>>16770125 Well I haven't had any medical training in my life so far so I'll just have to take a guess.
Ask them how long they have been experiencing the pain, and what the nature of the pain is - sharp and in one area, or a general dull pain of the gut.
If it was a gut pain I would probably ask them how they've been eating. If it's a sharp locatable pain then I'll ask them if they've done any physical activity that would have affected that area recently.
But anyway, how does this answer the question of whether I should become a doctor?
>should I? Able to tolerate maximum bureaucracy y/n.
Do you want money? Become a contractor. Do you want respect? Run your own business. Do you want comfort? Become a non-sp.ed schoolteacher.
Doctor is a shit tier profession these days. Someone who becomes a doctor today will make less average lifetime money than someone who becomes an auto mechanic. You will be sticking your hand up fat people's jellyrolls all day and all night to earn a paycheck which doesn't cover your student loans. What's that you say, you'll work through school? You WILL work, but med students work for free. Then you get to pay off your student loans once you're done.
>>16770148 >Able to tolerate maximum bureaucracy y/n. If the job was worth it then yes. >Do you want money? Become a contractor. Contractor in what? Something boring as fuck? If you become a specialist like a cardiologist or oncologist then you basically become a contractor - contracted out to do different jobs. >Do you want respect? Run your own business. But in what? I'm asking what FIELD I should go into, not what I should do once in that field. A doctor can set up their own surgery. My best mate's mum had her own surgery for most of her career. >Do you want comfort? Become a non-sp.ed schoolteacher. No I don't want fucking comfort, do you think long-ass shifts, being on-call throughout the night, and constantly wracking yourself with stress about killing your patients or being sued is comfortable? The fuck is wrong with you? >Doctor is a shit tier profession these days. Someone who becomes a doctor today will make less average lifetime money than someone who becomes an auto mechanic. You will be sticking your hand up fat people's jellyrolls all day and all night to earn a paycheck which doesn't cover your student loans. What's that you say, you'll work through school? You WILL work, but med students work for free. Then you get to pay off your student loans once you're done. NIGGA I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT MONEY Money's important, sure, and doctors are MORE than well enough compensated. It's about how rewarding the fucking job is though. I don't want to become some fucking middle manager twat in an office. Sounds dull as fuck.
I'm a 4th year Amerifag medical student 'Should I become a doctor' is not a question you should ask yourself. If you have to ask, then it isn't for you. This shit has got to be your passion, it doesn't matter how smart you think you are. The pay is pretty good, but it's certainly not worth it, which is why a ton of people go into medicine and end up being miserable. Patients don't deserve miserable doctors
>>16770186 Okay, well then I would try and get into a position that doesn't require being on call 24/7. As far as I'm aware, most doctors are only on call through the night once a week? Rather than every night? I'm pretty sure that doesn't happen, at least here in the UK. >>16770210 What the fuck is wrong with you
>>16770255 I only addressed the smartness question because it was asked.
I would say I definitely have an interest in the idea of medicine. When I was 16 I thought about it a lot - we did a careers test at school and medicine came out as my best match career (I was very good at sciences at that point and as I say, was thinking consciously about medicine)
I would need to go have some real world experience of medicine like shadowing a doctor before making a commitment, I'm sure (not just for making my mind up, but also because I will need it for any application to med school).
So you would say it's your passion? I suppose you probably would if you are committed to it. I am just deciding whether I should commit to it. Neither of my parents are doctors so it's not exactly an obvious career for me I guess, but it's something that always came up as an idea when I was at school.
>>16770275 I think shadowing several specialities is a good idea. there are definitely specialties out there with better lifestyles, like dermatology, opthomolgy, psychiatry. I would say it is my passion, but I have many passions. If you do some shadowing and you really like it, I would say go for it.
In the US you're on call when you have a patient, which is pretty much at all times or else you wouldn't be contracted.
They may have a night off once every ten days or so. Mind you this doesn't mean that you actually get called every night, but it does mean that you're getting fired and possibly losing your license if you leave the local area and you get a call.
>>16770288 Fair enough, thanks man. What made you convinced you wanted to do medicine? Did you shadow? >>16770295 Wow. Shit. As I say I don't think it works like that in the UK from what I've seen and read, but I could be wrong. I think in UK hospitals you will just have whichever doctor is on that ward on that shift attending a particular patient.
>>16770310 I was a combat medic in the army. Really fell in love with it then. It would be a hard choice without having exposure to it. Of course, you could do something else like physical therapy, which is super rewarding and doesn't take as much time
Nurses float. If you think that a physician float pool has more than one other person, one who knows they are the floater and has no obligation to answer their phone while they're in Vegas, then you have been watching too much House MD.
Students who think they know how the professional world works are the worst.
>>16770327 >It would be a hard choice without having exposure to it. Thought so, but it's good to hear it come from somebody actually in that field. You must be right. I mean, a lot of my friends from school (who i got grades just as good as, and who like me were also interested in science) have gone into medicine, but then again most (maybe all, I don't know in some cases) of their parents were doctors. So yeah, I guess I should either go get the experience or not and then stop worrying about it.
>>16770071 From doctors. What I hear universally is you don't do it for the money. You do it, because you love the profession. If your desire is for money, then shadow some doctors, learn about the profession. The average work week is 80+ from what I understand.
Not trying to discourage you, but it comes off as a you saw the salary and want in type thing, that's fine, but learn about the profession, there are much easier ways to make money, if that's all you want.
>>16770821 >"If you have to ask, then it isn't for you" I'm a med student from Australia and I agree with the 4th year Amerifag. Not trying to sound harsh or anything but honestly, it's for people who cannot see themselves working in any other career. This is just my opinion though. Good luck if you plan to go ahead with it!
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