Twirl your hair when you talk to them and act feminine. Compliment them (relaxed though, nothing too huge) and ask what he's up to this week. Just be pleasant and if he's not picking up on any of that you can either:
Drop it because he's not interested
Ask him out straight up because maybe he's just a bit daft or has poor self esteem
>>16855475 men are usually horny desperate lonely guys with sad sexual lives, flirting with them is easy if you are being direct
men fucking hate roundabouts
be direct please for the love of fucking almighty god on heaven and his seven celestial spheres of seraphims, cherubs and thrones be direct with what you want with them and don't assume that they'll catch any innuendo
>>16855485 >be direct >please >for the love of fucking almighty god on heaven and his seven celestial spheres of seraphims, cherubs and thrones >be direct with what you want with them and don't assume that they'll catch any innuendo
Ahh but here's the rub. Don't be so OVERLY-direct you're obviously desperate.
Personally, I like direct too (my girlfriend asked me out first). But I've definitely had girls be WAY too direct ("What color is your cock? How big is it?" after 15 minutes of meeting), and it's a complete and total turn-off.
>>16855478 This is the best fucking advice. That subtle mind game shit is so incredibly annoying. It honestly stresses me out unnecessarily trying to decipher shit that could very easily just be said plainly and in the open.
I think it's wrong and sexist to say that men "don't get subtlety" - lots of men are subtle. Any meaning attached to art that is more than the surface is subtlety, and men dominate the arts. Any strategy that is more than what it appears to be is subtlety, and men dominate war and the games that substitute for them. The problem is that we're pretty much okay with subtlety for everything that isn't person-to-person interaction. Not that we don't get that kind either, but we hate it and have no patience for it. If you want a guy, don't dance around and wait and "drop hints" because you're risking him losing interest because it looks like you can't make a decision and you don't know what you want, or you're just not interested. If men pulled the same shit women do with dating, arranged marriages would be the only option because otherwise nobody would get laid. Men are given the burden of actually dispensing with subtlety and expressing simply, concisely and directly how we feel about you: if we're asking you out, then we like you. If we aren't, then we don't.
>>16856436 This also extends to the treatment of personal problems. Women tend to socialize by talking about their problems, and they "just want someone to listen to them". And then the problem goes unsolved because all that happens is talking about how you feel about it. Men find this infuriating, because our thought process is focused on effeciency. >Goal: feel good >Obstacle: problem that is making us feel bad >Solution: solve problem and thus eliminate it >Result: path to feeling good is clear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4EDhdAHrOg
Do not threaten them with a large sword, that will usually not work. If you're a dude who is gay then try looking at the dude for a long time and if he maintains that eye contact then he might be gay also so move in from there.
You'd have more chance with PUA crap than waiting for a women to be direct.
Taking charge only happens once you're already in a relationship and you can slowly train her into the role, you gotta make her comfortable with making decisions and fucking you in the ass, it takes time and it's all on you.
Stop dreaming and go train a cunt to do what you like, it's like teaching a dog tricks but they'll never figure it out themselves.
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