Need to get these 2 questions off my chest

I don't chase money or women. I get by doing my own thing.

>>16848915

I was lucky enough to find a high quality woman in college, and I guess was lucky enough to have the maturity to recognize a high quality woman. We got married the day after commencement.

Where most fagboats fail is that they chase the painted whores that remind them of women in movies and porn, women that have no aspirations in life and just spend all their time trying to look pretty and finding someone to take care of them.

If you marry some woman who never went to college and doesn't have her own money then you deserve whatever happens to you within the next couple years.

>>16848928
But what if you find a girl who's educated and stable but also good looking? Or are you implying that the girl you wify'ed up is unattractive to you?

>>16848915
Evaluate what your goals are.

A woman of quality will not care substantially one way or the other as long as you make enough to support yourself.

A woman of lower quality will be drawn to you for your money.

If your goal is just to have a woman who's you can sleep with, then money will help. But if your goal is to have a woman who will truely love you, then don't use money as a tool.

>>16848962

If you find a girl who is hot and brilliant then you marry her immediately before someone kidnaps her.

I'd call my wife a solid eight at best. She is a very attractive woman but she doesn't dedicate her life to fitness so she doesn't have a perfect body and her focus is our relationship and her career so she isn't going to be spending her time at home worshipping me like some spergs may want.

In my experience the women who focus on being attractive are severely lacking in social skills and have no professional aspirations, two things that were dealbreakers for me.

>>16848981
We must have two different ideas of being attractive then. Attractive to me is just as much about attitude/personality as it is about physical appeal. I wouldn't go for somebody I don't feel physically attracted to but it's not all I'm looking for anyways.

Your wife sounds like a real catch, and am honestly jealous of your position. The real pain is in knowing WHY I can't attract that kind of woman into my life, and how much it makes me want to beat myself up over it. Still, I press on...

>>16849020

I was purely talking about physical attractiveness.

I'm 31 now and I have only met three women, my wife included, that I would consider wife material based on the metric we have been talking about.

High quality men and women are rare and they get snatched up pretty quickly. I just encourage younger people to generally keep their eyes open when going around in their every day lives so they don't overlook someone amazing.

My dad used to tell me when I was a teenager that you've gotta be a ten to get a ten. If you're lacking in some way then make sure to greatly compensate for it somehow.

>>16848981
Intellegence/personalist is something that you can really only find out about a person once you've gotten to know them.

For example, in a room full of 100 hot women, you'd have to talk to and get to know each of them in order to see which ones are motivated and well rounded.

But if you go into a room with 100 smart girls, you can tell instantly which ones you're attracted to physically without even really having no to talk to them.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if you put yourself in an environment where intellegent, motivated women are likely to be, you can find out quickly who to spend your efforts on.

If you go to an environment where there's a lot of hot women, you're going to waste a lot of time getting to know women who end up not being worth the effort

>>16849054
I already know how I'm lacking, that was my point....

Though I'm curious to know when you met your wife, and how attractive you believed you were at the time. Do you think you 'got lucky' or that you were her equal and it was easy to make her your wife?

It seems like men generally peak somewhere between their late 20's and mid 30's. I'm 23, and got a long way to go before I have any hope with a decent woman.

Middle aged guy here.

I chased women and money both equally. I've had my share of career changes, and I've had my share of good relationships that I have messed up, and bad relationships that I have tried to keep stitched together.

The best results I had with catching women is finding women that had what I found to be important, and then going out of my way to meet them. My personal tastes are different than yours, and they're certainly different than they were when I was 25, but I eventually figured it out and now I'm married to my dream woman. Things have been pretty easy after I figured out what I wanted, and figured out how to meet people like that.

Complicated question, but really, know thyself is the best answer to finding compatibility in a partner.

Good luck.

>>16849098

I actually first met her when we were 16, we went to the same high school, I knew of her but we were in different circles. She was a nursing student when we met again in college; I was in computer science and the nursing program was in the health sciences wing of the same building.

I don't really know how to judge myself. Women seem to like me, I would have women flirting with me and trying to get me to ask them out pretty regularly; I don't think that I am amazing looking but I'm not ugly. I'm a little over 6' 4" so maybe that is a plus and I also stay in shape and I don't eat crap food.

I worked full time all throughout college so when I was on campus I was half asleep and reclusive, didn't really ever talk to anyone. My wife used to say that she approached me because she likes talking to shy people but now she knows that I'm not really shy, I just hated because at school because I felt that it was an annoyance that I just had to power through. I feel like we were equals, we had the same goals and that was one of the things we would talk about often when we went out.

The older I get the more women flirt with me but I don't want to speculate on why that is. I regularly have women in their early 20s approaching me these days. At this point my career is set and I own a couple luxury cars so attraction to perceived success may be a thing.

>>16848922
No, you are a worthless faggit.

>>16849140
Just based on your post it's no wonder women are attracted to you.

I know women don't hate me but I don't get the impression they are attracted to me. Every girl I know is either in a relationship, not interested or unattractive to me, which is an issue. Maybe I just need a major change of scenery...

>>16849269

I know that I got lucky just in seeing her again, I just happened to be going to the bathroom during a class and I went to the HS wing since the bathroom I usually use was occupied. We crossed paths and just stared at each other saying "hey..." since we recognized each other from high school.

Watching people when I was in college it seemed like most people weren't interested in really searching for a relationship so my situation is probably pretty unlikely to happen often. I was pretty unremarkable for the most part save for being tall so I guess that made me stand out; I don't know what you could do to give off a sense that you're looking for someone other than going into full peacocking mode, which would probably repulse most decent women.

>>16848915

i dont really see how the two are mutually exclusive. your job is just a job. you go home afterwards and then have all this time to connect with people. unless you have the type of career that doesnt have any time off (like working 6 months straight on a show or movie without any weekends) then you can just work by day and date by night

>>16849311
Being tall is a major asset. There is no denying that. The fact that you had ambition and were in good shape made you a top tier male for most women. You're very fortunate there.

I'm very short. Almost an entire foot shorter than you. It's not hard IMO to understand why women aren't very interested in me. Even the ones that are "interested", don't seem to care as much as they would if I was taller or had something else amazing about me that magnetized women. All I can do is keep at it and hope I attract somebody or multiple somebodies, and that the attraction is as strong as I'd like it to be. And I have to work pretty damn hard at it. It is what it is.

>>16849345

Yeah, I think it'll happen for you. You seem pretty driven and that'll definitely attract some quality women.

I regularly see short guys with attractive women, they just also happen to be pretty short.

>>16848915

I "chased money" by focusing on my career and traveling.

Now I'm 23 and would be a great catch except I literally don't know any girls and can't meet any.

>>16849379
Ah well thanks man, I try not to be hopeless but it's very frustrating sometimes. You're not the first person to tell me I'm ambitious, so I just hope I can keep it up for as long as I have to (ideally the rest of my life)

>>16849379
You consider yourself to be a good looking person? I'm about an inch shorter than you but in decent shape, but with little experience in relationships as a result of confidence issues and lack of effort.

>>16849384
Yeah man same here. I chased and got my dream job, now I literally do nothing but work. I haven't been laid in 2 and a half years

>>16848915
I don't chase either; I chase dreams.

...But no really. Wealth will let you do cool shit and have fun experiences, but it won't help you internally. It won't help you feel like you flourished as a person. Listen to people with wealth - the ones who actually care about being better people usually say money is a drug/trap. I don't dream of money lol.

Why chase women? Women will find you if you're chasing your future. It's all about being friendly and open to them.

I focus on flourishing as a person. The wealth I need will come. The women I need will too. It's all about improving myself.

>>16848981
>In my experience the women who focus on being attractive are severely lacking in social skills and have no professional aspirations, two things that were dealbreakers for me.
Honestly... this is pretty true. And when I'm being honest, I can admit that it's true for my girlfriend. Hot as fuck and works hard at her chosen profession...

...but holy fucking shit the social graces are lacking. My best friend's wife put it pretty bluntly, "She's hard to get along with." So I think of the hottest women I can think of.... yeah they're almost all socially retarded.

>>16849436
>Women will find you if you're chasing your future.

Yeah but you need to at least be out there meeting women. I'm not talking about going to bars or clubs or learning PUA or becoming an obnoxious serial dater either, but it can be pretty easy to become so absorbed in your dreams, goals and pastimes that you aren't really doing anything to meet women or getting in front of them at all, especially if you work alone a lot or hang out mostly with guys.

Not aiming this at you or anyone in particular, just pointing out what should be common sense, because common sense is so easy to overlook.

>>16849440
I might know a girl like this. I wager their problem is that they receive such positive attention for their looks that they can let their personality slide. There is truth in the saying that the more attractive you are, the more you get away with. Halo effect and all that.

>>16849413

No problem. Keep trying and you'll eventually get where you want to be.

>>16849423

Meh, I guess I would call myself like an eight.

Most women are extremely passive so once you get over your confidence issues you'll likely have no problem finding a fulfilling relationship.

>>16849442
I hear you Anon, I do. I stopped counting at 50 sexual partners.

What did I learn from all of that monkey fucking? The best experiences didn't come when I was focused on finding women. The best experiences came when I was at intramural softball and a coworker brought a friend....who ended up doing things to me that I never thought I would experience lol.

I hear you, but my experiences tell me to focus on flourishing as a person. The women come as long as you're open. Like a business.

>>16848915
You won't lose bitches chasing money but you will lose money chasing bitches..

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>>16849478
Usually something else is in place when women just kind of fall into your lap like that. I wouldn't just tell each and every guy to chase his dreams and women will come without any further information. Especially since it ignores the fact that most women are extremely passive and won't literally "come to you" by making overt moves, they wait for you to do it.

>>16849458
It's not really confidence actually, it has to do with relatability. It's pretty rare for me to find a girl that I feel like I can emphasize with and actually want to talk to.

>>16849544
>I wouldn't just tell each and every guy to chase his dreams and women will come without any further information.
...but that's exactly what happens. All i did was go to a softball game and viola girl.

Now, I also had to talk to said girl. And be a normal fucking person. And put on some charm. And put in a bit of work. But that's kind of a given right? Who honestly thinks a girl will literally fall into their laps? Even if she's there, a guy still has to be a human being to her lol

>>16848981
> tfw find a qt I really get along with initially.
> doing some arts degree, into that SJW stuff, vegan etc.
> apart from that she has a pleasant disposition and is very polite.

drop?

>>16849522
the truth isn't always so comforting, fag.

>>16848915
Yes and no. Women want to be wanted. But they want to be wanted for more than just sex. If you only go romantic you arent going to build sexual tension.

>>16849862
Don't drop.

Can't you learn to disagree respectufully? I dated someone on the opposite side of the spectrum, and while we didn't always agree, we respected eachother enough to agree to disagree

>>16849909

Don't get me wrong, so far we have healthy debates about things, she's mentally challenging and stimulating I find her very intelligent.

But I know from experience that a lot of people who identify themselves with the labels that she associates with are massive red flags.
I've met a few who are batshit insane, and I have absolutely no respect for.

Essentially I think of them as middle class young men or women who were born with a silver spoon in their mouths, who think they have the world figured out, never having worked a day in their lives.

Its like tumblr, except in real life, and cringeworthy in orders of magnitude.

>>16848915

I haven't and maybe I should have.

We've got a saying here: "Go where the money is"


Now when i see a woman driving by in an expensive car i realise i've could have been living in that world.
I'm in middle class so i should not complain. Sometimes i'm just craving for more.

Assuming you're over 18 posting here, your body has reached the developmental stage required to make this kind of decision.

Look at you physical characteristics. Height, weight, are you attractive, do you have 8 inches or more?

Based on your answers, you can easily decide which path to take that's best for your future.

If you're a manlet, you're probably going to want to focus on money. You'll need a lot of it, to get anywhere in life, and you'll have to pay for girls.

If you were a chad, you wouldn't be asking a question like this, as your perfect life would be already foretold by prophecy, and all doors would be open to you.

In other words, this isn't really a question at all. Destiny has already set the course of your adventure, and you have no choice in the matter. If you could get girls, you wouldn't be asking.
Money is your answer.

>>16848915
why does her face look so photoshopped?

>tfw you stopped even trying to chase after money or women

>>16849585
>And put in a bit of work

Which is the key. Which is where I fucked up. Which is why I hesitate to tell people it'll "just happen" if I think they are like me and either freeze up or don't say much when a woman seems to be approaching them.

>>16850600

because it's a trap.

>>16850600
I'm gonna go out on a limb, and say she probably doesn't suffer from a rare form of pixelitis.