If women not only feel sexual pleasure, but in-fact feel it far more dramatically than men, then why do almost no women have any actual personal interest in sex aside from slutting themselves for popularity/money or whatever? Shouldn't women crave sexual pleasure just as much, if not more than men?
Even if you argue against "almost no women having actual personal desire for sex" you can not argue against the fact that men crave sex dramatically more than women do. Anywhere and everywhere makes that abundantly clear. Go to any erotic place on, say, this very website. Almost all men, no doubt, right? So why?
In the most general terms, men are about quantity and women are about quality.
You can see this trend reflected in how GENERALLY more men are okay with casual sex and more women would prefer and actual relationship.
How inefficient. If humanity was an efficient species then both male and female would be horny all the time, not just men. It is like it is designed so that men fuck multiple women and women only fuck one guy... Oh, wait. That's exactly how it is designed. Which is moronic as shit.
>then why do almost no women have any actual personal interest in sex aside from slutting themselves for popularity/money or whatever?
It's like you've never even spoken to a girl.
I'd say its more about the stigma around girls that have had multiple sexual partners than anything else really. Girls are simply not comfortable disclosing these numbers because they might be labeled as sluts like Op just did.
Another thing is that a lot of men have learned all about sex from porn but are as clueless as it gets when it gets to actually making love.
Why? Look at how the way we are has allowed us to not only survive when our relatives went extinct, but absolutely flourish to the point where we are the most dominant species we currently know about.
We objectively kicked ass as far as evolution is concerned.
Mm I don't know, the sexes aren't THAT different, but even that statement implies there certainly is a difference. For example, studies have shown men and women generally feel differently about casual sex, and men tend to have more lifetime sexual partners.
I doubt these things are completely cultural, because for one, they are found universally in numerous cultures, and two, where would that stigma even come from in the first place? Our biology. Culture isn't formed in a vacuum.
>You can see this trend reflected in how GENERALLY more men are okay with casual sex and more women would prefer and actual relationship.
Incorrect. This guy has used his own personal experience to reach this conclusion. There is no proof of any of this anywhere however we do have proof that by the age of 40 on average a woman has had almost double the sexual partners of men,
>feel it far more dramatically than men
I can only achieve an orgasm when I masturbate or when it's my massager wand vibrator giving it to me. With my boyfriend, I've never had an orgasm at all. Sex is basically something I do as a favour to him out of affection, since there's nothing in it to gain for me.
Men have less nerves than women in general. How ever women have higher tolerances to those nerves.
So 5 nerves firing off pleasure is mindblowing for a man but a woman and her high tolerance just sees it as meh.
>I can only achieve an orgasm when I masturbate or when it's my massager wand vibrator giving it to me. With my boyfriend, I've never had an orgasm at all. Sex is basically something I do as a favour to him out of affection, since there's nothing in it to gain for me.
This. I never enjoyed sex until I found a man who was willing to listen to my needs without getting butthurt about it. I seek sex out on a near daily basis now, because it's finally something I enjoy doing.
Are you just joking?
>Median number of opposite-sex partners in lifetime among men and women aged 25-44 years of age
>sexes aren't that different
>what is estrogen
>what is testosterone
Why this "hurrr men and women aren't that different!" meme lately. Do any of you even know what sex hormones do to the human body from quite literally the womb on?
Did you read the rest of my post? I basically said the sexes have undeniable, fundamental, biological differences which can explain universal human sex differences in behavior :(
>feel it more dramatically than men
>have no interest in sex other than popularity/money
My gf would like to disagree with you, as would most other women I've met in my life
>men crave sex more dramatically
As far as what you're talking about, I think it's just availability a lot of the time. If ice cream was your favorite thing in the world, but you could only get it by going through a very specific set of steps and then only if the person with the ice cream allowed you to have the ice cream, ice cream would be a big deal to you. Conversely, if you really liked ice cream, but you knew that essentially you could get ice cream any time you wanted, you'd probably be kind of "meh" about ice cream. Tastes nice, no big deal though.
Same with sex.
You don't want more people than resources will allow. A few 1000 years ago if you just fucked all day and spouted out 10 inbred fuckers, they would drain resources before you found out they were fucked. So the instinct evolved for women to find the best stock so their children would be superior, and men need to stick their dick in everything because evolutionarily, the man that could stick his dick in the most women had more children and could propogate his dick sticking genes to the next generations.
You could try Karezza with him, it's a lot more passionate way to approach sex, due to it I've learned to appreciate the act itself more than the actual orgasm.
It's basically slow intercourse without orgasm, it's kinda like mutual edging but where you try to keep the excitement level around 5-7 on a scale where 10 is an orgasm.
Yeah but you have to understand. Its 20% of men sleeping with 80% of women. So when people make these statements they arent counting those 20% of men. The average male isnt a whore but the average female is.
we all enjoy the taste of things just as much. yet some people seem content to just eat healthy, others wont stop stuffing their faces.
the pleasure gained does not equal libido. we have chemicals telling us to get laid, not just the idea of pleasure.
Say we have a population of 10 women, 10 men. We can generate a spread of sexual partners using the percentages of activity you suggest and see what our medians are. If the men end up with the higher median (agreeing with the statistical data) then the average woman is a slut.
Male spread: 0 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 8 8
Looks like we've got two man-whores, a much greater number of committed fellows, and someone much more satisfied with the touch of his dakimakura..
That's given us 26 couplings to distribute amount our female group, 8 of whom must have slept with the two man whores from our male group.
Female spread: 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
Oh my, what a promiscuous bunch! And not a hymen to be seen, even amoungst our 20%!
Alright, down to the medians. We have 1.5 for our pure male group, and 2.5 for our lascivious wenches. Our real world data puts men at 6.6 and women at 4.3... Wait, that doesn't match with our experimental numbers... But... If that's the case... Oh no! We men were the sluts all along!
are you stupid. If you looked at your source the image on the second page would explain exactly what Im saying. Barring the percent of people who have 3 or more partners, women sleep around more than men.
I suppose that if we narrow it down to that particular graph, meaning we are now examining behaviour over 12 months rather than over a lifetime, and remove those with 3 or more sexual partners then we end up with identical percentages with two or more partners, a female one partner percentage 2-3% greater than the male percentage, and a female 0 partner percentage 2-3% lower than the male percentage, which I guess kind of supports your theory. EVEN THEN conflating a 2-3 percent discrepancy to the 60% discrepancy you started with is extremely disingenuous.
If we continue to look at lifetime sexual partners, according to the source 9.7% of men are virgins compared to 8.6 of women. 12.8% of men have had one sexual partner compared to... Wait for it... 22.5% of women! 2 partners matches up to 8.1% in men, 10.8% in women. That leaves a little over 70% of men with 3+ sexual partners and almost 60% of women with 3+ sexual partners. Men are sluttier by almost any metric you can use, but the differences aren't so drastic that either side should really be decried.
testosterone. we simply have a higher sex drive. i used to be really into body building and i took testosterone booster for a little while, my sex drive went up a crazy amount, i was wanking like 2-3 times a day.
Short & sweet answer: Less testosterone, and thus more discerning.
More in depth answer addressing other variables: Well basic conditioning for one. If a girl sucks at sex, the guy typically will still enjoy himself and experience sexual pleasure during the encounter. If a guy sucks at sex, the girl typically is SOL. With it typically taking considerably more finesse to get a girl off and guys being so easy by comparison, effectively the prevalent pattern is most guys sucking at sex where girls are concerned and most girls' sexual performance being largely irrelevant where guys are concerned.
In the absence of (/in addition to) orgasmic pleasure, girls may come to crave the intimacy shared during the act.
The odds are significantly much much higher for girls when it comes to achieving sexual satisfaction casually, and furthermore there's no bonded emotional connection to even fall back on, much less get to enjoy simultaneously.
Then of course there's the stigma surrounding girls who have casual sex and sleep around.
And on top of all that, there's the risk of sex leading to pregnancy.
Women crave good sex if & when possible opportunities for it have been made available.