighten it it actually INCREASES flow. And sometimes even when I close it as tight as it goes with a pair of pliers the co2 keeps coming out.
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>>2033466
Like I literally just wrenched it just now as tight as possible with an adjustable wrench and it's still coming out slightly.
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>>2033442
That's an RCS thread. Mine isn't an RCS, so up yours.
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>>2033443
It wouldn't hurt, but fish diseases don't usually affect inverts. The shrimp might carry the bacteria or whatever that could have caused the fin rot, but they'll eventually die off without affecting the shrimp.

>>2033450
Just try running it. Either on the tank or a bucket or something.
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>tfw I love catfish but my tank is only 36 gallons
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>>2033471
Shrimp are for fags and trap lovers
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>>2033523
corydoras, hoplo, loaches (not catfish but similar), do enough research and you can find lots of smol catfish
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>>2033523
"Catfish" includes some 3000+ species. I'm sure you can find some you like that'll fit in your tank.
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>>2033523
Catfish come in every size.
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>>2033596
>Microglanis iheringi
One of the worst aquarium fish desu.
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>>2033598
If you don't have LED moonlights.
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>>2033602
>but if you just-
Why bother when there are so many better alternatives, though?
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>>2033595
>Royal Farlowella Catfish
Welp, another to my list.
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>>2033611
Don't you need a special light to get them to reflect light like this?
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Can I melt and use snow for my aquarium while I get my finances in order to buy an RO machine? I live in a fairly clean area with lots and lots of trees. No factories for at 40 minutes of driving.
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>>2033598
>>2033596
Any other small catfish species?
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>>2033620
I think it just takes regular full spectrum lighting at very precise angles. I've seen it very slightly at LFS before.

>>2033625
It's no different from rainwater as long as no one has stepped in it. Freshly fallen would be better.
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>>2033631
Corydoras pymaeus
Corydoras habrosus
Hara jerdoni
Centromochlus perugiae

and several others. Check out planetcatfish for more species listings.
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>>2033632
It's been there for days... Still good?
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Hey guys, it's the guy from the last thread with the minnow and shrimp tank. I took the advice I was given and have removed the horrendously ugly elodea for some nicer looking plants and some Java moss. My LED desk light is coming tommorow and two of the shrimp have berried already after only 4 days, is there anything else I should consider for this tank?
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>>2033659
A black background.
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>>2033659
Bottom looks a little bit bare, how about some more moss cover for the shrimplets to hide in? Or some Pellia bushes
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>>2033666
I'm getting some hair grass on Tuesday from a friend of mine whose brother is a shrimp breeder for the substrate, will that suffice? Another piece of driftwood is also going along the bottom right corner too.
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>>2033663
Is just spraying a piece of cardboard black and taping it to the exterior fine?
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>>2033631
Planetcatfish.com let's you search for specific size ranges, among other things.

>>2033638
I can't imagine why not.
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Hey guys it's me the minnow guy again. My family are moving into a new house September so I've decided that I will get a large tank. I've got my eye on a 700 litre. I would stick it with 15-20 discus, 2 should of 25 or so tetras 15 or so corys/ottos, shrimp from my minnow tank, 5 or so half beaks, 6 khuli loaches and a betta. Does that sound like too much? Or could I even fit more in there? If I do indeed have room for more what is recommended. Keep in mind this will be a fully planted soft water aquarium to accomodate the discus.
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>>2033263
>tfw heater blew and you lost your only tropical angel fish.

RIP Midnight, you were the only one to emerge from the thunderdome, may you be granted peace in Valhalla.
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How do I get my Amazon swords to make babbys to transfer to my other tanks, ive had it for like, a year, and it wont shoot runners at all, and this other paddle leaved sword is now transforming into a regular amazon sword, but still no babbys at all...
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>>2033267
Yes, for me atleast, cycling means that your aquarium cant convert amonnia into nitrogen, so you should wait a week or two
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>>2033351
Me too, have 1 tank of pest snails to feed the assasin
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>>2033796
It's only active at night.
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>>2033659
>>2033669
That's a hundred times better than it was.
Good Job!
Keep experimenting to find what you like.
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>>2033670
That's actually a pretty good idea.
I might try that too.
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>>2033670
Yes. In one of my tanks, I used an old rolling windshield sunscreen as a background.
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>lfs has boxing week sale
>20 gallons with tetra kit

I heard Tetra wasn't the best but wtf. It came with a cheap little heater that's supposed to keep at 25c +-1c. I put a cheap sticker thermometer on the glass and it does show around 25-24. However, the water feels a lot more like room temp and my cheapo electronic ppm pen also says it's worm temperature.

How do I trust?
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>>2033659
desu you should change the substrate to sand and wedge the plants in with some rocks, you dnt gotta do it im just posting my opinion
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>>2033879

>Sand in a freshwater tank
>Not a black/dark grey small gravel sub strait with a plant bed.

Shit taste/10
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>>2033884
>can't even spell substrate
Try again, dingleberry.
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>>2033884
There's lots of freshwater lakes and rivers that have sandy. Unless you're retarded and think everything are just pebbles and mud then I understand. Some plants need sand and lots of fish enjoy sand more because it's easier to dig through especially fish you like to bury themselves.
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>>2033796
Pretty much the definition of "You will never see your fish.
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>>2033889
Fish who like to bury themselves*
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My sword plant is growing these two gnarly runners that are sort of cramped in my already heavily planted tank.

Is it OK to pull the runners out through an opening at the top of the tank? Will they still grow? Or dry out and die? Pic related.
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>>2033889

I was talking purely aesthetically. Also sand is a lot more annoying to clean.
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>>2033895
Depends on this person I guess. I enjoy a thin layer of sand in one tank and gravel in another.
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Anyone got any sort of fish tier list?
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>>2033903
Your preference.
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>>2033893
Leaves are already dying from lack of moisture, which isn't that surprising. However, knowing that swords can grow emersed, I wonder if the leaves won't grow back, just adapted for open air.

I put the more developed runner back in the water and left the less-developed one exposed to see what happens.
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>check calculator
>get betta
>gourami
>neon tetras
>german blue ram
>albino cory

>NO TO BETTA AND GOURAMI

Well then... who's the unlucky bastard to go?
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>>2033977

Betta.
Gourami can handle slightly faster currents better, which the tetras and other fish appreciate.

Although tetras are boring as shit and you'll regret them a month after purchase, guarantee it.
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>>2033982
>Although tetras are boring as shit and you'll regret them a month after purchase, guarantee it.
Black tetras are pretty cool, though.
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>>2033893
If the leaves grew underwater they might have to die back first and be replaced with emersed growth, which may again have to die back and be replaced with immersed growth if you plent them underwater afterward. I've seen the sword plants send runners in the little tubes they keep them in at PetSmart, though, so I can't imagine the air alone being an issue. They're big ehough right now that you could just plant them, if you have another tank.
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>>2033890
All the most interesting catfish species are nocturnal.
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>>2033767
>17 liters
>700 liters
0-100 in no time flat, huh?
It doesn't sound like too much, but if you want to put a betta in there I would very strongly recommend a plakat (short-finned/wild-type) or a female (or a group of females). The giant-finned bettas often seem to have trouble getting around in large tanks, and they make easy targets for any fish that decide to munch on his fins.

>>2033903
What kind of tiers? Difficulty? Rarity? Or a subject "dun like wot i dun like!" kind of thing?

>>2033982
There are hundreds of different types of tetras, only some are wet carrot personalities. I have some flame tetras and they're pretty chill.

>>2033977
>who's the unlucky bastard to go?
Bettta. A ram would bite at a betta's fins unless you got a plakat or a female. The tetras might, too, depending on what you get. Consider rasboras and Celestichthys spp in addition to tetras.
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>>2034011
Subjective. And besides, the ones that are aren't usually *so* nocturnal that you literally never see them.
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Replace meme tetra with Zebra Danios.

I don't know why I overlooked these for so long. Paid £0.80 ea and they're the most interesting thing in my tank.
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How do I humanely euthanize a betta?

I've heard the clove oil thing just suffocates them, freezing hurts them, chopping the head off is disgusting to me, and I don't have access to the fish euthanasia medicine. Am I fucked? He has dropsy and is suffering.
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>>2034048

1. Black plastic bag.
2. Stomp.

I mean, what else do you expect? Dying sucks.
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>>2034034
>most interesting thing in my tank.
How so?
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>>2034048
Clove oil is arguably the most humane method. It's used as anaesthetic in fish surgeries.
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>>2034048
Clove oil is fine. The betta will be unconscious before it suffocates, so it won't "suffer" if that's what you're worried about. Just make sure the betta stays completely submerged for at least 10 minutes in the solution, since they can breath atmospheric oxygen.
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>>2034054
Not the one you replied to, but one of my zebra danios leaped out of the tank and managed to fry himself by getting lodged between the fluorescent bulb and light hood.

Interesting indeed.
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>>2034058
I was asking because I have them too and they are just crack addicts.
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>>2034056
Most humane would be a quick and fast beheading right behind the gills. It's instant death instead of stressing out in clove oil till they're "passed out"
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>>2033982
I really really hate my tetras. All they do is stay in one spot until I feed them.
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>>2034063
Don't you find that interesting?

They're the most interesting thing in my tank because they're just always on the go zooming around and having little scraps with each other.

They'll also swim in and around all my plants unlike some of the other fish that stick to open water.

Also when I'm doing maintenance they're the only ones that don't hide and they try and feast on my fingers.

Other fish in my tank are 2 gourami that NEVER come out. A female betta that rarely comes out some meme tetra that don't move and some rosey tetra that move a bit.
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anyone have experience with these guys? Names quite a mouthful, they look like little freshwater stargazers
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>>2033633
>centromochlus perugiae

That's the cutest thing I've ever seen. How rare are these to come by
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>>2034069
Makes sense, I have tetras just for the looks not the interesting factor. The ones that keep me entertained are my loaches. Danios are pretty nice though and I will get more when I find more long fin ones.
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>Amanos don't even eat algae they just stay on one piece of wood forever

Why are they such lazy shits?
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So /aq/ I've been trying to grow a hairgrass carpet for a good 8 months now and it's still not a carpet like pic related.

I have co2, ferts and 3 months ago a got a much more powerful light.

What gives?
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>>2034080
Here's mine
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>>2034068
You need something big enough in the tank to be perceived as a predator, but friendly enough to not cause any actual damage.
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>>2034067
I'm kind of leary about beheading cold-blooded animals to be honest.
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What's the easiest plant to grow a nice carpet from?
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>>2034071
>common name is literally "prehistoric monster fish"
Well okay then.

I found a care sheet for them, at least.
http://www.seriouslyfish.com/species/thalassophryne-amazonica/
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>>2034073
Pretty uncommon. There's a few breeders out there that might sell some juvies if you look around.
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>>2034084
A sharp knife and a swift cut and his life will be over right away. Also a swift hard stomp will do the trick.
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>>2034082
Even when I had them in with my oscars they did the same thing. They're over a year old and I may just give them away to someone who will enjoy them more than I will. Then I can redo my 20 long with something more neat. Maybe feed my payara them.
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>>2034084
Are you less leary about beheading warm-blooded animals.
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>>2034177
Not really, but I figure warm-blooded animals die faster from it than cold-blooded ones. I haven't seen videos of decapitated chicken or pig heads continuing to move like reptiles anyway.
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>>2034223
Once the spine is disconnected from the brain they do not feel pain. It sucks. But do what you gotta do and what you're comfy with.
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What are the symptoms of too much nitrate?
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Anyone know of any fish that like stick to the bottom and swim in and around plants?
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>>2034309
Sure.
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>>2034279
Death
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Just came back from the pet store with 10 feeder guppies. Put them in quarantine and stare at them for a bit. I notice 3 endler livebearer fry. Nice. I'll probably keep them.
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>>2034080
these take a billion hairgrass, and stick it as closely as possible, then take a quick picture. These only last for a few days and gets taken down.
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>>2034309
Kuhli loaches.
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>>2034069

Ah young one. You have awaken to the danio.

Long finned zebra danios are my preference but they are definitely the most amusing fish to watch since they are always moving and usually never take the same path twice.
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>15 gallon filter is having issues working
>Have a custom made aquarium background that can only have the 15 gallon filter fit into it
>can't find the same filter type at my nearby stores

goddamit.
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Whats the best way to go about making a female betta sorority?
I have 15 gallons of tank and am thinking about wanting a sorority when my last 3 danios pass away.
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>>2034493
>>Have a custom made aquarium background that can only have the 15 gallon filter fit into it
I'm... intrigued.

>>2034498
Buy 5+ females about the same size, swap out the ones that are too aggressive to cohabitate until you get it right. Fucktons of plants.
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>>2033464
Dude, that's just sick and wrong. Don't be an ass.
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>>2034257
Not true, fish can stay alive for over an hour after decapitation. You need to decapitate and then destroy the brain.
Whether they feel pain in the first place is another question.
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>>2034516
He's "special," John. Leave him be.
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>>2033659
Buy a single largish marimo moss ball, or a couple smaller ones. Cut the moss ball open, flatten it, sew it onto a plastic or wire mesh with cotton string, then stick it in the right front corner as a carpet. Best part about it? You can pick it up and move it whenever you get bored or need to clean.
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>>2034086
Depends, do you want something tall that waves a little in the current? Short and bushy? Flat and thick? Low maintenance? There are tons and tons of options.
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My Beta died last week. I've got a 5.5 gallon tank. What should I fill it with next? I was either thinking a few, smaller, schooling fish, a largish catfish of some sort, or a few little Ghost/Cherry Shrimp. Any suggestions?

Possibly a Crayfish.
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>>2034510

Yeah I made the background myself. Took about a month and Im actually surprised it works without causing any problem to the water quality. Ill post a pic later since I don't like turning on the bright light suddenly when the fish are in night time.
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>>2034524
Do some triops for a change of pace. They don't live long any way and are pretty entertaining because they grow like weeds. Thats what I'm thinking of doing that in a while.
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>>2034524
Memeshrimp or a group of dwarf crayfish.
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>>2034527
>Memeshrimp
I'm newish. I'm guessing those are Cherry Shrimp, though?
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>>2034530
Yes. Or the other assorted colors they come in nowadays.
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>>2034526
Those are gorgeous. They look like they'd need a sand substrate. Is there anything special to caring for them?
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been hatching and cultivating brine shrimp for food lately got some cool pics
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>>2033893

those will grow for sure if you replant in the water the have big white roots coming out i have done it and ended up with nice looking swords from the runners
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>>2034080

needs bright bright light, bam in your face light

less GH is better

vacc the gravel gently where the hairgrass is to get some of the crud out so they can send runners easy

use ferts that go in the substrates and cut them up into smaller parts to really spread it out and increase its surface area

lots of Co2 and lots of water changes doing water changes most important for happy healthy plants and aquarium life
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>>2034521
Will it grow and propagate?
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>>2034524
It's too small for a regular crayfish, but the dwarf ones are cool. I'm pretty sure they'd catch and eat anything they can get their claws on, but you could get some small cheap fish to put in there with them, like white clouds or neons.
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>>2034550
Not him, but I've done this a lot. Marimo carpets grow more upward than outward and get kind of more bushy looking over time.
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How do you guys prepare sweet potato for fish and inverts? Mine love it but they seem to have trouble eating it.

I tend to drop it in a cup of boiled water out the kettle then run it under a cold tap.
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Anyone ever feel bad about trimming moss and throwing it away because of how long it takes to grow and how expensive it is?

I just threw away a piece of taiwan moss twice the size of the square I bought of it for $5 6 months ago.
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>>2034573
yeah, i did that with dwarf frogbit, java moss and java wenditi plantlets for awhile, I knew there were people online who would want it, maybe even pay for it, but for the time and effort it would take me to either set up a ebay/paypal account and sell it ,or just mail it with either me eating the cost/or getting it comped, its sooooo not worth it.
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Is something like this worth the effort?
>20 gallon long tank, probably reptile tank
>looks like some weird hunk of plexiglass for a top, no hood or light
>fancy goldfish

I could get rid of the goldfish and have a nice planted shrimp tank...
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>>2034619
I'm just a little worried about it possibly being a reptile tank, since I've heard they tend to leak.
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>>2034620
This little guy looks kinda neat tho.
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Why do people keep fancy goldfish? They look hideous to me.
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Reeee why wont my moss grow compact like this?
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How important is having waterflow for hillstream loaches and bamboo shrimp? Want both for a 40 gallon but don't have a powerhead. Will the filter be enough if I put some rocks in to let the shrimp get closer?
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>>2034644
or you could, you know, spend the $15
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>>2034646
>15 bucks
Where the hell do you get one that cheap? And that didn't answer all my questions. I know hillstreams have a tendency to defend feeding areas. I don't want one fucking with my shrimp while he filter feeds
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>>2034643
Do you trim it constantly?
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>>2034651
Amazon has plenty of poweheads for under $20. Even some of the cheapo Chinese knockoffs are pretty reliable. I've got a few from JBJ and VicTsing that work just fine.

And answering your question: the loaches need flow. You can keep them in a standard community setup, but they do better with high flow and high oxygenation. You can serve both purposes by getting a powerhead with a venturi.
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>>2034538
Not really, they're so hardy even a child can breed them.
All you need is a soft substrate and strong light.
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I'm about to set up a 50 gallon freshwater tank. I have never had live plants in my aquariums before, so I wanted to know about feeding the plants. I have good lighting and a CO2 infuser, but when it comes to any sort of fertilization I am lost.

Is a simple liquid additive sufficient or is it better to use an in-substrate fertilizer? I have also read that some people use actual soil below the sand/gravel substrate for nutrition.

I am planning on having a bed of Dwarf Baby Tears (like pic related).

Also do I need to let the tank cycle before adding the plants (like you would for fish)?
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>Have 3 nanos and one long
>Start out making a neat and tidy composition trying dutch style and Iwagumi
>Can never keep up with the trimming and tank gets overgrown ruining the sense of scale
>Turns into jungle style

Every time. I now have 4 jungle aquariums. I think I'm gonna stick to this style.
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>>2034678
Why would I trim it if I want it to grow?
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>>2034700
Each trimmed end turns into two new ends.
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>>2034518
They aren't alive. It's nothing more than nerves.
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Help me /aq/, I'm feeling like a shitty owner.

I've had a freshwater/coldwater tank for about 6 years now, originally got it because where I used to live didn't allow any other type of pets. I really liked looking after the tank, and thought about upgrading to a more complicated setup.

Now though, I'm just fed up with this aquarium. I don't get any enjoyment out of it anymore. Evey week something fucking goes wrong with it (lights break, filter breaks etc), water changes are a pain in the ass, and it's just a chore to look after. Even worse since I've now got pets that I can interact with and are easier to keep.

What should I do? I don't really want to get rid of it, since they're still my pets, but I'm just struggling.
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>>2034516
>>2034520

You are all forgetting what site you're on. I wish death upon any living thing you care for.
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>>2034619
Doesn't look like one. They usually have black seal instead of the clear silicone.
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>>2034644
I've had one in a 20 long for 11 years with just a filter. They don't need flow but will enjoy it. They will swim and land on top of whatever is in its feeding area. They don't do damage but will just chase it away.
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>>2034709
Isn't that only stem plants?
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>>2034684
Flow isn't needed. Its preferred but not needed. They do well in community tanks. Mine lived 11 years with cories, guppies, and tetra. For a short time a bristle nose nose pleco. He lived longer than the average life span and grew a little over 3 inches. He eventually started eating wafers from my hand.
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>>2034711
Just sell it on Craigslist
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>>2034555

reminds me of that scene is star wars 5 where yoda hits R2 with his cane shouting MINE MINE MINE MINE for some reason.
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>>2034712
Do they not make medications for autism yet?
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>>2034697
Root tabs aren't usually needed unless you're using an inert substrate. You can use a nutritive substrate like potting soil or ADA Aquasoil and not have to worry about it. Most other plant substrates are nonnutritive, but promote root growth. Those do fine without root tabs, but it might take a little longer for heavy root feeders to really take off.
As for dosing the water column, you can do liquid or dry fertilizers. Liquid is more convenient; dry is more cost-effective long-term and gives you more control.
Put the plants in as soon as the tank is set up. They'll actually help speed up the cycling process.

>>2034715
Don't know where you got that idea. Aquariums and terrariums both come in clear and black silicone. The difference is in the glass thickness and how much silicone is used. If the tank is holding water and has been for a while, it's pretty unlikely that it was manufactured to be used as a terrarium only.

>>2034717
For java moss. The more you trim, the more compact it grows. Otherwise it'll just keep growing longer and leggier.
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>>2034711
Just keep maintaining it until you find someone you can ask to take the tank who will take care of it. What do you have in there?
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My cichlid is dying. I changed my 50gal tank, and conditioned the water. Ph levels are 8.0. He's the only aggressive fish in the tank.

I was getting ready to move him to his own tank when he turned pale and belly up. He's still alive. Gills are still moving. He's just hanging out at the bottom of the tank. He was lively and fuckin with other fish yesterday.

Is it just stress? Is there anything I can do?
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>>2034761
Currently, two goldfish, a loach and loads of plants.
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>>2034700

trimming and pruning plants promotes new growth but you need to trim them in the right ways different plants need different trimming methods to get the 'look' everyone wants to see and its important to not over trim
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Does anyone know where I could buy these, or something like them? They're the back corner pieces from the Fluval Ebi. The cheap "universal" ones from eBay look like shit and usually don't fit snugly unless you jury rig something. Last time I emailed Hagen, they told me that they don't sell it as a replacement part and just sent me two of them for free. I'd rather just buy them than to keep leeching off of their generosity, though. Especially since they're bound to find out I'm not actually using them as replacements for the 8 Fluval Ebi kits I don't have.
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>>2034785

dear fluval send me more pieces for free or start making them to get money lol
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>>2034697

>CO2 Diffuser

Is that really necessary? Isn't the liquid CO2 Booster enough for your plants?
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>>2034726
That's a dumb comeback. You should know they do.
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>>2034733
I got the idea from 90% of reptile tanks sold have the black sealant in the corner instead of clear mane. Though I used a 10 gallon one as a fish tank for a year. But that's 10 gallons.
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>>2034780
Post pics
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>>2034808
It is for an HC carpet.
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>>2034815
Sorry, meant to say that the diffuser was necessary.
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>>2034633
What ever do you mean?
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>>2034820
what the fuck
How can someone find that nice to look at?
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>>2034822
SolidGold

But for real these fish are bred to be in pain until they die.
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>>2034820
This seriously makes me angry.
Some stupid fucker bred that shit, it ain't natural at all. Some piece of shit decided that a deformed fish that couldn't even see where it's going was what idiot pet owners wanted...
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>>2034820
Fucking gross.
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>>2034828
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>>2034820
>>2034828
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>>2034836
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>>2034836
For the love of fuck, give that poor thing the sweet release of death it so desperately craves.
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Should I buy this?

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/truganina/other-home-garden/fish-aquarium/1100404911

Seems pretty cheap. Looks like theres damage at the top of the tank (picture 4). Don't think that will affect the structure.
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>>2034848

Forgot pic.
Looks like its been sawed off. A clean cut
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>>2034851
Looks like it would still be solid. If you don't mind that it's ugly, I say go for it. Try to use it to haggle for a great price I guess.
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>trim moss
>goes fucking everywhere

Every time
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>>2034538
Not the anon you're talking with, but the best part about them is that you can safely store the eggs in a dry container and then place them back in the water to hatch in staggered waves so that once your colony is nice and established you will continually have mature adults as the younger generations hatch and replace the older generations.
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>>2034550
Yes, but the thing to remember about marimo moss is that it's not actually moss, but a very slow growing beneficial freshwater algae. So compared to, say, java moss, it will never grow. But if you are having algae problems then throwing in some marimo moss will definitely help as it will compete with the other algae, but due to it's slow growth you never have to fear it overcrowding your tank.

The best part is that marimo moss is damn versatile. You can attach it to any kind of frame or mesh, wood or rock, as long as you remember not to put anything on the base, as that will die off due to lack of light. Or you could just keep it in it's natural ball shape and simply rotate it every once in a while.

I remember one anon had a boatload of marimo moss, and didn't know what to do with it, until another anon suggested that they cut them all up and sew them together to make one of those hollow castle like structures entirely out of the moss for the fish and shrimp in the tank.
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>>2034858
Use your siphon and trim during water changes.
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>>2034710
The human brain can survive for seven whole seconds after decapitation. And the human brain can survive for two whole minutes without fresh oxygen before incurring brain damage, that's why CPR is effective.

So it isn't unreasonable for people to believe in similar/stronger effects in cold blooded creatures.

Although I wouldn't go so far as to say that a fish could live for an entire hour after a decapitation. Not without hard scientific evidence to back that up.
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>>2034862
Are some types less cannibalistic than others?
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>>2034808

Co2 diffuser is ultimate it makes everything better in aquarium
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>>2034877
This. I thought with Tiops that you're always left with 1 large one after it's eaten all the others.
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>>2034890

Do you guys use the DIY yeast method, or do you use actual tanks of CO2?

I imagine in the long run it's cheaper to just use CO2 tanks, and get them refilled if there is anyone in your area that can do it for 10-15 bucks.
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How long does it take memeballs to grow?

I've seen football sized ones for sale for $250
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>>2034916

DIY Co2 is a joke after trying it and then going to a canister

if ur gonna run Co2 you need a canister
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>>2034920
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>>2034916
I use this

>pressurised
>can be turned off

No need to but a fancy co2 system
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>>2034920

>tfw want to go to cannisters.
>Don't want to spend $100 on a cannister + another $100 on a regulator.

Feels bad
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>>2034928

they aint even fancy once u have it you wont want to go back

yeah a 5lb cylinder and reg will run you like 200 bones but once you got it you got it for good
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>>2033263
someone gave me 3 fishes(tiny goldfishes, 2 different species, like 2,cm long each fish) yesterday
tell me how to make an enviroment for them in like the earliest stage of an aquarium, or the basics
I want to start making one but the storekit is kind of expensive and I've read that it isnt the best way and alsoim on a low budget and right now cant afford all of it .Getting a big glass tank is the first thing i'll do
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Friends,

When nitrate starts to appear, does it come in guns blazing? Went from 20ppm to about 100ppm in 24 hours. Nitrite and Ammonia is regular.
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>>2034935
Step one, get at least a 20 gallon tank
Step dos, put sand or small gravel in (be sure to clean it)
Step tree, add plants and other decor
Step four, add fish in slowly
Ste five, feed them daily,
step 6, horayy
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>>2034993
Hardscape comes before substrate.
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yeesh you guys you can throw a fish tank together however you want your rocks and wood chunks dont need to go in before the gravel
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>>2034993
>not cycling the tank before adding the fish
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>>2035047

adding fish slowly gets the cycle done fine
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>>2035031
Substrate goes in first then you add whatever else. Unless you're planning something else then substrate is always first.
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>>2035047
Waste of time.
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So i went and got this piece of dead coral at my lfs, after I got some advice on /aq/ that my plants are going to need calcium.
My question is how should i go about sterilizing it?
Should I boil it or should I bleach it? Will it leak chorline over time and kill everything?
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>>2035081
>how should i go about sterilizing it?
a better question is why?

what do you imagine is living on that dead rock that is worse than anything already living in your tank?

do you think your tank is a sterile environment or something?
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>>2035086
Not really, but the guy at the store said it might have been used in saltwater so it might be a good idea.
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>>2035088
kek
that's even better since there's pretty much nothing that lives in saltwater that can infect a freshwater tank.
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>>2035090
Well hotdog.
I'll just boil it for good measure.
Thanks
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>keep rcs
>check my filter just now
>at least 5 shrimplets living in the filter
should I just pour the filter into the tank or something? How should I go about relocating them?
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>>2035098
I got a 10 dollar breeder/isolation box at Petco. Its has 3 removables chambers. That might work if your tank isn't like tiny.
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>>2034523
not that anon, but say I'd like something short and can grow thick, maintenance would ideally be low but I wouldn't mind trimming. Would something like Monte Carlo be good?
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>>2035118
>2016
>not growing peppermint grass
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>>2034542
how did you go about breeding them?
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>>2035062
If rocks and wood are partially buried under the substrate they'll be more stable and large fish like plecos won't be able to rearrange their position.
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>>2035122

oooh k heres exactly what i did. hatching them is dummy proof but it took me two tries to actually grow them and they actually just reproduced all on their own. i got brine shrimp eggs from brineshrimpdirect.com and some of the live algae to feed them as well from there.

I used instant ocean sea salt from pets smart and put enough in so the water salinity was 1.024

i hatched the eggs in like a 2L bottle with the salt water and a lamp and drained them 24hrs after, sifted out the babies and then put like 8 or 9 droppers full of them into a little aquarium using water with the same salinity, didnt cycle the tank or any of that shit
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>>2035164
memories
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>>2035164

i have a crappy little air bubbler from walmart in the tank and a heater thats locked in at 80 degrees

as soon as i put the hatched babies into the growing tank i added the live algae until the water was cloudy with it. I just kept up the live algae but i mix it up with some water before adding it, i would add enough to make my little aquarium cloudy and would do it like maybe every 5 days. eventually (like 3 weeks~~) all the shrimp started to get more visible in the tank and they grew to like 1cm, after about a month and a half i noticed there were more tiny babies swimming around with the adults so i was able to confirm that they were breeding

didnt do any water changes, didnt vac/clean the tank or filter, i just topped up the water once by about 1/2 to keep the salinity the same after some evaporated
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>>2035173

the trick with feeding them is to basically dissolve the food in the water make it murky with the food source they dont need to eat the live algae stuff either you can use yeast, crushed up algae wafers i even saw a youtube video of a guy using milk

they can live in their own filth the water doesnt need to be pristine or anything
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>>2035161
My oscars dig everything up anyway ._.
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Is there a good way to set up a self-cleaning ecosystem in a tank? I don't intend on putting fish or anything in it, only plants and algae. I'm wanting to have microorganisms like rotifers and tardigrades.
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>>2035207
Sure, just go to the local swamp and put dirt and plants and shit in the tank. Fill it so half is water and half is land, up to about one third of the tank height. Then seal it because it's going to smell like swamp.
Congratulations on your worm, algae and tardigrade habitat.
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So since petsmart is doing their dollar per gallon sale I'm gonna get a 40g breeder tank. But I'm not sure what to stock it with exactly. (I'm in an apartment and I really don't want to go much bigger than that.)

Was kinda hoping for maybe 1-4 bigger showy fish, and just have that in the tank, but I can't think of any other than discus, and after researching them.. just the amount of water changes those things need would probably just set my land lord off about the water bill.

So any suggestions? I don't even have the thing yet, so It's pretty much a blank slate at this point. I'd rather stay away from schooling fish for this one.
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>>2035216
A leopard ctenopoma and a senegal bichir. Or a small group of ropefish.
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>>2035207
Enough plants will clean the aquarium just fine.
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>>2033263
Liveaquaria is apparently out of stock of kuhli loaches.
Will the dojo loaches also eat snails?
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>>2035386
Yes they will.
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>>2035393
Sweet how many should I get? Do they need to shoal?
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>>2035401
Gross.
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>>2035397
>shoal
Anon I know you're trying to sound like a smart person but I have bad news for you..
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>>2035401
(why though?)
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>>2035408
Hillstream don't need river tanks. I want that fish mane. I would kill my mom for one.
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>>2035408
Weird photo.
Are they really that green?
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>>2035427
this is a bad meme and needs to die, they need a high flow tank just as much as trout do, or would you put gourami's and bettas into a high flow tank?
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>>2035454
>this is a bad meme and needs to die, they need a high flow tank just as much as trout do,
I've kept lake trout in tanks with low flow.

where I live all stream trout can survive in lakes, so apparently they don't need rivers at all.
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>>2035454
It's not a meme. Have you ever kept one? If so has your lived a longer than expected life like mine has? No? Well there ya go. A high flow is NOT needed. It's not essential. They don't only live in high flow streams. This was never a meme.
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>>2035454
They don't need one. High stream is their natural habitat and they might be happier in it, but as long as the tank is well oxygenated they'll be in perfect health.
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Rate my tank
29 gal, 4 zebra Danio (lots more of those to come) java moss and anubis fern
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>>2035514
Pretty good, but the left side looks empty.
I think you should add some tall plants.
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>>2035514
You should consider a swarm of kuhli loaches for the ground. I bet it would look great.
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>>2035401
Why did they need 5+? I was hoping for no more Than 3
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>>2035514
That's good man. Do you have one with the lights on? I want to see more?
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>>2035539
They grow huge, see >>2033463 pic.
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>>2035514
This is decent but I think you need to swap out the log for a rock and get at least 5 coolies.
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>>2035564
The log looks fine
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Is it normal for an aquarium heaters setting to have no fucking bearing on what temp it keeps the tank at at all?

Mine seems to keep the tank at 25c when it's set to 29c
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Posting from a phone is the worst Fuck. I can't even link to post cause the reply window blocks other post I want to reply to.

Anyway, the tank does need a tall plan on the left side, I have a amazon sword, one of the large ones, in anothe tank I plan on transplanting.
I would love to have some loaches, I've had the little guys before, one lived to be 10 and survived 3 major home moves.

The logs gota stay, they are anchored down with Plexiglas under all that sand and stone. Was tough as shit to get them to stay. That's actually the same log, I just cut it to fit the tank.

How many zebra Danios can I fit in this thing? Filtration is gona be able to handle whatever I can throw at it, I have canister filters out the ass laying around.

I was thinking Cory cats and danios.
Oh and the lights on, just a lot of tannins from the wood, I like the look.
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>>2035514
Pretty awesome yo, 10/10.
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>>2035567
I mean, it takes up a lot of space in the aquarium. It'd be a great log for a 40 breeder or bigger but it looks so cramped in that tank.

Also, the river rocks seem a little forced.
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>>2035401
Is it okay if I just get 3 then?
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>>2035627
No. 5 is the minimum or they won't be healthy.

>>2035573
Base on tank size with most likely filtration rate (remember currents). http://www.aqadvisor.com/
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>>2035630
Alright then, I think I'll grab some of these.
http://aquariumfish.net/home.htm#!/Premium-Rare-Redtail-Zebra-Loach-2-to-2-5-long/p/40107288

Hopefully they'll still eat my snails
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>>2034309
Peacock Gudgeons. Stay on bottom most of the time, loves plants. Also, adorable
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>>2035216
Do you have plans for the hood, light, heater, filter, stand, etc? It's usually cheaper to get either an ensemble + equipment or a kit + a stand. Unless you're planning on doing something special like live plants, the equipment in kits is basic, but passable.
As for stocking, if your PetSmart still has rainbow cichlids in stock, I'd highly recommend a couple of them. Otherwise, some kind of 4-8" gourami (opaline, pearl, snakeskin), 4-8" cichlid (kribensis, salvini, smaller acaras), African butterfly fish, smaller plecos, rainbow shark, redtail shark, fancy goldfish. You have a lot of options (obviously not all of those at once).
I'm also fond of the leopard Ctenopoma suggestion (PetSmart sells them as "leaf fish"), but I'd pair him with two or three butterfly fish and a bristlenose pleco.

>>2035386
Neither dojo nor kuhli loaches will eat snails, and if you were looking at kuhli loaches, I don't think your tank is big enough for dojo. Botiid loaches such as pygmy chain loaches are the ones that eat snails. All loaches are social and should be kept in a group. 3 minimum, 6+ recommended.
If you just want something to kill snails you should get assassin snails.
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>>2035477
>it worked for me so it's fine
>my goldfish lived 15 years in a 10 gallon tank so they don't need big tanks
>my dog is totally healthy on grocery store kibble so they don't need high quality food
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>>2035654
Is this the type of loan you're referring to?
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>>2035662
*loach
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>>2035654
My kuhli loaches eat snails. I've seen them do it. They only go after the little ones, though.
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>>2035570
I'm assuming it's rated to be powerful enough for the tank size you have. If the room you keep the tank in is particularly cold, it could be too much for the heater to keep up with. Also, I have a heater that's off by a couple degrees. I just adjusted it accordingly and it works fine, so you might try doing that.
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>>2035671

its not rocket science its a heating element... if you have too much water or the room the fish tank is in is too cold it wont reach its set temperature....set at 25 degrees it can only achieve 22 degrees you need to make it work harder to produce less results
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>>2035570
I don't even use heaters. Haven't for years, but my house is pretty constant with its temps. I guess it depends on the fish also.
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>>2035656
Jesus fucking Christ you're retarded. This is what you're coming down to? Get some experience in the hobby then come back with a real argument.
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>>2035656
Your little arguement have nothing to do with the loach buddy. Hillstream loaches live in different environments and they're not always high flow environments. And guess what? They still have the average life span as the ones in streams. A FLOW IS NOT ESSENTIAL. Only if you're recreating it's exact environment. If you can't tell your fish is happy and healthy maybe this isn't the hobby for you anon. If you can't form a logical argument backed up with facts maybe you should just leave things be.
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>>2035656
youre a god damn retard
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>>2034524
Thai micro crabs have adorable old man faces.
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>>2035703
hurr durr, let me put this highly specialized fish and put it in a generalist enviroment :^) mine lived for a long time so it must be fine :^) nice personal anecdote faggot. Hillstream loaches are evolved to live in areas that have high flow, hence the shape of the body and fins, and given the option they will sit in high flow areas of a tank essentially all the time. unless yours are breeding I suggest you shut the fuck up and go back to your memeshrimps and marimoballs.
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>>2035696
>>2035703
>>2035722
>If I call him a retard three times I'll look really really smart!
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do people use marimoballs as an insult here lol
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>>2035813
Nothing makes you feel better about your own mediocrity like finding someone else to shit on.
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Hey guys, minno and shrimp tank guy again.

I have now installed a light and a black background. I have also anchored my large Anubis to a new piece of driftwood.

Thanks for everyone's advice, this is my first aquarium and I want to do It right.

Ps sorry for the glad and the shit lighting in general.
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which should i try to get /an/?

>http://easternshore.craigslist.org/for/5378504033.html
settled on $600, stock are gone

>http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/for/5376609019.html
also came down to $600 without the fluval filters and leaking protein pump. there's another protein pump in the sump
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>>2035872
>Option 1: deleted
Guess there's your answer.
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>>2035456
we also have trout stocked in lakes, that doesn't mean they thrive there.
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>>2035573
why not go with something that appreciates the tannins like chocolate gourami or some cardinal tetras?
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>>2035664
google yasuhikotakia sidthimunki for dwarf chain loach
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>>2034914
That's the unfortunate outcome with triops in tanks.

They'll become territorial and the fastest growing sibling will end up eating everyone smaller than it.

Each time I raised them it'd end up becoming some sort of shrimp holocaust where only 1 or 2 of the triops remain and grew to be an inch long off the flesh of it's brethren.

Then it lays a billion eggs and dies.

It's some dwarf fortress shit, I swear.
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>>2035887
They're adorable! I'll have my LFS order some for me, thanks
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>>2035770
You lost this argument anon. There's no reason to keep going. These are not specialized fish. They aren't hard to take care of besides having good water and oxygenation. High flow is NOT essential and experts will agree. You are trying to seem intelligent but you're making yourself look retarded. Something you probably know nothing about. But sorry for hurting your feelings.
>>2035780
Nice try faggot.
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>>2035770
>I'm a know it all who knows nothing so I'm going to ruin the entire thread by ironically shit posting
Even ironically It's still shit posting you autisic faggot. I suggest you shut the fuck up and kill yourself fatty. Stop ruining every fucking thread. They start out great then people like you who do literally no research before posting start an argument.
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>>2035883
Do you even know what thrive means?
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>>2035883
They live long, grow huge and reproduce.
In other words, they thrive.
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>>2035770
Have you considered suicide fat boy?
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Do bettas actually like this /AQ/?
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>>2036040
They'll rest on it. If you don't wanna spend money on it just stick it in your pocket.
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>>2036040
Never seen it before, but they do rest on leaves.
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>>2036040
Yes. Bettas love resting on leaves especially near the surface.
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>>2036054
Good to know,but I think I'll buy one of the live plants that connect to the wall.
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>>2036057
Water Sprite AKA Ceratopteris thalictroides makes a good floating plant for bettas, they love parking themselves in comfy positions

Just be prepared for lots of needle shedding and fernlets shoots
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>tfw getting some alhae
>tfw i just starve the fish for a day and they've eaten all the algae the next day
You people whine about algae way too much.
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>>2036115
Not everyone has algae-eating fish.
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>>2036040
Mine never gave it a second look...
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I am looking for the best possible fish to senpai on a empty lake. I need a fish that is able to adapt quickly and can live of eating almost anything but their own. The only predators are free water turtles and birds. I need a pest kind of fish, one that spread at high rates. The lake is about 1.5 meters deep and very large area.

so far, I am considering Tilapia.
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>>2036172
You could do bluegill/sunfish or a type of bass, crappie, or perch.
Those usually do well in small ponds and lakes.
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>>2036172
Platies.
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>>2036172
Channel catfish.
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What kind of snail is this?
I found him in my tank a while back as a tiny speck.
I only have nerites, and they have been laying eggs everywhere, so that's what I thought he was..
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>>2036210
I threw it in with my ghost shrimp, and now there are these egg sacs all over in their tank...
The snail and 4 ghost shrimp are the only things in that tank, so I'm guessing that snail has to be laying these.
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>>2036210
>>2036211
My nerites' eggs look completely different..
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>>2036172
red belly piranha if you want to be on the news
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>>2036250
They would just freeze to death.
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Why are fish such weak cunts compared to humans?

Fish: Can only survive in freshwater or saltwater. One's that like saltwater need a set specific gravity.
Humans: Can survive in freshwater and saltwater. Don't give a shit how unsalty or salty the water is.

Fish: Have to be kept at a certain temperature range between 5 degrees of their ideal temp or they die.
Humans: can survive temperatures from below freezing to desert heat

Fish: Die if they get a little stressed out
Humans: Become stronger and faster when they're stressed out.
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>>2036305
There's a huge difference between fish being kept in an enclosure, and the environments humans pick out and adapt to their needs. Make a human enclosure and see what happens.

>water
Humans quickly die if the only available water is salt water. They die more slowly if it isn't salty enough.
>temperature
No real adaptation to deal with hot or cold. A quick dip in a sauna or freezer won't kill the human, but prolonged exposure to cold or heat will.
>stress
Humans are liable to chew their limbs off if not given enough stimulation. Too much stress leads to hormonal, sleep, cardiovascular, and mental issues, and eventually kills the human.

The biggest reason is that humans can purify water, make coats and shelter, and entertain one another. We use our heads. Fish use a "live to fuck, good enough" r-type reproduction strategy, so they aren't well adapted to keeping individuals of the species alive. There's no reason to make the species hardier to live through stress and unfit conditions if there's a haven somewhere else the population is booming in.
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>>2036418
Very good post, but you're wasting your time since he's just shitposting.
See >>2036270
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>>2036172
>tilapia
If you do it where is this lake so I can fish for dinner?
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>>2036040
You can superbly a plastic leaf to a suction cup and get the same effect.

>>2036210
>>2036211
Pond/bladder snail. The kind that people complain about infesting their tanks.
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>>2036534
>superbly
*superglue
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>>2036534
I can testify that betas can get lazy. Mine lay on the leaves of their live plants and under them, too, if it's chilly.
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>>2035970
>>2035970
New thread
>>2035970
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