Should I go to the hooker?

If you are afraid to talk to girls, yes.
But do it more than once.. I'd go to hookers until you're more comfortable with talking with girls.

I think I will leave it then. My problem is not talking to girls

uhh. no. save it for a person who's actually willing to have sex with you because they want to. nothing wrong with being kissless or a virgin.

>>16753118
I used a hooker one time because it was on my bucket list. It was a very nice experience. I used a website, picked a girl who I found sexy, called her, she gave me a hotel room to meet her in, and we had sex. She was very sweet, and I left in a great mood. It's a bit expensive, it was around 300-400 dollars. I'm glad I did it considering I was inbetween dating, and where I am now (married with child).

Just be smart about it, be polite, clean, and realize she's going to respond a lot better to you the more appreciative you are, you're not at an auto mechanic arguing what needs to be fixed on your car, you're having a stranger who never saw you before sucking your dick right after saying hi.

21, you can probably wait a little while longer to see if you meet someone "special"
But losing your virginity is really not such a big deal (you will notice once you have lost it)
So i say hell yes. Go for it!

I had a dryspell a few years ago (I went over 1 year without getting anything)
Was on vacation, got a way too drunk, met a prostitute at a bar, and we spent the night together.
And i have to say it was one of the most fun days/nights i have had. Easy in my top 10 list of good days in my 35 year old life.

Reason for me telling this, is that once i got home, i started getting laid again regularly.

I think females can smell desperation :p

So i only have positive things to say about paying for those services.

>>16753158
Says either a girl, a religious fundie, or a someone who isn't a virgin. Possibly any combination of the 3

>>16753175
so losing your virginity to a hooker and forever remembering that fact would not bother you? Are you for real?

>>16753196
I can vouch for this, I did it. In the modern world hook ups and buying whores are almost identical except sometimes the latter is cheaper and a sure thing.

>>16753204
And you feel no shame that a professional took your virginity?

>>16753196

I also agree with him. Hookers aren't a substitute for a girlfriend, but they can often be much better than random sluts you find in bars.

>>16753229

Life is too short. Its not like you need to tell all your friends about it.

If the girl is pretty and friendly it's well worth it.

Today I learned that 4chan sees no shame in losing your virginity which you have only one time to a hooker

>>16753229
I do not, in the slightest. But I don't supernaturally covet virginity. I also lived in a place with no decent women so I don't regret the alternative.

>>16753247
Can I ask what's special about virginity mate?

>>16753196

Well lost several other men, i lost my virginity wile i was way to drunk. (see what makes me do stupid things)
To a girl that was way under my standard. IE too fat and did not even have a cute face.
And i still look back at that day and think it was a fun night.

In a perfect world she would have been a perfect 10 and the love of my life and we bout would have been sober.
Me and OP like in reality not in some Disney fairytale like you. Were if you just retrain yourself from all temptation something good will eventually come to you as well.

OP obviously have issues around women, he is 21 years old and still not managed to get a girl to kiss him.
So getting it over with, will most lightly result in him relaxing a little bit around the female sex.

>>16753247
>male virginity
>anything special

female virginity has value male virginity does not

>>16753247
Can i ask about your gender?

>>16753256

edited my post, and forgot to reread it:
IT should go like; Well i, like several other men. Lost

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>>16753179
Ok if you want to hear it from a virgin then I'm telling you save it for someone who wants to have sex with you. I'm 21, male and virgin although not kissless.

>>16753254
When you reflect about life you will think about the day you lost your virginity, the day you first tasted a woman and that should be a hooker? Explain please, how do you not feel shame in that?

>>16753265
male

>>16753273
Because if it was some other random woman who I didn't care about at the time of reflection is is no different.

>>16753272
There is no good reason beyond emotional gratification and spirituality that you'd do such a thing. If it makes you feel good than by all means. But chastity is no longer a virtue, it's not going to get you anywhere special with anyone. For most it is just a whole lot of stress and insecurity for a bunch of nothing.

>>16753273
Not the poster but here is my answer:

Because there is no shame in wanting to be intimate with another human being.
In some counties disabled people get funds from the state in order to hire prostitutes.
Because human contact with the opposite sex is seen upon as a basic human need.

>>16753293
Thanks for your insight

>>16753118
where do you live OP?

>>16753301
Germoney

>>16753118
I did the exact thing a week ago. (Not kissless, though, but 29 yo)
I found a fairly good looking Hungarian girl, arranged a date and went to her apartment. I never mentioned being a virgin, but I think she got that pretty quickly. She gave me a massage for 20 minutes, which led to hand/titjob/bj which was the best feeling I ever had I guess.
The following cowgirl part was over after three minutes as you can imagine.
After that we talked a bit and I left, not feeling ANY different. But I'm glad to have done it.
Only problem is I now crave this amazing oily-handjob-feeling.

>>16753179
i'm female, agnostic, and a virgin.

>>16753273

As a depressed guy with severe anxiety. No, I don't feel shame.

Its only shameful because "normal" people can get sex easily and they cant even comprehend an inability to get sex.

I was 25 when I lost my virginity to a hooker, It was good. It helped me move on with my life. People build sex up to be some huge important thing. But its not. Its just sex. It allowed me to look past sex and go after girls for their company and personality.

Also, why must we all feel we have to abide by social norms? Prostitution isn't hurting anyone (assuming they aren't part of some sex slave trade thing)

>>16753319
You meet one of my requirements then. To clarify I'm a virgin and I hope to find someone special but I understand why someone wouldn't want to wait after years of trying to find someone and constantly being sent the signal that you aren't good enough. When a whore doesn't care about any of that shit, is there for your enjoyment, and from what I understand some are downright nice as hell.

but when you go to a hooker to lose it isn't that validating everyone else that said you aren't good enough?

>>16753347
Based on everyone else's standards maybe they just aren't. But even so what are they suppose to fucking do about it?

>>16753355
then that's fucking sad and they deserve all the herp they're going to get.

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I'd say yeah if you want a shag, but that wont fix your problems with women.

That'll take hard work and dedication to get your ass out there, meeting and talking to more girls

>>16753363
Because they weren't born attractive enough for people or were crippled in some way? I think the cold way you look at the plight of others may be more shameful than any whore sex.

>>16753118

>Kissless Virgin (21 Years)

Same here, I've been browsing the AdultWork site recently and found two hookers that live near me which I could do. The thing is though I know I'm just entertaining the idea, it's not in me to do such a thing, yet. Maybe that time will come later but for now I haven't quite given up.

>>16753460
>wait a few
Thats what I did. Waited till I was 25 to see an escort.

>>16753118
welp. I had my sex with the girl I LOVED like really loved and she was great and nothing went wrong and felt nothing but disappointment
sex is overrated. I'd say it is the most overrated shit i ever encountered

OK guys. I am a 20 year old kissless virgin and had thought of going through this route. Now after jacking off, I find that a relationship is much more fulfilling than going with a hooker.

Unless you're like me, a depressed, lonely, reclusive male approaching his 30s, you shouldn't consider it at all. It's fun for an hour but that's it. Money's not the issue really- your loss of dignity is.

I agree with several posters here. 25 and under is still very young and there's a good chance of landing a relationship if you work at it.

>>16753412
"Plight" lol. you don't have to be physically attractive for someone to want to have sex with you. it's my view that if someone has so little respect for themselves that they're willing to lose it to a hooker at age 21 they deserve the censure society is going to give them. because it is shameful lol. being 21 and a virgin isn't a fucking plight ffs.

Unless you know the wrong kinds of people who can recommend you a good one, which being a kissless virgin I highly doubt, you're better off just going to a fucking casino m8.

Hookers are a complete gamble. Some are fucking great and the rest are absolute shit and are just doing it for money or coke or both.

Unless you're in Vegas or Amsterdam just don't bother.

I bought a hooker at 21. Best thing i ever did. All that stigma and frustration of being a virgin - gone.
Finally I could go on with my life, it was amazing. Now I have the confidence to get girls for free.

20+ virgins - if you have the mindset of "waiting for that perfect girl" you will never ever ever lose it. Trust me! Get a grip of reality.

>>16753273
I would feel ashamed if I went trough my youth, my sexual peak, without getting that pussy. Paid or not, doesnt matter.

You'll never be a real man as long as you are a virgin. Every year as a manchild is a wasted year.

>>16753878
>if you have the mindset of "waiting for that perfect girl" you will never ever ever lose it.
>as said by someone who couldn't wait past the age of 21
But please, continue to enlighten us with the profound insight into relationships you gained by sleeping with a hooker.

>>16753921

>You'll never be a real man as long as you are a virgin

So why is my brother who gets a fair amount of action still such an irresponsible, petty selfish manchild?


If you want to go hard mode the route you need to take is the one of self improvement, becoming a well rounded individual with qualities that are attractive

or buy a hooker and relax

>>16753118
Some insight from someone who lost his virginity at age 19 from a hooker, it's not even bad IF you do it just for the sake of seeing what it's like. If you have some sort of precious outlook on the concept of virginity (lel, what is this, the Bible?) then you'll regret it soon after.

>>16753921
>my youth, my sexual peak
This is a myth. Not only are a lot of people late bloomers, but most men come into their own sexually once their 20s are over and done with.

>>16753529
This is all half and half. My first time was really great for the both of us.

>>16753118

Pussy is pussy.

Does it matter if you pay for it with 1 hour spent at the bar buying some slut drinks, or if you just pay for it?

Same shit.

I'd rather just pay for it, when I need it.

Jesus Christ /adv/ has gone downhill. I mean, the advice was not good before but fucking hell...

The fact you had to pay for sex, (don't buy into the bullshit about paying through other ways), will always haunt you. Virginity ITSELF is not a bad thing, it's the circumstances surrounding it.

>>16754891
>The fact you had to pay for sex, (don't buy into the bullshit about paying through other ways), will always haunt you.
Fucking excellent projection m8.

>>16753812
Being one in a situation where most others aren't puts a societal pressure on the party that is.

>>16754891
>People have different opinions than me, BAAWWWWWWW

Every man pays for sex, some are paid via genetics, some pay through emotion and dates, some just pay up front.

>>16753118
i did and i don't really regret it. I was 19 or 20 and "scared" of having sex with girls i liked. it made me realize sex really isn't that big of a deal, i could have easily gone another couple of years being a virgin but i didn't.

the one thing i will warn of is that once you get over the stigma of a hooker you probably won't just go once.

>>16754042
Source on sexual peak being in your 30s that sounds like bullshit

>>16753976
>Implying that 21 is not way way overdue
>Implying that there is any reason at all to wait and "save that precious virginity".

Go suck on a bible.

>>16753980
Going without sex after a certain age will do nothing but ruin your self esteem. After I lost my virginity I have been able to focus on other things such as, you said it, self improvement.

As for your brother: nonvirgin is just one requirement. Obviously there are other things you need to fulfill as well (education, career etc).

TL;DR
Virginity (for males) is something to get rid of. Not something to save.

>>16753980
Buying a hooker and relax sounds like a nice plan desu

I'll finish with this: Being a virgin is as "valuable" as it is to never have travelled abroad.

>>16754891
>The fact you had to pay for sex will always haunt you.

As someone who has paid for sex, I can say it doesn't. I'm glad I did it and I'm completely fine with it.

Its all about your attitude going into it.

>want to contact a hooker
>4 inch penis
JUST