A lot of people from around the world use English to communicate, and very few Americans learn a second language to the point of fluency. Also, if a company wants to hire a bilingual person, they might as well hire someone who is more fluent in that other language (eg. a Hispanic person for a job related to Spanish).
But what I've said is true. Why hire an American who only learned Spanish at college when you could just hire a Hispanic person who has been speaking Spanish since he was a kid? Also, plenty of Americans managed to find jobs abroad despite not knowing the local language.
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He posts the same thread a few times per week. Literally the same exact thread.
Anything you say to him will just be a waste of time.
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I'm an example of that. I work at a bilingual school in Paris... I didn't speak French when I got here but a year later... I feel comfortable enough. Now I'm applying for management positions in marketing that require only a basic level of French
Would you like some advice, OP?
This is a board for those seeking advice.
You've moved the goalposts, but it's the same fucking question, and you damn well know it. Repeating for others: DO NOT REPLY, or sage if you absolutely must.
My reply has not changed either: suck it up and take the class. These tantrums are getting you nowhere.
Oh wow, you actually made this thread there too. Seriously, eat a dick. There's clearly more to this situation than you're letting on, you're coming into the topic heavily biased, and your seemingly only point...
>if a company wants to hire a bilingual person, they might as well hire someone who is more fluent in that other language (eg. a Hispanic person for a job related to Spanish)
... is bullshit. There will always be american companies that will hire a white guy who's learned some Spanish over other Hispanic applicants if the white guy is more suited to the role.
Learning another language is good for your mind, and is an easily demonstrated skill which can make you seem much more intelligent.
>if the white guy is more suited to the role
Meh, would they really want to hire a white Spanish teacher instead of a Hispanic one? (and I'm not talking about white people from Spain)
Congrats, you've cherry picked a particular example. If you want to become a spanish teacher, you're going to have to study spanish to a much higher level than what people would call 'basic'. But you knew that, hence your picking this example.
Are you huffing paint or something?
What else can you do with a fucking Spanish/language degree besides teach though? Oh yeah, I guess you can work as a translator, diplomat or something like that, but seriously they can just pick a Hispanic person.
/trv/ler here. Stop polluting our board with your horseshit. You are seriously the biggest loser and failure I have seen on 4chan in a long time.
Make >>>/r9k/ your new board, you will be in good company there.
They make sense to you, because you are a cherry picking moron.
Okay, so a somewhat decent grasp of Spanish can help you get into a career as a:
Diplomatic Services operational officer
International aid/development worker
Logistics and distribution manager
However, you could also choose a career where there is simply the opportunity to use Spanish, for example working for companies who trade or offer services internationally or to non-English speaking customers and suppliers. Examples of this include:
museums and libraries;
transport and logistics
Or maybe, if you actually wanted an answer to this question (as I'm sure you really didn't), you would do a simple fucking google search for results such as this:
Personally, I hope you have an accident the next time you go outside, and don't get a chance at any of these, but that's just me.
No, what I mean is why anyone would pick someone who learned Spanish as a second language as a Spanish teacher instead of someone who speaks it as his mother tongue. It's like hiring an Asian who just moved to America from Asia as an English teacher.
Did you want to become a Spanish teacher?
If so, then you're gonna have to work hard to become as capable as the native speakers. But if 'spanish teacher' is what you're going for, you likely wouldn't have even made this thread.
>why anyone would pick someone who learned Spanish as a second language as a Spanish teacher instead of someone who speaks it as his mother tongue
I'm confident that people with a degree in Spanish know more about the language from a technical standpoint (which is incredibly useful when teaching) then native speakers who haven't actually studied spanish academically.
No, I am just using this example to illustrate my point. How the fuck can a monolingual American become as fluent/good as a native speaker when he only started to learn it at college? That's impossible. Why the fuck would a non-Hispanic American even wanna major in Spanish?
People with a degree in Spanish know more about the language from a technical standpoint (which is incredibly useful when teaching) then native speakers who haven't actually studied spanish academically.
Easily. Your logic implies that anyone who starts something earlier will be better, innately, at something else.
People have different levels of interest on learning, practice, and even aptitude. Someone who has a poor understanding of language could have a worse usage of it than a non-native speaker.
For example, I fucking hate English and when it comes to actually expressing my ideas when speaking, I personally know three non native english speakers more comfortable with the language than me, because they really like english and were willing to put in the work. (One french two hispanic.)
But your three friends probably started to learn English at a really young age. That is different from starting to learn a new language at the age of 18. It's impossible to become THAT good at a language if you start learning it when you're 18.
I mean, even if we assume it is at a really young age, we know that whatever age they started it is later than when I, as a native speaker, learned the language. But my french friend was 12 when he began to learn.
I have learned three different languages as an adult. One to full fluency. Just because you don't have what it takes to learn a new language doesn't mean everyone is as dumb as you.
Not really, most business internationally is conducted in English. The only reason I bothered learning other languages is so I could hear what those fuckers were talking about when conferring on the other side of the table.
The level of fucking arrogance you have is unbelievable. English is a language like any other, just because it's spoken more commonly doesn't mean it's any different.
English is my 3rd language out of the 4 I've learned, and I can use 3/4 languages to write essays (except for my 2nd which is Russian, since I don't put it into writing practice). As someone who's done English Literature I can tell you: there are many better books written by those who've learned English as a 2nd or 3rd language than native English speakers.
It only takes a few years to learn a language fluently (depending on the language) and only a while longer to get great at it. As an adult you have an advantage of understanding when learning a language, compared to native speaking kids who spend years learning the alphabet. I have a both native English and foreign friends, and in regards to the level of English among the two groups the foreigners have a higher level.