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Is it true the more you talk to fully grown adult women like
They're little girls the better you do with them?
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Wat
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I don't know where you got that idea, but not in many cases. Some women might like it, but try being pulled over by a lady cop and pulling that shit, for example, and it will not go well.
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yoo i didnt know beach rugby had so much ass
might join a team
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>>16848472
A pornstar friend of mine swears it's the secret to his success with the ladies. Not joking
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>>16848478
yea maybe he's really good looking or the fact that he's a porn star and may be an expert in using his dick
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>>16848478
If he's a pornstar, I'm guessing he has some other favorable traits that might be helping. Also it could say something about what kind of women he hangs around with. If you want that to be your thing, whatever. But coming from a different perspective, this sort of thing doesn't work as a broad generalization.
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Doesn't sound right to me.
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>>16848495
No
>>16848489
idea
>>16848488
what
>>16848472
they're
>>16848463
talking about

OP, you wouldn't take a 5 year old seriously, would you? So why take someone who has the emotional maturity of a 5 year old seriously? That's right, you don't. You humor them, let them think they are adults, but don't rely on them for anything, don't give them everything they ask for, and don't let them make major decisions. Every woman wants to be lead.
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>>16848516
>let them think they are adults
But wouldn't that take talking to them like grown people instead of talking to them like children?
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>>16848516
I never even thought about it that way, but that perspective makes so much sense now that I actually think about it.

>not op
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>>16848516
I would take a 5 year old seriously. I take my neice incredibly seriously

No. Idea. What. You're. Talking about. lol jk
I was telling OP not to believe something just cause it worked for his friend because, among so many reasons, he's a fucking porn star.
HOWEVER treating women like children? Yea that can work for the same reason being an alpha, or having charisma and confidence in general works. I mean in one perspective to allow this, you can consider how everyone else isn't alpha and lead the way.
Like this guy said:
>You humor them, let them think they are adults, but don't rely on them for anything, don't give them everything they ask for, and don't let them make major decisions.
But you can make them think they are making major decisions; well it's relative anyways
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>>16848521

Yeah. You don't actually talk to them like a child.

Wrong:
>Do you like barbies?

Right:
>"Yes, a female president is EXACTLY what we need" *smirk, followed by eye roll* "You're so cute/funny/silly, sometimes." *hug/tickle her*
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>>16848533

I talk to kids like they are adults too, because I respect them more than I respect most adult women, because at least the children have the excuse of not knowing better.
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>>16848539
>You don't actually talk to them like a child.

Well that is exactly what OP was asking about. Did you read the OP?
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>>16848551
Did you read his other posts? He makes it pretty obvious what he means
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With some. But that's also true of some guys too. There's just a certain type of person out there who really needs a lot of hand-holding in social interactions.
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>>16848551

I don't think he's literally saying "goo-goo gah-gah" to an adult female. I think he just means being patronizing, or condescending.
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>>16848559
I thought he meant using pickup lines like "Hey little girl, do your parents know you're out this late?"
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>>16848543
Hahahaha well I like to give the benefit of the doubt; we all have the excuse of ignorance. Then there's arrogance; but until it's proven as such one shouldn't be patronizing/condescending.

In general one shouldn't be dishonest
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>>16848567

That's just creepy. I wouldn't even say that to a child.
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>>16848567
lmao... you should get off the internet more often that shit only happens in like movies or something. a real girl literally would not know how to respond to that other than 'wtf' unless their drunk then it'd be 'lolwut'
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>>16848570
>but until it's proven as such one shouldn't be patronizing/condescending.
>In general one shouldn't be dishonest

In a perfect world.
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>>16848516
I'm 22 in college so cal. Have you been out there lately, women are dumber than shit and emotionally in middle school you grab their hand and walk them and they just go with you they are like children just have to have the confidence to break the ice believe me if you ask 100 girls out 20 will say yes and you'll have 5-10 on your dick that's a good amount of pussy for any man
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>>16848588
>so cal
>college

Well that explains it.
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>>16848516
This is exactly my point. Like a little kid you talk to them with excitement and energy and congratulate them on their little achievements and they glow and want to please you. It works trust me
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>>16848461
Less like little girls and more like preteens, a guy at work did that and he had a lot of attractive women hanging all over him. There's a certain tone of voice, you seem overly genuine - like a cartoon character - and you feign profound interest in them, as you would a preteen girl relative, and man the results are astounding.
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>>16848588
>getting shot down 80 times just so you can fuck maybe 5 skanks

Not sure it sounds worth it.
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>>16848570
People tell you that because they want you to be that way, but in reality aren't that way themselves. People who achieve any significant personal success in anything find a way to manipulate situations for their benefit. You think CEOs, politicians, and any other successful person got to where they are by being nice?

If being disingenuous, patronizing, and dishonest is what gets you more women and money, why wouldn't you do it? As long as you have people who you are genuine and honest around, why does it matter if you have to act a certain way to get what you want?
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>>16848598
Yup I said little girls but meant pre teen 11-14 "yay baby that's great! Let's have fun tonight baby!" High energy compliments and fun but always in control tell, never ask " let's go here for dinner... Let's do this... You look pretty in this outfit... It really works.
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>>16848585
lol. what I mean is, if your going to be patronizing/condescending then do it to their face after letting them know that they are truly a failure or at the very least they have shown they aren't learning from their mistakes, then say fuck you and leave. then link them the next day and get high. xD

>>16848602
LOL I'm not an egotistical bastard like you
>People who achieve any significant personal success in anything find a way to manipulate situations for their benefit. You think CEOs, politicians, and any other successful person got to where they are by being nice?
Yea, and like 10% of CEOs are psychopaths for that reason. I'm not conditioned and brainwashed by society to be addicted to money like you pal

>As long as you have people who you are genuine and honest around, why does it matter if you have to act a certain way to get what you want?
Because that's delusional.
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I have a wild idea, how about you talk to women like you talk to adult people? like what are you even saying, you meet someone intelligent and attractive, and then you treat them like a child?
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>>16848461
I have that kind of relationship with a lot of my platonic female friends, but thats not what you're asking for. I'm a teacher though, so it would probably depend on how you would talk to a little girl bro
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>>16848615
If you know who you really are as a person, then the actions that you take towards people who mean little to you don't define who you are.

I'm not addicted to money, I was simply using it as an example. Personal success usually comes as a result of how you act in a given situation.

You manipulate situations in everything that you do, even in subjects like math, reading, and science. You learn and change your reasoning in order to achieve some sort of end result, which is to solve a problem.

If faking a personality and making people that you don't actually care about feel good about themselves gets you more friends, then why not do it? People who are failures are usually aware of it, so why give them more criticism when they obviously don't want it? Chances are that they aren't listening to you, don't understand what you're saying, or just don't care.

People manipulate to some degree, whether they like it or not.

Want to pass a class? Study the material that allows you to be able to understand how to do it.

Want to get people to like you? Act a certain way that you believe will resonate with them. Shallow relationships will always be shallow relationships, no matter how hard you try to change it. If you happen to interact with a person who you genuinely enjoy talking to and being around, then you won't have to act.

Want a promotion? Do your job well and find a way to convince your boss so that he'll give you one. Give him the right impression or you.

I want to live my life the best I possibly can without stepping on other people, and if that requires me to change a few habits then so be it.

I'm not saying to destroy other people's lives or even relationships, but if you haven't reached an appropriate level of self-satisfaction acting certain way then something has to change.

If someone doesn't care about you, why should you care about them?

You think someone who seems to get along with everybody is genuine 100% of the time?
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>>16848615
Also don't try to discredit me, I do nice things for people I don't really know. Sometimes it's because it will help me convince a person to do something, but usually it is because I genuinely enjoy helping people out and don't expect anything out of it.
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>>16848704
wow you really want to do this?

>If you know who you really are as a person, then the actions that you take towards people who mean little to you don't define who you are.
But that's wrong. To think otherwise is delusional. Or maybe we have different definitions of what "who you really are as a person" means. I recommend you look into some theories in psychology.

>Personal success usually comes as a result of how you act in a given situation.
It's interesting you say that, because earlier you said something else. I'm going to assume you are misusing this statement.
>People who achieve any significant personal success in anything find a way to manipulate situations for their benefit.
Personal success is subjective and achieving it depends on what it is so you can't generalize it and say one technique is the best way for all 'personal successes' I mean that's bordering arrogance. Anyways...
SO IF you are equating personal success with obtaining large sums of money then that does make you addicted to money pal

>You manipulate situations in everything that you do, even in subjects like math, reading, and science. You learn and change your reasoning in order to achieve some sort of end result, which is to solve a problem.
Indeed. But that's completely irrelevant considering the differences in context of everything else you're saying in using the word manipulate...

>If faking a personality and making people that you don't actually care about feel good about themselves gets you more friends, then why not do it?
Because you are encouraging delusions in other people ON PURPOSE which makes it incredibly immoral (and ironic)
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>People who are failures are usually aware of it, so why give them more criticism when they obviously don't want it?
The fuck? If failures know why they are failures then they simply wouldn't be failures. Maybe if you weren't retarded you would realize that people actually want constructive criticism (IF they are aware that they are presently being failures and want to get better)
>Chances are that they aren't listening to you, don't understand what you're saying, or just don't care.
Then either you're being an asshole about it or they aren't actually accepting the fact that they are failures

>People manipulate to some degree, whether they like it or not.
No and believing as such to justify your life is believing in something that's unproven is delusional. It's one thing to have an opinion but it's another thing to pretend it's a fact and then do things that are considered immoral.

>Want to pass a class? Study the material that allows you to be able to understand how to do it.
Okay but irrelevant.

>Want to get people to like you? Act a certain way that you believe will resonate with them.
Yeah but there's honest ways of doing this too.
>Shallow relationships will always be shallow relationships, no matter how hard you try to change it.
Then don't have shallow relationships. It's that simple. Let me remind you what was in the post you replied with "or at the very least they have shown they aren't learning from their mistakes, then say fuck you and leave. then link them the next day and get high." that's a true story with my close friend. The moment I noticed he's being dishonest/inconsistent with me I let him know this. FYI he's incredibly rich and when his parents dip he breaks into their room and steals the keys to the escalade hehehe. But I don't care if he gets offended and decides to stop being friends with me even if he is a rich idiot who never learns that I can manipulate to no end.
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>If you happen to interact with a person who you genuinely enjoy talking to and being around, then you won't have to act.
More like then you won't have to say things you wish you didn't have to (because you like keeping it real, I mean I do at least). I have friends like that too, they are usually busy not being failures though.

>Want a promotion? Do your job well and find a way to convince your boss so that he'll give you one. Give him the right impression or you.
Fuck cooperations I don't plan on making a career out of being a slave :)
Anyways, if I happened to work for a company that I genuinely shared values with then I would just honestly tell them how to make the company better and if they like me I get a raise and if they don't I find a job elsewhere. Instead of being a manipulative pussy you can be straight up too!

>I want to live my life the best I possibly can without stepping on other people, and if that requires me to change a few habits then so be it.
> without stepping on other people
what

>I'm not saying to destroy other people's lives or even relationships, but if you haven't reached an appropriate level of self-satisfaction acting certain way then something has to change.
Yea sure

>If someone doesn't care about you, why should you care about them?
So you can convince them to start caring and not go murder people
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>You think someone who seems to get along with everybody is genuine 100% of the time?
of course not. If you were actually reading what I said instead of being butthurt and responding illogically and emotionally (since I surely pressed all your buttons, as in all the logic you ignore in your subconscious that contradicts everything you know)
you would have noticed I mentioned "Yea, and like 10% of CEOs are psychopaths for that reason. I'm not conditioned and brainwashed by society to be addicted to money like you pal" all of society is fucked and you are just another symptom :) you can choose to wake or stay in your confortable slave life among the sheeple
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This thread is incredibly condescending and weird.
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>>16848775
>>16848776
>>16848786
>>16848801
I don't want a ton of money, just a good career (six figures), good emotional intelligence, and social skills so that I can provide for a family when I eventually fall in love with someone and communicate with her the best I can so our relationship can work out. When I find someone I care for (close friends or women), I'm honest around them and will even go out of my way to give advice whenever they want it and make their lives better in any way I can. I don't show it outwardly most of the time, but I do care for people and who they are and I'm willing to do things for other people that nobody else would if I cared about the relationship.

I can't have real relationships with people I have no emotional interest in, so faking it is the only option that I have if I want to date people because of looks. However, this often evolves into real interest.

Morality is also subjective. What you see as immoral and what I see as immoral is different, and isn't always in terms of black and white. It's just that my views aren't really considered socially acceptable or morally sound by most of society like yours are. I want to be better at everything I do, both when doing productive tasks and socially.

When I say "who you are as a person" I'm referring to ideals and worldviews, not exactly outwardly behaviors. People I care for and people I pretend to be interested in aren't exactly the same. I have no interest in small talk and have to fake it or else being around people would just be awkward.

You're misunderstanding me. I define personal success as reaching or achieving self-actualization. My goal is to be in a steady relationship and be financially (and emotionally) able to ensure that we can have a good quality of life without having to struggle (as ive heard many stories of people that do because of other factors).
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>>16848801
Also, I'm aware of what's wrong with me morality-wise and trying to fix it the best I can.

Then again, my word choice might make it sound like I'm doing something completely different than what I'm actually doing.

What I'm saying is that I simply want to live my life with the future in mind. I define personal success as living my life without any regrets and trying everything I can before settling down.

I'm 18 if that has any relevance.

>im not butthurt at all
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>>16848912
why are you dating people because of looks? there's your problem right there

Although morality is subjective one can create an objective framework by looking at possible contexts; actions themselves cannot be judged without context so morality is relevant only regarding intentions (which only the self knows since no one can mind read)

You want to be better to what end? Being 'good' is also relative and so, people usually have goals you know, like in a certain field or as a hobby or something.

>When I say "who you are as a person" I'm referring to ideals and worldviews, not exactly outwardly behaviors.
But don't outwardly behaviors, in fact all actions come from your beliefs and intentions?

>I have no interest in small talk and have to fake it or else being around people would just be awkward.
See this is a belief. Personally I stopped giving a fuck and uninstalled all concepts of awkwardness from my mind. I don't need to fake it now see....

Self-actualization isn't a single goal; the term comes from Marlowe's hierarchy of needs and it's the HIGHEST need. You have to meet the other needs to. The one under need self actualization is ESTEEM which is respect by others and respect for others. In some definitions one of the higher needs is also acceptance of the truth...

Anyways having a good quality of life is arguably possible with minimum wage so that's obviously not what you mean. You're going to have to be more specific, as saying best quality of life possible means having Africa as your backyard or something....

So yea maybe you are having a bit trouble articulating all you're thoughts. However I suspect there's some extreme cognitive dissonance stemming from contradiction regarding the totality of your beliefs in your subconscious, some of which you may not even be aware of...
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>>16848461
Yes. Women love to challenge you. Annoying little cunts. But you have to show them who wears the pants. They are looking for protection and comfort from men. If you cant handle them you cant handle the things they want you to protect them from.
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>>16849893
This guy cut to the core of it. You should teach a class. Thanks champ!
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what about us, men? We're the same or even worse.

Being an adult is a choice.
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>>16848610
Okay, the enthusiasm stuff is much more coherent here than the retard way OP put it, and makes sense; girls tend to be more emotional hence energy/compliments, exaggeration etc "work" for them or whatever.

But your "never ask" stuff is wrong; SOME girls like to be dominated, SOME like to be the dominant one, and SOME an equal relationship, depends on the person.
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This is retarded. You date stupid sluts- you get stupid slut intelligence. You date some broseph who can barely add and subtract, you get stupid broseph intelligence.

Sure treat the retards like kids, but the second you try that shit with a woman who's not a retard she'll laugh her way the fuck out.

Autists, fucking austist.
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That's the gist of it.
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>>16848461
Not sure about wanting to be treated like children, but women seem to like tough dominant men. Maybe by treating them like children, you display those characteristics?
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>>16848461
Gently teasing them about something, is good way to go. Shows that you're not over eager and that you see them as an equal one to be bantered with.
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>>16848602
>redpilling feeltards
not worth the keystrokes bruh
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>>16851006
You're not basing this statement off of actual life experience, are you? You're just logically assuming that a more intelligent, perhaps more highly educated woman would not be impressed by this sort of treatment.

Sorry, but you're wrong. Brainy bookworms and dumb club sluts alike eat this shit up.
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>>16848461
>>16848596
>>16848598
>>16848610
It's a revelation to you that people respond positively to being excited about and interested in each other

and your first instinct then is to pretend to actually have such feelings rather than simply having them/developing the capacity to have them

and yet you fully believe that women are the emotionally stunted ones.


This would be fascinating if it wasn't so fucking sad.
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>>16851157
It's the fastest way to make any such woman lose all respect for you and never take a thing you say seriously. Listen to >>16850575
>>16851006 and >>16851108
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>>16851321
I'm not on the fence over whether it works. I do it in real life. I KNOW this shit works.
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