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Discuss anything aquarium related here, including inhabitants, decor and issues.

Google is your friend.
Feel free to ask questions but know that there are a lot of resources out there that could answer your question a lot faster and accurately than /an/.

Make sure to include these things in your post before asking because we can't help you if we don't have the full picture:
-tank size
-parameters
-any and all inhabitants + how long you've had them

Links:
>How to cycle your tank:
http://pastebin.com/x4WnB0Ah (embed) (embed)
>General aquarium care sheets - http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/
>Livestock and plants for sale - http://www.liveaquaria.com/
>FUCKING GOOGLE
>http://www.google.com
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>liveaquaria

Sometimes I wished I lived just south of the border to enjoy shit like this. I live like just a 4 hours drive from the US.
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>>2026434

nigga doesnt check his fish before buying them LMAO
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Based puffer fish.
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Hurry up and breed more already! My writhing mass isn't big enough.
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Would a 55 bowfront look good with a design like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hM2EyrKp4H0
I'm planning to get 2 zig zag eels, 2 peacock eels, and 1 black ghost knife, and possibly transfer my moonlight gourami and my dragon goby.
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>>2026437
Where can I get cheaper tanks, either new or used? I need a 40 gal breeder for my turtle but I don't want to spend 120 dollars on the little cunt.
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>>2026644
craiglist lol
they have a 150 gallon in NJ for only 500 dollars
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I posted in the last thread about a 100 gal salt water tank already set up with stock and coral for $950. I live an hour away and moving this thing sounds like it's going to be a horrible experience. I have a pickup but yeah.

Kicking up all that sediment is surely going to fuck the water up, and having no tank here I can't have 100 gallons of new water waiting. I am expecting a 100% loss but still hoping for the best

>>https://baltimore.craigslist.org/for/5378643696.html
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>>2026643
Why wouldn't you get some kind of clear pipe so you can see and enjoy your fish?
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>>2026662

Bite the bullet and spend 50 bucks on drums.
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>>2026650
500 for 150 gal sounds averagely priced. I looked on Craigslist and the only deals I could find was just 10 dollars off a heavily used 40 gal.
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>>2026080
Stiphodons have identical care requirements, and danios and white clouds do well in high flow setups like they like.

>>2026153
They need clean, cold water and high O2, usually provided by having high water flow. Other than that it's just making sure they eat, because they're algae eaters and can sometimes be picky about eating prepared food. The hardest part about keeping them in a ten gallon would be preventing temperature fluctuations and keeping the water clean enough.

>>2026262
For HC to carpet properly, it needs high light, high CO2, and a substrate with high CEC, which plain gravel doesn't have. If PetSmart is the only pet shop near you, you're better off getting CarribSea FloraMax and using root tabs.
Cycle bacteria live on surface area, so you're better off transferring some gravel or filter media to the new tank.
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>>2026548
How many are in there? And how big is the tank?
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>>2026644
Either wait to get one cheap on Craigslist or scope out a $1/gal sale.

>>2026489
Flagfish gon eat yo skrimp, and maybe the minnows.

I was going to suggest shiners and darters before I saw the tank size. 10 gallons is kind of hard to work with for cold water fish. If it's not going to get below 65, you could do guppies or endlers.
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Are rams hard to keep? Thinking of getting one for my 20 gallon
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>>2026643
If you think it looks good in that video, then sure, I guess.
The tank in that video is abhorrently stocked. I'm not familiar with zigzag eels but 55 gallons is a really tight squeeze for a black ghost knife, and they aren't flexible enough to be able to maneuver those tight bends once they start getting bigger.
I'm also pretty sure dragon gobies are brackish.

>>2026688
Bolivian rams are easy, but not as pretty as German rams. German rams can be hit or miss. If your water is fairly soft and you can keep it really warm and really clean, it should be fine. You should also consider Apistogramma cichlids as alternatives.
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>>2026677
Petco is having a 1$ gallon sale
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>>2026662
>Yellow Tang
Fucking asshole
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>>2026698
Up to 55 gallons.
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>>2026701
Don't worry, if I get the tank I will flush it down the toilet first thing.
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>>2026705
>>2026701
What's so bad about a yellow tang?
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>>2026704
He was looking for a 40 breeder.
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>>2026705
I guess I should read the thread.

So my male lyretail mollies never pass that triat on to the fry.
The sails get passed on, but not the lyretails.
The mother is a normal marble mollie
Is there something I should be doing or should I get lyretail female?
Idk. Is it just luck?
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>>2026725
if you've tried this multiple times that means it's a recessive trait, just keep trying
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>>2026744
If it's recessive and the female doesn't have a recessive allele for it, it's never going to happen.
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>>2026698
It must be local. I was just there an hour ago and all I got was a very rude bald man trying to sell me makeup and an overpriced top for my current tank.
>>2026687
I'll look for 1/gal sales in the area and ask around, hopefully I can find a cheap one quick.
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Saltwater reef master race reporting in.

My peppermint skrimp bro.
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Good lord. Did I just get trolled? I tried my luck with fishless cycling with a raw shrimp in a nylon pocket AND IT SMELLS SO BAD. It's only been about 5 hours! This is my bedroom!

If this is a troll, you got me good. Fuck.
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>>2026789

No, it's not a troll.
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>>2026686
Three and it's a pretty heavily planted 5g. These guys really don't fight except trying to steal bloodworms from each other. They are so cute.
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Just noticed that the insides of the return pipe of my external filter is coated in shit which I can see through the slightly transparent walls.

Is that normal?
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>>2026437
Wish fish do the jews fear?
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>>2026644
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>>2026847
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>>2026665
no lol, i like the pipe work because it makes it more exciting to see your fish
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>>2026696
Dragon gobies can survive in freshwater just fine, i had him for over a year and a half with my kuhlis and peacock eel.
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>>2026696
and also im getting a custom 400 gallon by the end of next year for the larger fish
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>>2026746
What if i breed the father with one of his female fry? We she have the nesscery genes or would the offspring be retarded from repeated gene expression or some shit I'm stupid.
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>>2026714
Not him but I just got a 40 breeder at petco.

Spent another $320 on the base, heater, filter, lid, and light... But hey. The tank was like, so cheap.
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Someone gave me a baby bristle nose pleco today
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>>2026707
>>2026707
Nobody has the tens of thousands of gallons to make them happy. Not a single damn one of us.
They are wild and free fish, not like shut-in clownfish. They really do travel a lot in the wild.>>2026707
Nobody has the tens of thousands of gallons to make them happy. Not a single damn one of us.
They are wild and free fish, not like shut-in clownfish.(or us) They really do travel a lot in the wild. They don't want to breed in captivity ether.
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Any suggestions on where to buy aquarium wood online? I've got no good pet shops in my area.
It seems like everything on amazon is hit or miss
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Wow. My entire house smells like shit now because of the shrimp cycle method. I am never doing this again.

How am I even going to sleep is beyond me.
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>>2027004
thewoods.outside
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>>2027004
I bought some wood on amazon it was a random piece I didn't get to choose. Meh.
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>>2027004
Try ebay. Search for either manzanita or malaysian driftwood.
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>>2027014
That's what you get instead of just buying a few give away fish to cycle your tank
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>>2027014
You can cycle your tank with your piss. No joke. Just drink lots of water and once it starts coming out almost clear then piss in it.
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>>2027015
That place has really shitty customer service and half the wood is unusable for the aquarium. If their prices weren't so good I would have stopped going years ago.
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My ghost shrimp are doing fine... But... Well I have 6 in a 10 gallon and now I'm thinking of fish. What fish would be great with ghost shrimp?
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>>2026974
>What if i breed the father with one of his female fry?
Roughly 25% of the resulting fry should have lyretails.
>would the offspring be retarded from repeated gene expression or some shit
Eventually, if you keep breeding them back like that. You're going to have to learn to be okay with culling the Down's babbys if you want to get into thile breeding scene.

>>2026984
>base
Build one or use old fashioned solid furniture
>heater, filter
Amazon
>lid
Chicken wire and some wood bits
>light
Home Depot shop light and Amazon for bulbs

Not that I know why you're replying to that post anyway.
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>>2027004
Amazon has good prices on mopani and Malaysian, and http://www.bloomsandbranches.com/mobile/Product.aspx?ProductCode=SB18SUP seems like a good deal for manzanita.
With all of those places, though, you don't get to see the wood until after it arrives. Supposedly you can message the Amazon sellers when you place your order and ask for a general shape, but who knows how close they'll get.
Any site I've seen that posts special pictures for each individual piece of wood charges two or three times as much for them.

>>2027078
Most things under two inches and not known for being aggressive, though it'll depend on the individual fish's personality for some, like gourami.
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>setup 20g tank
>get ready to start cycling 4 days later
>test water for reference point with that api kit
>~.75 ammonia ppm

I tested my tap water and it was clean so it's definitely something in the tank. All I had in the tank prior to the test were rocks, all-purpose sand, and fake silk plants. The sand and plants are new and were bought within the last 7 days. The rocks are from my backyard. I did that test with vinegar to see if it would leech anything into the tank but they seemed OK so I gave them a boiling water rinse, let them dry, and stuck in in my tank.

Any ideas? I'm stumped. I guess I could add my bottled bacteria but there's no point if I'm going to have a solid source of ammonia in the tank like that.

Perhaps some hard to spot organics on the rocks? I didn't notice any while rinsing, but would dead bugs in the sand be enough to hit ~.75?
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>>2026705
>>2026701
>>2026707
>>2027003
They have been bred recently. Also they tend to school in the wild and people usually keep them alone. Though I am usually disappointed when I find out a popular pet is almost always wc like land hermit crabs.
http://reefbuilders.com/2015/11/10/yellow-tang-update/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-j1nGdbKwE
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>>2026848
Not gonna lie, that set up looks dank as fuck, yo.
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I can't afford an aquarium and I am not giving away my arowana. 30 gallons should be big enough in my eyes.
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How much of a leap in skill us it to keep CRS shrimp from RCS?

I have a 20l shrimp tank with about 30 rcs and 2 amanos that has been set up for a while.
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>>2027236
Not much more difficult. You just need soft, acidic water for the CRS. This means you will need to use some sort of buffering soil like ADA Aquasoil and/or RO water depending on how hard your water is.
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>>2026437
Is the coloring in my tank from the driftwood safe for my betta?
I'm also thinking of getting him some snail friends and maybe a clam to be clean up any excess food.
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>>2027420
Yes, they are tannins and generally beneficial. They have anti fungal properties and it will make you betta more comfortable.

Do not get a clam, they are fucking awful. They don't move and you can't tell when they die and when they do the release enough ammonia to bomb a tank in hours.
I also believe they are filter feeders so won't even work as a clean up crew.
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>>2027424
>generally beneficial
>anti fungal properties
I thought this was just from Indian almond leaves and not just any random tannin.
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>>2027424
Alright so what kind of filter feeders should I get for him? Its a 2.5 gallon tank and I know that bettas aren't supposed to have fish buddies. So I'm getting him a filter feeder friend like a snail.
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>>2027425
Tannin comes from a lot of things
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>>2027437
>Tannin comes form a lot of things
>just any random tannin
Which is my point. Are you sure that tannins from random drift wood is actually beneficial?
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>>2027428
>I don't know what I'm talking about
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>>2027428
>filter feeders
>snails
Wow, do you know anything about animals?
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>>2027440
I'm already drunk
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>>2027428
Snails would be fine. Maybe even a fiddler crab. But snails for sure. Apple snails are fine but so are Malaysian trumpet snails which you might get for free with any plant purchase are your lfs like I did.
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Does putting water from an established tank into a new tank really cycle it?

Also can I tie anubias to a rock with normal thread? Do you think this rock is too smooth for it to attach
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>>2027463

1. No. The bacteria you want are on the surfaces of objects, not the water column.

2. No. Yes. Use superglue.
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>>2027470
Bacteria will grow very quickly though. I have always did this with new tanks and it only took a few days for cycle.
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>>2027472
>it only took a few days for cycle.
no it didn't.

it takes a 4-6 weeks whether you add bacteria or not.
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I just cycle with the fish in. It's hard on some, but I know most can handle it.
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>>2027428
Snails aren't filter feeders. If you want something to eat algae, get a single nerite snail or some kind of "pest" snail. If you want anything else, get a bigger tank.

>>2027440
Yes. Tannic acid is antibacterial by nature. IAL (also oak, alder cones, etc) release a myriad of other probiotic and antimicrobial chemicals in addition to tannins, which is why they're so highly recommended.

>>2027455
>fiddler crab
Absolutely fucking not.
>Apple snails
Still a bad idea because they're poo machines.
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>>2027475
Weird. Everything was at zero besides nitrates being at 10ppm
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>>2027476
You can literally piss in a tank and it will cycle it. Cycling is just a meme anyway.
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>>2027443
>>2027441
>>2027441
Oops my bad, I meant algae eaters.

>>2027506
>>2027506
Why not a fiddler crab?

>>2027455
I'll get a nerite then.
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>>2027538
Get a hillstream loach like ops picture. The loach stays small and eat algae like no other with a very small bio load.
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>>2027463
Water no, but used filter media works just fine.
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>>2027549
water yes, but it is slower but quicker to build bacteria than starting fresh. Scraping bacteria on to new filter helps a lot.
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>>2027475
>ignoring facts
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>>2027569
the reason anecdotes aren't accepted facts is because the person observing them may be an idiot.
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I have four guppies and a zebra danio in a planted 20 gal tank. They seem to be doing fine. I've had them for 5 months, and everything has been great, besides some major fuckups on my part, but for the past 4 months, it's been great.

The problem is the two biggest, most social and "alpha" guppies have switched up the hierarchy. The biggest girl has been hiding under pieces of bark I had in there. I took the bark wood out. She hides in the corner now. She acts very defensive, like during feeding, she'll grab a stray flake and swim away really fast, will flare, and generally hide somewhere the other fish are not swimming in if she's not just floating there in the corner. She'd be under the bark right now if it were still in there. I could put it back...

I'm thinking she's feeling stressed about this smaller fish kind of coming up in the hierarchy. This little fish would ALWAYS be late to the feeding, always just be a baby guppy. Now, the corner swimming alpha, the little guppster, and this other newer gupp (5 months old, the others might even be something like 7 or 8 months old) just chill together, while the biggest guppy hides.

Should I introduce male guppies to the tank? I only have access to PetCo, and I'm thinking of going in and asking specifically for male guppies. You think it might balance all the estrogen in there? It's like a group of girls, and the leader of the group is mad that the other three have been nice to the unpopular girl. It seems like jealousy and not illness, because it's been going on for two months (hiding under bark), and she seems fine.
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>>2027614
I'm sorry... I think they're all males. I'm retarded. They have very flowy, big, long tail fins, rich coloration, and those little squiggly fins under their bellies. Does that change the psychology of what is going on? The big guppy hiding away lately loves seeing me. They all really love me, but this one in particular seems to act like, "PLEASE SAVE ME." I'm thinking I should buy six females to appease the 4 males in the tank? And some zebra danios so this lonely trooper who has been with me for a LONG time has some buddies again... seems the genetics on a lot of the danios sucked badly, and two of them simply choked on rocks. This guy is smart enough not to do that kind of shit.
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>>2027546
But it'll be int eh same tank as a betta, I don't think that'll be safe for the loach. Unless hell be okay?
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>>2027637
A 2.5 gallon is too small for a hillstream loach. Also you won't won't be able to supply the oxygenation and water flow needed for it to thrive. Just go with a nerite snail.
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>>2027640
Yeah I knew loaches got pretty big. I'll stick with inverts for him
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>>2027637
Bettas are fine with lots of other fish, but a 2.5 is far too small for any other fish. If you're able to upgrade him to a 10 gallon tank or larger in the future, you can consider putting other fish in the tank with him.
Hillstream loaches have very specific requirements, though, and all pretty much exactly the opposite of a betta's.
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Alright I got this 29 gallon that has around 8~ ph and is pretty god damn hard. It's straight from a well and has a decent amount of heavy metals. I intend to add more java moss in an attempt to eat up those heavy metals. I also recently switched out the HOB for a sponge filter for better filtration.

So what would go well in here? I've been caught between Tanganyika Cichlids, cory cats + top dwelling showcase, or some sort of dwarf rainbow fish. I'm open to any suggestions though. My goal is to either go for a species only or a specific biotope in hopes for more natural interactions.
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>>2027668
Most cories do better in soft water. It's a bit small for most rift lake cichlids, but some of the smaller ones would do well. Certain Pseudomugil species (pictured is P. signifer) or Melanotaenia praecox would work, or you could do livebearers.
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>>2027664
Really? What kind of fish species are compatible with bettas? And it used to be my quarantine tank and I had 6 fish in there at a time and they were all healthy.
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>>2027678
Yeah I know some very select Cory cats (Rarer) types can survive in hard water/high ph. Same for certain types of rift cichlids being small enough for a 29.

Though honestly I had my eye on Pseudomugil species but almost all of them had capped out at 7.5 ph. Do you think they would be alright with water .5-.7 over? If not would I be better off with Praecox?
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>>2027605
>still avoiding facts
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>>2027640
Thought he had a bigger tank. I had one for 11 years in a 20 long. The oxygenation isn't that hard to achieve but the flow isn't needed only if you're creating a hillstream environment for them.
>>2027647
Hillstream only get 3 inches maybe. Mine was about 2.5 inches. But damn can those boys keep algae away.
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>>2027694
I feel like answering your question would come dangerously close to enablement at this point.
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>>2027702
P. furcatus and P. cyanodorsalis are recommended up to 8-8.5, and they'd probably be fine higher if you acclimate them gradually. Apparently P. gertrudae has been found in pH as high as 9+.

>>2027715
Yeah, hillstream loaches often die from starvation because they're such good algae eaters.
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>>2027748
Did you just go full retard? In my 11 years of owning them not one has died of starvation. They will though if you don't fucking feed them. Algae disk and left over whatever you feed your fish plus they destroy algae. After mine died at 11 years old even though they a average 8-10 I started having algae problem. So I bought another and it's gone.
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>>2027748
The website that I'm thinking of purchasing some gertrudae said they recommend 6.5 - 6.8 ph for the acclimation process.

I'm generally not that worried but does anyone know if it would be safer to drip acclimate over the standard float while adding water over a hour?
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New to the hobby and considering getting a 55 gallon tank. It would be planted and have some meme fish in it. I'm interested in CO2 and learning the basics before putting any fish in it beforehand.

I read the "sticky" and other stuff. Any other advice or recommendations?

Also, how important is KH or gH if I learn how to maintain the pH?

I'm looking to keep various tetras, black mollies, maybe silver sollars, a Boesemani rainbow, and some amano or cherry shrimp. (Maybe a Pleco or an oto).

I like the Iwagumi style, so I'd cut down on the types of fish.

Thanks
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>>2027790
I didn't say yours died of starvation, just that that's a common cause of death. Like the way people buy otos when they have a square inch of green fuzz because "They're such great algae eaters!" then they die three weeks later because duh.
Good on you for doing well by your little algae dude, though.
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>>2027814
I wouldn't recommend keeping a Bosemani rainbows and black mollies in the same tank. Mollies need to be in brackish water in order to survive which none of the other fish (albeit some tetras) you have listed are. Rainbow fish also change colors depending on their mood which is why it's recommended to get them in medium sized school (6 - 12) but you'll find best results in higher counts.

Picking a tetra species, a Rainbow species, and a shrimp species to exist in a community tank would be your best bet. Even more so picking them on the basis of the same natural biotope would be better.

As for CO2, planted aquariums, and specifically their interactions with some Rainbowfish in mind I would recommend "The Ecology of a Planted Aquarium" by Walstad which is considered an essential. It will also teach you about "low tech" aquariums which can thrive just as much as a "high tech."

Either way welcome to the hobby and happy research
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>>2027823
Awesome. Thanks for your help.
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>>2027813
The thing is, there are native populations all over Australia, so depending on where they were collected and the time of year, they could have come from a pH anywhere from 4 to 9. If the water the fish were being kept in was above 7, I'd give the drip method a shot.

>>2027814
Don't use any sort of chemicals to adjust GH, KH, or pH. As long as you aren't in the extremes in any of those areas, most fish should be fine if you acclimate them gradually.
Silver dollars and bosemani rainbowfish are schooling fish. I wouldn't recommend keeping both in a 55, but either one would be good.
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>>2027815
I'm drunk so excuse any anger. Hill stream loach are really ever sold at chains. I only see them at hardcore fish stores where the people will actual talk people out of getting certain fish. They're fun to watch when the swoop over my corys or baby bristle nose. It's kind of like watching a bird of prey except all he does is land on top and have a seizure till they leave his algae spots. They're my favorite next to oscars and green and red terrors.
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>>2027815
Or when they buy a common pleco for there 10 gallon tanks because the store said all they eat is algae and will only grow to the size of the tank. I bought one for a 20 long and didn't do research and the fucker went from 3 inches to 6 inches in a few months. Now he has a home in a large tank.
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>>2027839
>I'm drunk
Me, too. Happy New Year, fish bro. Hillstream loaches are great. I probably spent a full five minutes just watching one's heart beating when they popped up at the local PetSmart by chance. I was a little disappointed to see them there, since I know the PetSmart employees didn't know shit about taking care of them.

>>2027841
>"Common plecos eat poop, so they make your tank even cleaner than if they weren't there!"
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>>2027741
Enablement of what?
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>>2027874
not them, but overcrowding I bet. a 2.5 is stupid tiny
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>find out there's a dedicated shrimp store 2 hours from me that doesn't sell shrimp for astronomical prices like general fish stores.

Think I might go.

Thinking about getting a few painted red rcs to improve the genes of my colony.

Might get a few black crystal shrimp too. They can live with rcs and not breed right?
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i got a snowflake eel for xmas and i put it in my 30 gallon community tank. i know they are saltwater, but according to many scientific journals they should be able to at least survive in freshwater, after all we are keeping fishes in a box so not all of them thrive, they only survive it doesn't make a difference.

the only problem is it's becoming very sluggish, what can i do?
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>>2027955
It'll be dead soon
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>>2027971
that's what i'm worried about. it might be parasites since this eel was definitely caught in the wild. i will treat the tank with melafix and pimafix now
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>>2027976
If it's an actual snow flake eel it will not survive in freshwater. They will not convert. If it was marketed as "fresh water snowflake eel" then it isn't a snowflake eel or a eel at all.
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>>2027976
or it's because youre keeping a saltwater fish in freshwater
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>>2027955
Your eel is dying b/c there's no pleco to eat its poop. You need at least 3 plecos, make sure to get the common ones and not the algae eating ones. Don't worry if there's a thick layer of shit in the bottom of your community, that's just more poop for the plecos to eat.
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>>2027955
>i know they are saltwater, but
no but
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>>2027996
awful bait
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>>2027992
>>2027995
it's a snow flake eel aka Echidna nebulosa. i know it's originally found in saltwater, but many scientific journals indicate it's possible for saltwater eels to survive in freshwater environments and vice versa. i doubt it's because of that, i'm thinking it's parasites because all eels are wild caught, who knows what they were infected with to begin with plus the stress of being caught and shipped around. i'll do my best for the little guy.
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>>2028001
>many scientific journals indicate it's possible for saltwater eels to survive in freshwater environments and vice versa. i doubt it's because of that
you misunderstood the journals and it's definitely because of that.
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>>2028003
>you misunderstood the journals
i know you're trying to dismiss what i'm saying because it's contradictory to everything you've read on online forums by casual hobbyists and what not, but no. there are definitely articles on google scholar that specifically talk about the resilience of eels and their internal mechanism for adapting to different salinity levels, such as the freshwater/brackish eels being able to survive in saltwater and vice versa. look it up.
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>it's scientifically possible to live with half a brain therefore I'm removing half of mine
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>>2028011
They don't stay there indefinitely. They eat, maybe leave babbies, and leave.
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>>2028014
let us know how that works out for you?
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>>2028011
holy shit, you are actually retarded
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>>2028011
>a few eels can do a thing so all of them can
that's just not how it works. they're different animals. google pictures of them, they don't even look alike.
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>>2028015
everything according to science is indicative of soft evolution.

>>2028024
i'm definitely a lot smarter than your sheepish ass parroting things you've read on forums instead of really thinking about it for yourself or digging deeper into the available and reliable information.

>>2028025
i will paraphrase what i read on a scientific journal - while their internal anatomy functions differently across different species, their integral structures are not divergent enough for us to assume it's impossible for them to adapt differently.
>google pictures of them, they don't even look alike.
yeah, no shit.
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Hey so I just got my first aquarium and I've put some mollies in it. I've read that in freshwater you should put aquarium salt in. What if I want other fish in the tank as well? Will freshwater fish survive with the aquarium salt? Is the aquarium salt even necessary? They seem to be doing alright now.
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>>2027919
>Might get a few black crystal shrimp too. They can live with rcs and not breed right?
Correct. RCS are neocaridina, black crystals are caridina. They don't crossbreed.
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>>2028030
You're right, many eels can survive in fresh or marine aquariums, including most morays. However, these eels are much more susceptible to parasitic and bacterial infections when kept in freshwater, and their lifespans are significantly shorter. They may live 10+ years in saltwater, but maybe 2 years in very hard freshwater.

Schäfer, F. (2005): Brackwasserfische.- Aqualog spezial, 80 p., p. 43-45 (in German).

Talwar, P.K. and A.G. Jhingran (1991): Inland fishes of India and adjacent countries. vol 1.- Balkema, 541 p. p. 79.
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>>2028032
I got tons of mollies with other fish and don't use salt.
More mollies are hard fuck.
But if you do a brackish tank you can get a fiddler crab.
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>>2028043
thanks for letting me know instead of lashing out at me almost irrationally like some people in here. i am treating the tank with melafix and pimafix now, 1/2 the dose since eels are scaeless.
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>>2028047
They rationale is that you are dumb.
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>>2028050
>They rationale is that you are dumb.
>They rationale

lol

anyhow, i knew it was going to be an unpopular opinion to push for this experiment among these tumblr-tier neon tetra keeping sjws. i got the eel as an xmas gift and it's being "quarantined" in the 30 gallon freshwater community for 30 days, which is something what i always do before putting any fish into my 240 gallon fowlr. the only problem is, my saltwater quarantine tank is a home to my peacock mantis shrimp now. also my rationale being that the pathogens in these two types of water do not cross contaminate.
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>>2027222
What page is this pic from?
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>>2028047
Tea tree oil is about useless for internal parasites. Might help if fungus was your issue.
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>>2028055
>the pathogens in these two types of water do not cross contaminate.
You're only seeing half the picture. Your eel isn't going to carry freshwater pathogens into the saltwater tank, true, but those pathogens could wreak havoc on the eel while it's in the freshwater tank. The purpose of a quarantine is to protect your main tank AND ensure the health of your new fish. You're only doing the former.
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>>2028059
i know, but pimafix and melafix do wonders for external parasites. for internal parasites, i use jungle parasite clear.

>>2028060
>those pathogens could wreak havoc on the eel while it's in the freshwater tank.
>could
this is an incomplete assumption. i highly advise you to read up on the adaptation of moray eels and their anatomy functions.

>The purpose of a quarantine is to protect your main tank AND ensure the health of your new fish. You're only doing the former.
did you not read what i said here? >>2028055
carrying over my abovementioned sentiment, what you're saying is inaccurate and it's obvious you're using this case as a gauge to project the ideals about yourself in order to radiate a certain positive connotation of being a fish tank activist. if you knew anything having a large and expensive saltwater aquarium, you would know that your main display tank before a random xmas gift. get over yourself.
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>>2028072
>look guys, I'm using a thesaurus
you're special kind of fedoralord, aren't you?
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>>2028084
>using undergraduate level vocabulary
>thesaurus
i'm sorry i'm not using your $10 community college words to make it easier for you

>fedoralord
your meme is stale bucko
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>>2026437
How do I fuck a fish?
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>>2028001
>i'll do my best for the little guy.
>except keeping him properly by any measure of the term
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How to kill my neon tetra painlessly? It's been two years and all they do is sit and barely swim. Only go nuts when I feed them.
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>>2028047
My god you are just one biblically dense motherfucker, aren't you?
I'm pretty sure I could get a dog to live two years in a kennel stewing in his own shit, so it must be okay as long as I'm constantly pumping him full of antibiotics to keep him "healthy."
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>>2028056
aqadvisor.com
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>>2028118
Can't you just give them away?
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>>2028122
Thanks m8
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>>2028125
And let some child abuse them in a sponge bob or 10 gallon tank?
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I didn't want to make a new thread, but can anyone tell me what kind of fish this is? He was at a local brick and mortar business I like to patronize over the terrible Petsmarts that keep driving everyone else out of business. I have never seen anything else like it. This is the only picture he would sit still for.
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>>2028150
Looks like a bichir.
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>vampire shrimp are 12cm fully grown

Christ mine is a third that size. They must live a long time then.
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>>2028150
Looks like a Polypterus delhezi.
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>>2028150
Some kind of a bichir, by my far my favourite fish. They're always active despite being nocturnal and nearly blind.
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My pleco has been looking a bit unhappy lately.

Should I buy more fish do he'll have more poop to eat?
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>>2028158
No fish eats poop.
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>>2028121
i always find it hilarious when these loud, noble and self-righteous creatures come out of the woods being accusatory about something they don't even understand.

for the record, i have stated explicitly how moray eels are equipped with the evolutionary mechanics to adapt to different salinity levels per scientific findings and also it's going to be a 30 day quarantine process before going into my 240 gallon main saltwater display tank.

so if you think(i'm using this word jokingly) you are playing this song and dance by using a flawed analogy to this situation which frankly doesn't even apply, please feel free to resist the bodily pressure to act like an absolute moron and think with your head.
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>>2028150
>Polypterus delhezi.
this is correct. presumably a wild-caught specimen as captive bred ones have drastically reduced banding.
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>>2028150
>patronizing a business over petsmart
>they don't even label the fucking fish
ugh
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My boss needs me to feed his fish while he's away. I have no fucking clue how much to give them. If I give them too much, will they perish. pls respond
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>>2028167
>have stated explicitly how moray eels are probably equipped with the evolutionary mechanics to adapt to different salinity levels, so I'm going to stress the fuck out of it for a month because I'm too lazy to set up a proper quarantine tank.
I mean christ, just siphon 10 gallons out and throw a sponge filter in there.
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>>2028176
how long is he going to be gone? if it's like 3 days just give them a tiny amount, basically nothing.
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>>2028181
He'll be gone for a week. Thank you anon, was stressing out. Is there a way to keep the big fish from stealing food from the widdle fishes
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Does anyone use moonlight lighting in their tank? I'd quite like to try this as I have some inverts that are more active st night.

They seem pretty bright though. What's the deal can the animals now see blue light?
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>>2028183
ok, so if the fish are healthy now none of them are going to starve to death in a week, so don't worry too much. as long as the heater and aerator and filter keep working it'll all be fine. as far as how much food, I don't know, take some picture or describe the situation.
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>>2028178
>how moray eels are probably equipped
>probably
i'd much take the words from esteemed biologists than a clueless poster from 4chan

>I'm too lazy to set up a proper quarantine tank
my quarantine tank is a permanent home to a peacock mantis shrimp which is something i bought with my own initiatives. however this snowflake eel was a random and unexpected xmas gift from a family member. the snowflake eel is doing fine, it's taken ownership of the lava rock cave landscape and ate a few pieces of squid for me.

please continue your elongated huffy and puffy session, it's mildly amusing. i might even send over a delivery of long-stemmed roses when you are hospitalized from a stumpy foot.
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>>2028158
Why do people insist on having plecos but have no idea what the fuck to do with them. Vegetable matter bottom sinking pellets.
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I grabbed a 60 gallon tank from petsmart in the boxing day sales... I've finally set it up and filled it with water... tossed in a dose of seachem dechlorinater.

Now my concern is that there are a few blobs of oil on top, perhaps mineral oil?


Basically, I'm thinking I missed a step in prepping a new tank already, and I haven't even added anything but the water and turned the lights on
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>>2028209
northfin kelp wafers ftw.

If I use algae wafers my angels fight my pleco over it... the kelp ones they won't touch.
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>>2028072
>it's obvious you're using this case as a gauge to project the ideals about yourself in order to radiate a certain positive connotation of being a fish tank activist.
This is even better than bugguy.
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>>2028209
>>I'm too lazy to set up a proper quarantine tank
Pretty sure he was just trolling senpai
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>>2028221
Did you dechlorinate the water?
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>>2028263
>tossed in a dose of seachem dechlorinater.
>Did you dechlorinate the water?

>the reading level of most of /an/
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>>2028263
Yes, I used some seachem stuff.. is it possible the seachem stuff added the oil?
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>>2028318
Did you touch the water with your fingers?
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>>2028221
Could it just be a protein film?
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>>2028415
He ate some nuggets then touched the water
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Omg where do I find these shrimp? I only found out they existed 5 minutes ago on youtube. I never see them listed among ornamental shrimp type lists and I've never seen them sold.
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>>2028427
>file name
Not today friend
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>>2028427
Liveaquaria
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>>2028427
>being interested in these

cuck confirmed.
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How do you effectively transport fish that require really high temp like discus?
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>>2028443
hand warmers.

discus are fine at normal tropical temps though.

anywhere from 75f to 84, with somewhere around 78 being ideal.
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>>2028461
>hand warmers

Some hand warmers get way too hot. It would be safer to get one of those uniheat packs that are designed for this purpose. i prefer the 72 hour one since it's proven to be the most consistent in temperature without spiking up/down.
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>>2028443
How long will you be transporting them? I've seen them at auctions where they sat in small bags for 6 hours at room temperature (70-72F) and were fine. If you're overnighting them I'd throw in a heat pack designed for this purpose.
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>>2028188
>my quarantine tank is a permanent home
pick one.
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>>2028176
One pinch sprinkled across the top. Watch them eat. If it's all gone within 2 minutes, add one more pinch. Repeat. Feed only once every other day.
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New to the hobby. I feel like I wasted 10 bucks buying bottled bacteria. My ammonia is not getting eaten at all according to the tests. I released the bacteria 2 days ago. Do they take more time to establish themselves?
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>>2028442
How is liking shrimp cuck-worthy? Does anybody know what cuckoldry is anymore?
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>>2028614
they take 4-6 weeks to cycle whether you add bacteria or not.

the bacteria you added probably just died, adding a tiny bit more ammonia to the tank.
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>>2028615
Apparently nope. Unless the shrimp barge into your house and set up a tank in your living room to force you to rear their young I'm pretty sure shrimp have nothing to do with cukoo-ish behavior.
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>>2028614
See if the store will accept a return on account of the bacteria not working.

>>2028617
If they work correctly the tank can cycle overnight. I have seen it work before, but it usually doesn't.
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>>2028617
You can literally piss in a tank to help the cycle
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>>2028624
>the tank can cycle overnight
>>2028625
>You can literally piss in a tank to help the cycle
you should go post this stuff on a real quarium forum and see how long it takes to get banned.
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>>2028629
People have and there's science behind it besides some bad stuff that will get cycled away during the process
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>>2028625
Do you feel smart every time you say that or something? Everybody knows this. Most people don't do this because there are SO MANY other options.
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>>2028631
>some bad stuff that will get cycled away
the only things that get cycled away are ammonia and nitrite.

there's a lot of crap in your urine that isn't ammonia or nitrite.
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>>2028633
Did you get your feelings hurt?
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>>2028634
Yes that gets cycled away in the 4-6 weeks
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>>2028635
Wtf?
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Went to the Vancouver aquariuam today. Gonna post some cool tanks I saw.
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>>2028636
kek
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I positively love tanks like this that are Haag water half land. Sadly this one was pure water and there's nothing that goes on the back drop area.
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>>2028625
I've done it before. Not doing it again because I realized I still had to touch the water.
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This was an axolot tank. Sadly I couldn't get them in the shot but I got a side pic if them.
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I'm definitely biased for tropical tanks. Salt water is cool and all but there's something about that green and the fish that gets me better then saltwater.
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What do you guys think of my aquarium. The plants have finally gotten established and are growing
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Not really a tank shot but that turtle was fucking huge that it's worth posting.
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>>2028647
Nice bacopa. You should get a taller growing plant for the background. Maybe some vals?
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This was actually a fire belly toad exhibit. It's pretty cool to see them have tanks and exhibits even for common pet store animals. Lots of little tadpoles were all hiding around in the bushes.
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>>2028649
I will look In to it thanks !

Also I recently switched to a led hood and have noticed a major growth spurt so in a few weeks I may not even have the room.
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>tfw you had to get rid of all your tanks a year ago because of too much moving and shit
I'm gonna start over asap with a small planted tank, its gonna be cash
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>>2028665
Start big or go home! Start with 150 gallon planted.
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>trying to control my alkalinity with acid buffer because my water is stupidly hard
>went down by 2 drops over the last 3 days, which is great
>suddenly spiked 2 drops overnight

What could have caused this? Didn't drop anything into the tank except for acid buffer.
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>>2028639
Ah, yes, the Asian Child biotope. One of my faves.
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Okay guys what the fuck. I got 4 mollies 3 fucking days ago and now there's fry. What the fuck do I do? I've spotted 4 so far but I'm sure there's more. I don't want them in my got damn tank, so what do I do?
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>>2029013
They will be eaten and your mollies will keep having more and more and more because you're a fucking retard who bought live bearing fish who reproduce a lot
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>>2029018
Haha thanks. I knew they would reproduce a lot, but I didn't expect to have fry in less than 3 days.
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>>2029023
Love and care. Fix that shit now.
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>>2029023
>triggered
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>>2028889
Buffers don't work in the long term. Your best bet is to find fish that like hard water, or use RO or distilled water for water changes.
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>>2029030
Nah I'm tired of these basic fish
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>>2029027
My guppy had fry the same night I brought her home. You're probably gonna have fry every 6 weeks. Get a larger fish who will eat them.
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>>2029023
Add a bottle of clove oil.
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>>2029023
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>>2028614
Did you shake the bottle?
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Can I use an uncycled tank as a quarantine tank? I got this baby angel that looks weird as shit
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>>2029038
I was suggested to use the buffer after I explained that my water's general hardness is super low but its carbonate hardness is ridiculously high. Like higher than what's recommended for cichlids. She said something about the RO machine removing something that I needed from the water. Does that make sense?

I absolutely hate hardwater fish.
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>>2029087
Okay, the fish's ventral fins are sticking up like he smashed down against something, and it's gills are kinda red. Is it doomed? Should I use it to cycle the tank? I don't want it to infect my other fish
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>>2028641
>hag water
I've had that stuff before, burns like hell. I'm honestly surprised you can keep s fish in it.
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>>2029023
put your face into it. you really should.
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>>2029027
Livebearers are almost always pregnant right from the fish shop.
Livebearers reproduce crazy quick.
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>>2029094
>I absolutely hate hardwater fish.
Hardwater fish hate you too.

Do you have a spigot where you can get water before it goes through the softener? Either way you'll probably end up having to use bottled water or buying distilled water to mix with your tap if you want to keep soft water fish.
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>>2029125
I don't think you know what you're talking about.
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>>2029119
I got bored and threw the tank and everything in the dumpster. I'm done with /an/ and I'm done with fish
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>>2029023
are there still fish in there? you're an idiot
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>>2029143
Good, even the dumpster will be a better home for the fish than that horrible tank.
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>>2029141
Sorry, I thought you were saying you had a water softening system for your home tap and that it was making your water weird.
Pure RO water is bad for some fish because it can leech minerals, but you can mix your tap water with RO water until you find the ratio that gives you "normal" water parameters. Then just remember the ratio for whenever you need to do a water change.
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>>2029167
That moron wasn't me. I have a well and it has a softening system. And yeah, I believe that's what they said about the RO system.

People are just telling me to get hard water fish like I'm some retard that doesn't know that. The point is that I want to know of I can actually CONTROL my water's parameters and not be a slave to them.
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Is java moss supposed to look like this?
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>>2027955
This is a fucking troll, right?
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>>2029272
I lol'd
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>>2028099
You don't, most fish don't have sex. Females drop their eggs, then males jizz all over them to fertilize them.
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>>2029192
The vast majority of species are adaptable enough, especially when captive bred, to be kept in any reasonable conditions. Rather than constantly battling your water, just let the fish adapt to it.

If you absolutely want to have total control of the water parameters, though, an RO unit is the way to go. They're a bit pricey up front, but you'll be able to do whatever you want with the water. Not ideal for planted tanks since the plants generally like all the minerals in the water, but there are ways around that.
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>>2029241
No, I'm pretty sure it's dead.
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>>2029283
Shir, I guess I have to take it back now
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>>2029290
Yep, try and get some marimo moss to replace it with. Marimo moss is foolproof.
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>>2029291
Will it help hide fry?
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>>2027668
Tanganyikan cichlids are so cool!
I recently got some Lamprologus meleagris/stappersi and they're so facinating to watch. They need hard water and a PH of 8 is fantastic for them.
Just remember to get alot of snailshells as they are shell dwellers. Males have longer and bigger "bulldog" lips and females usually have a smaller mouth. 2 females per male is preferred so that he wont pick on the females that much.

Good luck!
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>>2029279
Yeah but I heard soft water fish can't breed for shit in hard water. The eggs themselves can't handle it.
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Guys, I'm a complete beginner trying to cycle my tank. The ammonia has been solid at 4ppm for the last 3 days. Bottled bacteria doesn't seem to do anything. Is this normal? Does it just take more time? Nitrites are still at 0 so the ammonia clearly isn't getting eaten.
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>>2029367
>Is this normal?
yes.
it takes 4 to 6 weeks to cycle your tank.
you're going to see ammonia for 2-5 weeks of that.
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>>2029364
Which soft water fish are we talking about? There aren't that many species that absolutely require soft water.
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>>2029371
Then why even bother taking ammonia tests every single day, starting from the beginning? That's what all fishless cycle guides say.

The guide I'm using explains things as if filling ammonia back up to 3ppm should be a common occurrence yet the readings haven't budged.
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>>2029163
It's 28 degrees outside
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>>2029023
>your lip liner
>your weave
>your L'Oreal hair dye
>your welfare check
>your seventh born child

>>2029395
Should clue you in to how much of a worthless cunt you are.
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>>2029387
>Then why even bother taking ammonia tests every single day
most people probably don't.

it gives you something to do though. And it gets you to buy more ammonia tests.
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>>2029412
>And it gets you to buy more ammonia tests.
Yeah because I'm sure that guy in the forum, who didn't even mention a specific brand, is secretly working for the brand you randomly picked.
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>>2029414
he didn't write the guides on cycling, did he?
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>>2029402
The water is frozen. You think the guppies, glo tetra, and albino common pleco are dead?
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>>2029151
Look closely
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>>2029421
...Yes.. He did..

Actually, you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
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>>2029442
>you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
said the little boy that doesn't know how to cycle a tank.

>why do you think they tell you to test ammonia daily?
I asked blithely.
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>>2029445
Did I say I know how to cycle a tank? No. I clearly stated I was a beginner. Again, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You can keep going if you want, donkey.
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>>2029023
>harming animals and wasting money to get attention from anonymous internet people
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>>2029453
>you don't know what the fuck you're talking about
you seem pretty sure of that for someone that's never cycled a tank before.

but you're probably right. Go back to testing ammonia every day. It's been 3 days now, I'm sure it'll cycle any minute.
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Am I tanking right?
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Can I get a rating on my young vampire shrimp? I've had her (?) for about a month now and she's finally starting to leave her hiding spots during the night. Still hides away during the days though.
Pic related, her under the filter. She's kind of light blue over her back and pale gray on the sides. Is that normal? Usually they seem to have one solid colour ranging between beige, black and blue?
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>>2029467
Mainly I'm worried I'm over crowding it
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>>2028641
vancouver yay
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>>2029471
Yeah no.that's not even crowded
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>>2029471
those are goldfish.
they grow to 5 feet long, live 89 years, and need 100 gallons per inch of fish. They eat and shit 43 times their body weight each day.
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>>2029468
That doesn't look like a vampire shrimp... The head shape is a bit off. More pics?

>>2029471
It's massively overcrowded already. Goldfish grow over a foot long each.
Return them and get a paradise fish.
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>>2029574
I think the fish on that pic is a carp, mainly because goldfish don't have those whiskers. I could be wrong tho.
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>>2029597
goldfish are carps, smartypants
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>>2029598
But they're carp without whiskers. That's just an orange carp.
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Speaking of goldfish, why do people breed these things?
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>>2029598
Nope, they are different species. Although they are both cyprinids.
>Carp (Cyprinus carpio)
>Goldfish (Carassius auratus)
Still they are both "carps" due to the whole family thing and is kinda correct. But it is like calling lion to a cat or a cheetah.
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>>2029614
no shit they are different species you fucking retard, probably took you quite some googling to come to this conclusion
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>>2029617
>goldfish are carps
>Doesn't specify if talking about carps as family or as specie.
>Point out they are not the same specie
>Of course they are different species retard!
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>>2029607
Out of pure selfishness and money
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>>2029457
You got trolled m8
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>>2029597
Eh, found it on some French news website. It doesn't matter too much anyway, carp and goldfish are almost identical, they can even interbreed. People think of goldfish as tiny due to them being kept in tanks too small, where they die young. If you give a goldfish housing similar to carp, it will grow to the same size as carp.
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>>2029614
"Carp" isn't a species, it's a group of species (a sub-family if you will) within the family Cyprinidae, which goldfish is part of. Hell, goldfish, Carassius auratus is just a domesticated form of Carassius gibelio, just as dogs are domesticated wolves. They shouldn't even be considered a different species, the hybrids of these two have been shown to be fertile in studies. So yes, goldfish are not just part of the carp group, but are the same species.
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>>2029669
Maybe is because of the language, where I live there are like two names "carpa" (the european carp, Cyprinus) and "carpín" ("little carp", aka Carassius) although that's when they are in the wild, in pet shops it is still called goldfish.But they won't reach the fuckhuge size of that pic even in a lake ,unlike "carps" (the biggest goldfish caught is apparentely 15 inches).

>>2029662
>They can even interbreed
Holy carp, this is new.
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>ask my lfs if they have root tabs
>tells me that's not actually a real thing
What did he mean by this?
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>>2029798
That root tabs are usually homemade. Go on your local craigslist or something, if you don't want to make them yourself there are usually some people selling.
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>>2029662
I didn't know platys could handle temperatures that low. I bet they would make a great alternative to goldfish for small ponds during the summer.
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I'm looking to try and breed my amanos once my female becomes berried again. She's lost 3 litters so far and I'm feeling they're going to waste with amanos being so expensive.

So when the shrimp is about to give birth do you place it in a separate freshwater tank? Do you just collect the larvae and drop them straight into salt water?

What about when the larvae metamorphosise so you need to get them quickly back into fresh?
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>>2029830
Tolerating and flourishing are different. Platys can handle those temperatures, but they're healthier at 20+.
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Any good guides on proper beta care? What size tank, water temp, filters, the whole nine yards.

Also, I know they fight other betas, but are they ok with living a solitary life, or are there any other fish they can live with?
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I keep getting this white film on the walls of my aquarium, what is it bros?
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>>2029841
http://www.bettafish.com/showthread.php?t=101401
Basics are at least 10 litres of tank, about 25 degrees water temperature, a weaker filter (to avoid fins getting sucked into the intake, since bettas are bad swimmers), and a few decorations because they like having a place close to the surface to perch on.
They're fine with tankmates, as long as they don't look like bettas and don't nip fins. I keep my betta with an amano shrimp and six harlequin rasboras.
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>>2029833
Do I need to heat the larvae tank? My room stays about 20-22c
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>>2029849
I seem to remember a thread on plantedtank about this. IIRC the guy waited until after his amanos mated and the female was carrying eggs, then moved the females into a salt tank. I don't remember if it was brackish or marine, though, and I don't remember how long he left them in there. Check plantedtank.net
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>>2029851
That would kill the shrimp. They can't tolerate salt when adults.

The young can only tolerate fresh for a few hours.

It's such a weird life cycle.
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>>2029847
>25 Degrees

I uh...I think I read that wrong
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>>2029859
Celsius.
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>>2029859
>uses litre in the previous
clause
>"Oh boy I bet those 25 degrees must be in Fahrenheit!"
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If you look closely you can see its ventral fins are sticking up against its sides and it has red gills. Is it gonna get better?
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>>2029877
That is an amazing looking angel koi, hope it pulls through.
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>>2029862
>>2029866
I forgot to scew on my head properly today.
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>>2029798
If he said there's no such thing as root tabs it means he's not very well-informed. Seachem and API make them, among others. The Osmocote tabs are homemade.
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>>2029662
The way I heard it it was a goldfish/koi hybrid.

>>2029833
Put the berried female in a separate tank, remove her as soon as she drops the larvae, then add the predissolved salt.
I think they could tolerate 20, but I'd suggest a heater anyway for the sake of stability.
Make sure you're farming some green water for them at the same time.
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Uh oh. Think I got fin rot


Side note: lemon poppy sees muffins are fucking amazimg
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>>2028893
Keked
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all of my moss turns brown. different types. java, christmas, flame, whatever. it all just dies on me. I thought this shit was supposed to be indestructible. How do I optimize moss care. What are the ideal parameters if I were to set up an only moss tank. pls help I love moss but it hates me
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>>2030060
What's your water temperature, pH, and hardness?
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>>2030092
I can go test, but what are the ideal ranges? water is room temp, no heaters. Really soft water where I live, and I only really have some limestone/coral in the tank to increase the hardness a bit. as a result ph is pretty low.
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>>2030097
Temp is fine, soft water isn't an issue at least in my experience, but low pH might be the culprit. How low is it? Also do you dose any ferts?
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>>2030102
no dosing, although I bought some nitrogen ferts because I read that might be the reason but haven't really used em. also have flourish, but I don't use it. very low tech tanks. honestly kind of neglected.

ph in aquasoil tank is 5.5, ph in sand tank is 7.5. both have moss brown on me
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>>2030103
You have bad lighting
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>>2030103
Probably the dosing then. I either have fish and snails to provide macros or I dose the containers I keep my moss in.

>>2030105
Moss can grow from low to high light levels.
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>>2030105
I thought moss was low light? ;-; I have a tank that gets less light but's growing some nice swords and stem plants. same size.
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>>2030108
one tank has like 2 shrimp, the other has no livestock besides plants. think if I put some ferts in there they'd do better? Do I need to buy anything new or can I just use the flourish?
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>>2030112
Try the Flourish first and wait about a month to see if the moss starts growing again.
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>>2030113
okay. thanks compadre. Gonna set up a little plant tank for some other stuff and throw the moss in there so I only have to dose one tank. so the 5.5 ph isn't gonna hurt anything?
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>>2030117
It's really low desu. Lowest I've kept my tank is around 6.0. Are you keeping any softwater species like CRS?
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>>2030118
yeah, CRS. I was aiming for 6.5 wit the amazonia but the kh is like 0 in our tap water, so it plummeted. been like that for a while. Water is too acidic for babies, I think. I should boost it. Maybe I'll get some seiryu stone or something.
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>>2030120
A little bit of baking soda works to bump it up but seiryu stone would be a more stable solution.
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>>2030120
Why not just grow marimo moss instead of all this complicated shit? It doesn't even need to stay in a ball, you can slice it open and attach it to rocks, wood, and even frames for carpeting effect.
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>>2030125
Yeah I try to avoid stuff where I have to keep adding. avoid swings and all that.
>>2030149
because I like the look of moss and marimo isn't moss it's algae and they're overrated and not aesthetically pleasing in the slightest in my opinion.
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Got some aquarium stuff in a trade for a terrarium. Dude gave me a 32 or 34 gal. I was kind of in a rush to get out of his absolutely disgusting apartment (animal hoarder) so I didn't notice how bad of a condition it was in. He kept a beardie in it so it's pretty dirty. I don't know what the fuck he was doing with the heating equipment but the rim was melted in a bunch of places so I just ripped it off. Can I make my own or do I have to find something on eBay?
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>>2029574
>>>2029468 (You)
>More pics?
Sorry about the wait, she still hides away during the days so I have to take pics when I turn the lights on, before she can hide.
She definitely has the fans, so the option would be bamboo shrimp, and she definitively isn't one of those. Or are there other freshwater filter shrimp out there?
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>>2030155
Not sure about the rim, but any amount of grime can be removed with barkeepers friend. It works way better than vinegar and baking soda, and it's non abrasive so no fears of scratching.

Look up the DIY King on youtube, he has a video going into detail about barkeepers friend and shows you amazing before and after shots.
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>>2030190
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>>2030159
Hmm, still looks stranger. I've heard that there are other fan shrimp species other than bamboo or vampire, but most of them are small. I have no idea what you've got there, pal. But as long as it has fans, it should be fine.
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>>2030225
>most of them are small
Well, she is pretty small. The fish in there is a cardinal tetra (looks so pale because it's still asleep) and she's only a little longer than it.
I guess she might get more vampire-like when she grows up, and if she doesn't I guess that's cool too. Curious what she might turn out to be then.
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>>2030155
They make replacement plastic rooms that you can but, or you could get some glass cut to length and go with what's called "euro bracing."
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>>2030108
No it can't
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