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the sad truth is this

if you are an unattractive guy, don't ask any girl out unless they are equally as ugly as you.

Girls and guys alike will make fun of you for eternity if you do. I know this from personal experience.
A very ugly co-worker asked out a pretty girl.

Ever since that day, everyone has been making fun of him and everyone sees him as creepy.

The good news is there are ways to become more attractive. Regularly lifting heavy weights with compound movements is the most effective way to accomplish this, as well as following fashion trends and keeping top hygiene
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>>16824723

i mean if its someone no one else you know knows, theres no real harm.
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>>16824726
yeah, cold approaching strangers you will never meet again is good, yet it's really successful
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lmao im ugly and my wife was a 10/10 when we got together. Good charisma and knowing how to properly eat pussy goes a long way if you can manage to that far.
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>>16824733
one of the following:
>you are either not that ugly
>you're wife isn't that beautiful
>you are hell of a charismatic person
>you are an exception to the rule
>you're lying
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lmao more when women approach me and i still consider myself ugly. Lots of women young and old... seriously are most guys just creeps because i just act cool, talk to them like im interested in what they have to say, and they offer me blowjobs.
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>>16824744
im being seriously honest here.
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Society will always shit on men for being what they are. It's just how the world is, you do one thing and people shit on you, you do the opposite and people shit on you. You have to take it all in stride and sometimes your stars align and the person you choose to be next to doesn't shit on you.
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>>16824744
I will say though I am a big guy. 6'3 with a big frame im not even built and kind of chubby. Maybe all the women that hit on me like to feel secure in my big gorilla arms.
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>>16824766
there you go

>>16824746
what is your secret? Before I got ripped I would get 0 attention from girls

>>16824758
you gotta let go of this "woe is me" attitude.
Seriously, it's holding you back even more than being ugly
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>>16824758
>you do one thing and people shit on you, you do the opposite and people shit on you

give me an example
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>The good news is there are ways to become more attractive. Regularly lifting heavy weights with compound movements is the most effective way to accomplish this, as well as following fashion trends and keeping top hygiene

don't do that for a woman, do it 100% for you.
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This advice is really bad.
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>>16824758
Get out of your fucking self-pity shell already. That's simply not true. You're just setting yourself up for failure.
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>>16824789
care to expand?

I'm writing from my experience, point flaws in my reasoning
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>>16824776
most girls like men are just as shallow. I do consider myself a cool dude though so i think i had that going for me. Usually I just eye fuck the ever living shit out of them while we talk but dont throw off any creepy I want to rape you vibes but give them that hey im cool i want to make love with you and make you feel safe look. I try to be very witty and just joke around a lot i flirt relentlessly. The flirting got me in trouble a lot though. I had chicks i wasnt interested in asking me out and meh thats never fun.
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>>16824801
There's PLENTY of ugly dudes with good looking girlfriends. it's just about not being a fucked up negative person
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We are living in an age where women think you have to be just as attractive as them for you to get with them its so untrue though. Now can't just expect to walk up to them out of the blue and ask them out that won't work unless you look like a model but get to know them show them you are a hilarious,cool, and fun stallion who can make them orgasm two to three times in one sitting and soon everyone in her circle is going to want you.
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I feel really bad for saying this, I'm not in a position to judge but... well a friend of mine is a pretty hot girl desu, she's kind of the manic pixie dream girl kind too, as silly as that sounds. And she's currently dating a fat guy who I don't know much but he doesn't seem to have a hell of a personality either, he's not exactly attractive in an obvious sense.
I feel bad for writing this x_x like I'm assuming I'm better or more good looking. But anyway, just saying this as an example from real life that hot girls can date... unexpected dudes.
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>>16824789
Lifting weights instilled good traits, discipline, humility, good self esteem. Helped me with facial aesthetics and got me in better shape.

Still doesn't fix underlying insecurities or flaws but it's a good step in the right direction..
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>>16824812
>not being a fucked up negative person
>tfw no fucked up negative Asuka gf
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We had waltz practice in school today. Every girl wanted to dance with me because I had taken waltz courses before and I was literally the only guy who knew what he was doing. No girl wanted to make small talk with me, they just wanted to use my knowledge.
I'm fit, fair looking, smart. I just dunno what's wrong with me.
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>>16824820
you wouldnt believe how many women Ive met that prefer heavy guys. I think its some kind of animalistic instinct to go after a strong burly protector type image. That being said its not outside the norm of todays superficiality.
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>>16824812
>it's just about not being a fucked up negative person

c'mon, you're lying to yourself!
your gonna have to be more than just not an asshole!
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Im preaching it and I dont give a fuck. You don't have to be "hot" to get with even the most sexy of women but you can't be a little bitch either. You really have to show them through your actions that they really want to fuck you. Give them a charming smile flirt with them but also show them you dont need them and can get better. Make them feel safe and secure but dont be a needy little faggot. You got to show them your the boss of yourself but not in an assholey kind of way. confidence people just let it reek off of you but dont be stupid about it. there is a balance here.
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The sad truth is your appeal to women will only continue to go up the more money/success you have and vice versa. Even the most saintly of women don't want no broke ass loser unless you're their annual charity case and they think they can change you. You can shoot far above your league if you got the money.
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also dont get married as soon as I got married suddenly every hot little babe in town wanted to jump on my pole. then once i had kids It got worse I could barely go out in town just me and the kids without getting hit on. It takes a lot of self control to keep my cool.
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shit sometimes I just don't get it. Its like women don't want us to know just how insecure and fragile they really are.
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>>16824812
This I know friends that I thought were ugly that got with decent looking chicks

They are not fucking subhuman ugly obviously but they dont exactly have ripped bods and crazy jawlines

What I see works is having a personality and being funny being energetic and making a girl laugh just works, theres always hoes though its not like my friends are all dating girls we met in highschool its like a numbers game
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>>16824845
The fuck is this shit? I bet you can't keep a girlfriend around who isn't a complete moron fuckbot.

Controlling guys like this - watch out smart girls!
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>>16824835
I am an unapologetic chubby chaser. I can land all kinds of hot guys but I love that chub. Dad bod is hot as fuck can't STAND skinny/cut guys.
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>equally as ugly as you.

Women have much higher standards than men, so ugly men actually need to ask women out that are SUBSTANTIALLY uglier than they are.

see e.g., okcupid male v female attractiveness ratings
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>>16824852
true to an extent. At one time I was only minimum wage and I had hot milf type babes with giant knockers asking me out and damn can they eye fuck. Women are freaky kinky little devils a lot of them will fuck just about anything if you show them how manly and charming you are
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>>16824877
Do they remind you of him when he fucked you as a kid?
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>>16824879
>Women have much higher standards than men
Yah I think this is true as well. Maybe it's because they can get pregnant and stuff.
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>>16824874
lmao im never controlling to the women im with and do my darn best to respect all her boundaries i never even text them. they text me and wont leave me alone and again im being totally honest here im not a great looking guy either i just show them Im a cool guy that would make them feel safe when they are with me. I guess it just comes to me naturally i dont know but dont assume im some kind of asshole I want to prove to men you are better than you think you are even when the media tells you that gour ugly. now fuck off if your going to be that way
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>>16824877
hell yea we'd have fun together :)
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>>16824723
>>16824744
>>16824776
>>16824781
You are Narcissistic dumb fucks that's the reason you don't get better girls. You lie to yourselves with
> I get the girls that are within my reach and everyone should do the same
To feel better for the lack of success that meets your criteria even if everyone thinks you are successful with women you can't.

From my experience, stop with that negative mentality you are crushing yourself (do work out, do better yourself but because you want to not for women) and stop posting shit. Enjoy your day.

Still no job I see
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>>16824845
This guy gets it
>>16824852
Partially true
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>>16824905
yup in fact if your charming enough don't even go to them. Let them engage thats how I have always done it. I really hate using analogies but if i must its like they are fish and just jump into my boat I just wait for the ones i am most attracted to hop in. This isnt in some nightclub or bar this is just every day out and about or hanging out with friends/coworkers type situations. Lots are women are shy though and it could shock you when you find out how many missed opportunities you get.
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>>16824874
> wdatch out SMRT grillz diz bad guyz wanna fuk u and use u and dape you and only slutzzz do DAT
>you should def date a nice guy liek meh
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>>16824937
lol its not even about being an asshole either. Why do people confuse being an asshole with being a suave motherfucker. she clearly missed the point. Not going to lie she would most likely be the type to come after me too I can tell.
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>>16824933
Indeed. I wasted so much time "making me great again" I didn't notice I was being hit on, even rejected fine girls because of it.
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>>16824952
fuckng this right here... So many girls hit on you when you dont even notice. The women I could of slept with, when I think about, it makes my dick cry and im not talking about the good kind of tears.
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>>16824948
Mainly because it's hard to calibrate and changes with each girl but it's not being an asshole.
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>>16824974
gah he gets it.. yup every girl has their own language/body language and comfort zones then knowing when to put certain pressure on diffrent situations. You really can not learn this from a book its trial and error. its about learning how to talk to people in general really. Making people feel like they can open up to you.
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>>16824723
You owe that man respect, he had the balls none of your coworkers will never grow including you OP.
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also don't masturbate like the little sex fiend you probably are let that testosterone filled god given seed build up in you for a bit the sexual tension will show in your conversations it will make you more confident and risky. Im not certain but for some reason I believe women have a sixth sense for it like its instinctual. Remember we are all animals on a biological basis.
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>>16824987
Indeed
You have to grow a pair to do it but I doubt OP gets that.
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Its all about how you carry yourself too. Walk into a room and own it. You are the owner of that establishment walk in with confidence and women will start flirting with you. Hell I went grab a coffe a couple days ago and had women eye fucking me into oblivion sipping their coffee playing coy. I absofuckinglutely believe that if I was a regular there she would approach me.
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im bumping this shit i have seen only one women contend the posts on this page more men need to see this godamnit!!!!!
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they won't.... because deep down beneath the hard, shell like exterior they have built up over the years from watching and reading various type of media that says your onky worth it if your pretty is a small fragile tender hearted sweetheart that truly wants a big burly gorilla looking man to take her up in his arms and make her feel safe from all the predators as she recieves his seed.
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What if every girl looks pretty to me? I only dislike obese (not just fat) women.
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>>16825222
did you read anything in this thread? regardless of what op stated it is untrue you can sleep with some of the most gorgeous women on the planet even if your sorta ugly or chubby. Severe obesity is different.
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lower your expectations

/thread
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>>16825222
Also I have been with women on par with the pic in op and trust me im not good looking im tall big framed and burly.
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>>16825272
nooo never lower your expectations!!!! Get what you desire! Don't take this advice. don't cut yourself short.
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>>16825285
I agree, lowering your expectations will only eventually lead to you trying to date people who are poisonous to you, and it might also damage your self esteem to a point of no return
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also never ask a girl out let them engage (you need to be one suave mofo tbough for this to happen unless you looking fine as hell). I lived by this in my fucking around years.
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>>16825301
and by ask out I mean fuck. lets be real here.
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>>16824723
The sad truth is you are a shitlord that lives in mommy's basement who has no business giving other people advice.
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>>16824723
Oh man I love these threads

>Win over women with this 1 WEIRD trick
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>>16825319
i mean if you look like dennis nedry chances are you not gonna get much action unless your rich but you dont have to be a model to get with a women far outside of your supposed "league".
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>>16825326
I am Dennis

Your lives are in my hands and I have butter fingers.
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I don't believe in those rediculous books like the game. I never played tricks on women at all I just know from experience, and I have a lot of experience, that if you treat women in a manner that shows how much confidence, energy, and fun you exude and make them feel special then they will want to sleep with you but im not joking you have to be packing some serious social mojo and live up to it you cant fake anything. It just so happens to come naturally to me i guess.
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oh and if you get that far being a high, grand, master in eating pussy helps a shit ton. You will want to make her achieve orgasm at minimum twice in one sitting.
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>>16824723
Girls like that aren't worth the time and energy. So fucking what he got turned down. Least he's getting out there and asking, getting out of his comfort zone. The more he asks, the more he'll get comfortable and appear more confident. 4chan has a fucked up thing about attraction.
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>>16825355
>tfw vivian is my favorite type of girl
>tfw she's forever associated with tubroredditors doing muh gamurgate

cruel world
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>>16824723
You sound very shallow.

Those 10/10s will be growing old soon and they will soon realize that beauty fades but character and personality will triumph.

Enjoy your momentary hedonism and I hope you find a worthwhile person to spend your life with.
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Tfw 7/10 handsome, quite smart, but small dick... No matter how hard i work on the workable things, i will never win
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>>16824723
Lol you're just young, honey.
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>>16825991
Who cares what others think? I mean you have a trip for fucks sake.
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>>16826025

what size are we talking about? maybe you got brainwashed by porn.
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>>16824723
Truth is nobody gives a fuck what your advice is to anybody. You are no authority on anybody else confidence. You are not some player who managed to find the perfect formula for picking up hot chicks...You wanna know what drives women mad? CONFIDENCE ..clearly you think way to hard about the subject.
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>>16826135
About the length of the iphone 5
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How do I hookup with girls? I can go on dates with them, but I can't escalate to sex
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>>16826143
People throw around the word "confidence", so much but what does it really mean?

Does it mean that you believe you're awesome regardless of whether or not the girl likes you?
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>>16826229
Idk what to tell you.
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Not true OP. You're living in a warped reality.

Has a lot more to do with confidence and personality. Looks obviously mean more to men as well. I don't consider myself so attractive, very average but I've been with some very cute and beautiful girls.

Why does this happen? Well, believe it or not, a lot of women that we consider beautiful and attractive also lack confidence in themselves or their appearance, hence why they find themselves trying their best to look better and better. It becomes a complex and a lot of them are just as insecure as your everyday man. It evens out at times and this is why you see "ugly" men with attractive women dating at times. Personality goes a long way.
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>>16826229
It means that you don't have the reek of desperation.

It drives women nuts if you can go out, have fun, be social, but still not be looking to fuck them. After I got married I noticed a significant uptake in interest at bars simply because I didn't have a fuck to give.

Thats confidence.
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>>16826249
This is true. As a man be proud of your good qualities and realize that you shouldn't be that "easy". Women need to earn your respect just as much as it applies vice versa.
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>>16826280
>Women need to earn your respect
See, this is where you're liable to get cringey. Nobody needs to earn shit. Its a social interaction, you're there to have fun. The second you attach more significance to it than that is the second you start to fuck up.
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>>16826229
> be 8 and get first bicycle
> you scared of mounting the thing
> you get on it and your palms are sweating
> start striding, the bike shakes
> you feel like falling
> face against floor
> get up, shake the dirt off and try again
> fast forward 10 years
> you pick up and ride the bike without even flinching
> don't even think of the details of how you learned to use it
> you actually enjoy the damn thing
confidence is not thinking about the possible outcome of something. confidence is enjoying the ride.
> you get a car...
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>>16824723
>placing this much value on appearances
I feel like it gets easier if you just stop putting good looking women on a pedestal.

I treat women of all "attractiveness levels" the same. I don't treat a girl better or worse based on how good I think she looks, and I vet them all for personality and compatibility.

Women find this strange because they are so used to having guys bend over backwards for them because they are pretty. But I don't care how well you applied your makeup, how tight your shorts or how big your boobs, you need to bring something to the table besides your looks.
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>>16826280
True when dealing with entitled girls (a big chunk unfortunately)
>>16826289
I disagree. I think you owe everyone a certain level of courtesy and dignity, but respect needs to be earned in a similar fashion as admiration.
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>>16826304
>I disagree. I think you owe everyone a certain level of courtesy and dignity, but respect needs to be earned in a similar fashion as admiration.

Sure, but if you go in thinking that, rather than letting it happen organically, you're going to project it and come off as arrogant. Combine that with insecurity and you might as well buy a vape and a fedora.
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>>16825292
>>16825285
Depends on what you mean by expectations.

Most people fuck it up for themselves when their 'standards' are "must be 8/10 or hotter in looks" simply because there are only so many really good looking people to go around.

Maybe some people enjoy endlessly competing over the "top tier" men and women, which of course are only the best looking ones. But you have to wonder what people like this are missing when they pass up so many folks only because they weren't hot enough.
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>>16824788
>don't do that for a woman, do it for you
Finally, someone gets it!
Best advice you'll get ever....No seriously.
Five fucking stars!
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>>16826314
depends from where you come from, in my case I was a shy nerdy guy and had to learn not to be too nice.
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>>16824723
i always thought i was ugly untill i looked back on all the girlfriends i've had. all very attractive (mind you I haven't had alot of girlfriends just 4, and I guess the fact that i've had very attractive girlfriends is BECAUSE I wait untill I can get an attractive one hence the only having 4 girlfriends)
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>>16826409
how old are you anon?
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>>16824723

Can you elaborate more? I'm interested in what they said or what not, you know, the dirty details
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>>16826459
21
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>>16824723
Theres truth to it but at least the dude had enough balld to go up to her and ask her out. Maybe it wasnt just his looks, maybe he didnt have game. He didnt get it but hey, he can learn and better himself. Anybody making fun of him has to be teenagers or assholes.
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