I am a 22 y/o KV, never experienced the warmth of a woman and I can't stand it anymore. It's plaguing my thoughts, I tried to fake it that I don't need women for validation but my biological impulses are becoming too strong. I'm not bad looking at all but I am extremely shy and awkward around women.
Will a few nights with escorts be a positive experience? Will it help with my shyness? Do they allow kissing? Can they give you tips/learn something from them? Are they all whores in real life or is this only a side-job? What was your experience with escorts?
But do you think an escort will actually give you the "warmth" you need? They likely have a detached professional approach to it so they will tell you what you want to hear as long as they cash out. You will only get an imagined feeling of significance for a woman. And do you really want to kiss someone who's had their mouth on dozens of penises for money? I mean, sure, they brush their teeth but can they brush away the emptiness of their soul?
>I tried to fake it that I don't need women for validation but my biological impulses are becoming too strong.
You are not your biological impulses. At the absolute most, these impulses are nothing more than a program that has been hard-coded into your mind, be it by millions of years of evolution or God's by command to multiply.
Once you accept this, it becomes much easier to ignore them.
What's the difference between a slut that fucks after a few drinks and a slut that is getting paid? What I mean is when you kiss a girl you've recently met, how many dicks has she sucked before you met her? You don't know and it won't change your perception of her for the moment
>Choose your escort wisely.
If you spend many nights with her, she'll probably end up being sincere.
>Don't take her compliments to heart.
As anon has already said, she'll say what you want to hear.
>Only take the compliments that you sincerely agree with.
>Be bold, and be just.
That's exactly why you shouldn't kiss a girl before getting to know her, IF you respect yourself. Having casual encounters like that is just empty hedonism. If you're desperate for it, I can't judge, but don't expect any warmth or connection.
Your job in finding a partner is to explore her story as thoroughly as possible. And you can absolutely find whether she's a slut or not, but you need emotional intelligence for it.
>And you can absolutely find whether she's a slut or not, but you need emotional intelligence for it.
My fucking sides.
Friend, let me tell you. As a friend of a huge slut (that even I enjoyed a few times), I can definitely tell you that if she doesn't want to tell you how many dicks she's had, you will NEVER find out.
Her current boyfriend that she's been with for maybe half a years has literally no fucking clue. He thinks it's maybe two or three at most.
He needs to add a 0, and that's just within the year before she met him.
Why do you want to lose your v card so much? I'm 25 and still have mine.
Go on dates till you find a qt that likes you back. Then have awkward virgin sex and laugh together about how inept you.
And don't kiss hookers either dummy even I know that.
Your friend's BF is clueless, as you said, so he's lacking emotional intelligence. He got together with somebody without considering that her past might be relevant to the relationship, so he failed to inquire into it. Not unsurprisingly, there's many guys like that out there. Women have the upper hand in the emotional game, and men get duped all the time. Understand now?
>All these virgins giving advice to other virgins about sex and women
Disregard all the autistic shit itt OP, if you want to have sex with an escort and think it'll help your situation then go for it. I doubt it'll stop you being awkward around women but it'll get that mental monkey off your back. If you want to be better at talking to women spend more time around women
28 year old virgin here. I don't even want a girlfriend at this point. I don't care about a relationship or having to date or any of that bullshit. I just want to get laid as often as possible by the hottest girls I can get even if that means my wallet takes a hit. I don't fucking care anymore. I'm too fucked up mentally and emotionally to actually have a healthy romantic relationship. I just wanna bust.
I recommend escorts.
I've been with a few and the sex is really good. One of them was gorgeous.
Most of them accept kisses, but you won't want to kiss most of them). And the kiss does not goes naturally. Its never as good as kissing a non-escort.
It will make you more comfortable with girls. Subconsciously your fear of failing at sex will make in insecure even when talking to girls, and this will become worse as you age (as being inexperienced becomes less excusable).
Escorts will give you experience, which will give you confidence, plus a lot of pleasure.
You won't get much tips because escorts lie too much.
Its up to you. Pick the ones that make you hornier.
Their "expertise" in sex in not necessarily related to age. In my case it was the exact opposite - The sex 'virtuoso' i got was 18 yo, the worst one was probably the oldest, around 26, but I think thats a coincidence.
I'm a great admirer of women's beauty. The gorgeous one I mentioned was 21. She was not good at sex actually, but her beauty made me feel very good and she was my favorite.
Just popping in to say, yeah so? We're all human here, what do you expect? Just ignore the very biological impulses and urges that make us human? I mean, life has no point or meaning anyway, so, why NOT follow your instincts/urges?
It's like you expect humans not to act human. We all want to be loved, wanted, and accepted. Deep down, we all would enjoy someone to curl up to in bed at night
>be constantly rejected by women
>be constantly reminded that they "don't owe you anything", that you're invisible/worthless to them, that they're not at all concerned with you or your well being
>consider turning to escorts
>OMG fucking sex starved loser!! Get a life and stop caring so much about sex!
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you can't get laid it's because you're a loser. If you want to pay to get laid you're an even bigger loser. You should just stop being a loser (and stop being short and ugly) and be grateful for whatever woman will finally love you after being rejected hundreds of times, several years down the road. If you try to scratch the itch by doing hookups or hiring a prostitute, you've cheated and should be miserable and alone for the rest of your life.
Honestly it's not like I would ever even think of turning to escorts if I thought I could just go meet a woman and have sex without so much trouble. Since most women don't like me enough to date me or sleep with me, why should they care how I get laid? What difference does it make? And why is it that men are supposed to be accepting of women who sleep around, but men are shamed for wanting sex too and using the most straightforward means to achieve it?
Lol women get all fucking butthurt when men don't like them after finding out how many dicks they sucked, but then get equally repulsed when they find out a guy slept with a prostitute.
Take that feeling of disgust you get when you've just discovered your guy fucked a whore. Turn it around and pretend you're a guy and just found out your girl fucked a bunch of dudes in ONS's or FWB situations, then you know how it feels when guys don't accept it and realize you're a huge fucking hypocrite if you expect him to accept your "past".
Ok so let's say I meet an expensive escort (300-400$), how should I behave? Dress well, bring some wine/drinks and some food? I don't want a relationship but discounts or other favors or even more time with them
While not all escorts will be like this, some of them are actually very good listeners, and perfectly capable to at least fake passion and pretend they care about your feelings. You can request this to the company you'll be hiring from, it's not an unusual request.
Personally, I think the problem of having relations with too many people or with a prostitute (or with anyone who's had too many relations in the past) is the risk of disease. I think both genders should be equally horrified.
>be a positive experience
You're a fucking idiot and falling for a meme.
No, banging a hooker won't make you feel any better about yourself or boost your confidence. If anything hookers are a net negative on both of those aspects and usually aren't worth the trouble. To dislodge the mental blockage you're going to have to force yourself through the motions and attempt some kind of sexual conquest on your own. Yes this takes work. You'll probably have to change several things about yourself, and overcome whatever fucking mental issue plagues all these pent up morons on this shithole site. But it'll be for the better and you'll more than likely be less of a shitty person coming out of it.
Now shut up and fuck off.
this to be honest desu. everybody has urges but living like a fucking pig in slop isn't healthy or productive
>psssssh you don't freebase heroin while gettin anal kick-fucked by hairy crossdressing lesbians? *tips fedora*
>you're a fucking loser who can't get laid
>stop being a loser and go get laid!!
Yep, never fails.
Women have this shit on easy mode all the time. Why anyone thinks men should have to beat themselves up this much and be so incredible just to get something that's handed to women on a silver platter is beyond me.
You're paying her for her time and her time is all she'll give you for that money. If you want more time, you pay more. Escort etiquette - you're paying for her services. Asking for a discount will get you a negative response. You're a business transaction for her and asking for a discount or "favors" is basically a slap in the face to her.
>Women have this shit on easy mode all the time
Which is why they spend so much time, money and energy on their appearance right? So they can get pity-fucked by queers like you and feel even worse about themselves.
>b-buh I'M A SPESHUL
Anybody can be a fuckhole if that's their thing. This kid wants sexual fulfilment so he can fell like less of an emasculated faggot.
That takes effort and is neither a human right nor something to go insane over.
Do you have any interest? Games? Anime? Shit like that? Why don't you go to conventions and meet people there, ittl help with your shyness and you'll probably meet an equally awkward girl as you.
>Anybody can be a fuckhole if that's their thing
With people in the same level of you is a privilege of women(men can do that but only with women way below his level). but their hypergamy and taboos wont allow them to do that.
>nor something to go insane over.
Op I lost it to a prostitute at 23yrs.
Didnt change anything really. Im still kissless at 25 despite having fucked 10+ prostitutes.
You will want to try them again so make sure you have the cash.
Anyone can tell op already decided to.
Let me tell you truth my boi.
Find a girl that does multiple shots on goal or whatwver. Means she wont throw you out after you jizz.
dont think of her as a perso . She is there to give YOU a good time. Make a list of shit you want her to do and dont be a pussy man up. Get experie ce now fuckboy.
I was lucky my first prostitute was independant we got along and she let me fuck her over a few weeks I had to break it off because I was still in highschool but it gave me. A neckbeard the confidence to get a real girlfriend
>With people in the same level of you
maybe for like five years if you're pacing yourself [via inflated self-worth]
no successful someone is going to marry a big fat slob who fucks strangers. anybody who pays any mind to social taboos is probably going to hold their partners to higher standards and blow off people who don't meet them (that means you!)
Call me a bully but you sound like a pouty kid who deserves it. get out from underneath the /r9k/ rock bb
>but women spend time on their appearance!!
Yeah, SOME do. But men don't give a fuck about your makeup usually.
Men are still expected to look good. It's not enough for a guy to be skinny, he has to work out and build muscles in order to attract women. On top of dressing and grooming well, and being confident, charismatic, funny, popular, goal oriented, etc. etc.
>b-but women have it SO hard you guys! They have to NOT look like shit every day!
Wow, so women have to just not look and act like complete shit and that's it. Gee, their lives are so fucking hard...
(back down on Earth, women are incredibly over-valued in society, especially the young ones. You have to let your life go to complete shit as a woman and even then there's guys willing to fuck or date you. Men have to really bust ass just to reach equivalent value of a bottom tier girl)
Nobody said that, stop putting words in my mouth just to further your argument.
After some research, I found that I may be looking for a courtesan instead of an escort. But they are much more expensive. The one I found is gorgeous but it's 650$ CAD for 2 hours. I am looking for a one time experience so maybe it's worth the price?
>never experienced the warmth of a woman
And you think an escort will give you this? An escort will give you sex, nothing more. She won't make you feel loved or desired, she won't cure your insecurities or shyness. She's a girl you pay for sex, not a genie or fairy godmother.
I used to escort for a while last year, you can find some nice people but it sounds more like you want the comfort and companionship.
I used to enjoy talking a bit to my guys after we were done, but i don't know how often others like to.
I know most girls probably just try and shove you out the door as soon as you cum so they can get ready for the next guy
Some kiss, some don't. You may be paying money but everyone has their likes and dislikes which you've gotta respect. Just message someone you like the look of and see what they allow
That's the website. I won't link the girl in question but she looks gorgeous and her rates are 350$ CAD/h and 600$ CAD/2h. She is 26, 5'8 and 36B-30-38 measurements. Outcalls only and her website looks very professional.
I just want some safe sex/intimacy. It's expensive I know but... I want to experience this once. I'm not some kind of fat neckbeard, I'm just more shy and reserved. I don't think it will help me out with women but at least be less awkward and a bit more confident if shit is going down