That's it, /adv/.
You've finally destroyed my last thread of confidence in men. It seems, deep down, all men think of women as inferior, as objects.
To them, sex is nothing but a degrading process to the woman. If she's not a virgin, she's just sloppy seconds. But that's not even half of it. Men also hold contrary standards for women.
If she's had sex, she's a slut, but at the same time, all men expect her to spread her legs for them.
To men, women are conquests. Veni Vidi Vici. Once you've gotten what you want out of them, it's done. You've dominating that one, on to the next.
And the blame is placed on the woman. Either she deserved it for acting contrary to the male's desire, or she should have had more dignity and not allowed it to happen.
I will never sleep with a man. No matter how nice they seem, even if they truly appear to be a good person. /adv/ has taught me that deep down, all men feel the same way about women and sex. I'm not even sure men are capable of love, any more. It seems all they have is desire to conquer unknown grounds, and despair when the ground is taken from them by another conqueror.
I have a vibrator and I have my friends. I will not let myself be a victim of this crusade.
I don't think women are better than men, /adv/. I don't hate men. I just know I can never trust them. Not after the things I've heard here.
>/adv/ has taught me
there's the flaw in your theory. this is just a small group of people. it's not an accurate representation of the way the big part of the male population thinks. sure, some do, but you can easily spot those bitter ones irl.
there are genuinely lovely guys that are able to not have the mindset you just mapped out.
i mean, i just have to think about my brother, my sisters husband, my dad, my bf. those are the best guys ever. they don't need to talk bad about women but they aren't insecure faggots that put girl on a pedestal either. there's a healthy middleground and a lot of guys are there.
Anon. As little as I want to convince you men are great (because I'm a man and I know they're definitively not all great) you're making the mistake that /adv/ is representative for men in general. And you're making the mistake of thinking that the male posters here represent every opinion posted. If I were to claim I only date virgins then I can't expect you to spread your legs before marriage pretty much because that'd not make any mathematical sense.
I have similar feelings of women but on entirely different basis.
Yeah, others have said it, but don't listen to /adv/ too seriously. This place has a bunch of shitty spillover from /r9k/, where it's all autists who think they know what women are like, but have never been with a woman, so they make observations in their high school classroom or college, and assume there's no more breadth or depth.
In the real world, there are plenty of wonderful, sane guys, and they're the majority.
My point is, certain kinds of people will call you a slut if you have what most people call "casual sex" and others will call you a frigid prude if you don't. Neither of these are true, but the point is - it all boils down to what you feel is right. The only proper definition of a slut is a woman who cheats, and a man who does the same is in no way better. I respect women who are comfortable with their sexuality and love sex, as long as they don't cheat, lie, deceive or lead on a guy - that is, if both parties have clearly stated their goals, are perfectly aware of the goals of the other person and stick to what they said. Same goes for men in that matter. Also, all men actually like the aforementioned women - because we like sex too.
If you get stuck in a pessimistic generalised train of thought then it's harder to see the good stuff in life.
I'm male and I'm very much in touch with my emotions and I value many things more than just sex. I don't see men and women as the same, but I see them in a balanced way. Their traits compliment one another.
Your vibrator doesn't care about you so why should a man?
I'm thinking this is a troll post but if not like the others said this place is not the best reflection of society. I do see where you're coming from, I remember a thread where a girl was going to be an extra in a porno, nothing sexual, but all the sudden she's a worthless slut who doesn't deserve a good man or life, it's crazy. This site and online dating bring out that type: were going to lose our virginity together and I'll treat you like a princess; what do you mean sorry you're not interested you worthless whore and you will be sorry!
Biting bait, but i have seen and i know males that don't think that way, and if you are seriously measuring people in general with negative things you see on 4chan, then you are silly and need to go out more or whatever. Actually that is a good idea for myself, i'm enjoying this place way too much. Well, have your reply, op.
You're sexist, OP. And I know this is kind of petty, but through the post I imagined you as a 300 pound 15 year old. If I said this same shit about women, you'd cry "SEXIST! MISOGYNY! OPPRESSION!" So do yourself a favor and find another Undertale fan to sexually disappoint.
That's it, /adv/.
You've finally destroyed my last thread of confidence in women. It seems, deep down, all women think of men as inferior, unable to control their primal urges.
To them, sex is nothing but a bargaining chip against a man. If he's a virgin, she's just some anti-social loser with no life. But that's not even half of it. Women also hold contrary standards for Men.
If he's had sex, he must have game, but at the same time, all women expect him to stay loyal regardless of whatever bullshit they pull.
To women, men are ATM's and emotional tampons. Veni Vidi Vici. Once you've gotten what you want out of them, it's done. You've dominating that one, on to the next.
And the blame is placed on the man. Either he deserved it for acting contrary to the female's desire, or he should have had more dignity and not allowed it to happen.
I will never sleep with a woman. No matter how nice they seem, even if they truly appear to be a good person. /adv/ has taught me that deep down, all women feel the same way about men and sex. I'm not even sure women are capable of love, any more. It seems all they have is desire to rape and pillage assets and property, and bring despair when the ground is taken from them by another conqueror.
I have a functional hand and I have my friends. I will not let myself be a victim of this crusade.
I don't think men are better than women, /adv/. I don't hate women. I just know I can never trust them. Not after the things I've heard here.
1. Sure, it feels good to get a woman to fuck you. Human nature. Jus fluke it feels good for the woman to be desired.
2. You should be able to tell who's just using you for "casual sex" and who's interested in a relationship.
3. Sexuality is neither good or bad. It just is. You choose your principles. Do you believe sex is an intimate thing and should be conservatively shared with only partners you really trust and value? Or do you believe sex is but an act, a means to an end (being horny, dopamine, etc) and that it should be a personal thing and applied liberally, but still safely?
4. You can't make a guy who sees sex as the former accept you if you subscribe to the latter, and vice versa. Just realize that some people have values that clash with other people's values. You don't have to be accepted and supported by everyone, you're an adult, grow up.
If women want themselves to be viewed as objects, does that mean that they want men to be viewed as subjects?
>men do a thing
Op why do you think they do it?
Surely if it didn't work they wouldn't? So why does it work? Because women are just as awful. Our society is a spiral of petty narcissism, an ouroboros, a snake full of sin eating itself.
Its more one type of girl compared to another. If we are honest theres more than two types of girl in he world. Its just playing on a guys desired girl and his inner most fear of a girl.
Probably bait, but I'm going for it.
We're not all like that. And /adv isn't exactly representative of all men. I'm looking for an ltr, but I live around a bunch of old people. Online dating doesn't work, and I've been burned by a out of women in the past, from girls that just used me for attention or teased me with no intent of a relationship or didn't have the ovaries to outright reject me, resulting in constant pursuit. But my last (and only) relationship was extremely rewarding...even though it ended.
I never said any of the shit that people utter on here to a woman. But it doesn't matter...the attractive ones don't reciprocate. This can make a guy very bitter, jaded, and untrusting towards women.
So you see, it goes both ways, and not all of us on /adv are like the scum you've described. I just want to be in a mutually loving, respectful, and trusting relationship with a woman I dare a mutual attraction with. Sex is just a bonus to me.
Men might not be trustworthy, but neither are women or children on non-human primates. No group can be trusted not to have some piss in the punch.
I'm a bonny-fied woman, and I imagine snapping the neck of every house-pet I cuddle with. People are fuck-ups OP.
I used to get mad at these threads saying that all women suck or all men suck.. But then I realized that the women in my life are amazing. No stupid thread on 4chan is going to disprove that.
Honestly this, your problem here isn't really to do with men, it's just people in general being scared &/or selfish, women are scared to be used short term, men are scared to be used long term, you surround yourself with friends with whom sex & relationships arn't on the table, so their way of using you isnt via those methods.
as for WHY you're scared to be intimate and hurt is another story, even if it is something you'll have to face eventually
why don't you just get with a woman if you're so scared of men?
The OP post could have been written by me.
21 yo virgin now, been on 4chan a good number of years.
A life in chastity actually grows on you, OP. It used to make me depressed, but now I feel content on my own.
Hardest bit is having my father constantly talking of when I will bring some boyfriend home, but I only see him at Christmas, so it's livable.
There arn't whiteknights in the word anymore for a good reason they all learned girls don't like it and won't go out with them.
So u stopped going to clubs and getting fucked by every weekend and realized now its time to settle?
Imagine this as a guy.
That's only partly true. I like to say that I don't see women as inferior, but as different, but I guess deep inside I truly believe them to be inferior.
Men like purity and innocence in women, so yeah, the fewer people a girl slept with, the better for us.
>but at the same time, all men expect her to spread her legs for them.
I'm only speaking for myself here, but I judge a woman I get to fuck easily just as harshly. I mean, I wouldn't refuse it, but I'd never have a relationship with a woman I got in bed despite barely or not knowing her at all.
Women are not conquests, it's just that fucking girls gives one a sense of accomplishment and pride so I can see why you would think so.
And in my humble opinion men are capable of more love than women. But not that kind of "love at first sight" crap, that thing doesn't even exist in levelheaded adults. Love is earned through time and experience and must be sustained. And deep down most of us want a serious relationship with a girl we love and who loves us back.
relationships with women are typically shorter, more expensive, and shorten your life via stress.
Well, I just recently started seeing a girl and i'm head over heels for her.
sex isnt a priority in the least bit, and shes far better than me at many things. Maybe dont get all of your info from a bunch of >>16850830
and go out and try it yourself.
>if she's had sex she's a slut
No, slut=girls who has had dozens of partners and/or cheats at the drop of a hat
>to men women are conquests
This is true of women who don't bother to offer anything to men but their looks. Its true when a woman's value is her looks and nothing else. Oddly enough, women use their sex appeal to leverage for higher shelf men and manipulate them as well.
Personally I have no choice but to see women as "challenges" because for me it's challenging to date women. A combination of self esteem issues and unchangeable physical characteristics contributes to this.
I can sympathize with women to a point, until they tell me I'm not good enough because of my height and my race. You don't really like every guy that much, And can be just as picky, shallow and insufferable, so don't take it so hard when we are not over enthused with your gender as well.